The Mellotron Group

Andy, did you really call it that?
 
 
In a message dated 1/13/2010 1:45:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
lsf5275@aol.com writes:

Does anyone on either of these lists think this CD is "the holy grail"  for 
Mellotron enthusiasts? This is how Jasun markets it. I think it's a  
colossal waste of time. There are a few interesting passages, beyond  that,

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Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Jasun Martz's "The Pillory"

Andy, did you really call it that?

Does anyone on either of these lists think this CD is "the holy grail" for Mellotron enthusiasts? This is how Jasun markets it. I think it's a colossal waste of time. There are a few interesting passages, beyond that,

Er, 'almost the holy grail', I think. :-) If you're looking for pure, unadulterated Mellotron and lots of it, it's hard to beat... Whether or not anyone likes it is another matter. :-) I didn't realise he'd carefully edited my remark and was using it to promote the album!

Andy T.

Andy Thompson wrote:

> *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: Jasun Martz's "The Pillory"
> 
> Andy, did you really call it that?
> 
> Does anyone on either of these lists think this CD is "the holy 
> grail" for Mellotron enthusiasts? This is how Jasun markets it. I 
> think it's a colossal waste of time. There are a few interesting 
> passages, beyond that,
> 
> Er, 'almost the holy grail', I think.  :-)   If you're looking for 
> pure, unadulterated Mellotron and lots of it, it's hard to beat... 
> Whether or not anyone likes it is another matter.  :-)   I didn't 
> realise he'd carefully edited my remark and was using it to promote
>  the album!
> 
> Andy T.

I have it. I quite like it. But it's reputation is far in excess of
what it delivers in terms of being a "holy grail" of 'tron albums.
[tongue in cheek] Everyone knows that prize legitimately goes to our
first album [snicker].
-- 
Cheers, SDM -- a 21st Century Schizoid Man
Systems Theory project website: www.systemstheory.net
find us on MySpace, GarageBand, Reverb Nation, Last FM, CDBaby
free MP3s of Systems Theory, Mike Dickson & Greg Amov music at 
www.mikedickson.org.uk

I thought the flower kings had made the holy grail of mellotron albums ?

 // Mattias

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  From: sdavmor 
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  Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Jasun Martz's "The Pillory"


    
  Andy Thompson wrote:

  > *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Re: Jasun Martz's "The Pillory"
  > 
  > Andy, did you really call it that?
  > 
  > Does anyone on either of these lists think this CD is "the holy 
  > grail" for Mellotron enthusiasts? This is how Jasun markets it. I 
  > think it's a colossal waste of time. There are a few interesting 
  > passages, beyond that,
  > 
  > Er, 'almost the holy grail', I think. :-) If you're looking for 
  > pure, unadulterated Mellotron and lots of it, it's hard to beat... 
  > Whether or not anyone likes it is another matter. :-) I didn't 
  > realise he'd carefully edited my remark and was using it to promote
  > the album!
  > 
  > Andy T.

  I have it. I quite like it. But it's reputation is far in excess of
  what it delivers in terms of being a "holy grail" of 'tron albums.
  [tongue in cheek] Everyone knows that prize legitimately goes to our
  first album [snicker].
  -- 
  Cheers, SDM -- a 21st Century Schizoid Man
  Systems Theory project website: www.systemstheory.net
  find us on MySpace, GarageBand, Reverb Nation, Last FM, CDBaby
  free MP3s of Systems Theory, Mike Dickson & Greg Amov music at 
  www.mikedickson.org.uk

On Jan 13, 2010, at 12:36 PM, sdavmor wrote:

> I have it. I quite like it. But it's reputation is far in excess of
> what it delivers in terms of being a "holy grail" of 'tron albums.
> [tongue in cheek] Everyone knows that prize legitimately goes to our
> first album [snicker].

Actually, System Theory's first album aside, what is the holy grail of mellotron albums?

And so, let the fighting begin...

Rick

If you're looking for pure, unadulterated Mellotron and lots of it, it's hard to beat...

Rick Blechta wrote:
> 
> On Jan 13, 2010, at 12:36 PM, sdavmor wrote:
> 
>> I have it. I quite like it. But it's reputation is far in excess
>> of what it delivers in terms of being a "holy grail" of 'tron
>> albums. [tongue in cheek] Everyone knows that prize legitimately
>> goes to our first album [snicker].
> 
> Actually, System Theory's first album aside, what /is/ the holy
> grail of mellotron albums?
> 
> And so, let the fighting begin...
> 
> Rick

Such a nice full-toss there for me to, Rick...

...that would Systems Theory's 2nd album! [ducks]
-- 
Cheers, SDM -- a 21st Century Schizoid Man
Systems Theory project website: www.systemstheory.net
find us on MySpace, GarageBand, Reverb Nation, Last FM, CDBaby
free MP3s of Systems Theory, Mike Dickson & Greg Amov music at 
www.mikedickson.org.uk

Mike Dickson wrote:
>  
> 
> Andy Thompson wrote:
>>
>>     If you're looking for pure, unadulterated Mellotron and lots of
>>     it, it's hard to beat...
> 
> *cough* *cough* /mellotronworks /*cough* *cough*

Oh you shameless self-promoting hussy! :-)
-- 
Cheers, SDM -- a 21st Century Schizoid Man
Systems Theory project website: www.systemstheory.net
find us on MySpace, GarageBand, Reverb Nation, Last FM, CDBaby
free MP3s of Systems Theory, Mike Dickson & Greg Amov music at 
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  From: Mattias Olsson 
  To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 5:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Jasun Martz's "The Pillory"


   


  I thought the flower kings had made the holy grail of mellotron albums ?

   // Mattias


  Ouuuuuuch... :-))

That would be hard to deny.
 
 
In a message dated 1/13/2010 12:44:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
mike.dickson@gmail.com writes:

*cough* *cough* mellotronworks *cough* *cough*

On Jan 13, 2010, at 1:00 PM, lsf5275@aol.com wrote:

> That would be hard to deny.
>  
> In a message dated 1/13/2010 12:44:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mike.dickson@gmail.com writes:
> *cough* *cough* mellotronworks *cough* *cough* 

I'm up to the challenge! I deny it!!

;)

You can't get more Mellotrony than with a whole CD of nothing but Mellotron 
 (and a few sampled drums). Perhaps Mike could record the theme to 
"Camelot,"  or to Monty Python and the Holy Grail and we could call them the Holy 
Grail  of Mellotron whatever.
 
 
In a message dated 1/13/2010 1:01:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
lsf5275@aol.com writes:

 
 
 
That would be hard to deny.
 
 
In a message dated 1/13/2010 12:44:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
mike.dickson@In a message date

*cough* *cough* mellotronworks *cough* *cough*

lsf5275@aol.com wrote:
> 
> 
> You can't get more Mellotrony than with a whole CD of nothing but 
> Mellotron (and a few sampled drums). Perhaps Mike could record the
> theme to "Camelot," or to Monty Python and the Holy Grail and we
> could call them the Holy Grail of Mellotron whatever.

cue "I have to play the 'tron-a-lot!"
-- 
Cheers, SDM -- a 21st Century Schizoid Man
Systems Theory project website: www.systemstheory.net
find us on MySpace, GarageBand, Reverb Nation, Last FM, CDBaby
free MP3s of Systems Theory, Mike Dickson & Greg Amov music at 
www.mikedickson.org.uk

Ni!, icky icky

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[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:09 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Jasun Martz's
"The Pillory"


  

You can't get more Mellotrony than with a whole CD of nothing but
Mellotron (and a few sampled drums). Perhaps Mike could record the theme
to "Camelot," or to Monty Python and the Holy Grail and we could call
them the Holy Grail of Mellotron whatever.

I have to check. Currently, my Pepsi is sitting on it.
 
 
In a message dated 1/13/2010 1:40:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
mike.dickson@gmail.com writes:

Isn't  there a bit in 'The Pillory' where they go Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni!  
Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni! Ni! for about ten  minutes?

Pomeroy RH Ranch wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes – aside from all the incredible work by the FOML* (many 
> humbling bows to you excellent arteurs), I would vote for the Ethos
>  Ardour album – two keyboardists: one with a Mellotron and one with
>  a Chamberlin – and awash with sounds, including the winner of the 
> coveted Tronny in the category of Best Use of the Chamberlin Female
>  Voice sound…

For a second there I though you'd said wash and tranny in the same
sentence. The mind boggles.

> Vance
> 
> *(friends of the Mellotron list)

There's a lot of good things about Ethos "Ardour", though Mike will no
doubt want to hit someone after exposure to its unabashed bright-eyed
utopian silliness (right up there with Jon Anderson, just a bit more
intelligible).
-- 
Cheers, SDM -- a 21st Century Schizoid Man
Systems Theory project website: www.systemstheory.net
find us on MySpace, GarageBand, Reverb Nation, Last FM, CDBaby
free MP3s of Systems Theory, Mike Dickson & Greg Amov music at 
www.mikedickson.org.uk

That's the first time I can remember anyone mentioning Ethos on this list!
Great band- saw them live back in the day.

 

Regards,

 

Jim Parthun

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Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:11 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Jasun Martz's "The
Pillory"

 

  

Yes - aside from all the incredible work by the FOML* (many humbling bows to
you excellent arteurs), I would vote for the Ethos Ardour album - two
keyboardists: one with a Mellotron and one with a Chamberlin - and awash
with sounds, including the winner of the coveted Tronny in the category of
Best Use of the Chamberlin Female Voice sound.

 

Vance

 

*(friends of the Mellotron list)

 

 

That would be hard to deny.

 

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Pomeroy RH Ranch wrote:
> 
> 
> That would have been cool – did they have the twin keyboardist
> set-up? The second album was fairly tron-less…

Twin keyboardist setup on the first Ethos album. Only one keyboard
player on the second.
-- 
Cheers, SDM -- a 21st Century Schizoid Man
Systems Theory project website: www.systemstheory.net
find us on MySpace, GarageBand, Reverb Nation, Last FM, CDBaby
free MP3s of Systems Theory, Mike Dickson & Greg Amov music at 
www.mikedickson.org.uk

Identical or fraternal?
 
 
In a message dated 1/13/2010 7:28:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
sdavmor@systemstheory.net writes:

Twin  keyboardist setup on the first Ethos  album.

No, I think it was Richelieu. 
 
 
In a message dated 1/13/2010 7:54:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
tspit74@comcast.net writes:

And he played a Chamberlain,  right?

Daniel Swanson wrote:
>  
> 
> And he played a Chamberlain, right?
> 
> On Jan 13, 2010, at 6:27 PM, sdavmor wrote:
> 
>> Pomeroy RH Ranch wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > That would have been cool – did they have the twin keyboardist
>> > set-up? The second album was fairly tron-less…
>>
>> Twin keyboardist setup on the first Ethos album. Only one keyboard
>> player on the second.

I don't recall which one played the 'tron and which one the chamby.
-- 
Cheers, SDM -- a 21st Century Schizoid Man
Systems Theory project website: www.systemstheory.net
find us on MySpace, GarageBand, Reverb Nation, Last FM, CDBaby
free MP3s of Systems Theory, Mike Dickson & Greg Amov music at 
www.mikedickson.org.uk

Daniel Swanson wrote:
>  
> 
> And he played a Chamberlain, right?
> 
> On Jan 13, 2010, at 6:27 PM, sdavmor wrote:
> 
>> Pomeroy RH Ranch wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > That would have been cool – did they have the twin keyboardist
>> > set-up? The second album was fairly tron-less…
>>
>> Twin keyboardist setup on the first Ethos album. Only one keyboard
>> player on the second.

I don't recall which one played the 'tron and which one the chamby.
-- 
Cheers, SDM -- a 21st Century Schizoid Man
Systems Theory project website: www.systemstheory.net
find us on MySpace, GarageBand, Reverb Nation, Last FM, CDBaby
free MP3s of Systems Theory, Mike Dickson & Greg Amov music at 
www.mikedickson.org.uk

Sadly, the Ethos I saw had only Michael Ponczek on keys live as Duncan
Hammond had left the band. As I recall, Ponczek live, played the Chamberlin
(although I had no idea what a Chamberlin was in 1978 or 9), Polymoog, Mini
Moog and probably a B3 and Rhodes and guitarist Wil Sharpe played an M400 on
occasion.  I remember speaking to Wil after the gig about the Mellotron as I
was a fanatic for anything Mellotron related in those days. Nice guy and
great band.

 

Regards,

 

Jim Parthun

Parthun Enterprises, Inc.

630/968-8731 Office

630/968-8732 Fax

630/533-8340 Cellular

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Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:00 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Jasun Martz's "The
Pillory"

 

  

That would have been cool - did they have the twin keyboardist set-up? The
second album was fairly tron-less.

 

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Pillory"

 

  

That's the first time I can remember anyone mentioning Ethos on this list!
Great band- saw them live back in the day.

 

Regards,

 

Jim Parthun

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Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Jasun Martz's "The
Pillory"

 

  

Yes - aside from all the incredible work by the FOML* (many humbling bows to
you excellent arteurs), I would vote for the Ethos Ardour album - two
keyboardists: one with a Mellotron and one with a Chamberlin - and awash
with sounds, including the winner of the coveted Tronny in the category of
Best Use of the Chamberlin Female Voice sound.

 

Vance

 

*(friends of the Mellotron list)

 

 

That would be hard to deny.

 

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nice one

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, lsf5275@... wrote:

>
> No, I think it was Richelieu. 
>  
>  
> In a message dated 1/13/2010 7:54:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> tspit74@... writes:
> 
> And he played a Chamberlain,  right?
>

Fort Wayne is correct- but when I saw them they were living in L.A. I think
they said.

 

Regards,

 

Jim Parthun

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Sent: Wednesday, January 13, 2010 7:07 PM
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Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Jasun Martz's "The
Pillory"

 

  

I've got both Ethos albums on vinyl. They were from Fort Wayne, weren't
they?

On Jan 13, 2010, at 5:13 PM, James Parthun wrote:





 

That's the first time I can remember anyone mentioning Ethos on this list!
Great band- saw them live back in the day.

 

Regards,

 

Jim Parthun

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Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: [Mellotronists] Re: Jasun Martz's "The
Pillory"

 

 

Yes - aside from all the incredible work by the FOML* (many humbling bows to
you excellent arteurs), I would vote for the Ethos Ardour album - two
keyboardists: one with a Mellotron and one with a Chamberlin - and awash
with sounds, including the winner of the coveted Tronny in the category of
Best Use of the Chamberlin Female Voice sound.

 

Vance

 

*(friends of the Mellotron list)

 

 

That would be hard to deny.

 

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mike.dickson@gmail.com writes:

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Steve,
I have that lp and always loved it.
Pete

sdavmor wrote:

>
> There's a lot of good things about Ethos "Ardour", though Mike will no
> doubt want to hit someone after exposure to its unabashed bright-eyed
> utopian silliness (right up there with Jon Anderson, just a bit more
> intelligible).
>