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The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-23 by marabus

From another list.
Pete


Roy DeRousse wrote:
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> This is one of the funniest things I've seen in a while:
>
> http://io9.com/5522168/the-venture-bros-the-key-to-science-is-prog-rock
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-23 by john barrick

Love that cartoon, though I'm never sure when it's on.  "No air 
drumming, son...". Hah!


marabus wrote:
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>  
>
> From another list.
> Pete
>
> Roy DeRousse wrote:
> > This is one of the funniest things I've seen in a while:
> >
> > 
> http://io9.com/5522168/the-venture-bros-the-key-to-science-is-prog-rock 
> <http://io9.com/5522168/the-venture-bros-the-key-to-science-is-prog-rock>
> >
>
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-23 by Bruce Daily

Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?).  I remember the ones that had speakers planted in them.  $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's.  I believe Roger Dean even designed one.  Phaaaaar Out!
 
   -Bruce D.


--- On Fri, 4/23/10, john barrick <astroboy@cinci.rr.com> wrote:


From: john barrick <astroboy@cinci.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 4:06 AM


  



Love that cartoon, though I'm never sure when it's on. "No air 
drumming, son...". Hah!

marabus wrote:
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>
> From another list.
> Pete
>
> Roy DeRousse wrote:
> > This is one of the funniest things I've seen in a while:
> >
> > 
> http://io9.com/ 5522168/the- venture-bros- the-key-to- science-is- prog-rock 
> <http://io9.com/ 5522168/the- venture-bros- the-key-to- science-is- prog-rock>
> >
>
>

RE: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-24 by Pomeroy RH Ranch

Didn't Number 2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number 6....?
 
Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?).  I remember the ones that had
speakers planted in them.  $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's.  I believe
Roger Dean even designed one.  Phaaaaar Out!
 
   -Bruce D.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-24 by Chris Dale

Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
The Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange before the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's brother who did all the Yes stage architecture.
Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent weekend course / exhibit I attended.
(His business card is also very interesting!)


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On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch <punchbowl4@earthlink.net>; wrote:

Didn't Number 2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number 6....?
Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?). I remember the ones that had speakers planted in them. $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's. I believe Roger Dean even designed one. Phaaaaar Out!
-Bruce D.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-24 by Bruce Daily

Thanks Chris-
   I had to retrieve my copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and re-live a bit of the '70s.  Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger's pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134.  Pages of house designs followed that.  Mind-bending!
   Then there were his amazing watercolor posters....
 
   Hey, did he have any thoughts on the Mellotron?
 
   -Bruce D.


--- On Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com> wrote:
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From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM


  




Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair. 
 
The Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
 
The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange before the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's brother who did all the Yes stage architecture.
 
Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent weekend course / exhibit I attended.
 
(His business card is also very interesting! )
 
 


On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch <punchbowl4@earthlin k.net> wrote:


  




Didn't Number 2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number 6....?

 
Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?).  I remember the ones that had speakers planted in them.  $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's.  I believe Roger Dean even designed one.  Phaaaaar Out!
 
   -Bruce D.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-26 by Chris Dale

A little bit. He knew of it's distinctive sound and it's importance in the music alongside other things. He was also really surprised at the efforts involved in fixing the Wakeman Tron. He doesn't remember anything about it's reliability on stage, but they did have to know the specific size of the keyboards and more importantly the space needed around them to build the stage set designs.
This was for the coloured pipe columns that emanated from Rick's side of the stage and the canopy over Alan White's drums.
They were the first designs were for the Topograhic Oceans tour. He said a lot more work went into it than most can appreciate.

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On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> wrote:

Thanks Chris-
I had to retrieve my copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and re-live a bit of the '70s. Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger9;s pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134. Pages of house designs followed that. Mind-bending!
Then there were his amazing watercolor posters....
Hey, did he have any thoughts on the Mellotron?
-Bruce D.


--- On Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM

Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
The Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange before the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's brother who did all the Yes stage architecture.
Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent weekend course / exhibit I attended.
(His business card is also very interesting! )


On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch <punchbowl4@earthlin k.net> wrote:
Didn't Number 2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number 6....?
Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?). I remember the ones that had speakers planted in them. $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's. I believe Roger Dean even designed one. Phaaaaar Out!
-Bruce D.


Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-26 by ClayE

Just seeing the words "Topographic Oceans" sends me into a state of profound, soul-destroying boredom.  Topographic Oceans requires extraordinary patience / endurance that I will never have.


--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...> wrote:
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>
> A little bit. He knew of it's distinctive sound and it's importance in the
> music alongside other things. He was also really surprised at the efforts
> involved in fixing the Wakeman Tron. He doesn't remember anything about it's
> reliability on stage, but they did have to know the specific size of the
> keyboards and more importantly the space needed around them to build the
> stage set designs.
> This was for the coloured pipe columns that emanated from Rick's side of the
> stage and the canopy over Alan White's drums.
> They were the first designs were for the Topograhic Oceans tour. He said a
> lot more work went into it than most can appreciate.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >   Thanks Chris-
> >    I had to retrieve my copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and
> > re-live a bit of the '70s.  Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger's
> > pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134.  Pages of house designs followed
> > that.  Mind-bending!
> >    Then there were his amazing watercolor posters....
> >
> >    Hey, did he have any thoughts on the Mellotron?
> >
> >    -Bruce D.
> >
> >
> > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...>* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The
> > Venture Bros)
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM
> >
> >
> >  Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
> >
> > The Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
> >
> > The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange before
> > the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's brother who did
> > all the Yes stage architecture.
> >
> > Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent weekend course /
> > exhibit I attended.
> >
> > (His business card is also very interesting! )
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch <punchbowl4@earthlin
> > k.net<http://us.mc636.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=punchbowl4@...>
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>   Didn't Number 2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number
> >> 6....?
> >>
> >> Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?).  I remember the ones that had
> >> speakers planted in them.  $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's.  I believe
> >> Roger Dean even designed one.  Phaaaaar Out!
> >>
> >>    -Bruce D.
> >>
> >
> >
> > 
> >
>

"Rear Window"

2010-04-26 by Tom Doncourt



Watching the delivery of Mattias\u2019 Chamberlin,I figured I\u2019d relate part of my experience with receiving the M1
Funny, I have these nosy neighbors\u2014 The back of their house looks out into my yard and workshop. I\u2019m certain they already think I\u2019m nuts. They saw a big wooden box ( the empty Chamberlin case) wheel off into the garage. Shortly after that they heard the table saw running.(I began building a stand) Maxine has been busy in the city and not out at the house in weeks. If this sounds like a scene from Hitchcock\u2019s \u201cRear Window\u201d well.... That\u2019s what my neighbor thought too! Maxine received a call on her cell from them after never having spoken more than a few words since they moved in. \u201cWe\u2019re so glad to hear your voice,we thought you might be dead!!\u201d.Must have been a little disappointing for them. Well at least we know someone is watching out for us!!!

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-26 by tony1

To each their own. I find "Topographic Oceans" delightfully intense.
Concentration rather than endurance or patience fits me.
You, Clay make it sound like a visit to the dentist.
Close to the Edge is the only Yes album that I like better.
Tony1
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From: ClayE
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:02 AM
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

Just seeing the words "Topographic Oceans" sends me into a state of profound, soul-destroying boredom. Topographic Oceans requires extraordinary patience / endurance that I will never have.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Chris Dale ...> wrote:
>
> A little bit. He knew of it's distinctive sound and it's importance in the
> music alongside other things. He was also really surprised at the efforts
> involved in fixing the Wakeman Tron. He doesn't remember anything about it's
> reliability on stage, but they did have to know the specific size of the
> keyboards and more importantly the space needed around them to build the
> stage set designs.
> This was for the coloured pipe columns that emanated from Rick's side of the
> stage and the canopy over Alan White's drums.
> They were the first designs were for the Topograhic Oceans tour. He said a
> lot more work went into it than most can appreciate.
>
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Bruce Daily .> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks Chris-
> > I had to retrieve my copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and
> > re-live a bit of the '70s. Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger's
> > pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134. Pages of house designs followed
> > that. Mind-bending!
> > Then there were his amazing watercolor posters....
> >
> > Hey, did he have any thoughts on the Mellotron?
> >
> > -Bruce D.
> >
> >
> > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale ...>* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Chris Dale ...>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The
> > Venture Bros)
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM
> >
> >
> > Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
> >
> > The Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
> >
> > The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange before
> > the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's brother who did
> > all the Yes stage architecture.
> >
> > Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent weekend course /
> > exhibit I attended.
> >
> > (His business card is also very interesting! )
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch earthlin
> > k.net<http://us.mc636.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=punchbowl4@...>
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Didn't Number 2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number
> >> 6....?
> >>
> >> Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?). I remember the ones that had
> >> speakers planted in them. $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's. I believe
> >> Roger Dean even designed one. Phaaaaar Out!
> >>
> >> -Bruce D.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-26 by Bruce Daily

Thanks Chris-
  The Topographic stage setup was also noted in the book.  Moving parts, very complex.  I believe they devoted nearly all of the tour to playing "Topographic" at the time, which would've been tough on the audiences.  I saw the following Relayer tour (with Moraz).  It had a similar stage, but the only "Topographic" piece played was "Ritual".
   I liked "Topographic" on record.  Long, sweeping aural vistas, the stuff of headphones.  The only thing that bugged me was the compressed nature of the mix.
   Roger Dean and Yes are forever stuck with each other.
 
   -Bruce D.


--- On Mon, 4/26/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:


From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 8:02 AM


  



Just seeing the words "Topographic Oceans" sends me into a state of profound, soul-destroying boredom. Topographic Oceans requires extraordinary patience / endurance that I will never have.

--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@ ...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> A little bit. He knew of it's distinctive sound and it's importance in the
> music alongside other things. He was also really surprised at the efforts
> involved in fixing the Wakeman Tron. He doesn't remember anything about it's
> reliability on stage, but they did have to know the specific size of the
> keyboards and more importantly the space needed around them to build the
> stage set designs.
> This was for the coloured pipe columns that emanated from Rick's side of the
> stage and the canopy over Alan White's drums.
> They were the first designs were for the Topograhic Oceans tour. He said a
> lot more work went into it than most can appreciate.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@.. .> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Thanks Chris-
> > I had to retrieve my copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and
> > re-live a bit of the '70s. Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger's
> > pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134. Pages of house designs followed
> > that. Mind-bending!
> > Then there were his amazing watercolor posters....
> >
> > Hey, did he have any thoughts on the Mellotron?
> >
> > -Bruce D.
> >
> >
> > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@ ...>* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@ ...>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The
> > Venture Bros)
> > To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM
> >
> >
> > Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
> >
> > The Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
> >
> > The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange before
> > the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's brother who did
> > all the Yes stage architecture.
> >
> > Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent weekend course /
> > exhibit I attended.
> >
> > (His business card is also very interesting! )
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch <punchbowl4@ earthlin
> > k.net<http://us.mc636. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=punchbowl4@ ...>
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Didn't Number 2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number
> >> 6....?
> >>
> >> Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?). I remember the ones that had
> >> speakers planted in them. $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's. I believe
> >> Roger Dean even designed one. Phaaaaar Out!
> >>
> >> -Bruce D.
> >>
> >
> >
> > 
> >
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] "Rear Window"

2010-04-26 by lsf5275@aol.com

What a heart-warming story. I recommend that you surprise them by burning  
their house down. 
 
 
In a message dated 4/26/2010 10:42:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tomdcour@amnh.org writes:

 
 
 



Watching the delivery of Mattias’  Chamberlin,I figured I’d relate part of 
my experience with receiving the M1  

Funny, I have these nosy neighbors— The back of their  house looks out into 
my yard and workshop. I’m certain they already think I’m  nuts. They saw a 
big wooden box ( the empty Chamberlin case) wheel off into  the garage. 
Shortly after that they heard the table saw running.(I began  building a stand) 
Maxine has been busy in the city and not out at the house in  weeks. If 
this sounds like a scene from Hitchcock’s “Rear Window” well....  That’s what 
my neighbor thought too! Maxine received a call on her cell from  them 
after never having spoken more than a few words since they moved in.  “We’re so 
glad to hear your voice,we thought you might be dead!!”.Must have  been a 
little disappointing for them. Well at least we know someone is  watching out 
for us!!!

Re: [newmellotrongroup] "Rear Window"

2010-04-26 by Tom Doncourt


\u201cABNER!!! Mr. Doncourt is headed this way with a torch!!!!\u201d



What a heart-warming story. I recommend that you surprise them by burning their house down.

In a message dated 4/26/2010 10:42:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tomdcour@amnh.org writes:






Watching the delivery of Mattias\u2019 Chamberlin,I figured I\u2019d relate part of my experience with receiving the M1
Funny, I have these nosy neighbors\u2014 The back of their house looks out into my yard and workshop. I\u2019m certain they already think I\u2019m nuts. They saw a big wooden box ( the empty Chamberlin case) wheel off into the garage. Shortly after that they heard the table saw running.(I began building a stand) Maxine has been busy in the city and not out at the house in weeks. If this sounds like a scene from Hitchcock\u2019s \u201cRear Window\u201d well.... That\u2019;s what my neighbor thought too! Maxine received a call on her cell from them after never having spoken more than a few words since they moved in. \u201cWe\u2019re so glad to hear your voice,we thought you might be dead!!\u201d.Must have been a little disappointing for them. Well at least we know someone is watching out for us!!!







Re: [newmellotrongroup] "Rear Window"

2010-04-26 by lsf5275@aol.com

No no... It has to be a surprise or it wouldn't be funny.
 
 
In a message dated 4/26/2010 11:20:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
tomdcour@amnh.org writes:

 
 
 


“ABNER!!! Mr. Doncourt is headed this way  with a torch!!!!”



What a heart-warming story. I  recommend that you surprise them by burning 
their house down.  

In a message dated 4/26/2010 10:42:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight  Time, 
tomdcour@amnh.In a messag








Watching the delivery of  Mattias’  Chamberlin,I figured I’d relate part 
of my experience  with receiving the M1  

Funny, I  have these nosy neighbors— The back of their  house looks out 
into my  yard and workshop. I’m certain they already think I’m  nuts. They saw 
 a big wooden box ( the empty Chamberlin case) wheel off into  the  garage. 
Shortly after that they heard the table saw running.(I began  building a 
stand) Maxine has been busy in the city and not out at  the house in  weeks. 
If this sounds like a scene from Hitchcock’s  “Rear Window” well....  That’
s what my neighbor thought too! Maxine  received a call on her cell from  
them after never having spoken more  than a few words since they moved in.  “We
’re so glad to hear your  voice,we thought you might be dead!!”.Must have  
been a little  disappointing for them. Well at least we know someone is  
watching  out for us!!!

Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-26 by ClayE

A visit to the dentist is a relative pleasure and I never have anesthetic.  It's a good thing the hygienist is hot!

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "tony1" <atm655@...> wrote:
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>
> To each their own. I find "Topographic Oceans" delightfully intense.
> Concentration rather than endurance or patience fits me.
> You, Clay make it sound like a visit to the dentist.
> Close to the Edge is the only Yes album that I like better.
> 
> Tony1
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: ClayE 
>   To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:02 AM
>   Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
> 
> 
>     
>   Just seeing the words "Topographic Oceans" sends me into a state of profound, soul-destroying boredom. Topographic Oceans requires extraordinary patience / endurance that I will never have.
> 
>   --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@> wrote:
>   >
>   > A little bit. He knew of it's distinctive sound and it's importance in the
>   > music alongside other things. He was also really surprised at the efforts
>   > involved in fixing the Wakeman Tron. He doesn't remember anything about it's
>   > reliability on stage, but they did have to know the specific size of the
>   > keyboards and more importantly the space needed around them to build the
>   > stage set designs.
>   > This was for the coloured pipe columns that emanated from Rick's side of the
>   > stage and the canopy over Alan White's drums.
>   > They were the first designs were for the Topograhic Oceans tour. He said a
>   > lot more work went into it than most can appreciate.
>   > 
>   > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@> wrote:
>   > 
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > Thanks Chris-
>   > > I had to retrieve my copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and
>   > > re-live a bit of the '70s. Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger's
>   > > pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134. Pages of house designs followed
>   > > that. Mind-bending!
>   > > Then there were his amazing watercolor posters....
>   > >
>   > > Hey, did he have any thoughts on the Mellotron?
>   > >
>   > > -Bruce D.
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@>* wrote:
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@>
>   > >
>   > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The
>   > > Venture Bros)
>   > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>   > > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
>   > >
>   > > The Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
>   > >
>   > > The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange before
>   > > the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's brother who did
>   > > all the Yes stage architecture.
>   > >
>   > > Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent weekend course /
>   > > exhibit I attended.
>   > >
>   > > (His business card is also very interesting! )
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch <punchbowl4@earthlin
>   > > k.net<http://us.mc636.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=punchbowl4@>
>   > > > wrote:
>   > >
>   > >>
>   > >> Didn't Number 2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number
>   > >> 6....?
>   > >>
>   > >> Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?). I remember the ones that had
>   > >> speakers planted in them. $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's. I believe
>   > >> Roger Dean even designed one. Phaaaaar Out!
>   > >>
>   > >> -Bruce D.
>   > >>
>   > >
>   > >
>   > > 
>   > >
>   >
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-26 by fdoddy@aol.com

Tony and I disagree on a lot, but I am also in the minority here.  I like Tales too.  If you listen through the drugs, there is some angst in there.

Close to the Edge goes to the desert island with me!

fritz

 


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: tony1 <atm655@verizon.net>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 11:01 am
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)


  
    
                  

To each their own. I find "Topographic Oceans" delightfully intense.
Concentration rather than endurance or patience fits me.
You, Clay make it sound like a visit to the dentist.
Close to the Edge is the only Yes album that I like better.
 
Tony1
 
  
----- Original Message ----- 
  
From:   ClayE 
  
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com   
  
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:02   AM
  
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key   to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
  


    
  
Just seeing the words "Topographic Oceans" sends me into a state of   profound, soul-destroying boredom. Topographic Oceans requires extraordinary   patience / endurance that I will never have.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com,   Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> A little   bit. He knew of it's distinctive sound and it's importance in the
>   music alongside other things. He was also really surprised at the   efforts
> involved in fixing the Wakeman Tron. He doesn't remember   anything about it's
> reliability on stage, but they did have to know   the specific size of the
> keyboards and more importantly the space   needed around them to build the
> stage set designs.
> This was   for the coloured pipe columns that emanated from Rick's side of the
>   stage and the canopy over Alan White's drums.
> They were the first   designs were for the Topograhic Oceans tour. He said a
> lot more work   went into it than most can appreciate.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010   at 2:31 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...> wrote:
> 
>   >
> >
> > Thanks Chris-
> > I had to retrieve my   copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and
> > re-live a bit   of the '70s. Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger's
> >   pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134. Pages of house designs   followed
> > that. Mind-bending!
> > Then there were his   amazing watercolor posters....
> >
> > Hey, did he have any   thoughts on the Mellotron?
> >
> > -Bruce D.
>   >
> >
> > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale   <unobtainiumkeys@...>* wrote:
> >
> >
>   > From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...>
> >
>   > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock   (The
> > Venture Bros)
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>   > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM
> >
> >
>   > Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
> >
> > The   Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
> >
> >   The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange   before
> > the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's   brother who did
> > all the Yes stage architecture.
>   >
> > Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent   weekend course /
> > exhibit I attended.
> >
> >   (His business card is also very interesting! )
> >
>   >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH   Ranch <punchbowl4@earthlin
> > k.net<http://us.mc636.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=punchbowl4@...>
>   > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Didn't Number   2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number
> >>   6....?
> >>
> >> Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with   windows?). I remember the ones that had
> >> speakers planted in   them. $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's. I believe
> >> Roger   Dean even designed one. Phaaaaar Out!
> >>
> >> -Bruce   D.
> >>
> >
> >
> > 
>   >
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by tony1

Couldn't agree more Fritz, Tales has some tentsion but I like dark music anyway, but "Close to the Edge" is magic.
I think having seen "Tales" live might be why it worls better for me, or at least is more comfortable.
Tony
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

Tony and I disagree on a lot, but I am also in the minority here. I like Tales too. If you listen through the drugs, there is some angst in there.

Close to the Edge goes to the desert island with me!

fritz



-----Original Message-----
From: tony1 <atm655@verizon.net>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 11:01 am
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

To each their own. I find "Topographic Oceans" delightfully intense.
Concentration rather than endurance or patience fits me.
You, Clay make it sound like a visit to the dentist.
Close to the Edge is the only Yes album that I like better.
Tony1
----- Original Message -----
From: ClayE
Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:02 AM
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

Just seeing the words "Topographic Oceans" sends me into a state of profound, soul-destroying boredom. Topographic Oceans requires extraordinary patience / endurance that I will never have.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Chris Dale ...> wrote:
>
>; A little bit. He knew of it's distinctive sound and it's importance in the
> music alongside other things. He was also really surprised at the efforts
> involved in fixing the Wakeman Tron. He doesn't remember anything about it's
> reliability on stage, but they did have to know the specific size of the
> keyboards and more importantly the space needed around them to build the
> stage set designs.
> This was for the coloured pipe columns that emanated from Rick's side of the
> stage and the canopy over Alan White's drums.
> They were the first designs were for the Topograhic Oceans tour. He said a
> lot more work went into it than most can appreciate.
>
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Bruce Daily .> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks Chris-
> > I had to retrieve my copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and
> > re-live a bit of the '70s. Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger's
> > pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134. Pages of house designs followed
> > that. Mind-bending!
> > Then there were his amazing watercolor posters....
> >
> > Hey, did he have any thoughts on the Mellotron?
> >
> > -Bruce D.
> >
> >
> > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale ...>* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Chris Dale ...>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The
> > Venture Bros)
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM
> >
> >
> > Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
> >
> > The Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
> >
> > The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange before
> > the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's brother who did
> > all the Yes stage architecture.
> >;
> > Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent weekend course /
> > exhibit I attended.
> >
> > (His business card is also very interesting! )
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch earthlin
> > k.net<http://us.mc636.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=punchbowl4@...>
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Didn't Number 2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number
> >> 6....?
> >>
> >> Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?). I remember the ones that had
> >> speakers planted in them. $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's. I believe
> >> Roger Dean even designed one. Phaaaaar Out!
> >>
> >>; -Bruce D.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by ClayE

You guys must be forgetting about Tormato, Drama and 90210 ! 

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@... wrote:
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>
> 
>  Tony and I disagree on a lot, but I am also in the minority here.  I like Tales too.  If you listen through the drugs, there is some angst in there.
> 
> Close to the Edge goes to the desert island with me!
> 
> fritz
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tony1 <atm655@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 11:01 am
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
> 
> 
>   
>     
>                   
> 
> To each their own. I find "Topographic Oceans" delightfully intense.
> Concentration rather than endurance or patience fits me.
> You, Clay make it sound like a visit to the dentist.
> Close to the Edge is the only Yes album that I like better.
>  
> Tony1
>  
>   
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>   
> From:   ClayE 
>   
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com   
>   
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:02   AM
>   
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key   to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
>   
> 
> 
>     
>   
> Just seeing the words "Topographic Oceans" sends me into a state of   profound, soul-destroying boredom. Topographic Oceans requires extraordinary   patience / endurance that I will never have.
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com,   Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@> wrote:
> >
> > A little   bit. He knew of it's distinctive sound and it's importance in the
> >   music alongside other things. He was also really surprised at the   efforts
> > involved in fixing the Wakeman Tron. He doesn't remember   anything about it's
> > reliability on stage, but they did have to know   the specific size of the
> > keyboards and more importantly the space   needed around them to build the
> > stage set designs.
> > This was   for the coloured pipe columns that emanated from Rick's side of the
> >   stage and the canopy over Alan White's drums.
> > They were the first   designs were for the Topograhic Oceans tour. He said a
> > lot more work   went into it than most can appreciate.
> > 
> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010   at 2:31 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@> wrote:
> > 
> >   >
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris-
> > > I had to retrieve my   copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and
> > > re-live a bit   of the '70s. Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger's
> > >   pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134. Pages of house designs   followed
> > > that. Mind-bending!
> > > Then there were his   amazing watercolor posters....
> > >
> > > Hey, did he have any   thoughts on the Mellotron?
> > >
> > > -Bruce D.
> >   >
> > >
> > > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale   <unobtainiumkeys@>* wrote:
> > >
> > >
> >   > From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@>
> > >
> >   > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock   (The
> > > Venture Bros)
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >   > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM
> > >
> > >
> >   > Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
> > >
> > > The   Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
> > >
> > >   The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange   before
> > > the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's   brother who did
> > > all the Yes stage architecture.
> >   >
> > > Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent   weekend course /
> > > exhibit I attended.
> > >
> > >   (His business card is also very interesting! )
> > >
> >   >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH   Ranch <punchbowl4@earthlin
> > > k.net<http://us.mc636.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=punchbowl4@>
> >   > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Didn't Number   2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number
> > >>   6....?
> > >>
> > >> Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with   windows?). I remember the ones that had
> > >> speakers planted in   them. $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's. I believe
> > >> Roger   Dean even designed one. Phaaaaar Out!
> > >>
> > >> -Bruce   D.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> >   >
> >
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by Bruce Daily

I'll take "Tales", "Fragile", "Relayer", and "Close to the Edge" to that isle with me.
 
   Damn, I sense another list thread forming again....
 
  -Bruce D.


--- On Mon, 4/26/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:


From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 7:33 PM


  



You guys must be forgetting about Tormato, Drama and 90210 ! 

--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, fdoddy@... wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
> 
> Tony and I disagree on a lot, but I am also in the minority here. I like Tales too. If you listen through the drugs, there is some angst in there.
> 
> Close to the Edge goes to the desert island with me!
> 
> fritz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tony1 <atm655@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 11:01 am
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To each their own. I find "Topographic Oceans" delightfully intense.
> Concentration rather than endurance or patience fits me.
> You, Clay make it sound like a visit to the dentist.
> Close to the Edge is the only Yes album that I like better.
> 
> Tony1
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: ClayE 
> 
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com 
> 
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:02 AM
> 
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Just seeing the words "Topographic Oceans" sends me into a state of profound, soul-destroying boredom. Topographic Oceans requires extraordinary patience / endurance that I will never have.
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@ > wrote:
> >
> > A little bit. He knew of it's distinctive sound and it's importance in the
> > music alongside other things. He was also really surprised at the efforts
> > involved in fixing the Wakeman Tron. He doesn't remember anything about it's
> > reliability on stage, but they did have to know the specific size of the
> > keyboards and more importantly the space needed around them to build the
> > stage set designs.
> > This was for the coloured pipe columns that emanated from Rick's side of the
> > stage and the canopy over Alan White's drums.
> > They were the first designs were for the Topograhic Oceans tour. He said a
> > lot more work went into it than most can appreciate.
> > 
> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris-
> > > I had to retrieve my copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and
> > > re-live a bit of the '70s. Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger's
> > > pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134. Pages of house designs followed
> > > that. Mind-bending!
> > > Then there were his amazing watercolor posters....
> > >
> > > Hey, did he have any thoughts on the Mellotron?
> > >
> > > -Bruce D.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@ >* wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@ >
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The
> > > Venture Bros)
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
> > >
> > > The Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
> > >
> > > The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange before
> > > the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's brother who did
> > > all the Yes stage architecture.
> > >
> > > Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent weekend course /
> > > exhibit I attended.
> > >
> > > (His business card is also very interesting! )
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch <punchbowl4@ earthlin
> > > k.net<http://us.mc636. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=punchbowl4@>
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Didn't Number 2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number
> > >> 6....?
> > >>
> > >> Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?). I remember the ones that had
> > >> speakers planted in them. $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's. I believe
> > >> Roger Dean even designed one. Phaaaaar Out!
> > >>
> > >> -Bruce D.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> >
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by James Parthun

...happens every couple of years. The dreaded I hate/ love Yes thread....

Me? I'm a fan of all things Yes just because.

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> wrote:

I'll take "Tales", "Fragile", "Relayer", and "Close to the Edge" to that isle with me.
Damn, I sense another list thread forming again....
-Bruce D.


--- On Mon, 4/26/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:

From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 7:33 PM

You guys must be forgetting about Tormato, Drama and 90210 !

--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, fdoddy@... wrote:
>
>
> Tony and I disagree on a lot, but I am also in the minority here. I like Tales too. If you listen through the drugs, there is some angst in there.
>
> Close to the Edge goes to the desert island with me!
>
> fritz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tony1
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 11:01 am
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To each their own. I find "Topographic Oceans" delightfully intense.
> Concentration rather than endurance or patience fits me.
> You, Clay make it sound like a visit to the dentist.
> Close to the Edge is the only Yes album that I like better.
>
> Tony1
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: ClayE
>
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
>
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:02 AM
>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
>
>
>
>
>
> Just seeing the words "Topographic Oceans" sends me into a state of profound, soul-destroying boredom. Topographic Oceans requires extraordinary patience / endurance that I will never have.
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, Chris Dale wrote:
> >
> > A little bit. He knew of it's distinctive sound and it's importance in the
> > music alongside other things. He was also really surprised at the efforts
> > involved in fixing the Wakeman Tron. He doesn't remember anything about it's
> > reliability on stage, but they did have to know the specific size of the
> > keyboards and more importantly the space needed around them to build the
> > stage set designs.
> > This was for the coloured pipe columns that emanated from Rick's side of the
> > stage and the canopy over Alan White's drums.
> > They were the first designs were for the Topograhic Oceans tour. He said a
> > lot more work went into it than most can appreciate.
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Bruce Daily > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris-
> > > I had to retrieve my copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and
> > > re-live a bit of the '70s. Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger9;s
> > > pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134. Pages of house designs followed
> > > that. Mind-bending!
> > > Then there were his amazing watercolor posters....
> > >
> > > Hey, did he have any thoughts on the Mellotron?
> > >
> > > -Bruce D.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale * wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Chris Dale
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The
> > > Venture Bros)
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
> > >
> > > The Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
> > >
> > > The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange before
> > > the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's brother who did
> > > all the Yes stage architecture.
> > >
> > > Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent weekend course /
> > > exhibit I attended.
> > >
> > > (His business card is also very interesting! )
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch > > > k.net<http://us.mc636. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=punchbowl4@>
>; > > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> >; >> Didn't Number 2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number
> > >> 6....?
> > >>
> > >> Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?). I remember the ones that had
> > >> speakers planted in them. $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's. I believe
> > >> Roger Dean even designed one. Phaaaaar Out!
> > >>
> > >>; -Bruce D.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>





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Re: [newmellotrongroup] "Rear Window"

2010-04-27 by Chris Dale

I have an industrial strength gas laser you can borrow for free if you aim it into their window!


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On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:23 AM, <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:

No no... It has to be a surprise or it wouldn't be funny.
In a message dated 4/26/2010 11:20:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tomdcour@amnh.org writes:


“ABNER!!! Mr. Doncourt is headed this way with a torch!!!!”



What a heart-warming story. I recommend that you surprise them by burning their house down.

In a message dated 4/26/2010 10:42:22 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tomdcour@amnh.org writes:






Watching the delivery of Mattias’ Chamberlin,I figured I’d relate part of my experience with receiving the M1
Funny, I have these nosy neighbors— The back of their house looks out into my yard and workshop. I’m certain they already think I’m nuts. They saw a big wooden box ( the empty Chamberlin case) wheel off into the garage. Shortly after that they heard the table saw running.(I began building a stand) Maxine has been busy in the city and not out at the house in weeks. If this sounds like a scene from Hitchcock’s “Rear Window” well.... That’s what my neighbor thought too! Maxine received a call on her cell from them after never having spoken more than a few words since they moved in. “We’re so glad to hear your voice,we thought you might be dead!!”.Must have been a little disappointing for them. Well at least we know someone is watching out for us!!!







Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by Chris Dale

Yeah, I agree.
Topographic Oceans is a demanding listen. I could never really get into it 100% until recently. Now I appreciate it so much more.
I had to listen to each piece of music at different times though. If I do that then I always enjoy it, but the whole thing all at once sometimes is a bit much, and the subtleties can easily get lost.
It really depends on what mood you're in I think.


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On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> wrote:

Thanks Chris-
The Topographic stage setup was also noted in the book. Moving parts, very complex. I believe they devoted nearly all of the tour to playing "Topographic" at the time, which would've been tough on the audiences. I saw the following Relayer tour (with Moraz). It had a similar stage, but the only "Topographic" piece played was "Ritual".
I liked "Topographic" on record. Long, sweeping aural vistas, the stuff of headphones. The only thing that bugged me was the compressed nature of the mix.
Roger Dean and Yes are forever stuck with each other.
-Bruce D.


--- On Mon, 4/26/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:

From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 8:02 AM


Just seeing the words "Topographic Oceans" sends me into a state of profound, soul-destroying boredom. Topographic Oceans requires extraordinary patience / endurance that I will never have.

--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, Chris Dale wrote:
>
> A little bit. He knew of it's distinctive sound and it's importance in the
> music alongside other things. He was also really surprised at the efforts
> involved in fixing the Wakeman Tron. He doesn't remember anything about it's
> reliability on stage, but they did have to know the specific size of the
> keyboards and more importantly the space needed around them to build the
> stage set designs.
> This was for the coloured pipe columns that emanated from Rick's side of the
> stage and the canopy over Alan White's drums.
> They were the first designs were for the Topograhic Oceans tour. He said a
> lot more work went into it than most can appreciate.
>
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Bruce Daily wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks Chris-
> > I had to retrieve my copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and
> > re-live a bit of the '70s. Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger9;s
> > pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134. Pages of house designs followed
> > that. Mind-bending!
> > Then there were his amazing watercolor posters....
> >
> > Hey, did he have any thoughts on the Mellotron?
> >
> > -Bruce D.
> >
> >
> > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@ ...>* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Chris Dale
> >
> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The
> > Venture Bros)
> > To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM
> >
> >
> > Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
> >
> > The Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
> >
> > The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange before
> > the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's brother who did
> > all the Yes stage architecture.
> >
> > Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent weekend course /
> > exhibit I attended.
> >
> > (His business card is also very interesting! )
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch > > k.net<http://us.mc636. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=punchbowl4@ ...>
> > > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Didn't Number 2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number
> >> 6....?
> >>
> >> Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?). I remember the ones that had
> >> speakers planted in them. $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's. I believe
> >> Roger Dean even designed one. Phaaaaar Out!
> >>
> >> -Bruce D.
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by Chris Dale

90210!!:)
I guess Tormato and Drama can be grouped together, but I see 90125 as a completely different animal.


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On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:33 PM, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:

You guys must be forgetting about Tormato, Drama and 90210 !


--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@... wrote:
>
>
> Tony and I disagree on a lot, but I am also in the minority here. I like Tales too. If you listen through the drugs, there is some angst in there.
>
> Close to the Edge goes to the desert island with me!
>
> fritz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tony1
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 11:01 am
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To each their own. I find "Topographic Oceans" delightfully intense.
> Concentration rather than endurance or patience fits me.
> You, Clay make it sound like a visit to the dentist.
> Close to the Edge is the only Yes album that I like better.
>
> Tony1
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: ClayE
>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:02 AM
>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
>
>
>
>
>
> Just seeing the words "Topographic Oceans" sends me into a state of profound, soul-destroying boredom. Topographic Oceans requires extraordinary patience / endurance that I will never have.
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Chris Dale wrote:
> >
> > A little bit. He knew of it's distinctive sound and it's importance in the
> > music alongside other things. He was also really surprised at the efforts
> > involved in fixing the Wakeman Tron. He doesn't remember anything about it's
> > reliability on stage, but they did have to know the specific size of the
> > keyboards and more importantly the space needed around them to build the
> > stage set designs.
> > This was for the coloured pipe columns that emanated from Rick's side of the
> > stage and the canopy over Alan White's drums.
> > They were the first designs were for the Topograhic Oceans tour. He said a
> > lot more work went into it than most can appreciate.
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Bruce Daily wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris-
> > > I had to retrieve my copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and
> > > re-live a bit of the '70s. Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger's
>; > > pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134. Pages of house designs followed
> > > that. Mind-bending!
> > > Then there were his amazing watercolor posters....
> > >
> > > Hey, did he have any thoughts on the Mellotron?
> > >
> > > -Bruce D.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale * wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Chris Dale
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The
> > > Venture Bros)
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
> > >
> > > The Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
> > >
> > > The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange before
> > > the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's brother who did
> > > all the Yes stage architecture.
> > >
> > >; Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent weekend course /
> > > exhibit I attended.
> > >
> > > (His business card is also very interesting! )
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch > > > k.net<http://us.mc636.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=punchbowl4@>
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Didn9;t Number 2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number
> > >> 6....?
> > >>
> > >> Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?). I remember the ones that had
> > >> speakers planted in them. $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's. I believe
> > >> Roger Dean even designed one. Phaaaaar Out!
> > >>
> > >> -Bruce D.
>; > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by mattias

I always had issues with the drumsolo on a kitchen table part.

Close to the edge always felt so great because it was musically efficient, logical and to the point...and then they gave us topographic oceans.

As a drummer I have always had problems with Alan White in comparison to Bill Bruford.

// Mattias

Den 2010-04-27 07.54, skrev "Chris Dale" :

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Yeah, I agree.


Topographic Oceans is a demanding listen. I could never really get into it 100% until recently. Now I appreciate it so much more.

I had to listen to each piece of music at different times though. If I do that then I always enjoy it, but the whole thing all at once sometimes is a bit much, and the subtleties can easily get lost.

It really depends on what mood you're in I think.





On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Bruce Daily wrote:

Thanks Chris-
The Topographic stage setup was also noted in the book. Moving parts, very complex. I believe they devoted nearly all of the tour to playing "Topographic" at the time, which would've been tough on the audiences. I saw the following Relayer tour (with Moraz). It had a similar stage, but the only "Topographic" piece played was "Ritual".
I liked "Topographic" on record. Long, sweeping aural vistas, the stuff of headphones. The only thing that bugged me was the compressed nature of the mix.
Roger Dean and Yes are forever stuck with each other.

-Bruce D.


--- On Mon, 4/26/10, ClayE wrote:

From: ClayE
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 8:02 AM


Just seeing the words "Topographic Oceans" sends me into a state of profound, soul-destroying boredom. Topographic Oceans requires extraordinary patience / endurance that I will never have.

--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com ; , Chris Dale wrote:
>
> A little bit. He knew of it's distinctive sound and it's importance in the
> music alongside other things. He was also really surprised at the efforts
> involved in fixing the Wakeman Tron. He doesn't remember anything about it's
> reliability on stage, but they did have to know the specific size of the
> keyboards and more importantly the space needed around them to build the
> stage set designs.
> This was for the coloured pipe columns that emanated from Rick's side of the
> stage and the canopy over Alan White's drums.
> They were the first designs were for the Topograhic Oceans tour. He said a
> lot more work went into it than most can appreciate.
>
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Bruce Daily wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Thanks Chris-
> > I had to retrieve my copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and
> > re-live a bit of the '70s. Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger's
> > pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134. Pages of house designs followed
> > that. Mind-bending!
> > Then there were his amazing watercolor posters....
> >
> > Hey, did he have any thoughts on the Mellotron?
> >
> > -Bruce D.
> >
> >
> > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale * wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Chris Dale
> >
> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The
> > Venture Bros)
> > To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM
> >
> >
> > Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
> >
> > The Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
> >
> > The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange before
> > the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's brother who did
> > all the Yes stage architecture.
> >
> > Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent weekend course /
> > exhibit I attended.
> >
> > (His business card is also very interesting! )
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch > > k.net >
> > > wrote:
> >
>; >>
> >> Didn't Number 2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number
> >> 6....?
> >>
> >> Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?). I remember the ones that had
> >> speakers planted in them. $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's. I believe
> >> Roger Dean even designed one. Phaaaaar Out!
> >>
> >> -Bruce D.
> >;>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>







Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by mattias

I got my first Asia tattoo while listening to 901250 !


Den 2010-04-27 07.58, skrev "Chris Dale" :

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90210!!:)

I guess Tormato and Drama can be grouped together, but I see 90125 as a completely different animal.





On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:33 PM, ClayE wrote:

You guys must be forgetting about Tormato, Drama and 90210 !

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com , fdoddy@... wrote:
>
>
> Tony and I disagree on a lot, but I am also in the minority here. I like Tales too. If you listen through the drugs, there is some angst in there.
>
> Close to the Edge goes to the desert island with me!
>
> fritz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tony1
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 11:01 am
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To each their own. I find "Topographic Oceans" delightfully intense.
> Concentration rather than endurance or patience fits me.
> You, Clay make it sound like a visit to the dentist.
> Close to the Edge is the only Yes album that I like better.
>
> Tony1
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: ClayE
>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:02 AM
>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
>
>
>
>
>
> Just seeing the words "Topographic Oceans" sends me into a state of profound, soul-destroying boredom. Topographic Oceans requires extraordinary patience / endurance that I will never have.
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
, Chris Dale wrote:
> >
> >; A little bit. He knew of it's distinctive sound and it's importance in the
> > music alongside other things. He was also really surprised at the efforts
> > involved in fixing the Wakeman Tron. He doesn't remember anything about it's
> > reliability on stage, but they did have to know the specific size of the
> > keyboards and more importantly the space needed around them to build the
> > stage set designs.
> > This was for the coloured pipe columns that emanated from Rick's side of the
> > stage and the canopy over Alan White's drums.
> > They were the first designs were for the Topograhic Oceans tour. He said a
> > lot more work went into it than most can appreciate.
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Bruce Daily wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris-
> > > I had to retrieve my copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and
> > > re-live a bit of the '70s. Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger's
> > > pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134. Pages of house designs followed
> > > that. Mind-bending!
> > > Then there were his amazing watercolor posters....
> > >
> > > Hey, did he have any thoughts on the Mellotron?
> > >
> > > -Bruce D.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale * wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Chris Dale
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The
> > > Venture Bros)
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
> > >
> > > The Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
> > >
> > > The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange before
> > > the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's brother who did
> > > all the Yes stage architecture.
> > >
> > > Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent weekend course /
> > > exhibit I attended.
> > >
> > > (His business card is also very interesting! )
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch > > > k.net
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>; Didn't Number 2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number
> > >> 6....?
> > >>
> > >> Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?). I remember the ones that had
> > >> speakers planted in them. $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's. I believe
> > >> Roger Dean even designed one. Phaaaaar Out!
> > >>
> > >> -Bruce D.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>







Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by fdoddy@aol.com

I thought Tormato was a joke, 90210 was pablum and Drama was AA baseball.

fritz

 


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 9:33 pm
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)


  
    
                  
You guys must be forgetting about Tormato, Drama and 90210 ! 

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@... wrote:
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>
> 
>  Tony and I disagree on a lot, but I am also in the minority here.  I like Tales too.  If you listen through the drugs, there is some angst in there.
> 
> Close to the Edge goes to the desert island with me!
> 
> fritz
> 
>  
> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tony1 <atm655@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 11:01 am
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
> 
> 
>   
>     
>                   
> 
> To each their own. I find "Topographic Oceans" delightfully intense.
> Concentration rather than endurance or patience fits me.
> You, Clay make it sound like a visit to the dentist.
> Close to the Edge is the only Yes album that I like better.
>  
> Tony1
>  
>   
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>   
> From:   ClayE 
>   
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com   
>   
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:02   AM
>   
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key   to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
>   
> 
> 
>     
>   
> Just seeing the words "Topographic Oceans" sends me into a state of   profound, soul-destroying boredom. Topographic Oceans requires extraordinary   patience / endurance that I will never have.
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com,   Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@> wrote:
> >
> > A little   bit. He knew of it's distinctive sound and it's importance in the
> >   music alongside other things. He was also really surprised at the   efforts
> > involved in fixing the Wakeman Tron. He doesn't remember   anything about it's
> > reliability on stage, but they did have to know   the specific size of the
> > keyboards and more importantly the space   needed around them to build the
> > stage set designs.
> > This was   for the coloured pipe columns that emanated from Rick's side of the
> >   stage and the canopy over Alan White's drums.
> > They were the first   designs were for the Topograhic Oceans tour. He said a
> > lot more work   went into it than most can appreciate.
> > 
> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010   at 2:31 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@> wrote:
> > 
> >   >
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris-
> > > I had to retrieve my   copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and
> > > re-live a bit   of the '70s. Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger's
> > >   pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134. Pages of house designs   followed
> > > that. Mind-bending!
> > > Then there were his   amazing watercolor posters....
> > >
> > > Hey, did he have any   thoughts on the Mellotron?
> > >
> > > -Bruce D.
> >   >
> > >
> > > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale   <unobtainiumkeys@>* wrote:
> > >
> > >
> >   > From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@>
> > >
> >   > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock   (The
> > > Venture Bros)
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >   > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM
> > >
> > >
> >   > Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
> > >
> > > The   Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
> > >
> > >   The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange   before
> > > the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's   brother who did
> > > all the Yes stage architecture.
> >   >
> > > Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent   weekend course /
> > > exhibit I attended.
> > >
> > >   (His business card is also very interesting! )
> > >
> >   >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH   Ranch <punchbowl4@earthlin
> > > k.net<http://us.mc636.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=punchbowl4@>
> >   > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Didn't Number   2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number
> > >>   6....?
> > >>
> > >> Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with   windows?). I remember the ones that had
> > >> speakers planted in   them. $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's. I believe
> > >> Roger   Dean even designed one. Phaaaaar Out!
> > >>
> > >> -Bruce   D.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> >   >
> >
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by fdoddy@aol.com

Is there a Fragile re-master that actually sounds good?  I've always thought the vinyl was some of the best sounding rock production out there, but every digital version I've heard sounded flat and distorted.


fritz
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 11:45 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)


  
    
                  


   I'll take "Tales", "Fragile", "Relayer", and "Close to the Edge" to that isle with me.
 
   Damn, I sense another list thread forming again....
 
  -Bruce D.


--- On Mon, 4/26/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:


From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 7:33 PM


  
You guys must be forgetting about Tormato, Drama and 90210 ! 

--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, fdoddy@... wrote:
>
> 
> Tony and I disagree on a lot, but I am also in the minority here. I like Tales too. If you listen through the drugs, there is some angst in there.
> 
> Close to the Edge goes to the desert island with me!
> 
> fritz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tony1 <atm655@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 11:01 am
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To each their own. I find "Topographic Oceans" delightfully intense.
> Concentration rather than endurance or patience fits me.
> You, Clay make it sound like a visit to the dentist.
> Close to the Edge is the only Yes album that I like better.
> 
> Tony1
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: ClayE 
> 
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com 
> 
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:02 AM
> 
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Just seeing the words "Topographic Oceans" sends me into a state of profound, soul-destroying boredom. Topographic Oceans requires extraordinary patience / endurance that I will never have.
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@ > wrote:
> >
> > A little bit. He knew of it's distinctive sound and it's importance in the
> > music alongside other things. He was also really surprised at the efforts
> > involved in fixing the Wakeman Tron. He doesn't remember anything about it's
> > reliability on stage, but they did have to know the specific size of the
> > keyboards and more importantly the space needed around them to build the
> > stage set designs.
> > This was for the coloured pipe columns that emanated from Rick's side of the
> > stage and the canopy over Alan White's drums.
> > They were the first designs were for the Topograhic Oceans tour. He said a
> > lot more work went into it than most can appreciate.
> > 
> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris-
> > > I had to retrieve my copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and
> > > re-live a bit of the '70s. Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger's
> > > pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134. Pages of house designs followed
> > > that. Mind-bending!
> > > Then there were his amazing watercolor posters....
> > >
> > > Hey, did he have any thoughts on the Mellotron?
> > >
> > > -Bruce D.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@ >* wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@ >
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The
> > > Venture Bros)
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
> > >
> > > The Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
> > >
> > > The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange before
> > > the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's brother who did
> > > all the Yes stage architecture.
> > >
> > > Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent weekend course /
> > > exhibit I attended.
> > >
> > > (His business card is also very interesting! )
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch <punchbowl4@ earthlin
> > > k.net<http://us.mc636. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=punchbowl4@>
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Didn't Number 2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number
> > >> 6....?
> > >>
> > >> Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?). I remember the ones that had
> > >> speakers planted in them. $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's. I believe
> > >> Roger Dean even designed one. Phaaaaar Out!
> > >>
> > >> -Bruce D.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> >
>






      
    
             

  
 
=

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by Rick Blechta


On Apr 27, 2010, at 4:02 AM, mattias wrote:

As a drummer I have always had problems with Alan White in comparison to Bill Bruford.

Agreed. Alan White is a very competent drummer, but he's just a drummer. There's always something special that Bruford brings to the table, no matter where he's playing.

Rick

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by lsf5275@aol.com

Perhaps this will help, Mike. Nutritious and calming.

 
 
In a message dated 4/27/2010 9:50:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
mike.dickson@gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
_fdoddy@aol.com_ (mailto:fdoddy@aol.com)  wrote:



Tony and I  disagree on a lot, but I am also in the minority here.  I like 
Tales  too.  If you listen through the drugs, there is some angst in  there.




Yes. Mine.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by djacques@csulb.edu

It was very hard to replace Bruford. He is an amazing artist. I especially love his work with King Crimson.

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From: Rick Blechta <rick@rickblechta.com>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:13:09 -0400
To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)


On Apr 27, 2010, at 4:02 AM, mattias wrote:

As a drummer I have always had problems with Alan White in comparison to Bill Bruford.

Agreed. Alan White is a very competent drummer, but he's just a drummer. There's always something special that Bruford brings to the table, no matter where he's playing.

Rick

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by Tom Doncourt

Topographic oceans- Great guitar work, vocal harmony, bass playing. Adequate drumming. Wakeman= not whole heartedly into it,goes from noodley to genius(esp.some great mellotron work) Whole thing doesn\u2019t quite hang together. Like most of prog from that point Yes went over the deep end. But.....I really love it. Fragile and Close to the Edge are a tough act to follow-maybe they should have stuck to the short prog form (25 minutes or less).
;



It was very hard to replace Bruford. He is an amazing artist. I especially love his work with King Crimson.

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From: Rick Blechta
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:13:09 -0400
To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)





On Apr 27, 2010, at 4:02 AM, mattias wrote:

As a drummer I have always had problems with Alan White in comparison to Bill Bruford.

Agreed. Alan White is a very competent drummer, but he's just a drummer. There's always something special that Bruford brings to the table, no matter where he's playing.

Rick







Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by Bruce Daily

Hey Fritz-
   You might check out the DVD-Audio 2002 release (if you can find it, and a player).  It has both a 96KHz/24bit and 192KHz/24bit recording of the original stereo mix.  Very clear to my ears, and a nice bottom.
   The surround mix has some oddities.  The credits list the surround mix as a "remix".  Maybe it came from an old Quadrophonic mix (like the Moodies' SACDs surround sources).
 
   -Bruce D.


--- On Tue, 4/27/10, fdoddy@aol.com <fdoddy@aol.com> wrote:


From: fdoddy@aol.com <fdoddy@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 5:23 AM


  




Is there a Fragile re-master that actually sounds good?  I've always thought the vinyl was some of the best sounding rock production out there, but every digital version I've heard sounded flat and distorted.


fritz








-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo. com>
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 11:45 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)


  








   I'll take "Tales", "Fragile", "Relayer", and "Close to the Edge" to that isle with me.
 
   Damn, I sense another list thread forming again....
 
  -Bruce D.


--- On Mon, 4/26/10, ClayE <ecclesreinson@ rogers.com> wrote:


From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@ rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Monday, April 26, 2010, 7:33 PM


  

You guys must be forgetting about Tormato, Drama and 90210 ! 

--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, fdoddy@... wrote:
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>
> 
> Tony and I disagree on a lot, but I am also in the minority here. I like Tales too. If you listen through the drugs, there is some angst in there.
> 
> Close to the Edge goes to the desert island with me!
> 
> fritz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tony1 <atm655@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Mon, Apr 26, 2010 11:01 am
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To each their own. I find "Topographic Oceans" delightfully intense.
> Concentration rather than endurance or patience fits me.
> You, Clay make it sound like a visit to the dentist.
> Close to the Edge is the only Yes album that I like better.
> 
> Tony1
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: ClayE 
> 
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com 
> 
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 10:02 AM
> 
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Just seeing the words "Topographic Oceans" sends me into a state of profound, soul-destroying boredom. Topographic Oceans requires extraordinary patience / endurance that I will never have.
> 
> --- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@ > wrote:
> >
> > A little bit. He knew of it's distinctive sound and it's importance in the
> > music alongside other things. He was also really surprised at the efforts
> > involved in fixing the Wakeman Tron. He doesn't remember anything about it's
> > reliability on stage, but they did have to know the specific size of the
> > keyboards and more importantly the space needed around them to build the
> > stage set designs.
> > This was for the coloured pipe columns that emanated from Rick's side of the
> > stage and the canopy over Alan White's drums.
> > They were the first designs were for the Topograhic Oceans tour. He said a
> > lot more work went into it than most can appreciate.
> > 
> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 2:31 AM, Bruce Daily <pocotron@> wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Chris-
> > > I had to retrieve my copy of Roger Dean's excellent art book "Views" and
> > > re-live a bit of the '70s. Page 130 shows Martyn's Retreat Pod, and Roger's
> > > pod-like Childrens Bed follows on page 134. Pages of house designs followed
> > > that. Mind-bending!
> > > Then there were his amazing watercolor posters....
> > >
> > > Hey, did he have any thoughts on the Mellotron?
> > >
> > > -Bruce D.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@ >* wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@ >
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The
> > > Venture Bros)
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 11:48 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Number 2 sat in an Earo Arnio Ball chair.
> > >
> > > The Egg Chair was a different designer (maybe Italian)
> > >
> > > The retreat pod chair ( half of which appears in Clockwork Orange before
> > > the rape scene) was created by Martyn Dean - Roger Dean's brother who did
> > > all the Yes stage architecture.
> > >
> > > Roger and I discussed this a some length during a recent weekend course /
> > > exhibit I attended.
> > >
> > > (His business card is also very interesting! )
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 1:30 AM, Pomeroy RH Ranch <punchbowl4@ earthlin
> > > k.net<http://us.mc636. mail.yahoo. com/mc/compose? to=punchbowl4@>
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Didn't Number 2 always sit in one of those when interrogating Number
> > >> 6....?
> > >>
> > >> Loved the "Egg Chair"(but with windows?). I remember the ones that had
> > >> speakers planted in them. $500 to $700 each in the mid '70's. I believe
> > >> Roger Dean even designed one. Phaaaaar Out!
> > >>
> > >> -Bruce D.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> >
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by MAinPsych@aol.com

In a message dated 4/27/2010 5:17:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
rick@rickblechta.com writes:



On Apr 27, 2010, at 7:21 AM, _fdoddy@aol.com_ (mailto:fdoddy@aol.com)  
wrote:


I thought Tormato was a joke, 90210 was  pablum and Drama was AA  baseball.



I always thought they just couldn't spell  "tomato".



"You say tomato, and I say tormato...Let's call the whole thing  off"

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by MAinPsych@aol.com

In a message dated 4/27/2010 5:17:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  ri
ck@rickblechta.com writes:

 
On Apr 27, 2010, at 7:21 AM, _fdoddy@aol.com_ (mailto:fdoddy@aol.com)  
wrote:


I thought Tormato was a joke, 90210 was  pablum and Drama was AA  baseball.



I always thought they just couldn't spell  "tomato".



Sorry, I know this was too obvious, but one of us was bound to do  it...

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by fdoddy@aol.com

hahaha
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Blechta <rick@rickblechta.com>
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Sent: Tue, Apr 27, 2010 8:15 am
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)


  
    
                  



On Apr 27, 2010, at 7:21 AM, fdoddy@aol.com wrote:


I thought Tormato was a joke, 90210 was pablum and Drama was AA baseball.



I always thought they just couldn't spell "tomato".

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by MAinPsych@aol.com

In a message dated 4/27/2010 9:49:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
MAinPsych@aol.com writes:

 
In a message dated 4/27/2010 5:17:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
rick@rickblechta.In a messag

 
On Apr 27, 2010, at 7:21 AM, _fdoddy@aol.com_ (mailto:fdoddy@aol.com)  
wrote:


I thought Tormato was a joke, 90210 was  pablum and Drama was AA  baseball.


I always thought they just couldn't spell  "tomato".



Sorry, I know this was too obvious, but one of us was bound to do  it...

 
This would make more sense if the original message was  posted:
"You say tomato, and I say tormato...Let's call the whole thing  off!"

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-27 by Pomeroy RH Ranch

And with Holdsworth
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It was very hard to replace Bruford. He is an amazing artist. I especially love his work with King Crimson.

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From: Rick Blechta com>;
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:13:09 -0400
To: yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)


On Apr 27, 2010, at 4:02 AM, mattias wrote:

As a drummer I have always had problems with Alan White in comparison to Bill Bruford.

Agreed. Alan White is a very competent drummer, but he's just a drummer. There's always something special that Bruford brings to the table, no matter where he's playing.

Rick

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-28 by Chris Dale

I don't have Drama on CD but the newest Tormato CD release is a better mix than the original.

It's one of the only records to have Birotron on it, but it's only used as background filler sound.

The record doesn't hold together that well. It seems there's a lack of creative ideas. On The Silent Wings Of Freedom is probably the best track on that album.






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On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:54 AM, <MAinPsych@aol.com> wrote:

In a message dated 4/27/2010 9:49:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, MAinPsych@aol.com writes:
In a message dated 4/27/2010 5:17:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, rick@rickblechta.com writes:
On Apr 27, 2010, at 7:21 AM, fdoddy@aol.com wrote:

I thought Tormato was a joke, 90210 was pablum and Drama was AA baseball.
I always thought they just couldn't spell "tomato".
Sorry, I know this was too obvious, but one of us was bound to do it...
This would make more sense if the original message was posted:
"You say tomato, and I say tormato...Let's call the whole thing off!"

Re: The Key to Science is Prog Rock (The Venture Bros)

2010-04-28 by ClayE

The last track on side one, "Release, Release" is good for constipation along with increased intake of water, and fiber.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...> wrote:
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>
> I don't have Drama on CD but the newest Tormato CD release is a better mix
> than the original.
> 
> It's one of the only records to have Birotron on it, but it's only used as
> background filler sound.
> 
> The record doesn't hold together that well. It seems there's a lack of
> creative ideas.  On The Silent Wings Of Freedom is probably the best track
> on that album.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 1:54 AM, <MAinPsych@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >  In a message dated 4/27/2010 9:49:09 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > MAinPsych@... writes:
> >
> >  In a message dated 4/27/2010 5:17:13 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > rick@... writes:
> >
> >  On Apr 27, 2010, at 7:21 AM, fdoddy@... wrote:
> >
> > I thought Tormato was a joke, 90210 was pablum and Drama was AA baseball.
> >
> > I always thought they just couldn't spell "tomato".
> >
> >  *Sorry, I know this was too obvious, but one of us was bound to do it...*
> >
> > **
> > *This would make more sense if the original message was posted:*
> > *"You say tomato, and I say tormato...Let's call the whole thing off!"*
> >  
> >
>