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Re: More Java stuff

2002-09-27 by Scott Ruda

--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Tried that initially too, not only won't it install, it won't run either. 
> I can install it in 'safe mode', but it doesn't do me much good.  I can 
> send you a copy of the error log on Monday if that would help. 

What error log? If E-Loader doesn't run at all, how can it generate an error 
log? Or maybe you mean some kind of XP or Java error log?

Plus, what do you mean it installs when in safe mode? Are you saying the E-
Loader Installer works in safe mode, but not in full mode?  That seems real 
weird. I would think that the Java system installed with XP+SP1 either works 
or it doesn't.

<a bit of technical stuff>
Note that the E-Loader installer may use the native (i.e. MS) Java - sort of a 
bootstrap issue - since it has to have something to run on before it can install 
anything else which it might eventually choose to use. But once installed, 
either by the Installer or by a manual copy, E-Loader uses a private copy of 
the Sun VM directly installed into the E-Loader install directory (currently 
version 1.3.1). This was done to eliminate compatibility and support issues of 
everyone potentially running a different VM. If E-Loader itself doesn't work 
with XP+SP1 that implies that XP+SP1 doesn't work with the Sun VM 1.3.1, 
which seems surprising, since I would expect that many other Java 
applications on the PC platform would all of a sudden stop working in XP+
SP1, and you would think that there would be public notices of that on the 
web, which I haven't seen.

I still haven't gotten an XP+SP1 system up and running yet, so I'm sorry that 
we have to do this 'blindly'. Hopefully I will get a setup soon so that I can give 
you more definitive answers. Meanwhile, I appreciate your willingness to do 
some remote troubleshooting for me.

Scott

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