I thought the idea was to stretch yourself and enjoy the process!!!!! - In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dwoodaman" <dwoodaman@y...> wrote: > "Now people are taking it seriously, trying to be producers and want > it to be just that easy. I don't get it." > No . I teach guitar, but I stopped for years after getting an > endless succession of dopes that thought I could teach them to play > like Hendrix or McLoughlin or you name it in three weeks, and god > forbid they would have to learn scales!!!!! Just ain't gonna happen. > To me, songwriting/producing is the most intense mental work I do, > and the most rewarding. Why in hell would you want to cut out the > process, just to end up with some -generic music? Aren't you > trying to express what YOU are feeling, not someone else? > Indeed, electronic music is no different than any other art: you > only get back out what you put in. > OK, I'm off my soapbox now. > Dana > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote: > > Great post from another website I frequent, author unknown: > > > > "Alright, you know how kids are always going "How do I make my > mixes sound > > better?" and what not. The answer is so simple really. Just love > what you > > do, study and practice. > > > > Think about it all day, every day for years and keep learning, > keep trying > > new ideas all the time. > > > > First off you have to be creative enough to come up with a good > idea and > > some people just don't have that. If you do have the ideas then > you need > > to have the patience, knowledge (technical) and confidence to > bring it all > > together into something that you know is good. There aren't any > formulas > > for that. It takes time and effort, more of both than most people > have or > > want to give. People are so quick to ask for eq frequencies and > > compression settings and what software to use and what synth is > good for > > this and that. There are more than enough books and web resources > that > > will give you general guidelines. > > > > Man... this is art and people want recipes. I understand that > there is > > nothing wrong with asking questions, I do it more than most. But > when you > > ask for a decade's worth of knowledge and experience in one broad > question > > it's obvious that you need to be more self sufficient and dig for > what you > > want. Does anyone want the journey from here to there... or is it > all > > about achieving everything right now? > > > > I don't know why people think that electronic music is any > different from > > drawing, writing, sculpting, etc... You don't see people on forums > asking > > "How do I paint like Michelangelo?" but somehow... because you can > click a > > few notes into a drum grid on a shareware program and say "Whoa I > made a > > beat!" the idea that a finished product is right around the corner > > presents itself. Then people start doing stuff and in a month's > time don't > > understand why their mixes aren't on wax yet. You can load a drum > kit > > consisting of clean hits that are already processed to work > together into > > a softsampler, spend a while learning to write basic patterns, > then throw > > a sampled bassline or melody over it... and on pc speakers hear a > real > > track. This is akin to doing a decent job on a paint by numbers > project > > and then expecting to paint for a living. > > > > It's normal to be ambitious at first and you should be, but you > have to > > keep things in perspective. > > > > There is something that a lot of people forget... In dance music > half of > > the art is in the mixing and engineering. It's not a science, it's > taking > > theory and technique and learning it so well that it becomes > > transparent... and you start using that knowledge in a > thoughtless, fluid > > way. It's the fact that you know the rules and know them well > enough to > > break them in your own fashion. The guy that engineered the latest > pop > > tune on the radio would probably do a rotten job at making an > underground > > dance tune tear it up because that is not his passion. If you > don't really > > want something it's just not gonna happen. If you do and have the > knack > > for it, it will. It's just a natural progression. That has been > the way > > forward since the beginning. > > > > Nowadays it is so easy to start making music with computers... > everyone > > wants instant gratification. There was a time when you had to > commit > > yourself to this because you had no choice but to spend a lot of > cash just > > to get started. Then you had to rely on your own ambition and > creativity > > for new techniques. It seems like the attitudes have gone wrong in > dance > > music. People used to take it as a joke because they thought it > was easy > > to do... just computer generated, robotic beats. Now people are > taking it > > seriously, trying to be producers and want it to be just that > easy. I > > don't get it." > > > > rEalm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person(s)or > entity > > to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > legally > > privileged material. Delivery of this message to any person other > than > > the intended recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive > privilege > > or confidentiality. 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Re: Dumb man wants to make trance music...
2004-02-12 by sparky55red
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