The Mellotron Group

My wife bought me a double CD of very early Genesis at "The Warehouse" for $1.50 NZ ( about 75c US). We were listening to Fireside Song, the strings come in and my wife says "there's the tron", now I don't think it is a tron and we have a $50 dollar bet on it. Anybody know for certain?

Mark

PS If I am wrong I will never hear the end of it.

Mark,
That's from the Genesis to Revelation lp-all orchestra put on after the
boys recorded their parts by producer Jonathan King.
Pete

Mark Pring wrote:

> My wife bought me a double CD of very early Genesis at "The Warehouse" for $1.50 NZ ( about 75c US). We were listening to Fireside Song, the strings come in and my wife says "there's the tron", now I don't think it is a tron and we have a $50 dollar bet on it. Anybody know for certain?
>
> Mark
>
> PS If I am wrong I will never hear the end of it.
>

My condolences, Mark.

Dan

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, marabus <marabus@...> wrote:
>
> Mark,
> That's from the Genesis to Revelation lp-all orchestra put on after the
> boys recorded their parts by producer Jonathan King.
> Pete
>
> Mark Pring wrote:
> > My wife bought me a double CD of very early Genesis at "The Warehouse" for $1.50 NZ ( about 75c US). We were listening to Fireside Song, the strings come in and my wife says "there's the tron", now I don't think it is a tron and we have a $50 dollar bet on it. Anybody know for certain?
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > PS If I am wrong I will never hear the end of it.
> >
>

Condolences? I am now $50 better off! That's 5 new pinch rollers for #1565.

--- On Thu, 3/5/09, Dan <dan_miso@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Dan <dan_miso@yahoo.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Genesis Fireside Song
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 3:05 AM

My condolences, Mark.

Dan

--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, marabus <marabus@... > wrote:
>
> Mark,
> That's from the Genesis to Revelation lp-all orchestra put on after the
> boys recorded their parts by producer Jonathan King.
> Pete
>
> Mark Pring wrote:
> > My wife bought me a double CD of very early Genesis at "The Warehouse" for $1.50 NZ ( about 75c US). We were listening to Fireside Song, the strings come in and my wife says "there's the tron", now I don't think it is a tron and we have a $50 dollar bet on it. Anybody know for certain?
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > PS If I am wrong I will never hear the end of it.
> >
>

I've just sat through this relentless dreck at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-5XNhzT0Cs and I think your wife is wrong. I can see why she thinks it's Tron, though; aside from the tuning of the Mk II strings, the other thing that might give it away a bit is the arrangement. It's pretty hard to see how anyone who could arrange music at all would have a string backing that's resolutely monophonic all the way through.

However, Jonathan King was and remains a piteously diseased childfucker and therefore probably not very musically talented either. The strings do not have that trademark shrieking Bb2 which makes me wonder about it, and as the song wibbles through Gminor and Fmajor it has plenty of opportunity to land on it. Of course it might be EQed off, but it doesn't sound like it, and really...listening to this twice was more than I could stand.

I may be wrong, as I'm listening to this through the monophonic lo-fi dream that is YouTube, but thankfully my record collection is free of this hideous nonsense. Christ. 'Confusion' rhymed with 'disillusion'. That's a rhyme crime ranking alongside 'leave/deceive' and 'arms/charms'.

Mike

Mark Pring wrote:

My wife bought me a double CD of very early Genesis at "The Warehouse" for $1.50 NZ ( about 75c US). We were listening to Fireside Song, the strings come in and my wife says "there's the tron", now I don't think it is a tron and we have a $50 dollar bet on it. Anybody know for certain?

Mark

PS If I am wrong I will never hear the end of it.

-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson
Or http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/

Mike Dickson wrote:

However, Jonathan King was and remains a piteously diseased childfucker and therefore probably not very musically talented either.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:20 AM, marabus <marabus@verizon.net> wrote:

Mark,
That's from the Genesis to Revelation lp-all orchestra put on after the
boys recorded their parts by producer Jonathan King.
Pete

Mark Pring wrote:
> My wife bought me a double CD of very early Genesis at "The Warehouse" for $1.50 NZ ( about 75c US). We were listening to Fireside Song, the strings come in and my wife says "there's the tron", now I don't think it is a tron and we have a $50 dollar bet on it. Anybody know for certain?
>
> Mark
>
> PS If I am wrong I will never hear the end of it.
>

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@...> wrote:

>
> I've just sat through this relentless dreck at
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-5XNhzT0Cs

Dreck is right. Jonathan King owns the rights to that material and he has released it about six times, trying to cash in. Probably the worst 1st album I can think of. Just try to stay awake listening to it Mark.

Clay

I think sleep might be preferable, they sound a bit like the Doors in places.

--- On Thu, 3/5/09, ceccles_ca <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:

From: ceccles_ca <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Genesis Fireside Song
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 2:09 PM

--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@ ...> wrote:
>
> I've just sat through this relentless dreck at
> http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=Z-5XNhzT0Cs

Dreck is right. Jonathan King owns the rights to that material and he has released it about six times, trying to cash in. Probably the worst 1st album I can think of. Just try to stay awake listening to it Mark.

Clay

No, No No, I said it wasn't a tron, I'm sure Mike is right, my wife has just admitted she was wrong, this doesn't happen every day I can tell you!

--- On Thu, 3/5/09, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Genesis Fireside Song
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 1:21 PM

An early issue of that album lists "mellotron" in the credits. So your saved.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:20 AM, marabus <marabus@verizon. net> wrote:

Mark,
That's from the Genesis to Revelation lp-all orchestra put on after the
boys recorded their parts by producer Jonathan King.
Pete

Mark Pring wrote:
> My wife bought me a double CD of very early Genesis at "The Warehouse" for $1.50 NZ ( about 75c US). We were listening to Fireside Song, the strings come in and my wife says "there's the tron", now I don't think it is a tron and we have a $50 dollar bet on it. Anybody know for certain?
>
> Mark
>
> PS If I am wrong I will never hear the end of it.
>

Tony didn't use a Tron until Trepass.The string arrangements were
actually done by Arthur Greenslade.
Pete

Chris Dale wrote:

> An early issue of that album lists "mellotron" in the credits. So your
> saved.
>

Any relation to Dave?

--- On Thu, 3/5/09, marabus <marabus@verizon.net> wrote:

From: marabus <marabus@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Genesis Fireside Song
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 10:55 PM

Tony didn't use a Tron until Trepass.The string arrangements were
actually done by Arthur Greenslade.
Pete

Chris Dale wrote:
> An early issue of that album lists "mellotron" in the credits. So your
> saved.
>

If Art Greenslade is Arthur Greenslade looks like Dave was his son.

--- On Fri, 3/6/09, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Genesis Fireside Song
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 9:10 AM

Any relation to Dave?

--- On Thu, 3/5/09, marabus <marabus@verizon. net> wrote:

From: marabus <marabus@verizon. net>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Genesis Fireside Song
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 10:55 PM

Tony didn't use a Tron until Trepass.The string arrangements were
actually done by Arthur Greenslade.
Pete

Chris Dale wrote:
> An early issue of that album lists "mellotron" in the credits. So your
> saved.
>

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:55 AM, marabus <marabus@verizon.net> wrote:

Tony didn't use a Tron until Trepass.The string arrangements were
actually done by Arthur Greenslade.
Pete

Chris Dale wrote:
> An early issue of that album lists "mellotron" in the credits. So your
> saved.
>

I guess anything is possible.

Chris Dale wrote:

> that's news to me! So maybe it's not strings then, (it's used
> for something else)
> or Greenslade is playing it - doing the string arrangement? It was a
> foreign release version I'm referring to that mentioned it - maybe
> dating from the 70's.
>
>
> It was common back then to list "string arrangements" and not
> Mellotron or Chamberlin when trying to avoid the squabbles with the
> musicians union
>
> Two examples are What's Going On (Marvin Gaye) and Nightwalker (Gino
> Vannelli) both mention string arrangements but have Chamberlin strings
> / other stuff mixed in as well.
>
>
> Trivial I guess!
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:55 AM, marabus <marabus@verizon.net
> <mailto:marabus@verizon.net>> wrote:
>
> Tony didn't use a Tron until Trepass.The string arrangements were
> actually done by Arthur Greenslade.
> Pete
>
>
>
> Chris Dale wrote:
> > An early issue of that album lists "mellotron" in the credits.
> So your
> > saved.
>
>

That's what I read on the web

Mark Pring wrote:

> If Art Greenslade is Arthur Greenslade looks like Dave was his son.
>
> --- On *Fri, 3/6/09, Mark Pring /<markpringnz@yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
> From: Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Genesis Fireside Song
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 9:10 AM
>
> Any relation to Dave?
>
> --- On *Thu, 3/5/09, marabus /<marabus@verizon. net>/* wrote:
>
> From: marabus <marabus@verizon. net>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Genesis Fireside Song
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 10:55 PM
>
> Tony didn't use a Tron until Trepass.The string arrangements were
> actually done by Arthur Greenslade.
> Pete
>
> Chris Dale wrote:
> > An early issue of that album lists "mellotron" in the
> credits. So your
> > saved.
> >
>
>
>
>
>