The Mellotron Group

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Pomeroy RH Ranch" <punchbowl4@...> wrote:
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> Clay –
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> Nice recording!! What are you using for accompaniment?
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> It's likely the "well tempered" compromise coupled with the generally
> oh-so-slightly out-of-tune notes (depending on which sound bank). If you can
> post a G Maj version, I'd like to hear it…..
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> Vance
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ClayE
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 3:34 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] A, B, Cò, D, E, Fò, Gò, A
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> Why is it that a tune played in A major can sound right but the same tune
> played in G major sounds sad and gloomy? 'A major' seems to work well with
> mellotron strings and Oboe. Don't know why.
>
> Find file 'A Major Atlantic.mp3' here:
> http://launch.
> <http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/newmellotrongroup/files/>
> groups.yahoo.com/group/newmellotrongroup/files/
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> check this out:
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> From Christian Schubart's Ideen zu einer Aesthetik der Tonkunst
> (1806)translated by Rita Steblin in A History of Key Characteristics in
> the 18thand Early 19th Centuries. UMI Research Press (1983).
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> C major
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> Completely pure. Its character is: innocence, simplicity, naïvety,
> children's talk.
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> C minor
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> Declaration of love and at the same time the lament of unhappy love.
> All languishing, longing, sighing of the love-sick soul lies in this
> key.
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> Db major
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> A leering key, degenerating into grief and rapture. It cannot laugh,
> but it can smile; it cannot howl, but it can at least grimace its
> crying.--Consequently only unusual characters and feelings can be
> brought out in this key.
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> D major
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> The key of triumph, of Hallejuahs, of war-cries, of
> victory-rejoicing. Thus, the inviting symphonies, the marches,
> holiday songs and heaven-rejoicing choruses are set in this key.
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> D minor
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> Melancholy womanliness, the spleen and humours brood.
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> D# minor
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> Feelings of the anxiety of the soul's deepest distress, of brooding
> despair, of blackest depresssion, of the most gloomy condition of
> the soul. Every fear, every hesitation of the shuddering heart,
> breathes out of horrible D# minor. If ghosts could speak, their
> speech would approximate this key.
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> Eb major
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> The key of love, of devotion, of intimate conversation with God.
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> E major
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> Noisy shouts of joy, laughing pleasure and not yet complete, full
> delight lies in E Major.
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> F major
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> Complaisance & calm.
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> F minor
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> Deep depression, funereal lament, groans of misery and longing for
> the grave.
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> F# major
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> Triumph over difficulty, free sigh of relief utered when hurdles are
> surmounted; echo of a soul which has fiercely struggled and finally
> conquered lies in all uses of this key.
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> F# minor
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> A gloomy key: it tugs at passion as a dog biting a dress. Resentment
> and discontent are its language.
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> G major
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> Everything rustic, idyllic and lyrical, every calm and satisfied
> passion, every tender gratitude for true friendship and faithful
> love,--in a word every gentle and peaceful emotion of the heart is
> correctly expressed by this key.
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> G minor
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> Discontent, uneasiness, worry about a failed scheme; bad-tempered
> gnashing of teeth; in a word: resentment and dislike.
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> Ab major
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> Key of the grave. Death, grave, putrefaction, judgment, eternity lie
> in its radius.
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> Ab minor
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> Grumbler, heart squeezed until it suffocates; wailing lament,
> difficult struggle; in a word, the color of this key is everything
> struggling with difficulty.
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> A major
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> This key includes declarations of innocent love, satisfaction with
> one's state of affairs; hope of seeing one's beloved again when
> parting; youthful cheerfulness and trust in God.
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> A minor
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> Pious womanliness and tenderness of character.
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> Bb major
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> Cheerful love, clear conscience, hope aspiration for a better world.
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> Bb minor
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> A quaint creature, often dressed in the garment of night. It is
> somewhat surly and very seldom takes on a pleasant countenance.
> Mocking God and the world; discontented with itself and with
> everything; preparation for suicide sounds in this key.
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> B major
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> Strongly coloured, announcing wild passions, composed from the most
> glaring coulors. Anger, rage, jealousy, fury, despair and every
> burden of the heart lies in its sphere.
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> B minor
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> This is as it were the key of patience, of calm awaiting ones's fate
> and of submission to divine dispensation.
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> fritz
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, Apr 20, 2010 6:33 pm
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] A, B, Cò, D, E, Fò, Gò, A
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> Why is it that a tune played in A major can sound right but the same tune
> played in G major sounds sad and gloomy? 'A major' seems to work well
> with mellotron strings and Oboe. Don't know why.
>
> Find file 'A Major Atlantic.mp3' here:
> http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/newmellotrongroup/files/
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--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Pomeroy RH Ranch" <punchbowl4@...> wrote:
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> Clay –
> Nice recording!! What are you using for accompaniment?

> Yamaha DX: hammond sim, bells, strings.
> Notre Dame de Budapest Pipe Organ Samples (GigaStudio GS3)
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> Since Tascam bought GigaStudio then screwed it up and dumped it, I'll be
> needing to replace it soon. I've been looking at NI Kontakt 4. Does
> anyone know what the included library is like? Looks like a long list of
> 3rd party sample libraries. Can I use Kontakt with Ableton Live? I
> bloody well hope so.
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> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Pomeroy RH Ranch"
> <punchbowl4@...> wrote:
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>> Clay –
>> Nice recording!! What are you using for accompaniment?
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--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:
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> Yamaha DX: hammond sim, bells, strings.
> Notre Dame de Budapest Pipe Organ Samples (GigaStudio GS3)
>
> Since Tascam bought GigaStudio then screwed it up and dumped it, I'll be needing to replace it soon. I've been looking at NI Kontakt 4. Does anyone know what the included library is like? Looks like a long list of 3rd party sample libraries. Can I use Kontakt with Ableton Live? I bloody well hope so.
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> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Pomeroy RH Ranch" <punchbowl4@> wrote:
> >
> > Clay –
> > Nice recording!! What are you using for accompaniment?
>

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Tron400" <kornowicz@...> wrote:
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> I couldn't find the library manual for v4 online, but here's the library manual for v3:
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> http://co.native-instruments.com/fileadmin/redaktion_upload/pdf/Kontakt_3_Library_Manual.pdf
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> It's a good general library and there are a lot of excellent 3rd party libraries. One of my favorites is the Hollow Sun Hammond Novachord.
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> The going price seems to be around $379, but you can get NI Komplete for around $499. It has Kontakt 4 and a lot of other good stuff.
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> I use it with Cubase 5, but I don't see why it wouldn't work with Ableton.
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> Bernie
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> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@> wrote:
> >
> > Yamaha DX: hammond sim, bells, strings.
> > Notre Dame de Budapest Pipe Organ Samples (GigaStudio GS3)
> >
> > Since Tascam bought GigaStudio then screwed it up and dumped it, I'll be needing to replace it soon. I've been looking at NI Kontakt 4. Does anyone know what the included library is like? Looks like a long list of 3rd party sample libraries. Can I use Kontakt with Ableton Live? I bloody well hope so.
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> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Pomeroy RH Ranch" <punchbowl4@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Clay –
> > > Nice recording!! What are you using for accompaniment?
> >
>

Wow..That was helpful. The Vienna Orch lib looks like fun.
The new choirs in Kontakt-4 should be good too.
"The choir voices can seamlessly morph the vowels ("A-E-I-O-U" ) while holding a key/note, which is nearly impossible with other samplers."

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@...> wrote:
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> I forget the name of it now, but there is a HUGE sampler available which
> can be programmed to sing actual words (or sounds) you type into an editor.
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> ClayE wrote:
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> > Wow..That was helpful. The Vienna Orch lib looks like fun.
> > The new choirs in Kontakt-4 should be good too.
> > "The choir voices can seamlessly morph the vowels ("A-E-I-O-U") while
> > holding a key/note, which is nearly impossible with other samplers."
> >
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--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@... wrote:
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> Nice report there Mike. Good attention to detail...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, Apr 21, 2010 12:51 pm
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: A, B, Cò, D, E, Fò, Gò, A
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> I forget the name of it now, but there is a HUGE sampler availablewhich can be programmed to sing actual words (or sounds) you type intoan editor.
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> ClayE wrote:
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> Wow..That was helpful. The Vienna Orch lib looks like fun.
> The new choirs in Kontakt-4 should be good too.
> "The choir voices can seamlessly morph the vowels ("A-E-I-O-U")while holding a key/note, which is nearly impossible with othersamplers."
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> EastWest/Quantum Leap Symphonic Choirs. Of course the first thing you
> want to type in would be something rude and childish.
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> Ha-lle-lu-jah, Ha-lle-lu-jah
> Cun-ne-lin-gus, Cun-ne-lin-gus
> Ha-lle-lu-jah
> clitoris-vulva-ohhh!
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--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <astroboy@...> wrote:
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> I can't help myself, Clay. Every time I sit down at a computer, I type
> that. Glad to see that I'm not alone.
> clitoris-vulva-ohhh!
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> ClayE wrote:
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> > EastWest/Quantum Leap Symphonic Choirs. Of course the first thing you
> > want to type in would be something rude and childish.
> >
> > Ha-lle-lu-jah, Ha-lle-lu-jah
> > Cun-ne-lin-gus, Cun-ne-lin-gus
> > Ha-lle-lu-jah
> > clitoris-vulva-ohhh!
> >
> >
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> Nice password you have there John. Easy to remember. Ha
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> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, john barrick
> <astroboy@...> wrote:
> >
> > I can't help myself, Clay. Every time I sit down at a computer, I type
> > that. Glad to see that I'm not alone.
> > clitoris-vulva-ohhh!
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