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Will an M400 fit in a 2001 Subaru Forester?

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Will an M400 fit in a 2001 Subaru Forester?

2009-06-26 by lsf5275@aol.com

No, the joke is, " How do you get a Mellotron to fit in a 2001 Subaru Forester? The answer is... Throw it down the stairs first...
Bwahahahahahahaha.
In a message dated 6/25/2009 10:35:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tspit74@comcast.net writes:
with the seats down? I should know this before I drive 500 miles to pick it up. Thanks!

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Will an M400 fit in a 2001 Subaru Forester?

2009-06-26 by john barrick

The standard M400 dimensions are: 34" high, 34" wide, and 22" deep. I
have no idea what the doors will admit (or what the available volume is)
on a 2001 Subaru Forester. I've seen it recommended that you remove the
keyboard from the cabinet and tie down the headblock so it doesn't
travel back and forth laterally while you're driving. I did both of
these things on my 500 mile trip and it worked out just fine. If you
really run into space trouble, remember you can shave three or four
inches off the height measurement by removing the little black feet.
Bring an adjustable wrench with you.
have a good trip.
john barrick

PS bring along some foam or blankets to wrap the keyboard up in.



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> with the seats down? I should know this before I drive 500 miles to
> pick it up. Thanks!
>
> -Dan
> #854 (on Saturday)
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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Will an M400 fit in a 2001 Subaru Forester?

2009-06-26 by djacques@csulb.edu

My Mellotron was delivered to me in the back of an open chicken truck.

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From: lsf5275@aol.com
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:45:06 EDT
To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Will an M400 fit in a 2001 Subaru Forester?

In truth, it should fit. It's a little station wagon /SUV right?
In a message dated 6/25/2009 10:35:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tspit74@comcast. net writes:


with the seats down? I should know this before I drive 500 miles to pick it up. Thanks!

-Dan
#854 (on Saturday)

Re: Will an M400 fit in a 2001 Subaru Forester?

2009-06-26 by DaSwans

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <astroboy@...> wrote:
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>
> The standard M400 dimensions are: 34" high, 34" wide, and 22" deep. I
> have no idea what the doors will admit (or what the available volume is)
> on a 2001 Subaru Forester. I've seen it recommended that you remove the
> keyboard from the cabinet and tie down the headblock so it doesn't
> travel back and forth laterally while you're driving. I did both of
> these things on my 500 mile trip and it worked out just fine. If you
> really run into space trouble, remember you can shave three or four
> inches off the height measurement by removing the little black feet.
> Bring an adjustable wrench with you.
> have a good trip.
> john barrick
>
> PS bring along some foam or blankets to wrap the keyboard up in.
>
>
>
> DaSwans wrote:
> >
> >
> > with the seats down? I should know this before I drive 500 miles to
> > pick it up. Thanks!
> >
> > -Dan
> > #854 (on Saturday)
> >
> >
>
Okay. Dumb noob question: Which part exactly is the head block?

Thanks for the dimensions and the tip about taking off the feet. I'll probably lay it down on it's back. Anything else I need to know about transporting it? It does have it's original protect-o-muff (tron bondage). That should protect the lovely brushed on latex paint job it received at some point.

How important is the tape box cover (the aluminum thing that the tapes roll into when they're played)? I see it missing in a lot of pictures and the tron I'm buying is missing it. It seems like one could be made relatively easily (unless, of course, somebody out there has a spare). I'm sure the cover will be the least of my problems, however. I'm just thinking out loud and taking mental inventory of the project ahead.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Will an M400 fit in a 2001 Subaru Forester?

2009-06-26 by john barrick

The headblock is the piece with all the playback heads on it. It moves
laterally when you turn the track selector knob from a to b to c. I
just tied mine down with a couple of bread twistys. You'll want to
bring along a 1/2" inch socket wrench to remove the feet. The bolt
heads are sunk about two inches into the bottom of the feet. If you have
enough room, you obviously don't need to mess with it. It should lay
down on its back just fine - mine did. I think Ken Leonard transported
his that way in his Accura hatchback. One thing about the keyboard.
After you wrap it up, lay it down flat upside down (keys down, pressure
pads up) as you don't want to bend the pressure pad arms.

Playing without a spill box lid is inviting trouble. I've left it off
accidentally before, and tapes tend to stick (not return properly) and
sometimes they don't even go into the spill box but pile up on top
instead, which is just asking for a snag or tangle. You should be able
to acquire one from Streetly or Mellotron Archives, or I believe that at
least one person on the list has made a couple.

And while driving, allow yourself the luxury of imaging that other
drivers are wondering whether or not you're carrying a Mellotron in the
back.
best,
john barrick

PS - I also found it convenient to remove the tape frame, wrap it up in
a sheet or blanket and lay it down flat also.


DaSwans wrote:
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>
>
>
> >
> Okay. Dumb noob question: Which part exactly is the head block?
>
> Thanks for the dimensions and the tip about taking off the feet. I'll
> probably lay it down on it's back. Anything else I need to know about
> transporting it? It does have it's original protect-o-muff (tron
> bondage). That should protect the lovely brushed on latex paint job it
> received at some point.
>
> How important is the tape box cover (the aluminum thing that the tapes
> roll into when they're played)? I see it missing in a lot of pictures
> and the tron I'm buying is missing it. It seems like one could be made
> relatively easily (unless, of course, somebody out there has a spare).
> I'm sure the cover will be the least of my problems, however. I'm just
> thinking out loud and taking mental inventory of the project ahead.
>
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Will an M400 fit in a 2001 Subaru Forester?

2009-06-26 by Daniel Swanson

Awesome, John. I printed out your comments and will use them as a checklist. Thanks!
-Dan
On Jun 25, 2009, at 11:45 PM, john barrick wrote:

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The headblock is the piece with all the playback heads on it. It moves
laterally when you turn the track selector knob from a to b to c. I
just tied mine down with a couple of bread twistys. You'll want to
bring along a 1/2" inch socket wrench to remove the feet. The bolt
heads are sunk about two inches into the bottom of the feet. If you have
enough room, you obviously don't need to mess with it. It should lay
down on its back just fine - mine did. I think Ken Leonard transported
his that way in his Accura hatchback. One thing about the keyboard.
After you wrap it up, lay it down flat upside down (keys down, pressure
pads up) as you don't want to bend the pressure pad arms.

Playing without a spill box lid is inviting trouble. I've left it off
accidentally before, and tapes tend to stick (not return properly) and
sometimes they don't even go into the spill box but pile up on top
instead, which is just asking for a snag or tangle. You should be able
to acquire one from Streetly or Mellotron Archives, or I believe that at
least one person on the list has made a couple.

And while driving, allow yourself the luxury of imaging that other
drivers are wondering whether or not you're carrying a Mellotron in the
back.
best,
john barrick

PS - I also found it convenient to remove the tape frame, wrap it up in
a sheet or blanket and lay it down flat also.

DaSwans wrote:
>
>
>
> >
> Okay. Dumb noob question: Which part exactly is the head block?
>
> Thanks for the dimensions and the tip about taking off the feet. I'll
> probably lay it down on it's back. Anything else I need to know about
> transporting it? It does have it's original protect-o-muff (tron
> bondage). That should protect the lovely brushed on latex paint job it
> received at some point.
>
> How important is the tape box cover (the aluminum thing that the tapes
> roll into when they're played)? I see it missing in a lot of pictures
> and the tron I'm buying is missing it. It seems like one could be made
> relatively easily (unless, of course, somebody out there has a spare).
> I'm sure the cover will be the least of my problems, however. I'm just
> thinking out loud and taking mental inventory of the project ahead.
>
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Will an M400 fit in a 2001 Subaru Forester?

2009-06-26 by john barrick

I think that one of Ken Leonard's Moneypit entries has a good section on
transporting your Mellotron. Also a section on
disassembling your tron. You should check it out before you go:

http://www.kleonard.com/mellotron/vt0303/start.htm

Not sure which year or month it's in, but it's well worth time to go
through them.
best,
john


Daniel Swanson wrote:
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>
> Awesome, John. I printed out your comments and will use them as a
> checklist. Thanks!
>
> -Dan
> On Jun 25, 2009, at 11:45 PM, john barrick wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> The headblock is the piece with all the playback heads on it. It moves
>> laterally when you turn the track selector knob from a to b to c. I
>> just tied mine down with a couple of bread twistys. You'll want to
>> bring along a 1/2" inch socket wrench to remove the feet. The bolt
>> heads are sunk about two inches into the bottom of the feet. If you have
>> enough room, you obviously don't need to mess with it. It should lay
>> down on its back just fine - mine did. I think Ken Leonard transported
>> his that way in his Accura hatchback. One thing about the keyboard.
>> After you wrap it up, lay it down flat upside down (keys down, pressure
>> pads up) as you don't want to bend the pressure pad arms.
>>
>> Playing without a spill box lid is inviting trouble. I've left it off
>> accidentally before, and tapes tend to stick (not return properly) and
>> sometimes they don't even go into the spill box but pile up on top
>> instead, which is just asking for a snag or tangle. You should be able
>> to acquire one from Streetly or Mellotron Archives, or I believe that at
>> least one person on the list has made a couple.
>>
>> And while driving, allow yourself the luxury of imaging that other
>> drivers are wondering whether or not you're carrying a Mellotron in the
>> back.
>> best,
>> john barrick
>>
>> PS - I also found it convenient to remove the tape frame, wrap it up in
>> a sheet or blanket and lay it down flat also.
>>
>> DaSwans wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > Okay. Dumb noob question: Which part exactly is the head block?
>> >
>> > Thanks for the dimensions and the tip about taking off the feet. I'll
>> > probably lay it down on it's back. Anything else I need to know about
>> > transporting it? It does have it's original protect-o-muff (tron
>> > bondage). That should protect the lovely brushed on latex paint job it
>> > received at some point.
>> >
>> > How important is the tape box cover (the aluminum thing that the tapes
>> > roll into when they're played)? I see it missing in a lot of pictures
>> > and the tron I'm buying is missing it. It seems like one could be made
>> > relatively easily (unless, of course, somebody out there has a spare).
>> > I'm sure the cover will be the least of my problems, however. I'm just
>> > thinking out loud and taking mental inventory of the project ahead.
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Will an M400 fit in a 2001 Subaru Forester?

2009-06-26 by Andy Thompson

----- Original Message -----
From: "DaSwans" <tspit74@comcast.net>
To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:34 AM
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Will an M400 fit in a 2001 Subaru Forester?


> with the seats down? I should know this before I drive 500 miles to pick
> it up. Thanks!
>
> -Dan
> #854 (on Saturday)


Dan

When I bought mine back in '85, I borrowed my mum's Ford Fiesta - looks like
this one:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/motors/316242/Car-pollution-cut-by-98.html

(apologies for the horrible site). It went in absolutely fine on its back. I
can get *two* M400s into my current vehicle:

http://www.tiscali.co.uk/motoring/galleries/view/motoring/10practicalcarsfor2000/browse/238261

They're a lot smaller than you think... Not lighter, though. :-) FWIW,
I've never bothered to take the tape frame out while transporting, or any of
the other 'must-dos', but then, I'm probably asking for trouble. :-)

Andy T.
M400 #1145

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Will an M400 fit in a 2001 Subaru Forester?

2009-06-26 by John Wright

Hi Dan,
Do you have the "Protect O Muff" cover. That will help avoid the minor bumps and nicks from man handling the Tron. I think it weighs about 120 pounds. As others have mentioned, store the tape rack and secure the keyboard. Good luck.
John
#911
PS I wonder if GM and Chrysler bankruptcy will allow for Tron portage in the new models?
PSS Other, non-Tron, for all you Univibe fans in the Midwest. Robin Trower is touring in the Midwest and is playing better than I've ever heard him.

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 10:45 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Will an M400 fit in a 2001 Subaru Forester?

In truth, it should fit. It's a little station wagon /SUV right?
In a message dated 6/25/2009 10:35:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tspit74@comcast. net writes:


with the seats down? I should know this before I drive 500 miles to pick it up. Thanks!

-Dan
#854 (on Saturday)

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Will an M400 fit in a 2001 Subaru Forester?

2009-06-26 by Rick Blechta


On Jun 26, 2009, at 2:02 AM, john barrick wrote:

I think that one of Ken Leonard's Moneypit entries has a good section on
transporting your Mellotron. Also a section on
disassembling your tron. You should check it out before you go:

http://www.kleonard .com/mellotron/ vt0303/start. htm

Not sure which year or month it's in, but it's well worth time to go
through them.
best,
john

If it were my mellotron, I'd talk to Martin Smith (TRONBROS@aol.com) to see if there's anything more you REALLY should know before you drive 500 miles with your instrument in pieces and the case on its back. There are certainly things you should know about what to check before you turn it on at home -- or you could wind up being rather sorry.

Rick

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Will an M400 fit in a 2001 Subaru Forester?

2009-06-26 by Bruce Daily

Hi Dan-
Congrats on getting the Mellotron, and welcome to the group!
In transporting the unit, I agree with removing the tapeframe. Then, the tape drawbar can be zip-tied to hold it on the frame, before it is wrapped in a blanket or bubble-wrap for transport.
Stabilize or remove the headblock, too.
Make sure the power supply screws are tight! You don't need the supply rolling around in the unit during transport. Power supply is the big gray metal thing in the bottom left side of the cabinet.
I hope the top cover has all its latches. If not, it may need to be removed or lashed in place. If the cover is removed, the cheek blocks should be removed & packed seperately, too. Cheek blocks are L & R of the keyboard.
Don't get TOO lost in Ken Leonard's website :-)
Enjoy your Mellotron! These things are a wonderful adventure.
-Bruce Daily
#1221

--- On Thu, 6/25/09, DaSwans <tspit74@comcast.net> wrote:
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From: DaSwans <tspit74@comcast.net>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Will an M400 fit in a 2001 Subaru Forester?
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 8:34 PM

with the seats down? I should know this before I drive 500 miles to pick it up. Thanks!

-Dan
#854 (on Saturday)