Perhaps some users want to buy a system from a single manufacturer, but I'd be willing to bet that the majority of modular users have at least two brands in their rigs. I currently have Wiard, Blacet, Metalbox, Paia, Doepfer, Modcan, Cynthia, and Arp.
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Sam E.
On Oct 1, 2006, at 3:21 PM, Tim J wrote:
Yes but....Its a silly, strange, fetish market (modular synths). While they areentirely modular any any system can be used with any other no matter thedifference... people still like to purchase a 'system' from a manufacturer.Its true in the frac system wiard, blacet, pai and motm can make a completesystem, a very complete weird and wonderful system but...people from myobservations are more likely to stick with one maker rather have a mixedsystem or they also frequently have different systems which they dont mix.I'm not trying to justify this trend (I currently have serge, plan b,doepfer, technosaurus, and some others all working together) but have foundit to be true.TimFrom: "Grant Richter" <grichter@asapnet.net>Reply-To: wiardgroup@yahoogroups.comSubject: [wiardgroup] Re: the Real Wiard system packageDate: Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:41:17 -0000Following the same logic, what if everyone refused to listen to anyonesmusic except theirLAST composition or recording?That attitude would certainly dampen the enthusiasm of all musicians andcomposers.--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, "Grant Richter" wrote:That attitude absolutely garantees it will never happen.Without ongoing module sales, there is no way to fund development.--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com, amnesiaGrantThe day you have a full 1200 system is the day you have my order, Idontcurrently have any frac units, just serge and euro.I cant wait for that day :-)RossGrant Richter wrote:The goal of the 300 series was a cross between an ARP 2600 and aMusicEasel.The goal of the 1200 series is a cross between a Synthi and a MusicEasel.It is very Joystick centric because of the Synthi heritage andbecauseJoystick synths arekinda rare. It is also designed so that the whole assemblage ofmodules will fit inside asuitcase type case which sits horizontaly.The Noise Ring is the noise source which is combined with a complexoscillator for pitchedevents.I am working on a new complex oscillator design. It shows promise.Itwill have uniquefeatures never before offered in a VCO.I would like to do an "Envelooper" which would generate multiplesimultaneous 1024 pointenvelopes (256 points each for A, D, S, and R with individualsegmentrate control). Oneoutput will be calibrated for 1 volt per octave pitch control. TheWave256 software wouldbe used to store sequences and envelope shapes in EPROM.Not the same as a sequencer but the end result IS sequences.This would allow you to store pitch sequence, timbre sequence andspectral envelopes(lopass gate control) together. That way, you just trigger anenvelopeand it plays an entiremusical "gesture" with pitch, timbre and mutiple envelope events forindividuallyarticulated notes inside the overall gesture. These gestures couldlast for minutes ormilliseconds depending on segment rate settings.--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia wrote:I cant see you have VCOs Sequencer etc of the 300 series. Willthiseverbe the case?Grant Richter wrote:The 1200 series modules are quite affordable and in some ways animprovement on the300 series.--- In wiardgroup@yahoogroups.com<;mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:wiardgroup%40yahoogroups.com>, amnesia wrote:That is sad as I will never be able to enjoy / afford such art:-(I could swap you some oil for a system :-)Grant Richter wrote:The price increase has to do with the crazy state of thewholemusicelectronics industryand not any personal or corporate greed.I should clarify: Not MY greed. I am not a greedy person.YouDO NOTmake musicalinstruments if you are greedy. If you are greedy, you get inthe oilbusiness.To illustrate: When I was still selling modules new for$479.00, twobusinesses spang upwhich would buy modules from me at the low price andimmediatelyresell them for $750.00the day they were received.It is basic business logic that if you can purchasesomethingdirectlyfrom the manufactureror hand-crafter and immediately turn around and resell itfora $300profit, then the item isunder-priced to begin with.So much for my well meaning but naive attempt to keep pricesreasonable for the "real"musicians and enthusiasts.It is other peoples greed that drove the prices up insanelyfast, notmine.Yahoo! Groups Links<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:<*> Your email settings:Individual Email | Traditional<*> To change settings online go to:(Yahoo! ID required)<*> To change settings via email:<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
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