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Prophet 2000 disk format?

Prophet 2000 disk format?

2008-03-13 by John Pallister

Hello list(s),

I would like to write a program to read & write disks from a 
Prophet 2000/2002 sampler. To this end I'm looking for 
information about the disk geometry (sector size, sectors 
per track etc.) and the structure of the data on the disk. 
I've checked the service manual, but it didn't have anything.

If anyone can help me, that'd be great. I would of course 
make the program (and its source) freely available.

I apologise for the low analogue content of this message. 
And for cross-posting. And for wearing these shoes with 
these pants.

Cheers,

John :^P
-- 
John Pallister
john@...
Wellington, New Zealand

Re: [prophet2000] Prophet 2000 disk format?

2008-03-13 by nobody cares


Although i havent been able to get it to work properly, Omniflop has an option to read/write prophet 2000/2002 discs. Perhaps the author of that would know? or can lead in the right direction

John Pallister wrote:
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Hello list(s),

I would like to write a program to read & write disks from a
Prophet 2000/2002 sampler. To this end I'm looking for
information about the disk geometry (sector size, sectors
per track etc.) and the structure of the data on the disk.
I've checked the service manual, but it didn't have anything.

If anyone can help me, that'd be great. I would of course
make the program (and its source) freely available.

I apologise for the low analogue content of this message.
And for cross-posting. And for wearing these shoes with
these pants.

Cheers,

John :^P
--
John Pallister
john@synchromesh.com
Wellington, New Zealand


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Re: [prophet2000] Prophet 2000 disk format?

2008-03-14 by ac

This has been discussed a few times on this list - check the archives.

From the little that we know, the news has always been that this is
not possible. The physical formatting of the disk is not compatible
with "modern" floppy drives. This could of course be wrong as I've no
idea where this originally came from.

Good luck though! This is definately something we'd all find amazingly useful.

ac
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On 13/03/2008, John Pallister <john@...> wrote:
> Hello list(s),
>
>  I would like to write a program to read & write disks from a
>  Prophet 2000/2002 sampler. To this end I'm looking for
>  information about the disk geometry (sector size, sectors
>  per track etc.) and the structure of the data on the disk.
>  I've checked the service manual, but it didn't have anything.
>
>  If anyone can help me, that'd be great. I would of course
>  make the program (and its source) freely available.
>
>  I apologise for the low analogue content of this message.
>  And for cross-posting. And for wearing these shoes with
>  these pants.
>
>  Cheers,
>
>  John :^P
>  --
>  John Pallister
>  john@...
>  Wellington, New Zealand
>
>
>  ------------------------------------
>
>  Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [prophet2000] Prophet 2000 disk format?

2008-03-15 by John Pallister

Thanks for your encouraging words. ;) I'm sure that the 
reading & writing (and probably the formatting) of the 
floppies is possible; OmniFlop is the existence proof for that.

There is plenty of discussion in the archives, mostly from 
people who leap straight from "I can't think of a way to do 
this" to "this cannot be done." ;)

For the record, the answer to that piece of the puzzle is 
Simon Owen's fdrawcmd.sys - http://simonowen.com/fdrawcmd/ 
This is a floppy drive filter driver equivalent to the one 
that OmniFlop uses.

So, I think I'm on my way to getting the raw data on & off 
the disk; reverse-engineering the disk image format may take 
slightly longer... ;) I have asked Wine Country for any 
information they have, but funnily enough they haven't come 
back with any technical details yet. I admit it was a long 
shot, but hey, there's no harm in asking (I hope).

Stay tuned,

John :^P

ac wrote:
> This has been discussed a few times on this list - check the archives.
> 
> From the little that we know, the news has always been that this is
> not possible. The physical formatting of the disk is not compatible
> with "modern" floppy drives. This could of course be wrong as I've no
> idea where this originally came from.
> 
> Good luck though! This is definately something we'd all find amazingly useful.
> 
> ac
> 
> On 13/03/2008, John Pallister <john@...> wrote:
>> Hello list(s),
>>
>>  I would like to write a program to read & write disks from a
>>  Prophet 2000/2002 sampler. To this end I'm looking for
>>  information about the disk geometry (sector size, sectors
>>  per track etc.) and the structure of the data on the disk.
>>  I've checked the service manual, but it didn't have anything.
>>
>>  If anyone can help me, that'd be great. I would of course
>>  make the program (and its source) freely available.
>>
>>  I apologise for the low analogue content of this message.
>>  And for cross-posting. And for wearing these shoes with
>>  these pants.
>>
>>  Cheers,
>>
>>  John :^P

-- 
John Pallister
john@...

Re: [prophet2000] Prophet 2000 disk format?

2008-03-15 by ac

Has anyone actually got Omniflop to work??
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On 15/03/2008, John Pallister <john@...> wrote:
> Thanks for your encouraging words. ;) I'm sure that the
>  reading & writing (and probably the formatting) of the
>  floppies is possible; OmniFlop is the existence proof for that.
>
>  There is plenty of discussion in the archives, mostly from
>  people who leap straight from "I can't think of a way to do
>  this" to "this cannot be done." ;)
>
>  For the record, the answer to that piece of the puzzle is
>  Simon Owen's fdrawcmd.sys - http://simonowen.com/fdrawcmd/
>  This is a floppy drive filter driver equivalent to the one
>  that OmniFlop uses.
>
>  So, I think I'm on my way to getting the raw data on & off
>  the disk; reverse-engineering the disk image format may take
>  slightly longer... ;) I have asked Wine Country for any
>  information they have, but funnily enough they haven't come
>  back with any technical details yet. I admit it was a long
>  shot, but hey, there's no harm in asking (I hope).
>
>  Stay tuned,
>
>  John :^P
>
>
>  ac wrote:
>  > This has been discussed a few times on this list - check the archives.
>  >
>  > From the little that we know, the news has always been that this is
>  > not possible. The physical formatting of the disk is not compatible
>  > with "modern" floppy drives. This could of course be wrong as I've no
>  > idea where this originally came from.
>  >
>  > Good luck though! This is definately something we'd all find amazingly useful.
>  >
>  > ac
>  >
>  > On 13/03/2008, John Pallister <john@...> wrote:
>  >> Hello list(s),
>  >>
>  >>  I would like to write a program to read & write disks from a
>  >>  Prophet 2000/2002 sampler. To this end I'm looking for
>  >>  information about the disk geometry (sector size, sectors
>  >>  per track etc.) and the structure of the data on the disk.
>  >>  I've checked the service manual, but it didn't have anything.
>  >>
>  >>  If anyone can help me, that'd be great. I would of course
>  >>  make the program (and its source) freely available.
>  >>
>  >>  I apologise for the low analogue content of this message.
>  >>  And for cross-posting. And for wearing these shoes with
>  >>  these pants.
>  >>
>  >>  Cheers,
>  >>
>  >>  John :^P
>
>  --
>  John Pallister
>  john@...
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
>  Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [prophet2000] Prophet 2000 disk format?

2008-03-15 by nobody cares


i got it to work for my akai s900. i was able to make a disc for the updated os. seems to work better with older discs that the newer ones i have though....

ac wrote:
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Has anyone actually got Omniflop to work??

On 15/03/2008, John Pallister <john@synchromesh.com> wrote:
> Thanks for your encouraging words. ;) I'm sure that the
> reading & writing (and probably the formatting) of the
> floppies is possible; OmniFlop is the existence proof for that.
>
> There is plenty of discussion in the archives, mostly from
> people who leap straight from "I can't think of a way to do
> this" to "this cannot be done." ;)
>
> For the record, the answer to that piece of the puzzle is
> Simon Owen's fdrawcmd.sys - http://simonowen.com/fdrawcmd/
> This is a floppy drive filter driver equivalent to the one
> that OmniFlop uses.
>
> So, I think I'm on my way to getting the raw data on & off
> the disk; reverse-engineering the disk image format may take
> slightly longer... ;) I have asked Wine Country for any
> information they have, but funnily enough they haven't come
> back with any technical details yet. I admit it was a long
> shot, but hey, there's no harm in asking (I hope).
>
> Stay tuned,
>
> John :^P
>
>
> ac wrote:
> > This has been discussed a few times on this list - check the archives.
> >
> > From the little that we know, the news has always been that this is
> > not possible. The physical formatting of the disk is not compatible
> > with "modern" floppy drives. This could of course be wrong as I've no
> > idea where this originally came from.
> >
> > Good luck though! This is definately something we'd all find amazingly useful.
> >
> > ac
> >
> > On 13/03/2008, John Pallister <john@synchromesh.com> wrote:
> >> Hello list(s),
> >>
> >> I would like to write a program to read & write disks from a
> >> Prophet 2000/2002 sampler. To this end I'm looking for
> >> information about the disk geometry (sector size, sectors
> >> per track etc.) and the structure of the data on the disk.
> >> I've checked the service manual, but it didn't have anything.
> >>
> >> If anyone can help me, that'd be great. I would of course
> >> make the program (and its source) freely available.
> >>
> >> I apologise for the low analogue content of this message.
> >> And for cross-posting. And for wearing these shoes with
> >> these pants.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> John :^P
>
> --
> John Pallister
> john@synchromesh.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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