Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Hmm, eem, I realized I was a little bit mean in my last post. Sorry 
for this!

All I want to say is that I think you should learn all features 'n 
stuff that the XL-7 can do, it's not as hard as it may seem - and you 
will not regret learning all features of the synth.

//Nifflas

--- In xl7@y..., "nifflas" <nifflas@m...> wrote:
> Agh! If you know BASIC synth theory you can easily understand the 
> manual and program the XL-7, I mean, programming the XL-7 is so 
very 
> very simple compared to many other synths. Why do you think people 
> get synths like the Nord Modular?
> 
> Effects? Why do you need them inside a synth? Just plug the XL-7 
into 
> some external effect processors. And oh, btw I like the XL-7 sounds 
> as well. But I try to explain why programming is so much more 
> important than effects.
> 
> I care about programming. It's important in order to shape a sound 
> the way you want. And if it wasn't for the programming, I would 
never 
> get the XL-7. If you don't understand or care about programming, 
you 
> can always find some cheap sound modules to plug in your midi setup.
> 
> //Nifflas
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., "heinrich22001" <hhuent@g...> wrote:
> > I´m curious, what you think about that:
> > 
> > I was travelling by train last weekend and took the chance to 
read 
> > through the manual, that means: the programming section. I only 
did 
> > very basic sound tweaking, altered the factory stuff a little, 
> never 
> > needed indepth programming. So I studied this chapter to find 
what 
> my 
> > mp-7 can do for me.
> > 
> > I was a little "shocked" by the endless possibilities. And I know 
> I´m 
> > never gonna use it. After reading it I felt like "damn, you need 
to 
> > be an engineer to use the real strengths of this machine". Unlike 
> > somebody else in this group I do not think this chapter is well 
> > written. Parts are simply overexplained but then again an 
overview 
> > and working examples are missing. 
> > 
> > I remember a market research study saying that most synthi users 
> are 
> > tweaking their own sounds way less than you might think. If I 
took 
> my 
> > limited time to compose songs and die care about all theses 
> features 
> > I would never end up with a finished song (I am no pro, don´t 
have 
> a 
> > studio, I only use my gear in late evenings - if my girl friend 
> lets 
> > me, that is ;-)))
> > 
> > So my question is: Why did EMu put so much effort in sound 
fiddling 
> > possibilities and offer such a limited effect section? An 
extended 
> > but easy to use efx section is what most users are after, I 
guess. 
> So 
> > do I. How many of you are really (!) working with the programming 
> > features of the XX-7? Maybe this is the way to go for minimal, 
> > industrial, techno. But R & B??? 
> > 
> > No offence, just a question. 
> > 
> > HEinrich