Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

If you get the the digest, you may have seen my post from a couple of 
days ago thanking those who raised and discussed this issue. [See 
below.] I deleted it about 15 minutes after I posted it (1) because I 
wasn't sure my enthusiasm was warranted and (2) because I couldn't 
believe that the usb drivers were finally working. 

Well, so far so good. Also, I thought I'd share what I found in case 
it helps others to get e-loader up and running. 

Here's what I found (so far):
1. If I boot the computer with my E-Mu on, the usb drivers do NOT get 
installed/the hardware is not available via usb. (So I waited until 
the computer is FULLY booted up.)
2. Initially, the New Hardware Status bubble popped up saying USB 
device not recognized. However, this went away within seconds.
3. When I check Device Manager, I have the following devices that I 
did not have before I powered up the E-Mu: 
E-Mu device, Interface 0
E-Mu device, Interface 1
USB Composite Device.

[I am not sure if the 3rd device is actually the E-Mu*. My Xmidi2x2 
interface which came with Proteus X2 shows up as a USB Composite 
Device; so I now have 2 such devices listed. *Just double checked 
and I think it IS for the E-Mu: All 3 devices have the basic Hardware 
ID listed in Device Manager --> Details. Maybe the Xmidi2x2 driver has
something that made the E-Mu usb drivers install properly.]

4. Evidently part of Kaspersky Internet Security includes a device 
driver for usb devices (klfltdev.sys). It shows up under device 
details for ALL my usb devices. I mention this because who knows, 
maybe it is Kaspersky's usb device monitoring that made my E-Mu usb 
drivers install correctly after all these years. (They have a 30 day 
free-trial if you want to check it out.)
5. 844KB of pattern data took 7'35" to download to computer via midi; 
It took 1'56" via usb. [Bank name lists also load much quicker.]

Finally, remember that e-loader uses java, so you may want to make 
sure there are no problems with java on your computer. If you can 
install e-loader, there is a built in java console window that might 
be helpful. Also, at one point yesterday morning, I had a problem 
with e-loader and a error log was created in my pattern storage 
folder (hs_err_pid###). I am not sure why the error happened.
 
As I said, I have no idea why the usb drivers finally installed 
correctly this time (SP3?, System Mechanic?, Xmidi2x2?, Kaspersky?), 
but I am very grateful for the discussion. (And to be honest, if Tom 
hadn't had such a bad day a few days back, I wouldn't have even tried 
to do anything with e-loader! So again, sorry you had a bad day, but 
I guess there's gotta be a good side to everything.) 

Hope this helps others to get e-loader up and running.
--Steve

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Posted by: "steve_the_composer"  
Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:09 pm (PST)
 
First of all, a big, gigantic thank you for raising this issue and to 
others who chimed in!!!!!!!!! 

If you read my recent posts, you know that I had tried installing the 
E-Mu usb drivers on my XP PC several times over the past several 
years--each time without success and always with the frustration that 
comes with following installation instructions exactly (time after 
time after time) only to get an error message. 

Well, prompted by the current discussion, I tried it again, and it 
worked!!!!!! I have absoluetly no idea why. (I wish I could tell you.)

Maybe SP3 fixed something with the usb enumeration/ new hardware 
process. Maybe some automatic update fixed something. Maybe System 
Mechanic (which I have used for a year or so) fixed something. I have 
no idea. 

E-Loader (including the usb drivers and the java files) are in the 
same where I put them in 2004. The instructions I followed were 
exactly the same over the years. I did nothing different.

I guess the only advice I can give to others trying to get e-loader 
working is to keep trying--even years after you've given up.

--Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups. com, "Christopher" <outlaw_artist@ ...> wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I just wanted to say "hellO " I am a new owner of a Command Station
> XL-7, I've tried every work-around and just about every operating
> system below 9.2.2 for Apple to try to get 
> eLoader to fire and it's still a no go!

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