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Steinberger bass

2010-02-14 by ClayE

I used to think that the neckless Steinberger bass was a cool instrument.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NOZU2iPA8
After seeing this, not so much.

(Jesus !)

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Steinberger bass

2010-02-14 by John Wright

The bass player looks like Eric Estrada.

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Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Steinberger bass


  

I used to think that the neckless Steinberger bass was a cool
instrument.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NOZU2iPA8
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-NOZU2iPA8> 
After seeing this, not so much.

(Jesus !)

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Steinberger bass

2010-02-14 by Rick Blechta


On Feb 14, 2010, at 6:39 PM, John Wright wrote:

The bass player looks like Eric Estrada.

Don't know who he is, but Jesus is his friend, that's pretty clear.

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Steinberger bass

2010-02-14 by John Wright

A pretty bad TV show in the 70's called "CHiPs" (California Highway
Patrol).  He was one of the cops.

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Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Steinberger bass


  



On Feb 14, 2010, at 6:39 PM, John Wright wrote:


	The bass player looks like Eric Estrada.


Don't know who he is, but Jesus is his friend, that's pretty clear.

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Steinberger bass

2010-02-15 by Bruce Daily

Speaking of unusual bass guitars, does anyone remember and obscure little movie called "Rock and Roll Your Eyes"?  It was an early film of Emerson, Lake and Palmer in concert, probably 1970 or so.  Greg Lake played a bass guitar that had a bass viol scrolled head on it (complete with geared right-angled tuning pegs).  I never saw another one.  I always wondered where he got that bass and how it was made.  Any insight?
 
   -Bruce D.


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From: John Wright <john.wright@consona.com>
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Steinberger bass
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 4:56 PM


  




A pretty bad TV show in the 70's called "CHiPs" (California Highway Patrol).  He was one of the cops.



From: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:newmellotro ngroup@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Rick Blechta
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:52 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Steinberger bass


  




On Feb 14, 2010, at 6:39 PM, John Wright wrote:

The bass player looks like Eric Estrada.

Don't know who he is, but Jesus is his friend, that's pretty clear.

Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-15 by Tron400

Anything like this?

http://www.retrofret.com/images/4199_bassguitar/large/4199_01.jpg

I had a fretted one and it didn't sound very good; no top or bottom end. Used it on our first album. Wish I'd used my EB-3 instead.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...> wrote:
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>    Speaking of unusual bass guitars, does anyone remember and obscure little movie called "Rock and Roll Your Eyes"?  It was an early film of Emerson, Lake and Palmer in concert, probably 1970 or so.  Greg Lake played a bass guitar that had a bass viol scrolled head on it (complete with geared right-angled tuning pegs).  I never saw another one.  I always wondered where he got that bass and how it was made.  Any insight?
> Â 
> Â Â  -Bruce D.
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, John Wright <john.wright@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: John Wright <john.wright@...>
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Steinberger bass
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 4:56 PM
> 
> 
> Â  
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> A pretty bad TV show in the 70's called "CHiPs" (California Highway Patrol).  He was one of the cops.
> 
> 
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:newmellotro ngroup@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Rick Blechta
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:52 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Steinberger bass
> 
> 
> Â  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 14, 2010, at 6:39 PM, John Wright wrote:
> 
> The bass player looks like Eric Estrada.
> 
> Don't know who he is, but Jesus is his friend, that's pretty clear.
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-15 by Bruce Daily

Bernie-
   Thanks, very similar.  It was fretted, I remember.  I can't recall the body style, but my mind wants to say it might've been Hofner-esque.  Probably a custom job, because the scrolled head (and possibly the neck) looked like it came off an upright bass viol.
   l do remember that there were 3 other people in the movie theater when it started, but I was alone when it ended.  Prog-rock for ya, I guess.
 
   -Bruce D.


--- On Sun, 2/14/10, Tron400 <kornowicz@cox.net> wrote:


From: Tron400 <kornowicz@cox.net>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 5:49 PM


  





Anything like this?

http://www.retrofre t.com/images/ 4199_bassguitar/ large/4199_ 01.jpg

I had a fretted one and it didn't sound very good; no top or bottom end. Used it on our first album. Wish I'd used my EB-3 instead.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@.. .> wrote:
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>    Speaking of unusual bass guitars, does anyone remember and obscure little movie called "Rock and Roll Your Eyes"?  It was an early film of Emerson, Lake and Palmer in concert, probably 1970 or so.  Greg Lake played a bass guitar that had a bass viol scrolled head on it (complete with geared right-angled tuning pegs).  I never saw another one.  I always wondered where he got that bass and how it was made.  Any insight?
> Â 
> Â Â  -Bruce D.
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, John Wright <john.wright@ ...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: John Wright <john.wright@ ...>
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Steinberger bass
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 4:56 PM
> 
> 
> Â  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> A pretty bad TV show in the 70's called "CHiPs" (California Highway Patrol).  He was one of the cops.
> 
> 
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:newmellotro ngroup@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Rick Blechta
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:52 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Steinberger bass
> 
> 
> Â  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 14, 2010, at 6:39 PM, John Wright wrote:
> 
> The bass player looks like Eric Estrada.
> 
> Don't know who he is, but Jesus is his friend, that's pretty clear.
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-15 by william Beith

The movie is available on DVD as "Pictures at an Exhibition Collectors Edition."


The disc is double sided with the movie on A and the soundtrack only on B.

From D2 Vision LTD/Favourite TV Inc. 

Information from Amazon.com (where they state it is discontinued but several are available used for $12)

This version is what I saw in the theaters but the DVD seems to be missing parts of the performance. Worth it for ELP fans to get a very early look at the band.

Bill

	* Actors: Keith Emerson, Greg Lake, Carl Palmer 
	* Directors: Nicholas Ferguson 
	* Producers: John House, Lindsey Clennell 
	* Format: Color, DVD, NTSC 
	* Language: English 
	* Region: Region 1 (U.S. and Canada only. Read more about DVD formats.)

	* Aspect Ratio: 1.33:1 
	* Number of discs: 1 
	* Rating: G (General Audience) 
	* Studio: Mvd Visual 
	* DVD Release Date: August 7, 2001 
	* Run Time: 91 minutes 
	* Average Customer Review: 3.9 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (70 customer reviews) 
70 Reviews 
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From: Tron400 <kornowicz@cox.net>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 6:49:22 PM
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

  


Anything like this?

http://www.retrofret.com/images/4199_bassguitar/large/4199_01.jpg

I had a fretted one and it didn't sound very good; no top or bottom end. Used it on our first album. Wish I'd used my EB-3 instead.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@.. .> wrote:
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>
>    Speaking of unusual bass guitars, does anyone remember and obscure little movie called "Rock and Roll Your Eyes"?  It was an early film of Emerson, Lake and Palmer in concert, probably 1970 or so.  Greg Lake played a bass guitar that had a bass viol scrolled head on it (complete with geared right-angled tuning pegs).  I never saw another one.  I always wondered where he got that bass and how it was made.  Any insight?
> Â 
> Â Â  -Bruce D.
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, John Wright <john.wright@ ...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: John Wright <john.wright@ ...>
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Steinberger bass
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 4:56 PM
> 
> 
> Â  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> A pretty bad TV show in the 70's called "CHiPs" (California Highway Patrol).  He was one of the cops.
> 
> 
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:newmellotro ngroup@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Rick Blechta
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:52 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Steinberger bass
> 
> 
> Â  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 14, 2010, at 6:39 PM, John Wright wrote:
> 
> The bass player looks like Eric Estrada.
> 
> Don't know who he is, but Jesus is his friend, that's pretty clear.
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-15 by william Beith

One queston I never asked Emerson when I interviewed him for a magazine- Why did he never use a mellotron?

Anyone know if he ever answered this?

Bill




________________________________
From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 7:08:28 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

  
Bernie-
   Thanks, very similar.  It was fretted, I remember.  I can't recall the body style, but my mind wants to say it might've been Hofner-esque.  Probably a custom job, because the scrolled head (and possibly the neck) looked like it came off an upright bass viol.
   l do remember that there were 3 other people in the movie theater when it started, but I was alone when it ended.  Prog-rock for ya, I guess.

   -Bruce D.


--- On Sun, 2/14/10, Tron400 <kornowicz@cox. net> wrote:
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>From: Tron400 <kornowicz@cox. net>
>Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass
>To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
>Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 5:49 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>Anything like this?
>
>http://www.retrofret.com/images/4199_bassguitar/large/4199_01.jpg
>
>I had a fretted one and it didn't sound very good; no top or bottom end. Used it on our first album. Wish I'd used my EB-3 instead.
>
>Bernie
>
>--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@.. .> wrote:
>>
>>    Speaking of unusual bass guitars, does anyone remember and obscure little movie called "Rock and Roll Your Eyes"?  It was an early film of Emerson, Lake and Palmer in concert, probably 1970 or so.  Greg Lake played a bass guitar that had a bass viol scrolled head on it (complete with geared right-angled tuning pegs).  I never saw another one.  I always wondered where he got that bass and how it was made.  Any insight?
>> Â 
>> Â Â  -Bruce D.
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, John Wright <john.wright@ ...> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> From: John Wright <john.wright@ ...>
>> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Steinberger bass
>> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
>> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 4:56 PM
>> 
>> 
>> Â  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> A pretty bad TV show in the 70's called "CHiPs" (California Highway Patrol).  He was one of the cops.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:newmellotro ngroup@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Rick Blechta
>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:52 PM
>> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
>> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Steinberger bass
>> 
>> 
>> Â  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 14, 2010, at 6:39 PM, John Wright wrote:
>> 
>> The bass player looks like Eric Estrada.
>> 
>> Don't know who he is, but Jesus is his friend, that's pretty clear.
>>
>
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-15 by Bruce Daily

Thanks for the "updated" film title, Bill.  Might have to seek it out.
   -Bruce D.


--- On Sun, 2/14/10, william Beith <wbeith@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


From: william Beith <wbeith@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 6:13 PM


  





The movie is available on DVD as "Pictures at an Exhibition Collectors Edition."

 
The disc is double sided with the movie on A and the soundtrack only on B.
 
From D2 Vision LTD/Favourite TV Inc. 
 
Information from Amazon.com (where they state it is discontinued but several are available used for $12)
 
This version is what I saw in the theaters but the DVD seems to be missing parts of the performance. Worth it for ELP fans to get a very early look at the band.
 
Bill
 
Actors: Keith Emerson, Greg Lake, Carl Palmer Directors: Nicholas Ferguson Producers: John House, Lindsey Clennell Format: Color, DVD, NTSC Language: English Region: Region 1 (U.S. and Canada only. Read more about DVD formats.)
Aspect Ratio: 1.33:1 Number of discs: 1 Rating: G (General Audience) Studio: Mvd Visual DVD Release Date: August 7, 2001 Run Time: 91 minutes Average Customer Review: 3.9 out of 5 stars  See all reviews (70 customer reviews) 






70 Reviews 



5 star: 


 (26)

4 star: 


 (22)

3 star: 


 (13)

2 star: 


 (6)

1 star: 


 (3)
› See all 70 customer reviews... 
ASIN: B00005LC57 




From: Tron400 <kornowicz@cox. net>
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 6:49:22 PM
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

  



Anything like this?

http://www.retrofre t.com/images/ 4199_bassguitar/ large/4199_ 01.jpg

I had a fretted one and it didn't sound very good; no top or bottom end. Used it on our first album. Wish I'd used my EB-3 instead.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@.. .> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>
>    Speaking of unusual bass guitars, does anyone remember and obscure little movie called "Rock and Roll Your Eyes"?  It was an early film of Emerson, Lake and Palmer in concert, probably 1970 or so.  Greg Lake played a bass guitar that had a bass viol scrolled head on it (complete with geared right-angled tuning pegs).  I never saw another one.  I always wondered where he got that bass and how it was made.  Any insight?
> Â 
> Â Â  -Bruce D.
> 
> 
> --- On Sun, 2/14/10, John Wright <john.wright@ ...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: John Wright <john.wright@ ...>
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Steinberger bass
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 4:56 PM
> 
> 
> Â  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> A pretty bad TV show in the 70's called "CHiPs" (California Highway Patrol).  He was one of the cops.
> 
> 
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:newmellotro ngroup@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Rick Blechta
> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:52 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Steinberger bass
> 
> 
> Â  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 14, 2010, at 6:39 PM, John Wright wrote:
> 
> The bass player looks like Eric Estrada.
> 
> Don't know who he is, but Jesus is his friend, that's pretty clear.
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-15 by MAinPsych@aol.com

In a message dated 2/14/2010 5:13:29 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
wbeith@sbcglobal.net writes:

The movie is available on DVD as "Pictures at an Exhibition Collectors  
Edition."

The  disc is double sided with the movie on A and the soundtrack only on B.
From  D2 Vision LTD/Favourite TV Inc. 
Information  from Amazon.com (where they state it is discontinued but 
several are available  used for $12)
This  version is what I saw in the theaters but the DVD seems to be missing 
parts of  the performance. Worth it for ELP fans to get a very early look 
at the  band.
Bill



I have this DVD and also saw it in the theatre c. 1970.  Lake  is playing a 
Fender Precision with block fingerboard  inlays.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-15 by Bruce Daily

Hey Frank-
  No scrolled head?  Have I lost my mind?  Help!
    -Bruce D.


--- On Sun, 2/14/10, MAinPsych@aol.com <MAinPsych@aol.com> wrote:
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From: MAinPsych@aol.com <MAinPsych@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 6:38 PM


  





In a message dated 2/14/2010 5:13:29 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, wbeith@sbcglobal. net writes:

The movie is available on DVD as "Pictures at an Exhibition Collectors Edition."

The disc is double sided with the movie on A and the soundtrack only on B.
From D2 Vision LTD/Favourite TV Inc. 
Information from Amazon.com (where they state it is discontinued but several are available used for $12)
This version is what I saw in the theaters but the DVD seems to be missing parts of the performance. Worth it for ELP fans to get a very early look at the band.
Bill

I have this DVD and also saw it in the theatre c. 1970.  Lake is playing a Fender Precision with block fingerboard inlays.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-15 by MAinPsych@aol.com

In a message dated 2/14/2010 5:44:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
pocotron@yahoo.com writes:

Hey Frank-
  No scrolled head?  Have I lost my mind?  Help!
    -Bruce D.



Just watched it again a couple of weeks ago.  Fender Jazz,  maple neck, 
block inlays, and a Gibson J-200 for "The  Sage".

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-15 by Bruce Daily

Huh.  Wonder where I saw it?  Guess I'll have to run a pipe cleaner through one ear and out the other...
   The 70's were a funny time.
 
   -Bruce D.


--- On Sun, 2/14/10, MAinPsych@aol.com <MAinPsych@aol.com> wrote:
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From: MAinPsych@aol.com <MAinPsych@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, February 14, 2010, 6:47 PM


  





In a message dated 2/14/2010 5:44:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pocotron@yahoo. com writes:

Hey Frank-
  No scrolled head?  Have I lost my mind?  Help!
    -Bruce D.

Just watched it again a couple of weeks ago.  Fender Jazz, maple neck, block inlays, and a Gibson J-200 for "The Sage".

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-15 by MAinPsych@aol.com

In a message dated 2/14/2010 5:55:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
pocotron@yahoo.com writes:

Huh.  Wonder where I saw it?  Guess I'll have to run a  pipe cleaner 
through one ear and out the other...
   The 70's were a funny time.



So were/are the horrid psychedelics in that  movie!

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-15 by Mike Dickson

I've read someplace that he 'didn't believe in stealing other people's 
music from them' which is what he thought the Mellotron did. Considering 
that he appropriated (and desecrated) so much by Copland, Ives, etc etc 
that seems to be a fairly wild thing for even *him* to say.

He used one once though on a Nice record. Can't remember the title; 
something about 'apples' and 'the moon'. Bloody awful, as you may expect.

william Beith wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
>  
> One queston I never asked Emerson when I interviewed him for a 
> magazine- Why did he never use a mellotron?
>  
> Anyone know if he ever answered this?

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-15 by Chris Dale

Yes - Diamond Hard Blue Apples Of The Moon.
I used to go on road trips with a couple of friends, and one of them loved this song, and the other hated it.
When they'd have a disagreement, the one who loved it played it endlessly for the one who hated it.
Needless to say, they weren't together for very long.
Girls especially don't like that song for some reason.
About the Mellotron - it does sound like real brass in most parts.
And Mike is right - the song is awful, but I attribute that to Lee Jackson and Brain Davison singing out of tune on it.


Show quoted textHide quoted text
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

I've read someplace that he 'didn't believe in stealing other people's music from them' which is what he thought the Mellotron did. Considering that he appropriated (and desecrated) so much by Copland, Ives, etc etc that seems to be a fairly wild thing for even *him* to say.

He used one once though on a Nice record. Can't remember the title; something about 'apples' and 'the moon'. Bloody awful, as you may expect.



william Beith wrote:
One queston I never asked Emerson when I interviewed him for a magazine- Why did he never use a mellotron?
Anyone know if he ever answered this?




RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-15 by John Wright

I have most of the Nice albums, not including the re-released "greatest
hits" stuff.  I got into them because I was such a fan of ELP first and
I wanted to explore the bands that led up to ELP.  For me, much of the
music was difficult.  Seems like you had endure a lot  of  Hammond
bashing and reverb tank boinking noise before the good stuff.  However,
the album artwork was very cool, particularly Five Bridges and Elegy.  I
think these were early offerings by Hypnosis.

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From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Dale
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:25 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass


  

Yes - Diamond Hard Blue Apples Of The Moon.
 
 
I used to go on road trips with a couple of friends, and one of them
loved this song, and the other hated it. 
 
When they'd have a disagreement, the one who loved it played it
endlessly for the one who hated it. 
 
Needless to say, they weren't together for very long.
 
Girls especially don't like that song for some reason. 
 
About the Mellotron - it does sound like real brass in most parts.
 
And Mike is right - the song is awful, but I attribute that to Lee
Jackson and Brain Davison singing out of tune on it.
 
 
 
 


 
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com
<mailto:mike.dickson@gmail.com> > wrote:


	  

	I've read someplace that he 'didn't believe in stealing other
people's music from them' which is what he thought the Mellotron did.
Considering that he appropriated (and desecrated) so much by Copland,
Ives, etc etc that seems to be a fairly wild thing for even *him* to
say.
	
	He used one once though on a Nice record. Can't remember the
title; something about 'apples' and 'the moon'. Bloody awful, as you may
expect. 


	william Beith wrote: 

		  
		One queston I never asked Emerson when I interviewed him
for a magazine- Why did he never use a mellotron?
		 
		Anyone know if he ever answered this?

Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-15 by ClayE

Five Bridges wasn't much good if I recall.  Side one - I don't remember, Sibelius: Karelia suite - Intermezzo had a few good bits,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtIw5AkUEsE
Then the album ended with Country Pie and One Of Those People <- Rubbish!!!  

Nice album cover though.  (A little play on words...arrrh arrrh)

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "John Wright" <john.wright@...> wrote:
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> I have most of the Nice albums, not including the re-released "greatest
> hits" stuff.  I got into them because I was such a fan of ELP first and
> I wanted to explore the bands that led up to ELP.  For me, much of the
> music was difficult.  Seems like you had endure a lot  of  Hammond
> bashing and reverb tank boinking noise before the good stuff.  However,
> the album artwork was very cool, particularly Five Bridges and Elegy.  I
> think these were early offerings by Hypnosis.
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Dale
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:25 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass
> 
> 
>   
> 
> Yes - Diamond Hard Blue Apples Of The Moon.
>  
>  
> I used to go on road trips with a couple of friends, and one of them
> loved this song, and the other hated it. 
>  
> When they'd have a disagreement, the one who loved it played it
> endlessly for the one who hated it. 
>  
> Needless to say, they weren't together for very long.
>  
> Girls especially don't like that song for some reason. 
>  
> About the Mellotron - it does sound like real brass in most parts.
>  
> And Mike is right - the song is awful, but I attribute that to Lee
> Jackson and Brain Davison singing out of tune on it.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
>  
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@...
> <mailto:mike.dickson@...> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 	  
> 
> 	I've read someplace that he 'didn't believe in stealing other
> people's music from them' which is what he thought the Mellotron did.
> Considering that he appropriated (and desecrated) so much by Copland,
> Ives, etc etc that seems to be a fairly wild thing for even *him* to
> say.
> 	
> 	He used one once though on a Nice record. Can't remember the
> title; something about 'apples' and 'the moon'. Bloody awful, as you may
> expect. 
> 
> 
> 	william Beith wrote: 
> 
> 		  
> 		One queston I never asked Emerson when I interviewed him
> for a magazine- Why did he never use a mellotron?
> 		 
> 		Anyone know if he ever answered this?
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-15 by william Beith

I met Emerson for the first time in spring 1969. I was working at The Graffiti in Aurora Il. and the Nice played there. Keith started the show with a baseball bat attacking a spring reverb unit plugged into Marshall amps, threw the organ over on himself and began playing. They did two shows so I had a chance to talk between shows. About three weeks later the Nice played a bill at the Filmore with King Crimson where Keith and Greg decided to get together. 

He was an amazing player and (in my opinion) trying to push the boundaries of the noises the Hammond could make. Maybe in a Cage/Stockhausen frame of reference?  His acquisition of the Moog was a logical extension of his push. 

As a high school kid I was just blown away and returned to school on Monday with this wild man story.....

All I got were weird looks until the first ELP album, then redemption!

Emerson always struck me as a guy who wants to explore then move on, leaving the refinment of discovery to others.

Thoughts on a light snow Chicago day.




________________________________
From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 10:12:22 AM
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

  
Five Bridges wasn't much good if I recall. Side one - I don't remember, Sibelius: Karelia suite - Intermezzo had a few good bits,
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=XtIw5AkUEsE
Then the album ended with Country Pie and One Of Those People <- Rubbish!!! 

Nice album cover though. (A little play on words...arrrh arrrh)

--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, "John Wright" <john.wright@ ...> wrote:
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>
> I have most of the Nice albums, not including the re-released "greatest
> hits" stuff. I got into them because I was such a fan of ELP first and
> I wanted to explore the bands that led up to ELP. For me, much of the
> music was difficult. Seems like you had endure a lot of Hammond
> bashing and reverb tank boinking noise before the good stuff. However,
> the album artwork was very cool, particularly Five Bridges and Elegy. I
> think these were early offerings by Hypnosis.
> 
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> 
> From: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Chris Dale
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 3:25 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yes - Diamond Hard Blue Apples Of The Moon.
> 
> 
> I used to go on road trips with a couple of friends, and one of them
> loved this song, and the other hated it. 
> 
> When they'd have a disagreement, the one who loved it played it
> endlessly for the one who hated it. 
> 
> Needless to say, they weren't together for very long.
> 
> Girls especially don't like that song for some reason. 
> 
> About the Mellotron - it does sound like real brass in most parts.
> 
> And Mike is right - the song is awful, but I attribute that to Lee
> Jackson and Brain Davison singing out of tune on it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@ ...
> <mailto:mike. dickson@. ..> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I've read someplace that he 'didn't believe in stealing other
> people's music from them' which is what he thought the Mellotron did.
> Considering that he appropriated (and desecrated) so much by Copland,
> Ives, etc etc that seems to be a fairly wild thing for even *him* to
> say.
> 
> He used one once though on a Nice record. Can't remember the
> title; something about 'apples' and 'the moon'. Bloody awful, as you may
> expect. 
> 
> 
> william Beith wrote: 
> 
> 
> One queston I never asked Emerson when I interviewed him
> for a magazine- Why did he never use a mellotron?
> 
> Anyone know if he ever answered this?
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-16 by Bruce Daily

Thanks again for all the input on this.
 
   My memory of that bass still haunts (and now bugs) me.  I know I saw Greg Lake playing it.  If the movie was edited for video release as reported, I bet the songs with that blasted bass ended up in the bin.  My story, and I'm stickin' to it.
 
  -Bruce D.
 


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In a message dated 2/14/2010 5:55:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, pocotron@yahoo. com writes:

Huh.  Wonder where I saw it?  Guess I'll have to run a pipe cleaner through one ear and out the other...
   The 70's were a funny time.

So were/are the horrid psychedelics in that movie!

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-16 by Andy Thompson

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  One queston I never asked Emerson when I interviewed him for a magazine- Why did he never use a mellotron?

  Anyone know if he ever answered this?

  Bill


  'Cos it's almost impossible to show off on one?  :-)

  Andy T.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-16 by lsf5275@aol.com

Unless you sit on one naked like I occasionally do.
 
 
In a message dated 2/16/2010 7:04:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
andy.thompson@virgin.net writes:

One queston I never asked Emerson when I interviewed him for a magazine-  
Why did he never use a mellotron?
 
Anyone know if he ever answered this?
 
Bill


'Cos it's almost impossible to show off on one?   :-)
 
Andy  T.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-16 by Bruce Daily

Because the 'Tron never worked to his expectations when spun upside-down?
 
      
 
   -Burce D.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: william Beith 
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com 
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass



One queston I never asked Emerson when I interviewed him for a magazine- Why did he never use a mellotron?
 
Anyone know if he ever answered this?
 
Bill


'Cos it's almost impossible to show off on one?  :-)
 
Andy T.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-16 by john barrick

You mean they're supposed to sit upright?  Maybe that's been my problem...


Bruce Daily wrote:
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> Because the 'Tron never worked to his expectations when spun upside-down?
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>      
>  
>    -Burce D.
>
>

Re: Steinberger bass

2010-02-17 by ClayE

No...When he stuck the knives in the keys they still only plated for 8 seconds.

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> --- On Tue, 2/16/10, Andy Thompson <andy.thompson@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Andy Thompson <andy.thompson@...>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 4:10 AM
> 
> 
> Â  
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Â 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: william Beith 
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com 
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 1:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Steinberger bass
> 
> 
> 
> One queston I never asked Emerson when I interviewed him for a magazine- Why did he never use a mellotron?
> Â 
> Anyone know if he ever answered this?
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> 
> 'Cos it's almost impossible to show off on one?  :-)
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