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Changing tapes

2008-10-08 by Mark Pring

I have 2 tape frames, the one that came with #1565 and a brand new one. I would like to move the tapes from the new frame into the old tape frame and put a new set of tapes into the new tape frame. I don't think there is an easy way to do this but if any body has some good ideas, my lumbosacral spine and myself would be grateful.

Mark

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Changing tapes

2008-10-08 by Rick Blechta

On Oct 8, 2008, at 5:50 PM, Mark Pring wrote:

I have 2 tape frames, the one that came with #1565 and a brand new one. I would like to move the tapes from the new frame into the old tape frame and put a new set of tapes into the new tape frame. I don't think there is an easy way to do this but if any body has some good ideas, my lumbosacral spine and myself would be grateful.

Mark

I've heard that if you leave the tape frames out overnight along with a plate of pickled onions, jellied eels and a couple of pints of beer, the mellotron elves will break into your house, eat all the food, drink all the beer, and if you're lucky, really lucky, the re-lace the tape frames for you.

Of course, I heard that story from John Bradley...

Rick

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Changing tapes

2008-10-08 by L. Richards

WHY?

Mark Pring wrote:

I have 2 tape frames, the one that came with #1565 and a brand new one. I would like to move the tapes from the new frame into the old tape frame and put a new set of tapes into the new tape frame. I don't think there is an easy way to do this but if any body has some good ideas, my lumbosacral spine and myself would be grateful.

Mark

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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Changing tapes

2008-10-09 by Mark Pring

Hi Lee,
The short answer is: The new tape frame is mechanically a big improvement on the old, new tape springs, turnbuckles with axles and rollers etc. I ordered the new tape frame with the voices I thought I would want to use most often but I have changed my mind. I want to put new tapes into the new frame and move the current tapes into the old frame as a back up. I don't plan to changed the tape frames very often but I certainly would not want to bin a new set of tapes even if I am not going to use them much!

Incidentally thinking of this has suggested a possible partial solution, I could swap the tape springs and turnbuckles between frames and then just relace the tapes in the old frame and use that, hmm not sure if that is much easier.

Mark

--- On Thu, 10/9/08, L. Richards <surfbeach@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:

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From: L. Richards <surfbeach@hawaii.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Changing tapes
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 12:07 PM

WHY?

Mark Pring wrote:

I have 2 tape frames, the one that came with #1565 and a brand new one. I would like to move the tapes from the new frame into the old tape frame and put a new set of tapes into the new tape frame. I don't think there is an easy way to do this but if any body has some good ideas, my lumbosacral spine and myself would be grateful.

Mark

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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Changing tapes

2008-10-09 by jeffrey coulter

it's FAR easier to lace a set of tapes that are still intact on reels.
i just did this a few months ago, and comparing that process to dealing with 35 individual tapes is like night and day.

if you are going to remove old tapes from the old frame, then you might consider using that as an opportunity to clean up and refurbish the old frame. much less chance of having a single tape get damaged while transferring from one frame to another. if the old frame needs work, then do the work to bring it back up to spec. since you are going to use that frame at least occasionally, you should have it in good nick anyway.

just my 2 cents if i were in that position.
and also in the interest of sparing your back.

...jeff

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Changing tapes

2008-10-09 by Mark Pring

Thanks Jeff,
I do plan to refurbish the old tape rack but I suspect that transferring the tapes in the new rack to the old rack is going to be a real pain!

Mark

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--- On Thu, 10/9/08, jeffrey coulter <i_am_zontar@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: jeffrey coulter <i_am_zontar@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Changing tapes
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 6:00 PM

it's FAR easier to lace a set of tapes that are still intact on reels.
i just did this a few months ago, and comparing that process to dealing with 35 individual tapes is like night and day.

if you are going to remove old tapes from the old frame, then you might consider using that as an opportunity to clean up and refurbish the old frame. much less chance of having a single tape get damaged while transferring from one frame to another. if the old frame needs work, then do the work to bring it back up to spec. since you are going to use that frame at least occasionally, you should have it in good nick anyway.

just my 2 cents if i were in that position.
and also in the interest of sparing your back.

...jeff

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Changing tapes

2008-10-09 by L. Richards

GOTCHA!!!

Mark Pring wrote:

Hi Lee,
The short answer is: The new tape frame is mechanically a big improvement on the old, new tape springs, turnbuckles with axles and rollers etc. I ordered the new tape frame with the voices I thought I would want to use most often but I have changed my mind. I want to put new tapes into the new frame and move the current tapes into the old frame as a back up. I don't plan to changed the tape frames very often but I certainly would not want to bin a new set of tapes even if I am not going to use them much!

Incidentally thinking of this has suggested a possible partial solution, I could swap the tape springs and turnbuckles between frames and then just relace the tapes in the old frame and use that, hmm not sure if that is much easier.

Mark

--- On Thu, 10/9/08, L. Richards <surfbeach@hawaii. rr.com> wrote:

From: L. Richards <surfbeach@hawaii. rr.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Changing tapes
To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 12:07 PM

WHY?

Mark Pring wrote:

I have 2 tape frames, the one that came with #1565 and a brand new one. I would like to move the tapes from the new frame into the old tape frame and put a new set of tapes into the new tape frame. I don't think there is an easy way to do this but if any body has some good ideas, my lumbosacral spine and myself would be grateful.

Mark

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Re: Changing tapes

2008-10-09 by ceccles_ca

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...>
wrote:

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> Thanks Jeff,
> I do plan to refurbish the old tape rack but I suspect that

transferring the tapes in the new rack to the old rack is going to be
a real pain!

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> Mark

If your old frame still has tapes in it...It might be fairly easy.
-Stand the new frame up parallel with the old frame. ( = )
-Use splicing tape (or something else) and connect the end of the old
tapes with the start of the new tapes. As you pull each old tape out,
the new tape threads.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Changing tapes

2008-10-09 by tony1

I can vouch for this technique, however it is still time comsuming.

No way around that I'm afraid.

Based on personal experience, make sure the ferrite side is down on the tap heads, yea I strung a set backwards.

Good luck!

Tony

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Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Changing tapes

--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@ ...>
wrote:
>
> Thanks Jeff,
> I do plan to refurbish the old tape rack but I suspect that
transferring the tapes in the new rack to the old rack is going to be
a real pain!
>
> Mark

If your old frame still has tapes in it...It might be fairly easy.
-Stand the new frame up parallel with the old frame. ( = )
-Use splicing tape (or something else) and connect the end of the old
tapes with the start of the new tapes. As you pull each old tape out,
the new tape threads.

Re: Changing tapes

2008-10-09 by ceccles_ca

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ceccles_ca"
<ecclesreinson@...> wrote:

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> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Jeff,
> > I do plan to refurbish the old tape rack but I suspect that
> transferring the tapes in the new rack to the old rack is going to be
> a real pain!
> >
> > Mark
>
> If your old frame still has tapes in it...It might be fairly easy.
> -Stand the new frame up parallel with the old frame. ( = )
> -Use splicing tape (or something else) and connect the end of the old
> tapes with the start of the new tapes. As you pull each old tape out,
> the new tape threads.

Crap! You also want the old tapes in the new frame. I guess you could
lay them flat on a big table, tape them together at both ends and pull
them through. As much fun as a root canal procedure. Maybe Martin
has a better idea.

Clay