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Re: [wiardgroup] Re: the Real Wiard system package

2006-10-01 by Sam Ecoff

Hi Tim,

Perhaps some users want to buy a system from a single manufacturer, but I'd be willing to bet that the majority of modular users have at least two brands in their rigs. I currently have Wiard, Blacet, Metalbox, Paia, Doepfer, Modcan, Cynthia, and Arp.

:-)

Sam E.



On Oct 1, 2006, at 3:21 PM, Tim J wrote:

Yes but....

Its a silly, strange, fetish market (modular synths). While they are
entirely modular any any system can be used with any other no matter the
difference... people still like to purchase a 'system' from a manufacturer.
Its true in the frac system wiard, blacet, pai and motm can make a complete
system, a very complete weird and wonderful system but...people from my
observations are more likely to stick with one maker rather have a mixed
system or they also frequently have different systems which they dont mix.
I'm not trying to justify this trend (I currently have serge, plan b,
doepfer, technosaurus, and some others all working together) but have found
it to be true.

Tim


From: "Grant Richter" <grichter@asapnet.net>
Subject: [wiardgroup] Re: the Real Wiard system package
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:41:17 -0000

Following the same logic, what if everyone refused to listen to anyones
music except their
LAST composition or recording?

That attitude would certainly dampen the enthusiasm of all musicians and
composers.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Grant Richter" wrote:

That attitude absolutely garantees it will never happen.

Without ongoing module sales, there is no way to fund development.

--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, amnesia

Grant

The day you have a full 1200 system is the day you have my order, I
dont
currently have any frac units, just serge and euro.
I cant wait for that day :-)

Ross



Grant Richter wrote:

The goal of the 300 series was a cross between an ARP 2600 and a
Music
Easel.

The goal of the 1200 series is a cross between a Synthi and a Music
Easel.

It is very Joystick centric because of the Synthi heritage and
because
Joystick synths are
kinda rare. It is also designed so that the whole assemblage of
modules will fit inside a
suitcase type case which sits horizontaly.

The Noise Ring is the noise source which is combined with a complex
oscillator for pitched
events.

I am working on a new complex oscillator design. It shows promise.
It
will have unique
features never before offered in a VCO.

I would like to do an "Envelooper" which would generate multiple
simultaneous 1024 point
envelopes (256 points each for A, D, S, and R with individual
segment
rate control). One
output will be calibrated for 1 volt per octave pitch control. The
Wave256 software would
be used to store sequences and envelope shapes in EPROM.

Not the same as a sequencer but the end result IS sequences.

This would allow you to store pitch sequence, timbre sequence and
spectral envelopes
(lopass gate control) together. That way, you just trigger an
envelope
and it plays an entire
musical "gesture" with pitch, timbre and mutiple envelope events for
individually
articulated notes inside the overall gesture. These gestures could
last for minutes or
milliseconds depending on segment rate settings.

<mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia wrote:

I cant see you have VCOs Sequencer etc of the 300 series. Will
this
ever
be the case?

Grant Richter wrote:

The 1200 series modules are quite affordable and in some ways an
improvement on the
300 series.

<;mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia wrote:

That is sad as I will never be able to enjoy / afford such art
:-(

I could swap you some oil for a system :-)


Grant Richter wrote:

The price increase has to do with the crazy state of the
whole
music
electronics industry
and not any personal or corporate greed.

I should clarify: Not MY greed. I am not a greedy person.
You
DO NOT
make musical
instruments if you are greedy. If you are greedy, you get in
the oil
business.

To illustrate: When I was still selling modules new for
$479.00, two
businesses spang up
which would buy modules from me at the low price and
immediately
resell them for $750.00
the day they were received.

It is basic business logic that if you can purchase
something
directly
from the manufacturer
or hand-crafter and immediately turn around and resell it
for
a $300
profit, then the item is
under-priced to begin with.

So much for my well meaning but naive attempt to keep prices
reasonable for the "real"
musicians and enthusiasts.

It is other peoples greed that drove the prices up insanely
fast, not
mine.




















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