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Re: Dumb man wants to make trance music...

2004-02-12 by sparky55red

I thought the idea was to stretch yourself and enjoy the process!!!!!


- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dwoodaman" <dwoodaman@y...> wrote:
> "Now people are taking it seriously, trying to be producers and 
want 
> it to be just that easy. I don't get it."
> No     . I teach guitar, but I stopped for years after getting an 
> endless succession of dopes that thought I could teach them to 
play 
> like Hendrix or McLoughlin or you name it in three weeks, and god 
> forbid they would have to learn scales!!!!! Just ain't gonna 
happen. 
> To me, songwriting/producing is the most intense mental work I do, 
> and the most rewarding. Why in hell would you want to cut out the 
> process, just to end up with some     -generic music? Aren't you 
> trying to express what YOU are feeling, not someone else?
> Indeed, electronic music is no different than any other art: you 
> only get back out what you put in.
> OK, I'm off my soapbox now.
> Dana
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > Great post from another website I frequent, author unknown:
> > 
> > "Alright, you know how kids are always going "How do I make my 
> mixes sound 
> > better?" and what not. The answer is so simple really. Just love 
> what you 
> > do, study and practice.
> > 
> > Think about it all day, every day for years and keep learning, 
> keep trying 
> > new ideas all the time.
> > 
> > First off you have to be creative enough to come up with a good 
> idea and 
> > some people just don't have that. If you do have the ideas then 
> you need 
> > to have the patience, knowledge (technical) and confidence to 
> bring it all 
> > together into something that you know is good. There aren't any 
> formulas 
> > for that. It takes time and effort, more of both than most 
people 
> have or 
> > want to give. People are so quick to ask for eq frequencies and 
> > compression settings and what software to use and what synth is 
> good for 
> > this and that. There are more than enough books and web 
resources 
> that 
> > will give you general guidelines.
> > 
> > Man... this is art and people want recipes. I understand that 
> there is 
> > nothing wrong with asking questions, I do it more than most. But 
> when you 
> > ask for a decade's worth of knowledge and experience in one 
broad 
> question 
> > it's obvious that you need to be more self sufficient and dig 
for 
> what you 
> > want. Does anyone want the journey from here to there... or is 
it 
> all 
> > about achieving everything right now?
> > 
> > I don't know why people think that electronic music is any 
> different from 
> > drawing, writing, sculpting, etc... You don't see people on 
forums 
> asking 
> > "How do I paint like Michelangelo?" but somehow... because you 
can 
> click a 
> > few notes into a drum grid on a shareware program and say "Whoa 
I 
> made a 
> > beat!" the idea that a finished product is right around the 
corner 
> > presents itself. Then people start doing stuff and in a month's 
> time don't 
> > understand why their mixes aren't on wax yet. You can load a 
drum 
> kit 
> > consisting of clean hits that are already processed to work 
> together into 
> > a softsampler, spend a while learning to write basic patterns, 
> then throw 
> > a sampled bassline or melody over it... and on pc speakers hear 
a 
> real 
> > track. This is akin to doing a decent job on a paint by numbers 
> project 
> > and then expecting to paint for a living. 
> > 
> > It's normal to be ambitious at first and you should be, but you 
> have to 
> > keep things in perspective.
> > 
> > There is something that a lot of people forget... In dance music 
> half of 
> > the art is in the mixing and engineering. It's not a science, 
it's 
> taking 
> > theory and technique and learning it so well that it becomes 
> > transparent... and you start using that knowledge in a 
> thoughtless, fluid 
> > way. It's the fact that you know the rules and know them well 
> enough to 
> > break them in your own fashion. The guy that engineered the 
latest 
> pop 
> > tune on the radio would probably do a rotten job at making an 
> underground 
> > dance tune tear it up because that is not his passion. If you 
> don't really 
> > want something it's just not gonna happen. If you do and have 
the 
> knack 
> > for it, it will. It's just a natural progression. That has been 
> the way 
> > forward since the beginning.
> > 
> > Nowadays it is so easy to start making music with computers... 
> everyone 
> > wants instant gratification. There was a time when you had to 
> commit 
> > yourself to this because you had no choice but to spend a lot of 
> cash just 
> > to get started. Then you had to rely on your own ambition and 
> creativity 
> > for new techniques. It seems like the attitudes have gone wrong 
in 
> dance 
> > music. People used to take it as a joke because they thought it 
> was easy 
> > to do... just computer generated, robotic beats. Now people are 
> taking it 
> > seriously, trying to be producers and want it to be just that 
> easy. I 
> > don't get it."
> > 
> > rEalm
> > 
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