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Fwd: [Mellotronists] Another eBay Tron

Fwd: [Mellotronists] Another eBay Tron

2009-12-24 by fdoddy@aol.com


It's always an interesting discussion. Those formats are not dead, they're just not as popular for those with no sense of delayed gratification. Digital is wonderful as a "professional" format. Instead of allowing it to be a case of semantics, i.e. "dead", I think it's more accurate to view them as legacy formats, still being used, but not profitable for the manufacturers of gear or the media professional trying to kick projects out the door faster then ever. If everyone has the same sample rate, bit depth, libraries, plug ins, what sets you apart?

I grew up on tape, and I'll never go back to using it as a robust recording format, but damn if I don't know how to use it as a processor. Working with tape is about logic, process, problem solving. Digital is not, and I am facile on both.

I do agree with you on VHS, just the worst thing ever invented. Helical scan piece of crap!


fritz


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From: Tony Valone <stuffoncraigslist@yahoo.com>
To: lsf5275@aol.com; newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com; Mellotronists@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2009 12:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Another eBay Tron

im sorry to piss you off... but i'm part of the ipod generation. there is reason why cassette tapes, 8-track, reel-to-reel, vhs, etc. all died as a format. digital is the way to go.
206-600-5900 cell


From: "lsf5275@aol. com" <lsf5275@aol. com>
To: stuffoncraigslist@ yahoo.com; newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com; Mellotronists@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, December 24, 2009 12:03:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Another eBay Tron

Screw off. Memontrons are for sissies. Mellotrons are reliable. Many of the people that have owned them are not.
In a message dated 12/24/2009 10:59:52 A.M.. Eastern Standard Time, stuffoncraigslist@ yahoo.com writes:
forget that junk go digital get a memotron with all the tape banks they ever made on one machine. why bother being stuck with three and an unreliable machine you have to fix more than a Ford Pickup Truck.

Fwd: [Mellotronists] Another eBay Tron

2009-12-24 by fdoddy@aol.com

Samples are fine. They will react with amazing consistency. A mellotron forces you to think about what you are saying and plan accordingly. It allows you to arrange in different way, with limitations. Instead of just smelling like a tron (which they don't actually as trons have their own smell...old tape) it FEELS like a tron part or performance. Playing the thing is a tactile event. Real piano versus sampled piano. Modeled analog versus real analog. It depends on what you are going after. If God is in the details, as the Amish say, then a real tron is for you. I enjoy just playing the thing. Many times I will arrange parts with tron samples only to find that they evolve when I go to track with the real thing. A Memotron isn't perfect, it's consistent and that's not for me.

fritz


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Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2009 12:20 pm
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Another eBay Tron

seriously i went to a recording studio in parsippany i think it was and this guy brought it with him, with the ease of a menu he could blend sad strings with flutes, cello, then change his mind and load vox humana instead. the thing was amazing, weighed 40 lb, size of a 1980's yamaha keyboard. Memotron is the name of the unit had control knobs just like the original, even had reverb which the other didnt. he told me he imported all the sounds from m-tron software so he had a bank of 100+ sounds ever made even had novatron or birotron forget which one it was.
206-600-5900 cell


From: "fdoddy@aol. com" <fdoddy@aol.com>
To: stuffoncraigslist@ yahoo.com
Sent: Thu, December 24, 2009 11:58:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Another eBay Tron

Oh, how you taunt the weak!


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From: Tony Valone <stuffoncraigslist@ yahoo.com>
To: lsf5275@aol. com; ;
Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2009 10:59 am
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Another eBay Tron

forget that junk go digital get a memotron with all the tape banks they ever made on one machine. why bother being stuck with three and an unreliable machine you have to fix more than a Ford Pickup Truck.
206-600-5900 cell


From: "lsf5275@aol. com" <lsf5275@aol. com>
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com; Mellotronists@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 8:29:46 PM
Subject: [Mellotronists] Another eBay Tron

Notice the second photo... no feet. It appears to be floating in air. The pictures look photo shopped to me.


Re: [newmellotrongroup] Fwd: [Mellotronists] Another eBay Tron

2009-12-25 by Chris Dale

To my knowledge Sad Strings isn't in the Memotron library, Vox Humana is an Optigan disc (according to my Montgomery Wards model), Novatron sounds are the same as Mellotron sounds, and the 4 Birotron sounds (sampled at the wrong motor speed and essentially useless) don't make up a library.

On 12/25/09, fdoddy@aol.com <fdoddy@aol.com> wrote:

seriously i went to a recording studio in parsippany i think it was and this guy brought it with him, with the ease of a menu he could blend sad strings with flutes, cello, then change his mind and load vox humana instead. the thing was amazing, weighed 40 lb, size of a 1980's yamaha keyboard. Memotron is the name of the unit had control knobs just like the original, even had reverb which the other didnt. he told me he imported all the sounds from m-tron software so he had a bank of 100+ sounds ever made even had novatron or birotron forget which one it was.
206-600-5900 cell


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From: "fdoddy@aol.com" <fdoddy@aol.com>
To: stuffoncraigslist@yahoo.com
Sent: Thu, December 24, 2009 11:58:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Another eBay Tron

Oh, how you taunt the weak!


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Valone <stuffoncraigslist@yahoo.com>
To: lsf5275@aol.com; ;
Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2009 10:59 am
Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Another eBay Tron
forget that junk go digital get a memotron with all the tape banks they ever made on one machine. why bother being stuck with three and an unreliable machine you have to fix more than a Ford Pickup Truck.
206-600-5900 cell


From: "lsf5275@aol. com" <lsf5275@aol. com>
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com; Mellotronists@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wed, December 23, 2009 8:29:46 PM
Subject: [Mellotronists] Another eBay Tron

Notice the second photo... no feet. It appears to be floating in air. The pictures look photo shopped to me.



Re: Fwd: [Mellotronists] Another eBay Tron

2009-12-25 by Tron400

As far as I know, the Memotron sounds all come from the M-Tron library. There is a Sad Stings in M-Tron, but it sounds like it's from one of the Rhythms and Fills. It only covers about one and a half octaves.

http://www.leisureland.us/audio/sadstrings.wav

Bernie

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--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...> wrote:
>
> To my knowledge Sad Strings isn't in the Memotron library, Vox Humana is an
> Optigan disc (according to my Montgomery Wards model), Novatron sounds are
> the same as Mellotron sounds, and the 4 Birotron sounds (sampled at the
> wrong motor speed and essentially useless) don't make up a library.
>
>
>
> On 12/25/09, fdoddy@... <fdoddy@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > seriously i went to a recording studio in parsippany i think it was
> > and this guy brought it with him, with the ease of a menu he could blend sad
> > strings with flutes, cello, then change his mind and load vox humana
> > instead. the thing was amazing, weighed 40 lb, size of a 1980's yamaha
> > keyboard. Memotron is the name of the unit had control knobs just like the
> > original, even had reverb which the other didnt. he told me he imported all
> > the sounds from m-tron software so he had a bank of 100+ sounds ever made
> > even had novatron or birotron forget which one it was.
> >
> > 206-600-5900 cell
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* "fdoddy@..." <fdoddy@...>
> > *To:* stuffoncraigslist@...
> > *Sent:* Thu, December 24, 2009 11:58:01 AM
> > *Subject:* Re: [Mellotronists] Another eBay Tron
> >
> > Oh, how you taunt the weak!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Valone <stuffoncraigslist@...>
> > To: lsf5275@...; ;
> > Sent: Thu, Dec 24, 2009 10:59 am
> > Subject: Re: [Mellotronists] Another eBay Tron
> >
> >
> > forget that junk go digital get a memotron with all the tape banks they
> > ever made on one machine. why bother being stuck with three and an
> > unreliable machine you have to fix more than a Ford Pickup Truck.
> >
> > 206-600-5900 cell
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* "lsf5275@aol. com" <lsf5275@aol. com>
> > *To:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com; Mellotronists@ yahoogroups. com
> > *Sent:* Wed, December 23, 2009 8:29:46 PM
> > *Subject:* [Mellotronists] Another eBay Tron
> >
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay com/Mellotron- MK400-vintage- analog-electroni
> > c-keyboard_ W0QQitemZ1804479 46442QQcmdZViewI temQQptZKeyboard s_MIDI?hash=
> > item2a038926ca<http://cgi.ebay.com/Mellotron-MK400-vintage-analog-electronic-keyboard_W0QQitemZ180447946442QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKeyboards_MIDI?hash=item2a038926ca>
> >
> >
> >
> > Notice the second photo... no feet. It appears to be floating in air. The
> > pictures look photo shopped to me.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>