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2010-10-08 by ClayE
I wonder if it has one paper roll or several synchronized rolls. Who made the rolls for Metheny's music? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it would be a deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would not be a boring show?
2010-10-08 by ClayE
Metheny is controlling these "player" instruments with his guitar. Explained at 3:05 here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VymAn8QJNQ --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:
> > I wonder if it has one paper roll or several synchronized rolls. Who made the rolls for Metheny's music? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok > If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it would be a deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would not be a boring show? >
2010-10-08 by Pomeroy RH Ranch
Metheny is controlling these "player" instruments with his guitar. Explained at 3:05 here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VymAn8QJNQ
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" wrote:
>
> I wonder if it has one paper roll or several synchronized rolls. Who made the rolls for Metheny's music?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok
> If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it would be a deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would not be a boring show?
>
2010-10-08 by tspit74@comcast.net
I saw Pat with his Orchestrion a few months ago at Orchestra Hall in Chicago. An absolute mind blowing experience. I'm still trying to come to terms with it. I still catch myself drooling and babbling senselessly on a daily basis at the very thought of it.
----- Original Message ----- From: "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 8, 2010 9:09:04 AM Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates I wonder if it has one paper roll or several synchronized rolls. Who made the rolls for Metheny's music? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it would be a deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would not be a boring show?
2010-10-08 by Tom Doncourt
Metheny is controlling these "player" instruments with his guitar. Explained at 3:05 here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VymAn8QJNQ
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" wrote:
>
> I wonder if it has one paper roll or several synchronized rolls. Who made the rolls for Metheny's music?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok
> If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it would be a deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would not be a boring show?
>
2010-10-08 by fdoddy@aol.com
Met the guy who heads up and builds/designs these things. Outrageous!
fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Oct 8, 2010 10:23 am
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates
Metheny is controlling these "player" instruments with his guitar. Explained at 3:05 here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VymAn8QJNQ
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:> > I wonder if it has one paper roll or several synchronized rolls. Who made the rolls for Metheny's music? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok > If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it would be a deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would not be a boring show? >
2010-10-08 by fdoddy@aol.com
It's controlled via C74's MAX. He sequences on whatever he wants, exports midi files and then they are imported to proprietary software that drives the bots.
fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Doncourt <tomdcour@amnh.org>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Oct 8, 2010 11:22 am
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates
I had imagined that he was creating layers of midi info using the guitar as controller and feeding into some DAW that was then informing some automation hardware....
On Oct 8, 2010, at 10:23 AM, ClayE wrote:
Metheny is controlling these "player" instruments with his guitar. Explained at 3:05 here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VymAn8QJNQ
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:> > I wonder if it has one paper roll or several synchronized rolls. Who made the rolls for Metheny's music? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok > If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it would be a deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would not be a boring show? >
2010-10-08 by Mark Pring
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwZ_hMDzKmE --- On Sat, 9/10/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:
From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, 9 October, 2010, 3:09 AM
I wonder if it has one paper roll or several synchronized rolls. Who made the rolls for Metheny's music?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok
If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it would be a deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would not be a boring show?2010-10-08 by Tom Doncourt
It's controlled via C74's MAX. He sequences on whatever he wants, exports midi files and then they are imported to proprietary software that drives the bots.
fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Doncourt <tomdcour@amnh.org>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Oct 8, 2010 11:22 am
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates
I had imagined that he was creating layers of midi info using the guitar as controller and feeding into some DAW that was then informing some automation hardware....
On Oct 8, 2010, at 10:23 AM, ClayE wrote:Metheny is controlling these "player" instruments with his guitar. Explained at 3:05 here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VymAn8QJNQ
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" wrote:
>
> I wonder if it has one paper roll or several synchronized rolls. Who made the rolls for Metheny's music?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok
> If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it would be a deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would not be a boring show?
>
2010-10-09 by markpringnz
The effect is much the same as midi triggered samples. It lacks the flexability and variation of live musicians playing together. Obviously not suitable for rock, jazz or the blues but can work well for highly structured music like baroque fugues. Mark --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:
> > I wonder if it has one paper roll or several synchronized rolls. Who made the rolls for Metheny's music? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok > If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it would be a deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would not be a boring show? >
2010-10-09 by ClayE
I think that the Orchestrion's midi triggered solenoids / hammers have an advantage over midi triggered samples. The electro-mechanical parts introduce some varations in the timing. Midi sequencer triggered samples often sound too precise and measured like Nintendo music. Natural sounding music needs to be a bit sloppy. --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@...> wrote:
> > > The effect is much the same as midi triggered samples. It lacks the flexability and variation of live musicians playing together. Obviously not suitable for rock, jazz or the blues but can work well for highly structured music like baroque fugues. > > Mark > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@> wrote: > > > > I wonder if it has one paper roll or several synchronized rolls. Who made the rolls for Metheny's music? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok > > If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it would be a deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would not be a boring show? > > >
2010-10-09 by lsf5275@aol.com
Here's something fun... _http://home.swipnet.se/~w-22134/nmm/_ (http://home.swipnet.se/~w-22134/nmm/) In a message dated 10/9/2010 6:56:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ecclesreinson@rogers.com writes: I think that the Orchestrion's midi triggered solenoids / hammers have an advantage over midi triggered samples. The electro-mechanical parts introduce some varations in the timing. Midi sequencer triggered samples often sound too precise and measured like Nintendo music. Natural sounding music needs to be a bit sloppy. --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , "markpringnz" <markpringnz@...> wrote: > > > The effect is much the same as midi triggered samples. It lacks the flexability and variation of live musicians playing together. Obviously not suitable for rock, jazz or the blues but can work well for highly structured music like baroque fugues. > > Mark > --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@> wrote: > > > > I wonder if it has one paper roll or several synchronized rolls. Who made the rolls for Metheny's music? > > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok) > > If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it would be a deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would not be a boring show? > > >
2010-10-10 by Mark Pring
I think sloppy suits music composed after Bach but not before. Apart from Gould and Tureck some of my favourite Bach is direct midi output, more often than not the performer and their interpretation just get in the way, music written after Bach is so bereft of ideas that you need a "performance" from the player just to cover up the vacuum at the heart of the music.
Mark
--- On Sun, 10/10/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:
From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 10 October, 2010, 11:56 AM
I think that the Orchestrion's midi triggered solenoids / hammers have an advantage over midi triggered samples. The electro-mechanical parts introduce some varations in the timing. Midi sequencer triggered samples often sound too precise and measured like Nintendo music. Natural sounding music needs to be a bit sloppy.
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@...> wrote:> > > The effect is much the same as midi triggered samples. It lacks the flexability and variation of live musicians playing together. Obviously not suitable for rock, jazz or the blues but can work well for highly structured music like baroque fugues. > > Mark > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@> wrote: > > > > I wonder if it has one paper roll or several synchronized rolls. Who made the rolls for Metheny's music? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok > > If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it would be a deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would not be a boring show? > > >
2010-10-10 by Pomeroy RH Ranch
sick....just sick lsf5275@aol.com wrote:
> > > Here's something fun... > > http://home.swipnet.se/~w-22134/nmm/ > <http://home.swipnet.se/%7Ew-22134/nmm/> > > In a message dated 10/9/2010 6:56:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > ecclesreinson@rogers.com writes: > > > > I think that the Orchestrion's midi triggered solenoids / hammers > have an advantage over midi triggered samples. The > electro-mechanical parts introduce some varations in the timing. > Midi sequencer triggered samples often sound too precise and > measured like Nintendo music. Natural sounding music needs to be a > bit sloppy. > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "markpringnz" > <markpringnz@...> wrote: > > > > > > The effect is much the same as midi triggered samples. It lacks > the flexability and variation of live musicians playing together. > Obviously not suitable for rock, jazz or the blues but can work > well for highly structured music like baroque fugues. > > > > Mark > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "ClayE" > <ecclesreinson@> wrote: > > > > > > I wonder if it has one paper roll or several synchronized > rolls. Who made the rolls for Metheny's music? > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok > > > If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it > would be a deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would > not be a boring show? > > > > > > >
2010-10-10 by Mark Pring
Great stuff, it don't mean a thing if it has got that swing. --- On Sun, 10/10/10, lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:
From: lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 10 October, 2010, 12:54 PM
Here's something fun...
http://home.swipnet.se/~w-22134/nmm/
In a message dated 10/9/2010 6:56:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
ecclesreinson@rogers.com writes:
I think that the Orchestrion's midi triggered solenoids / hammers have an
advantage over midi triggered samples. The electro-mechanical parts introduce
some varations in the timing. Midi sequencer triggered samples often sound too
precise and measured like Nintendo music. Natural sounding music needs to be a
bit sloppy.
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com,
"markpringnz" <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
>
> The
effect is much the same as midi triggered samples. It lacks the flexability
and variation of live musicians playing together. Obviously not suitable for
rock, jazz or the blues but can work well for highly structured music like
baroque fugues.
>
> Mark
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com,
"ClayE" <ecclesreinson@> wrote:
> >
> > I wonder if it
has one paper roll or several synchronized rolls. Who made the rolls for
Metheny's music?
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok
>
> If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it would be a
deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would not be a boring
show?
> >
>2010-10-10 by Mark Pring
This is what I mean:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jS6o4vrqlU
It's not one of mine, it is a bit slow though.
Mark
--- On Sun, 10/10/10, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 10 October, 2010, 1:14 PM
I think sloppy suits music composed after Bach but not before. Apart from Gould and Tureck some of my favourite Bach is direct midi output, more often than not the performer and their interpretation just get in the way, music written after Bach is so bereft of ideas that you need a "performance" from the player just to cover up the vacuum at the heart of the music.
Mark
--- On Sun, 10/10/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:
From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 10 October, 2010, 11:56
AM
I think that the Orchestrion's midi triggered solenoids / hammers have an advantage over midi triggered samples. The electro-mechanical parts introduce some varations in the timing. Midi sequencer triggered samples often sound too precise and measured like Nintendo music. Natural sounding music needs to be a bit sloppy.
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@...> wrote:> > > The effect is much the same as midi triggered samples. It lacks the flexability and variation of live musicians playing together. Obviously not suitable for rock, jazz or the blues but can work well for highly structured music like baroque fugues. > > Mark > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@> wrote: > > > > I wonder if it has one paper roll or several synchronized rolls. Who made the rolls for Metheny's music? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok > > If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it would be a deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would not be a boring show? > > >
2010-10-10 by Rick Blechta
I think sloppy suits music composed after Bach but not before. Apart from Gould and Tureck some of my favourite Bach is direct midi output, more often than not the performer and their interpretation just get in the way, music written after Bach is so bereft of ideas that you need a "performance" from the player just to cover up the vacuum at the heart of the music.
2010-10-10 by fdoddy@aol.com
Woah! Yo dog! You been hangin' wit Mike D ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates
I think sloppy suits music composed after Bach but not before. Apart from Gould and Tureck some of my favourite Bach is direct midi output, more often than not the performer and their interpretation just get in the way, music written after Bach is so bereft of ideas that you need a "performance" from the player just to cover up the vacuum at the heart of the music.
Mark
--- On Sun, 10/10/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:
From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 10 October, 2010, 11:56 AM
I think that the Orchestrion's midi triggered solenoids / hammers have an advantage over midi triggered samples. The electro-mechanical parts introduce some varations in the timing. Midi sequencer triggered samples often sound too precise and measured like Nintendo music. Natural sounding music needs to be a bit sloppy.
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@...> wrote:> > > The effect is much the same as midi triggered samples. It lacks the flexability and variation of live musicians playing together. Obviously not suitable for rock, jazz or the blues but can work well for highly structured music like baroque fugues. > > Mark > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@> wrote: > > > > I wonder if it has one paper roll or several synchronized rolls. Who made the rolls for Metheny's music? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok > > If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it would be a deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would not be a boring show? > > >
2010-10-10 by fdoddy@aol.com
I think sloppy suits music composed after Bach but not before. Apart from Gould and Tureck some of my favourite Bach is direct midi output, more often than not the performer and their interpretation just get in the way, music written after Bach is so bereft of ideas that you need a "performance" from the player just to cover up the vacuum at the heart of the music.
2010-10-10 by Mark Pring
Woof
--- On Sun, 10/10/10, fdoddy@aol.com <fdoddy@aol.com> wrote:
From: fdoddy@aol.com <fdoddy@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 10 October, 2010, 2:44 PM
Woah! Yo dog! You been hangin' wit Mike D ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates
I think sloppy suits music composed after Bach but not before. Apart from Gould and Tureck some of my favourite Bach is direct midi output, more often than not the performer and their interpretation just get in the way, music written after Bach is so bereft of ideas that you need a "performance" from the player just to cover up the vacuum at the heart of the music.
Mark
--- On Sun, 10/10/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:
From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 10 October, 2010, 11:56
AM
I think that the Orchestrion's midi triggered solenoids / hammers have an advantage over midi triggered samples. The electro-mechanical parts introduce some varations in the timing. Midi sequencer triggered samples often sound too precise and measured like Nintendo music. Natural sounding music needs to be a bit sloppy.
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@...> wrote:> > > The effect is much the same as midi triggered samples. It lacks the flexability and variation of live musicians playing together. Obviously not suitable for rock, jazz or the blues but can work well for highly structured music like baroque fugues. > > Mark > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@> wrote: > > > > I wonder if it has one paper roll or several synchronized rolls. Who made the rolls for Metheny's music? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZ2Ldrr5ok > > If Metheny toured with a midi sequencer/sampler for a band, it would be a deadly boring show. Touring with this Orchestrion would not be a boring show? > > >
2010-10-10 by Mark Pring
I probably am Rick, well I usually am anyway, the annoying thing is that there is no way of proving it, I believe that Bach was a greater composer than what I am, but alas I can't think of any way of making certain. Your most humble and obedient servant Johann Sebstian Pring --- On Sun, 10/10/10, Rick Blechta <rick@rickblechta.com> wrote:
From: Rick Blechta <rick@rickblechta.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 10 October, 2010, 2:00 PM
On Oct 9, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Mark Pring wrote:
I think sloppy suits music composed after Bach but not before. Apart from Gould and Tureck some of my favourite Bach is direct midi output, more often than not the performer and their interpretation just get in the way, music written after Bach is so bereft of ideas that you need a "performance" from the player just to cover up the vacuum at the heart of the music.
Boy, do I think you're wrong.
Rick2010-10-10 by Mark Pring
I have no werd --- On Sun, 10/10/10, fdoddy@aol.com <fdoddy@aol.com> wrote:
From: fdoddy@aol.com <fdoddy@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Sunday, 10 October, 2010, 2:45 PM
werd
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Blechta <rick@rickblechta.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 9, 2010 9:00 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates
On Oct 9, 2010, at 8:14 PM, Mark Pring wrote:
I think sloppy suits music composed after Bach but not before. Apart from Gould and Tureck some of my favourite Bach is direct midi output, more often than not the performer and their interpretation just get in the way, music written after Bach is so bereft of ideas that you need a "performance" from the player just to cover up the vacuum at the heart of the music.
Boy, do I think you're wrong.
Rick2010-10-10 by lsf5275@aol.com
I love that guy, even if he can't spell Sebastian. In a message dated 10/9/2010 9:52:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, markpringnz@yahoo.com writes: Johann Sebstian Pring
2010-10-10 by Rick Blechta
I still catch myself drooling and babbling senselessly on a daily basis at the very thought of it.
2010-10-10 by Mike Dickson
Why do you say that? I think he's about as wrong as it's possible to get.
On 10/10/2010 02:44, fdoddy@aol.com wrote: > > Woah! Yo dog! You been hangin' wit Mike D ? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:14 pm > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware > and replicates > > I think sloppy suits music composed after Bach but not before. Apart > from Gould and Tureck some of my favourite Bach is direct midi output, > more often than not the performer and their interpretation just get in > the way, music written after Bach is so bereft of ideas that you need > a "performance" from the player just to cover up the vacuum at the > heart of the music. > > Mark >
2010-10-10 by Mark Pring
and thats wronger than what Rick does. --- On Mon, 11/10/10, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion becomes self-aware and replicates
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Monday, 11 October, 2010, 5:22 AM
Why do you say that?
I think he's about as wrong as it's possible to get.
On 10/10/2010 02:44, fdoddy@aol.com wrote:
Woah! Yo dog! You
been hangin' wit Mike D ?
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Oct 9, 2010 8:14 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Orchestrion
becomes self-aware and replicates
I think sloppy suits
music composed after Bach but not
before. Apart from Gould and
Tureck some of my favourite Bach
is direct midi output, more often
than not the performer and their
interpretation just get in the
way, music written after Bach is
so bereft of ideas that you need a
"performance" from the player just
to cover up the vacuum at the
heart of the music.
Mark2010-10-10 by Rick Blechta
and thats wronger than what Rick does.