The Mellotron Group

" I was reminded of something- an elusive rhythm, a fragment of lost words, that I had heard somewhere a long time ago. For a moment a phrase tried to take shape in my mouth and my lips parted like a dumb man's, as though there was more struggling upon them than a wisp of startled air. But they made no sound, and what I had almost remembered was uncommunicable forever."

From: Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:16 PM

" I was reminded of something- an elusive rhythm, a fragment of lost words, that I had heard somewhere a long time ago. For a moment a phrase tried to take shape in my mouth and my lips parted like a dumb man's, as though there was more struggling upon them than a wisp of startled air. But they made no sound, and what I had almost remembered was uncommunicable forever."

Yes, but the sound I want has proved to be elusive, I think I might need an M300 to get it and my wife most certainly won't let me go there. I haven't heard it from an M400, Mark II or M4000 to my knowledge. In some ways I think it might be better to have it as unattainable goal, the holy grail of mellotron sounds for me. In any case I have grown very fond of the Mark II strings on the old tape set.

Mark

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 9:15 AM

Two 1968 violins will do that to you. New tape set, Mark?

-Bruce D.

--- On Wed, 2/25/09, Mark Pring <markpringnz@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Mark Pring <markpringnz@ yahoo.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:16 PM

" I was reminded of something- an elusive rhythm, a fragment of lost words, that I had heard somewhere a long time ago. For a moment a phrase tried to take shape in my mouth and my lips parted like a dumb man's, as though there was more struggling upon them than a wisp of startled air. But they made no sound, and what I had almost remembered was uncommunicable forever."

Mike Pinder used one on To Our Children's Children's Children and Wooly
played one with Barclay James Harvest, which, I believe, is the elusive
sound that Mark wants to reproduce.



John Wright wrote:

>
> This thread had me curious. I'm not very familiar with the M300 sound
> so I listened at the Mike Dickson site. What are some examples of
> songs/bands that use M300 strings? I'm guessing the traditional Prog
> bands didn't use.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Pring
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:19 PM
> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to
> explain the sound of the M300 violins
>
>

----- Original Message -----

From: john barrick

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:13 PM

Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins

Mike Pinder used one on To Our Children's Children's Children and Wooly
played one with Barclay James Harvest, which, I believe, is the elusive
sound that Mark wants to reproduce.

John Wright wrote:
>
> This thread had me curious. I'm not very familiar with the M300 sound
> so I listened at the Mike Dickson site. What are some examples of
> songs/bands that use M300 strings? I'm guessing the traditional Prog
> bands didn't use.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> *From:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Pring
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:19 PM
> *To:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to
> explain the sound of the M300 violins
>
>

It's the sound of the M300 played live, Barclay James Harvest Live pretty much captures it. I understand that some of the tron parts were overdubbed later in the studio as the tron broke down during the concert, so it was presumably possible to duplicate the sound in the studio. However I don't find the tron sound on the studio BJH albums very interesting nor the albums themselves if truth be told.

I think Woolly uses the Mark II 3 violins in the studio these days but uses the M300 violins live, however if his live album is anything to go by, to my ears at least they sound awful.

Mark

PS I think I might just have an M300 violins obsession, I wonder if there is a medical term for it?

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, john barrick <astroboy@cinci.rr.com> wrote:

From: john barrick <astroboy@cinci.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 11:13 AM

Mike Pinder used one on To Our Children's Children's Children and Wooly
played one with Barclay James Harvest, which, I believe, is the elusive
sound that Mark wants to reproduce.

John Wright wrote:
>
> This thread had me curious. I'm not very familiar with the M300 sound
> so I listened at the Mike Dickson site. What are some examples of
> songs/bands that use M300 strings? I'm guessing the traditional Prog
> bands didn't use.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
> *From:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com] *On Behalf Of *Mark Pring
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:19 PM
> *To:* newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to
> explain the sound of the M300 violins
>
>

M3VO Disorder, Mark, but it doesn't stand up in court.

Mark Pring wrote:

>
>
>
>
> PS I think I might just have an M300 violins obsession, I wonder if
> there is a medical term for it?
>
> -
>
>

Try M3VSOP. Clear, slighty earthy, a bit stringy. Wonderful in a snifter ;-)

--- On Thu, 2/26/09, john barrick <astroboy@cinci.rr.com> wrote:

From: john barrick <astroboy@cinci.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 4:26 PM

M3VO Disorder, Mark, but it doesn't stand up in court.

Mark Pring wrote:
>
>
>
>
> PS I think I might just have an M300 violins obsession, I wonder if
> there is a medical term for it?
>
> -
>
>

Well it isn't in DSM IV but if there are enough sufferers it might make DSM V

--- On Fri, 2/27/09, Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 4:36 PM

Try M3VSOP. Clear, slighty earthy, a bit stringy. Wonderful in a snifter ;-)

--- On Thu, 2/26/09, john barrick <astroboy@cinci. rr.com> wrote:

From: john barrick <astroboy@cinci. rr.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 4:26 PM

M3VO Disorder, Mark, but it doesn't stand up in court.

Mark Pring wrote:
>
>
>
>
> PS I think I might just have an M300 violins obsession, I wonder if
> there is a medical term for it?
>
> -
>
>

Mark:

If you need an M300 violins fix, try Gentle Giant's 2nd
album 'Acquiring the Taste' and listen to the 1st song, 'Pantagruel's
Nativity'.

This should bugger you up real good...

Cheers and best wishes for your recovery; it's horrible, just
horrible...

Dan

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring
<markpringnz@...> wrote:

>
> Well it isn't in DSM IV but if there are enough sufferers it might

make DSM V

>
> --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...> wrote:
> From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@...>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to

explain the sound of the M300 violins

> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 4:36 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Try M3VSOP. Clear, slighty earthy, a bit

stringy. Wonderful in a snifter ;-)

>
> --- On Thu, 2/26/09, john barrick <astroboy@cinci. rr.com> wrote:
>
> From: john barrick <astroboy@cinci. rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to

explain the sound of the M300 violins

> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 4:26 PM
>
>
>
>
> M3VO Disorder, Mark, but it doesn't stand up in court.
>
> Mark Pring wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > PS I think I might just have an M300 violins obsession, I wonder

if

> > there is a medical term for it?
> >
> > -
> >
> >
>

Thanks, I think I've had the disorder for 37 years, I think it's incurable.

--- On Sat, 2/28/09, Dan <dan_miso@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Dan <dan_miso@yahoo.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 3:36 AM

Mark:

If you need an M300 violins fix, try Gentle Giant's 2nd
album 'Acquiring the Taste' and listen to the 1st song, 'Pantagruel' s
Nativity'.

This should bugger you up real good...

Cheers and best wishes for your recovery; it's horrible, just
horrible...

Dan

--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, Mark Pring
<markpringnz@ ...> wrote:
>
> Well it isn't in DSM IV but if there are enough sufferers it might
make DSM V
>
> --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Bruce Daily <pocotron@.. .> wrote:
> From: Bruce Daily <pocotron@.. .>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to
explain the sound of the M300 violins
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 4:36 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Try M3VSOP. Clear, slighty earthy, a bit
stringy. Wonderful in a snifter ;-)
>
> --- On Thu, 2/26/09, john barrick <astroboy@cinci. rr.com> wrote:
>
> From: john barrick <astroboy@cinci. rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to
explain the sound of the M300 violins
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 4:26 PM
>
>
>
>
> M3VO Disorder, Mark, but it doesn't stand up in court.
>
> Mark Pring wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > PS I think I might just have an M300 violins obsession, I wonder
if
> > there is a medical term for it?
> >
> > -
> >
> >
>

In the yeast spread world

Vegemite is M-tron
Marmite is the M4000

--- On Sat, 2/28/09, Rick Blechta <rick@rickblechta.com> wrote:

From: Rick Blechta <rick@rickblechta.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: F. Scott Fitzgerald trying to explain the sound of the M300 violins
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 8:44 AM

On Feb 27, 2009, at 1:59 PM, Mark Pring wrote:

Thanks, I think I've had the disorder for 37 years, I think it's incurable.

Oh, you poor, poor man! Try eating some vegemites...