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2011-09-07 by feline1973
Wow. Just had an email from Markus. Slight bad news: my M4000D is delayed by another 3 weeks. Amazing unexpected news: they have been updating the OS to allow the M4000D to function as a MIDI controller with the much-sought-after, rarely-implement Polyphonic Aftertouch! Wow! That just made the M4000D twice as useful (and it sure won't weigh as much as my Kurzweil MIDIboard!)
2011-09-07 by Gary Brumm
It won't weigh as much but the keyboard is way too short for a lot of things (piano for example, will it even have enough pedal inputs). The MIDIboard it still the king....albeit the heavy one!
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of feline1973 Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 12:11 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: [newmellotrongroup] polyphonic aftertouch! Wow. Just had an email from Markus. Slight bad news: my M4000D is delayed by another 3 weeks. Amazing unexpected news: they have been updating the OS to allow the M4000D to function as a MIDI controller with the much-sought-after, rarely-implement Polyphonic Aftertouch! Wow! That just made the M4000D twice as useful (and it sure won't weigh as much as my Kurzweil MIDIboard!)
2011-09-08 by feline1973
Yeah but polyphonic aftertouch is irrelevant to "piano" sounds - once the hammer has struck the strings you can't make anything else happen to the tone by trying to perform "aftertouch" on the keys. PolyAT is much more useful for things like evolving synth pads or adding vibrato to brass/woodwind style sounds - which seldom require 88 keys, but then to fit fine within a few octaves. So whilst an M4000D certainly would not compete with the Kurzweil MIDIboard or new VAX77 for offering the ultimate versatility as a MIDI controller with PolyAT, I suspect it will actually be a very musically useful one for the majority of applications you'd have for PolyAT. --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@...> wrote:
> > It won't weigh as much but the keyboard is way too short for a lot of things (piano for example, will it even have enough pedal inputs). > The MIDIboard it still the king....albeit the heavy one! > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of feline1973 > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 12:11 PM > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] polyphonic aftertouch! > > > > Wow. > Just had an email from Markus. > Slight bad news: my M4000D is delayed by another 3 weeks. > Amazing unexpected news: they have been updating the OS to allow the M4000D to function as a MIDI controller with the much-sought-after, rarely-implement Polyphonic Aftertouch! Wow! > > That just made the M4000D twice as useful (and it sure won't weigh as much as my Kurzweil MIDIboard!) >
2011-09-08 by Gary Brumm
Yes, I was speaking as a MIDI controller vs the MIDIboard. It does however make it more useful in general. I am sure it will outsell the tape units by a large margin. I hope they make a rack version because in a multifunction keyboard setup I would personally rather not have a hardware keyboard that short but I wouldn't mind setting up a split for it. I have poly AT in my Kawai M8000 but it's so damn heavy it usually stays in the studio. I rarely use the poly AT but it is a cool effect. From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of feline1973 Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:52 AM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: polyphonic aftertouch! Yeah but polyphonic aftertouch is irrelevant to "piano" sounds - once the hammer has struck the strings you can't make anything else happen to the tone by trying to perform "aftertouch" on the keys. PolyAT is much more useful for things like evolving synth pads or adding vibrato to brass/woodwind style sounds - which seldom require 88 keys, but then to fit fine within a few octaves. So whilst an M4000D certainly would not compete with the Kurzweil MIDIboard or new VAX77 for offering the ultimate versatility as a MIDI controller with PolyAT, I suspect it will actually be a very musically useful one for the majority of applications you'd have for PolyAT. --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@...<mailto:gabru@...>> wrote:
> > It won't weigh as much but the keyboard is way too short for a lot of things (piano for example, will it even have enough pedal inputs). > The MIDIboard it still the king....albeit the heavy one! > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of feline1973 > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 12:11 PM > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] polyphonic aftertouch! > > > > Wow. > Just had an email from Markus. > Slight bad news: my M4000D is delayed by another 3 weeks. > Amazing unexpected news: they have been updating the OS to allow the M4000D to function as a MIDI controller with the much-sought-after, rarely-implement Polyphonic Aftertouch! Wow! > > That just made the M4000D twice as useful (and it sure won't weigh as much as my Kurzweil MIDIboard!) >