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EM roundup

2006-05-23 by drmabuce

Hi all
(i know Gino is a member so i'll adress him directly herein) 
i just read the EM cover story on 21st century analog modules and i
want to say thanx to Gino. While we may quibble endlessly about the
details or emphasis, i urge everyone to take a step back and consider
that EM put this story  -- on the cover---. Call me old-fashioned, but
speaking for myself, i get tired of being spoofed month after month by
sexy panels in these mags only to discover that they're screenshots of
software. It was a treat just to turn pages and see photos wherein
real light reflects off REAL knobs, and real aluminum 
- Long overdue and much welcomed! 
   i applaud the editors and author for the ecumenical coverage of the
WHOLE field.   Units sold is an irrelevant factor to the reader. The
only thing that matters to me is what's in MY rig. Obviously EM gets
that. Bananalogue & Mankato are standing shoulder to shoulder with
MOTM & Modcan. The focus clung to form and features. Gino's diligence
really showed in the exposure he gave to the lesser-known designers.
Musicians looking into our world from the outside got the benefit of
Gino's  insider-perspective and experience. THAT's what good
gear-journalism is all about.
   i also want to mention that i was delighted to see Ken Stone
credited . The Anime panel and 'man behind the curtain' angle elicited
a sincere chuckle from a even such a crusty old curmudgeon as myself! 

    Bravo Gino! i recognize that it was a lot of work but speaking as
a guy who still has Craig's EM issue #1 (when the mag still had
schematics! YOWZA!!!!!) the effort really paid off!

    I could even tell that JAG's LEDs were different colors!
=)

-doc

Re: EM roundup

2006-05-23 by drmabuce

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Tim J" <bob_aloha@...> wrote:
>
> Who the heck is Mankato?

not who...
Where!!! the heck is Mankato......,
Mankato is a (beautiful)  town in Southern Minnesota (Minn St. Univ is
there)
This fabled hamlet is the stomping grounds of the legendary Thomas
Henry who has recently founded Magic Smoke Electronics 

and it's NOT what you think!


>  Linky?
> 

oh sure...
here's a link!
};'>
http://www.answers.com/topic/magic-smoke

and an actual photo!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Smoke

and this tangental reference...

http://www.magsmoke.com/magsmoke.asp

(hey guys! The Henry books are coming back ... the HENRY Books are
coming back!!!)
-doc
(licensed senile smart ass)

Re: [wiardgroup] EM roundup

2006-05-23 by Scott E.

Well said, Doc

Scott E.
=====================================================
drmabuce wrote:
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> Hi all
> (i know Gino is a member so i'll adress him directly herein)
> i just read the EM cover story on 21st century analog modules and i
> want to say thanx to Gino. While we may quibble endlessly about the
> details or emphasis, i urge everyone to take a step back and consider
> that EM put this story  -- on the cover---. Call me old-fashioned, but
> speaking for myself, i get tired of being spoofed month after month by
> sexy panels in these mags only to discover that they're screenshots of
> software. It was a treat just to turn pages and see photos wherein
> real light reflects off REAL knobs, and real aluminum
> - Long overdue and much welcomed!
>    i applaud the editors and author for the ecumenical coverage of the
> WHOLE field.   Units sold is an irrelevant factor to the reader. The
> only thing that matters to me is what's in MY rig. Obviously EM gets
> that. Bananalogue & Mankato are standing shoulder to shoulder with
> MOTM & Modcan. The focus clung to form and features. Gino's diligence
> really showed in the exposure he gave to the lesser-known designers.
> Musicians looking into our world from the outside got the benefit of
> Gino's  insider-perspective and experience. THAT's what good
> gear-journalism is all about.
>    i also want to mention that i was delighted to see Ken Stone
> credited . The Anime panel and 'man behind the curtain' angle elicited
> a sincere chuckle from a even such a crusty old curmudgeon as myself!
>
>     Bravo Gino! i recognize that it was a lot of work but speaking as
> a guy who still has Craig's EM issue #1 (when the mag still had
> schematics! YOWZA!!!!!) the effort really paid off!
>
>     I could even tell that JAG's LEDs were different colors!
> =)
>
> -doc
>
>

Re: [wiardgroup] EM roundup

2006-05-23 by Tim J

Who the heck is Mankato?  Linky?

Thnx,
Tim


> > that. Bananalogue & Mankato are standing shoulder to shoulder with

Re: EM roundup

2006-05-23 by drmabuce

Hi Gino,
an insightful response...
i have to confess that , while realizing the reality of deadlines and
writers-block, i envy the smidgin of glamour in getting paid to pile
up analog modules and describe them!

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Robair, Gino" <grobair@...> wrote:

> 
> One last thing, based on what the good Doctor said below:
> > Call me old-fashioned, but
> > speaking for myself, i get tired of being spoofed month after month by
> > sexy panels in these mags only to discover that they're screenshots of
> > software. 
> 
> 
> The topics that EM (and SOS for that matter) cover are wide ranging:
> recording and mixing application stories (How-To articles); product
roundups
> of everything from mics and preamps to monitors and MIDI control
surfaces;
> So for me, the fun of this job is focusing the review spotlight on the
> boutique items, whether it's a stand-alone tube filer, freeware
softsynth,
> or quirky stompbox.


it hasn't escaped my notice that EM has begun to place software
screenshots against a colored background , while actual nuts&bolts
hardware is pasted-up directly on the page's whitespace. That
subliminal cue  is certainly a step in the right direction. And
further i have to admit that the 'hardware-esque' UI (especially if
it's retro) is very much the fashion with the software makers..... the
gear-press certainly didn't invent this trend. Thus i can't pin this
marketing ruse on the messenger! 
More to the point though, you needn't pay too much heed to my
perspective...
 because for one, i'm no longer EM's target demographic.
 and perhaps more importantly, because i'm merely nostalgic.
(not only am i OLD, but i'm an Ingmar Bergman-style Cancer...) My rig
is, for the most part, complete and purchased. In the 80's i tore
through the pages of EM hoping to find a sneak-peek at the Oberheim
Xpander or the T-10 or to find a second opinion about whether those
ADAT things really did work. That's all history now and my remark
alludes as much to my own personal nostalgia for that erstwhile
toy-lust as to EM's scope of coverage.

i cannot resist pointing out what a huge chuckle i got out of seeing
Ken's 'cat-girl' panel in the sidebar, looking more like a soft-porn
anime screenshot than ACTUAL software does!!!
but it was hardware!!!!!!
(ok! ok! it's a GEEK-irony but i find it funny 'cause i'm a geek)
Bravo Ken! maybe anime will be the next big thing in software skins!


> 
> Re DIY: I've been pushing for renewed coverage of DIY projects, but far
> fewer people do it these days than back when Craig started EM, or
when John
> S. ran Polyphony. Consequently, the editorial space (page count) is
> allocated elsewhere.
> 

and....
DIY is expensive, IT used to save money, especially when gear was
repairable or modifiable at a component level  but the only real
motivation that can justify the expense nowadays is the desire for
something that the manufacturers won't build for you.

> However, I am going through our old DIY sections and plan to put up
some of
> them in pdf format on our Web site. For example, I have a nice one
by Thomas
> Henry about filling blank panels with useful, space saving modules 

That Thomas Henry article is THE chestnut!
i have that yellowed original in my "basic-recipes" folder... the
schmitt-trigger is something i build almost once a month.

i agree that most of the archive is too dated to be relevant, now but
there are some updated modern chips like the AD-2164  quad VCA that
might have broad appeal even to novice DIYers  

Grant is an advocate of SMT surf-board construction for prototyping
perhaps readers might be interested to learn that SMT construction
does not necessarily TOTALLY lock them out of DIY.
(just don't Sneeze before the solder sets!)
;'>

best,
-doc

PS: Grant w/MEME is playing with the ZomZoms tonight in Madison ... if
anybody's withing driving distance!

Re: [wiardgroup] EM roundup

2006-05-23 by Robair, Gino

Thanks for the shoutout and kind words, Doc.

Because you brought it up, I'll comment a bit.

The great part about this assignment, for me as a musician obviously, was
spending a solid month listening to and writing about analog synths. (Not
counting the hours spent at the AH booth at NAMM, or the hours spent at
Sooperbuth in Frankfurt bugging all the synth designers about their
products.) Frankly, I was floored when my boss suggested we make this the
cover story. How often do you see a patchable analog synth on the cover of a
music magazine? Certainly not enough for my tastes. Needless to say, I was
very excited to see the field get this much exposure.

The difficult part was, as always, to fit as much info as possible within a
specified word count (and page count). That's why this particular piece was
narrowed down to just the companies and product lines that have sprung up
since 2001 (when I last covered the field). This piece included 11 product
lines, which is a healthy number when you think about trying to write
succinctly about them.

Add to that number the companies that are going strong (still releasing new
modules, etc), but haven't introduced new product lines (.com, Doepfer,
Asys, Asol, etc) and you can see that musicians have a wide range of choices
when it comes to modulars.

My goal was to not necessarily preach to the choir, but to inform the
younger musicians who are growing up with soft synths and sequencers that
haven't experienced the joy of patching and tweaking a hardware synth, and
hearing how good REAL analog synths sound. Consequently, the tone of the
article is aimed at the reader who is new to this field, not to the readers
on this kind of list who know which end of the soldering iron to use. So if
something seems over simplified, bear with me.

Also, Doc wrote:
>While we may quibble endlessly about the details or emphasis... >>

Feel free to send me your endless quibbles. I'd like to know what I missed
or misconstrued. Although I fact checked each section with the
manufacturers, sometimes inaccuracies get through, and I want to know if
they did. Heck, I'd like to hear differing opinions too.

One last thing, based on what the good Doctor said below:
> Call me old-fashioned, but
> speaking for myself, i get tired of being spoofed month after month by
> sexy panels in these mags only to discover that they're screenshots of
> software. 

A word about what it's like to work at a magazine like EM: don't forget that
the editorial staff of EM (and SOS, and Keyboard, etc) is populated with
musicians who love the topics we cover. Typically, each editor has their
specialty and interests, which he or she has to balance against the
interests of other staff members, as well as the interests of the readers.
Consequently, feature articles have to appeal to a large portion of the
readership so that people feel like they're getting their money's worth.

The topics that EM (and SOS for that matter) cover are wide ranging:
recording and mixing application stories (How-To articles); product roundups
of everything from mics and preamps to monitors and MIDI control surfaces;
and reviews of products from major companies (Roland, Yamaha, M-Audio) and
one-person organizations (Dave Smith, Metasonix, Doepfer, Wiard, etc).
Obviously, the big guys advertise, and our sales staff loves it when we
cover advertisers. But our editorial approach at EM is that editorial and
sales are like church and state: I'm free to assign what I want for review.
And every so often we get to feature something nifty like analog modulars,
or interview someone like Gary Chang!

So for me, the fun of this job is focusing the review spotlight on the
boutique items, whether it's a stand-alone tube filer, freeware softsynth,
or quirky stompbox.

Re DIY: I've been pushing for renewed coverage of DIY projects, but far
fewer people do it these days than back when Craig started EM, or when John
S. ran Polyphony. Consequently, the editorial space (page count) is
allocated elsewhere.

However, I am going through our old DIY sections and plan to put up some of
them in pdf format on our Web site. For example, I have a nice one by Thomas
Henry about filling blank panels with useful, space saving modules (like
mults). Perfect for the person who's just getting into this field (or
perhaps just bought the new Nic Collins book and is getting into circuit
bending). Unfortunately, some of the older projects are woefully outdated.
Feel free to suggest any particular archive article you remember fondly and
I'll try to get it online.

Also, always feel free to contact me directly if you have article ideas or
comments. I'll share them with my colleagues.

Okay, now I'll take off my work hat and go back to being a civilian Wiard
user...
Cheers,
g


On 5/23/06 9:48 AM, "drmabuce" <drmabuce@yahoo.com>scribbled:
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> Hi all
> (i know Gino is a member so i'll adress him directly herein)
> i just read the EM cover story on 21st century analog modules and i
> want to say thanx to Gino. While we may quibble endlessly about the
> details or emphasis, i urge everyone to take a step back and consider
> that EM put this story  -- on the cover---. Call me old-fashioned, but
> speaking for myself, i get tired of being spoofed month after month by
> sexy panels in these mags only to discover that they're screenshots of
> software. It was a treat just to turn pages and see photos wherein
> real light reflects off REAL knobs, and real aluminum
> - Long overdue and much welcomed!
>    i applaud the editors and author for the ecumenical coverage of the
> WHOLE field.   Units sold is an irrelevant factor to the reader. The
> only thing that matters to me is what's in MY rig. Obviously EM gets
> that. Bananalogue & Mankato are standing shoulder to shoulder with
> MOTM & Modcan. The focus clung to form and features. Gino's diligence
> really showed in the exposure he gave to the lesser-known designers.
> Musicians looking into our world from the outside got the benefit of
> Gino's  insider-perspective and experience. THAT's what good
> gear-journalism is all about.
>    i also want to mention that i was delighted to see Ken Stone
> credited . The Anime panel and 'man behind the curtain' angle elicited
> a sincere chuckle from a even such a crusty old curmudgeon as myself!
> 
>     Bravo Gino! i recognize that it was a lot of work but speaking as
> a guy who still has Craig's EM issue #1 (when the mag still had
> schematics! YOWZA!!!!!) the effort really paid off!
> 
>     I could even tell that JAG's LEDs were different colors!
> =)
> 
> -doc
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Mankato

2006-05-23 by Robair, Gino

It's a filter from Magic Smoke Electronics:
http://www.magsmoke.com/products.asp


On 5/23/06 12:00 PM, "Tim J" <bob_aloha@hotmail.com>scribbled:
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> Who the heck is Mankato?  Linky?
> 
> Thnx,
> Tim
> 
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>>> that. Bananalogue & Mankato are standing shoulder to shoulder with
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RE: [wiardgroup] Re: Mankato

2006-05-23 by Tim J

Wow, this is very cool.  Its the first I've heard of it...but I guess it 
isn't officially out yet...

Tim
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>From: "Robair, Gino" <grobair@prismb2b.com>
>Reply-To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com
>To: <wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [wiardgroup] Re: Mankato
>Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 12:24:29 -0700
>
>It's a filter from Magic Smoke Electronics:
>http://www.magsmoke.com/products.asp
>
>
>On 5/23/06 12:00 PM, "Tim J" <bob_aloha@hotmail.com>scribbled:
>
> > Who the heck is Mankato?  Linky?
> >
> > Thnx,
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >>> that. Bananalogue & Mankato are standing shoulder to shoulder with
> >
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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>

the return of Thomas Henry

2006-05-24 by drmabuce

> 
> I'm happy for the publicity, though a bit o' correction is in order. 
> Thomas Henry isn't behind Magic Smoke Electronics, but MSE is the new 
> (soon to be) source for his products.
> 

!!!!!

Well Dang! 
I assumed Thomas was back in the saddle for many reasons!
--"Mankato" was foremost
--naming the company after the phogistron of the semiconductor realm
(Magic Smoke)... very Thomas Henry!
-- and the reanimation of the books...
it's all had me so a-twitter i (apparently) hallucinated the presence
of Tom himself!
Apologies to all for the bum steer... 
(maybe i can still get a journalistic confessional novel about this
into Oprahs Book Club!) 
....but i'm still delighted to see Tom's clever work back in
circulation and i stand by my praise for EM in placing this gadget on
the page based on it's merits rather than it's sales figures. 
Kudos to John, Tim and Scott for keeping the Midwest Analog Products
torch burning!

(did you buy his stock of 566's too?)
;'>

-doc

Re: [wiardgroup] Re: EM roundup

2006-05-24 by John Mahoney

>not who...
>Where!!! the heck is Mankato......,
>Mankato is a (beautiful)  town in Southern Minnesota (Minn St. Univ is there)
>This fabled hamlet is the stomping grounds of the legendary Thomas
>Henry who has recently founded Magic Smoke Electronics
>
>and it's NOT what you think!
[snip]
>(hey guys! The Henry books are coming back ... the HENRY Books are
>coming back!!!)
>-doc
>(licensed senile smart ass)

I'm happy for the publicity, though a bit o' correction is in order. 
Thomas Henry isn't behind Magic Smoke Electronics, but MSE is the new 
(soon to be) source for his products.

Tim "Servo" and I started MSE because Thomas closed Midwest Analog 
but people still wanted to buy his books. Thanks to Scott Stites, we 
were able to contact Thomas and purchase the book rights. (We'll have 
them for sale again Real Soon now, I promise! By the way, they'll be 
PDF files -- anyone have problems with that?)

As it happened, Thomas also had a new VCF design, and did we want to 
buy the rights to it, too? Well, we were certainly interested! So Tim 
Servo built one and loved it -- just as Scott Stites had done -- so 
we went for it. Another unit was built and delivered to Gino for the 
EM article. We're very grateful to Gino for including us, to say the 
least, and super happy about the positive review.

We are still working on the website, producing PDFs of the books, and 
moving the VCF toward production. Of course, this is not our "real" 
job, so it's all taking longer than we'd like. I'll have the mailing 
list running in a few days, and Tim is almost done with the 
Electronic Drum Cookbook PDF.

As for the Mankato name: Tim and I were on the phone talking about 
the VCF's designation, "TH-201". Not too catchy, right? So we decided 
to actually name it. Trying to recall where Thomas was from, I opened 
one of TH's books and saw that he signed the Preface as "Thomas 
Henry, North Mankato, MN." Mankato jumped out at me. It sounds 
interesting (kind of Japanese), *nobody* has heard of it ;-), and it 
would be a nice little tribute to Thomas -- almost an inside joke. It 
prompted a funny comment from Scott:
         "Good thing Thomas isn't from Sheboygan!" ;-)
Nothing against the good people of Sheboygan, of course...

The Mankato filter will be available as PC boards first, then as 
kits, and as Frac Rack and Eurorack modules after that (assuming that 
things work out properly -- as you all know, it gets harder and 
harder to build things in the U.S. at reasonable cost).
--
john

Re: [wiardgroup] Re: EM roundup

2006-05-24 by Robair, Gino

On 5/23/06 6:15 PM, "John Mahoney" <jmahoney@gate.net>scribbled:
>  Another unit was built and delivered to Gino for the
> EM article. We're very grateful to Gino for including us, to say the
> least, and super happy about the positive review.

And Gino reluctantly returned it, I might add. If the finished product
sounds half as good as the prototype, sign me up.

To keep this on topic, I can't wait to hear that my Borg 2 is ready!
 (hint hint) :-)

g

Re: EM roundup

2006-05-25 by Grant Richter

> As for the Mankato name: Tim and I were on the phone talking about 
> the VCF's designation, "TH-201". Not too catchy, right? So we decided 
> to actually name it. Trying to recall where Thomas was from, I opened 
> one of TH's books and saw that he signed the Preface as "Thomas 
> Henry, North Mankato, MN." Mankato jumped out at me. It sounds 
> interesting (kind of Japanese), *nobody* has heard of it ;-), and it 
> would be a nice little tribute to Thomas -- almost an inside joke. It 
> prompted a funny comment from Scott:

<humor>

Is that pronounced "man-kay-to" or man-kah-to"

Your only alowed to have a synthesizer company if it has an ambiguous name that people on 
AH can debate endlessly about the correct pronounciation.

Like my motto: Weird, Wired, Whatever

"You can call me Fred or you can call me Red, but just don't call me late for dinner!"

</humor>

Re: EM roundup

2006-05-25 by Grant Richter

1200 series modules have been shipping with alacrity.

If they weren't, I'm sure you would hear about it.

You could say I'm the "Anti-brice" (you don't get any numbers on you forehead if your a 
follower though).

Special orders take longer of course. Like say dual versions of 1200 modules on 300 series 
faceplates. They still have to look good with the 300 series format, which is not that easy.


--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Robair, Gino" <grobair@...> wrote:
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> 
> 
> On 5/23/06 6:15 PM, "John Mahoney" <jmahoney@...>scribbled:
> >  Another unit was built and delivered to Gino for the
> > EM article. We're very grateful to Gino for including us, to say the
> > least, and super happy about the positive review.
> 
> And Gino reluctantly returned it, I might add. If the finished product
> sounds half as good as the prototype, sign me up.
> 
> To keep this on topic, I can't wait to hear that my Borg 2 is ready!
>  (hint hint) :-)
> 
> g
>

Re: EM roundup

2006-05-25 by mrboningen

it might "sound" japanese, but if you leave off the middle syllable
and a bit, you have a VERY rude word in japanese... be careful out
there, ha ha!

gregg

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, John Mahoney <jmahoney@...> wrote:
>
> 
> At 03:55 AM 5/25/2006, Grant wrote:
> ><humor>
> >
> >Is that pronounced "man-kay-to" or man-kah-to"
> 
> Heh.. Since it's in Mi-nuh-soh'-tuh, I can only assume that it's 
> pronounced by the locals as "man-kah-to" where the "kah" syllable 
> rhymes with "cat" instead of "car". In other words, "man-cat'-o". ;-)
> 
> OTOH, we Magic Smokers say "man-kah'-to".
> 
> 
> >Your only alowed to have a synthesizer company if it has an 
> >ambiguous name that people on
> >AH can debate endlessly about the correct pronounciation.
> >
> >Like my motto: Weird, Wired, Whatever
> 
> Is that available on a T-shirt?
> 
> 
> >"You can call me Fred or you can call me Red, but just don't call me 
> >late for dinner!"
> >
> ></humor>
> 
> Or, "I don't care what you say about me, as long as you spell my
name right."
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> --
> john
>

Re: EM roundup

2006-05-25 by mrboningen

the anti-brice, ha ha!

i could say more, but some poor people are still waiting for their
modules... i'm only waiting for the power lead and mounting screws...

anyway, on topic, the boogie filter self-resonating sine wave sounds
nicer than any of the other sine waves in my system!!!

gregg

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Grant Richter" <grichter@...> wrote:
>
> 1200 series modules have been shipping with alacrity.
> 
> If they weren't, I'm sure you would hear about it.
> 
> You could say I'm the "Anti-brice" (you don't get any numbers on you
forehead if your a 
> follower though).
> 
> Special orders take longer of course. Like say dual versions of 1200
modules on 300 series 
> faceplates. They still have to look good with the 300 series format,
which is not that easy.
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> 
> 
> --- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Robair, Gino" <grobair@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > On 5/23/06 6:15 PM, "John Mahoney" <jmahoney@>scribbled:
> > >  Another unit was built and delivered to Gino for the
> > > EM article. We're very grateful to Gino for including us, to say the
> > > least, and super happy about the positive review.
> > 
> > And Gino reluctantly returned it, I might add. If the finished product
> > sounds half as good as the prototype, sign me up.
> > 
> > To keep this on topic, I can't wait to hear that my Borg 2 is ready!
> >  (hint hint) :-)
> > 
> > g
> >
>

Re: [wiardgroup] Re: EM roundup

2006-05-25 by John Mahoney

At 03:55 AM 5/25/2006, Grant wrote:
><humor>
>
>Is that pronounced "man-kay-to" or man-kah-to"

Heh.. Since it's in Mi-nuh-soh'-tuh, I can only assume that it's 
pronounced by the locals as "man-kah-to" where the "kah" syllable 
rhymes with "cat" instead of "car". In other words, "man-cat'-o". ;-)

OTOH, we Magic Smokers say "man-kah'-to".


>Your only alowed to have a synthesizer company if it has an 
>ambiguous name that people on
>AH can debate endlessly about the correct pronounciation.
>
>Like my motto: Weird, Wired, Whatever

Is that available on a T-shirt?


>"You can call me Fred or you can call me Red, but just don't call me 
>late for dinner!"
>
></humor>

Or, "I don't care what you say about me, as long as you spell my name right."
--
john

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