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Comments below.

> From: "drmabuce" <drmabuce@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [wiardgroup] the man behind the curtain (was erudition vs grafitti)
>
> ah yes! the TRAP of cybernetics.
> - a trap i would gladly escape more often.... it's my 'day gig'
> and lemme tell ya - it ain't the sci-fi vision that folks think-
> Arthur Clarke really got it wrong. In reality, all Dave Bowman would have had
> to do on his trip to Jupiter is WAIT... for HAL9000's MSWindows v2001 OS  to
> encounter a trivial registry conflict and... DOINK!.... he would have
> de-installed himself and forced a reboot. On average this would occur
> ....ummmmmm
> twice a day (three times if there were deadlines)
> It would have made for a MUCH shorter movie.
> ;'>

Or, if you are in a real hurry, tap into the hacker website of your choice
(directly from Jupiter), get the MSWindows 2001 Preferred Backdoor List,
and tap into HAL.  No hassle, no need to displace HAL's holographic memory
modules.  Never mind all life support systems going down with HAL, but,
hey, you were in a hurry.  :-)

BTW, I was always impressed by the fact that HAL didn't have a plug.  :-)

> I said:
>> cults of personality formed around design concepts of the gadgets from which
>> the nature of the designers is extrapolated (with a predictably-high degree
>> of inaccuracy, I think)<
> 
> Bill said:
>> I think there is a significant amount of mixing of an individual's
> identity with what they have/bought/use/do.<

> Now right from the get-go. I really can't tell whether either Bill or
> Aurelialuz are addressing my point about the fallacy of discerning the nature
> of the DESIGNER from that which is designed. I kinda suspect that their
> statements are NOT addressed to my specific remark. But their points got me
> thinking a little further on the issue.

Although not explicitly I was pointing at the identification with the object
and consequently with the designer - if I as a consumer know the designer of
the object I love, and have access to the designer somehow, I can then
quote what the designer says to me to others, which elevates my status in
in the tribe.  What I call the messenger from god syndrome.  It's all tied
up.

Commenting on the rest of your post, what folks do is not who they are, as
what they do can change on a whim.

But, and here is the conundrum, you are known to people by what you do, so
they derive conclusions.  It is your business card so to speak.

Hence the paradox, made worse by disintermediation, as you can go from
un-informed to mis-informed in 0.1 seconds.  :-)


Regards,

Bill
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 Bill Sequeira, Ph.D.
 Principal, Axon Hillock