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Re: [newmellotrongroup] I washed my tron last night and now I can't do a thin...

Re: [newmellotrongroup] I washed my tron last night and now I can't do a thin...

2009-09-30 by lsf5275@aol.com

Yes, restored ones are very consistent, as is the M4000.
 
Frank 
 
 
In a message dated 9/30/2009 2:41:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
markpringnz@yahoo.com writes:

Is  this just because it hasn't been fully restored or do newer restored 
trons do  the same thing. Having read Mike's info on his website I know that 
mine isn't  the only one to do this. Does the M4000 always play  perfectly?

Re: [newmellotrongroup] I washed my tron last night and now I can't do a thin...

2009-09-30 by lsf5275@aol.com

In a message dated 9/30/2009 4:18:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
markpringnz@yahoo.com writes:

Mike,  do you still have a CM10 in your tron? I have exactly the same 
tuning problems  with my tron and had thought it was due to the CM10. Being 
12,000 miles from  help and mechanically challenged I decided to put up with it 
rather install  the new card and then possibly a  new motor.
 
 
Mark,
 
Get a SMS-2 or SMS-5 and a seamless belt from Streetly and be done with it. 
 Also make sure the belt tension is right. A little too much will lead to 
pitch  drift and a not quite enough will do the same. Installing an SMS board 
and  rewiring the power supply is a piece of cake. Your motor is most 
probably good  enough. The difference will be amazing.
 
Frank
 
 

          
See all this  crap?
   
Once you install the  SMS board you can get rid of it all except these two  
capacitors. I have since replaced them because they were  leaking.
   
And look how clean the  power supply looks now?
   
I  also ditched the PAL connector and replaced it with a nice gold  plated 
RCA connector after this photo was  taken
   
While your there,  replace the Bulgin with a standard IEC mains  socket.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] I washed my tron last night and now I can't do a thin...

2009-09-30 by Mark Pring

I know you are right Frank , I did manage to wire in a standard socket but trust me if I attempted the CM10 and belt change I would be swapping a tron which works reasonably well for one that didn't work at all!
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--- On Thu, 10/1/09, lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:

From: lsf5275@aol.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] I washed my tron last night and now I can't do a thin...
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 10:33 AM

In a message dated 9/30/2009 4:18:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, markpringnz@yahoo.com writes:
Mike, do you still have a CM10 in your tron? I have exactly the same tuning problems with my tron and had thought it was due to the CM10. Being 12,000 miles from help and mechanically challenged I decided to put up with it rather install the new card and then possibly a new motor.
Mark,
Get a SMS-2 or SMS-5 and a seamless belt from Streetly and be done with it. Also make sure the belt tension is right. A little too much will lead to pitch drift and a not quite enough will do the same. Installing an SMS board and rewiring the power supply is a piece of cake. Your motor is most probably good enough. The difference will be amazing.
Frank
See all this crap?
Once you install the SMS board you can get rid of it all except these two capacitors. I have since replaced them because they were leaking.
And look how clean the power supply looks now?
I also ditched the PAL connector and replaced it with a nice gold plated RCA connector after this photo was taken
While your there, replace the Bulgin with a standard IEC mains socket.


Re: [newmellotrongroup] I washed my tron last night and now I can't do a thin...

2009-09-30 by lsf5275@aol.com

Not true Mark. I can walk you right through the process. It's a piece of  
cake. You don't have to remove the other capacitors, although they are 
rendered  useless by the SMS board. All of the modifications can be done in about 
20  minutes. Modifying the power supply will have no effect on the preamp or 
any  other components and you won't fry anything. Mellotrons are amazingly 
simple,  but even if you don't understand what you're doing, as long as you 
follow simple  instructions, nothing will go wrong. You are not going to 
break or damage  anything.
 
I have walked a lot of folks on our list through all kinds of improvements  
on there machines and once done, what originally seemed complicated and 
risky  worked out just fine.
 
 
In a message dated 9/30/2009 6:29:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
markpringnz@yahoo.com writes:

I did  manage to wire in a standard socket but trust me if I attempted the 
CM10 and  belt change I would be swapping a tron which works  reasonably 
well for  one  that didn't work at  all!

Re: [newmellotrongroup] I washed my tron last night and now I can't do a thin...

2009-09-30 by Mark Pring

Thanks Frank, I might be having second thoughts, I'll contact you off list if I build up sufficient courage.

Cheers

Mark

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From: lsf5275@aol.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] I washed my tron last night and now I can't do a thin...
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 1, 2009, 11:37 AM

Not true Mark. I can walk you right through the process. It's a piece of cake. You don't have to remove the other capacitors, although they are rendered useless by the SMS board. All of the modifications can be done in about 20 minutes. Modifying the power supply will have no effect on the preamp or any other components and you won't fry anything. Mellotrons are amazingly simple, but even if you don't understand what you're doing, as long as you follow simple instructions, nothing will go wrong. You are not going to break or damage anything.
I have walked a lot of folks on our list through all kinds of improvements on there machines and once done, what originally seemed complicated and risky worked out just fine.
In a message dated 9/30/2009 6:29:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, markpringnz@ yahoo.com writes:
I did manage to wire in a standard socket but trust me if I attempted the CM10 and belt change I would be swapping a tron which works reasonably well for one that didn't work at all!