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From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@aol.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Jul 25, 2011 7:26 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] So - The train wreck finally wrecked


  
    
                  

When did he die?
 

In a message dated 7/25/2011 7:19:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tronbros@aol.com writes:
    
  
  
Whatever your opinion is of Ms. Whitehouse, she wrote Love is a Loser's   Game and that is a beautiful composition.  It may even be her Yesterday.   There are some well rounded compositions from Amy's pen in a very short   career.  She could well have become a songwriter's songwriter.    Regarding drugs, even dear sweet Justin Haystack was stoned through most   of the Moodies recording sessions....apparently.
  


  
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On 25 Jul 2011, at 22:59, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>   wrote:


  
  
    
      
    
On 25/07/2011 12:44, Chris Dale wrote:


    
      
      
      
        
I never got into her music. Her drug / alcohol abuse ruins her       credibility for me. (Hendix had a strong record of enormous talent before       he became a junkie). 




I find     this incredible. I can guarantee that most of the music you know and love     was made by people who were out of their flaming boxes when they dreamed it     up.  Absolutely off their kites.  Stoned out of their     gourds.  baked.  Roasted.  Six kinds of Wednesday.      Smashed.  Toked.  Why apply one set of rules to the people whose     music you happen to like and not to others?  Frankly I don't care one     iota if someone is a junkie or not if I like their music.  All three     members of Cream were blasted out of their little red wagons when     they wrote and made their music.  Is it any good?  Of course it     is.  If you don't like it then it's a matter of taste, but to     say it's bad because they used drugs is little short of idiotic.     

Notice - you said that 'her drug / alcohol abuse ruins her     credibility for me'.  I mean...where to start?  None of (say) Amy     Winehouse's music sounds like she was tottering about the studio in a state     of intoxication; barely any marketable label (like...oh I     dunno...Island) would tolerate that fiscal waste these days.  So     what you are actually saying is that because she used drugs her music is     no good.  If you meanrt something else then maybe you could     articulate it a bit better, but that is what your words say. 

I don't     much care for drugs.  I didn't much care for Amy Winehouse's music     either.  But this kind of 
 
    
      
      
      
      
I'll stick with music made by musicians who indisputably make, write       and perform their own music and don't need gaudy and tacky stage       shows, secret songwriting teams,  and alarmist political tactics       and causes to draw attention to     themselves.



I think you will find     without any doubt that Winehouse, Madonna and Lady Gaga write/wrote and     performed their own material.  Certainly the latter two are two women     very much in command of what they do. 

Secret songwriting     teams?  Really?  Like who? I think you'll find that most     songwriters (or secret teams) are probably quite motivated not     to be secret because being secret means less money.  The     days of Tin Pan Alley writers churning out song after song on the odd chance     that one will hit paydirt are long behind us.  

I don't know who     you are referring to about 'alarmist political tactics', but it sounds     weird.  Bear in mind that one Elvis Presley was possibly the most     alarming thing that the sheltered bits of the USA had ever seen at one     point.  Mostly because he reminded people how babies are     made.  That was something terrifying.  And it sold     records.  And it was still terrifying enough to ban bits of him from     the screens of the nation's TV sets.  Deeply alarming.  Well,     maybe not.  Perhaps that was a mantle better reserved for Little     Richard.  He must have seemed like a thermonuclear     device.

And....gaudy and tacky stage shows?  This from someone     who like prog rock?  This one     hit me like a brick in the face! Can you possibly be     serious???

EXHIBIT 1: http://cdn.crooksandliars.com/files/uploads/2010/04/genesis_petergabriel_live_2954b.jpg
EXHIBIT     2: http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Millennium/General/1999/02/25/codpiece.jpg
EXHIBIT     3: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/94/240935102_c05b4e74ac.jpg
EXHIBIT     4: http://www.keyboardmag.com/uploadedimages/keyboardmag/articles/emerson_opener_web.jpg
EXHIBIT     5: http://yesmuseum.org/images/RickOnIce.JPG

I     can stop any time you like.

    
      
      
      
      
 That's why I like prog - not a Labatts or       McDonalds ad  or association in     sight.



Given the above I'm not     surprised. It wouldn't pay.  


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Mike Dickson, Edinburgh