The Mellotron Group

I don't recall too much politics in 1973... just a bit of goofing on the  
British economy.
 
 
In a message dated 11/19/2012 12:43:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
gabru@comsec.net writes:

 
 
 
 
I worked with  a Gabriel era Genesis tribute act for several years.  They 
did the full  show down to the theatrics.   
The audience  loved it but it never did anything for me.  The music on the 
other hand  was incredible IMHO and  
I really  enjoyed doing those shows.  The first time I saw Genesis live was 
on the  “Seconds Out” tour which to  
me was their  peak even though Gabriel was already gone.  I have seen them 
once in the  last ten years and they  
performed  well but it was kind of commercialized and starchy IMHO.  I have 
seen  Gabriel live and enjoy his music  
but hate his  political ramblings between songs ( thing we talked about 
that before).   When I listen to Genesis it  
it usually  the live Seconds Out recording I choose.  I prefer to listen to 
live  recordings of most groups when I can.   
Gary 
 
 
 
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com  
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike  Dickson
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 1:07 AM
To:  newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup]  Genesis Live 1973

 
 
 
I've seen quite a few 'real people playing real instruments', Frank.  I 
don't have time for much else, really, even if I am having a hard time  
deciding what constitutes a 'real instrument'.   
 

 
My point is only that the whole spectacle looks  idiotic.  I'm pretty sure 
I would have thought the same thing at age  20 as well.
 

 
Mike
 
 
On 19 November 2012 07:37, <_lsf5275@aol.com_ (mailto:lsf5275@aol.com) > 
wrote: 
 
 
 
 
 
I remember seeing Genesis at the  Tower theater in Philadelphia back in 
1973. no Mark II but an M400. Mike might  think the whole thing is silly, but 
for a 21 year old I was pretty  impressionable. I LOVED IT! The first live 
concert I ever saw was outdoors on  the Mall in DC. I don't think I was yet 
16. It was Alice Cooper opening for  Arthur Brown. Spring or summer of 1968. I 
didn't turn 16 until that  November.
 

 
Alice Cooper came out in a pink  dress. The band was called "Alice Cooper" 
at the time. I don't think Vince  Furnier had adopted the name for himself 
yet. I was about 50 feet from the  stage and I remember the guitarist (I 
think) at some point in the show had a  giant Styrofoam fist that he slid up and 
down Vince's body (in the pink dress)  until he spit some kind of white 
creamy fluid all over the people in front of  the stage.
 

 
I freaked out. It was great  stuff.
 

 
Then, after Alice Cooper left  the stage, the back line guys swapped out 
the gear and the stage went dark...  for about ten minutes. Suddenly there was 
a rumble after a few seconds, a  voice in the dark screamed out..." I AM 
THE GOD OF HELL FIRE... AND I BRING  YOU... FIRE. There was an explosion of 
light and this guy comes down down  on a wire (Deus Ex Machina- only at the 
beginning instead of the end) with one  arm extended outwards and the other 
holding a mic and HIS HEAD WAS  ON FIRE. Well, at least that what I thought at 
first, but it was actually a  helmet of some kind. I remember little else 
of that show, but that much, I  will never forget.
 

 
I saw lots of concerts after  that but nothing that approached the wonder 
and surprise until 1973 at the  Tower. I saw Gabriel era Genesis twice more 
after that also in Philadelphia  and was fortunate enough to be 4th row 
center at the Civic Center for The Lamb  show.
 

 
Looking back at now, at the age  of 60  I still get a sense of  what I felt 
back then. And over the years, having seen The Musical Box  recreate these 
shows, as good at it as they are (were) Nothing can touch the  memories of 
those shows when I was that age.
 

 
So make fun of it if you will,  Mike... I pity you for having missed it. 
Real people playing real  instruments.
 
 
 

 
 
In a message dated 11/19/2012  1:30:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_pocotron@yahoo.com_ (mailto:pocotron@yahoo.com)   writes:

 
 
 
Hi  all-
 
In listening to  the "Watcher" intro, one can hear the brass/violins mix, 
but the brass  sounds a bit like the "Brass B" recording to me.  Later on, in 
"Dancing  with the Moonlight Knight", the violins are alone.  A choir  can 
also be heard by itself elswhere (I forget where) in the  concert.  I have 
to assume the frame was loaded  with Brass B, 3 Violins (probably M400 
Violins) and  8 Choir.
 

 
-Bruce  D.
 

 

 
 
 
From: gino wong <_wonggster@gmail.com_ (mailto:wonggster@gmail.com) >
To: _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com)  
Sent: Sunday,  November 18, 2012 3:55 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Genesis  Live 1973
 
 
 
 
So they doubled the organ with  the 400 strings ?    
 
I guess they had to do  something when they went from many to three sounds. 
 
 
On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 4:26  PM, <_lsf5275@aol.com_ 
(mailto:lsf5275@aol.com) > wrote:  
 
 
 
 
 
They began using the organ  instead of the bass accordion .
 
 

 
 
In a message dated 11/18/2012  2:34:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_wonggster@gmail.com_ (mailto:wonggster@gmail.com)   writes:

 
I think they were  using an M 400 in the studio by the time of Selling 
England....  I do  wonder how they accounted for the difference in sound between 
the Mk2  strings and the bass accordion for Watcher which was a big part of 
their  show for a long time. Did they have special tapes or did they just 
roll  with what was around. 
 

 
Surely somebody  knows.








 

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