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My Mellotron Obsession

My Mellotron Obsession

2008-05-10 by Mark Pring

The first time I heard the Mellotron was the when I heard "Strawberry Fields", shortly after it was released. I didn't know it was a Mellotron but I did recognise that it was taped flutes played via some type of keyboard. I liked the sound, loved the record but the Mellotron was just a musical curiosity.

The second time I heard the Mellotron was at 11:30pm 18th November 1968, there are reasons why I remember the time which aren't related to the Mellotron. The Moody Blues were playing, well probably miming, "Nights in White Satin" on the television. This time the Mellotron made a bit more of an impact and again I liked the song but not enough to become very interested in the "Moody Blues".

The third occasion was three years later. I was 17 years old, I arranged with a friend to go and see Barclay James Harvest at a small cellar night club in Manchester. I had heard their first LP at school at lunch time record club, I had not been impressed but I was always keen to see live rock concerts.

I caught the train into the city and arrived at the club at about 8:30pm, my friend didn't show. I was underage and probably looked 14 years old however they seemed happy to serve me beer, so I waited around for a couple of hours. The band finally came on at 10:30pm, the last train home left at 10:45pm. They launched into "She said", my world hasn't been quite the same since, I stayed for the rest of the concert and walked home at midnight. I remember that they finished with a particularly rousing version of "Dark now my sky".

I have always found it very difficult to explain to anybody else what it is about the sound of Mellotron and especially the M300a 2 violins that affects me so much, something ethereal and yet close, it doesn't sound that much like violins, it's unmistakably a Mellotron and doesn't have that slightly sinister quality of the Mark II strings. The M300 strings are autumn, the Mark II strings are winter. I am used to people's eyes glazing over by now.

I followed BJH for several years after seeing them with and without the orchestra, much preferring the former. I was lucky that the mellotron only packed up once, when they had the orchestra, it certainly did sound terrible that night. I gradually lost interest in BJH as they seemed to get rather jaded towards the end of the 70's. I did become briefly interested again when my girlfriend of the time ( now my wife ) bought BJH live.

Many years passed and I emigrated to New Zealand. In 2003 my wife was transferring some of our old vinyl records to tape and she happened to play one of the BJH Live records, the other was so warped by now as to be un-playable, it was like being whisked back 30 years. At that point I decided I would one day own a mellotron and thought I had better learn to play a keyboard.

I started lessons and bought a cheap Yamaha PSR 295 this was a mistake as contrary to the salesperson's spiel the keys aren't quite standard size and this caused me a lot of problems when I switched to the piano. I trawled the Internet for mellotron sites and samples. I found the Yahoo mellotron list, and started off with the free Mellowsound and Novatron samples hosted through Fruity Loops and later moved on to M-Tron. After following the list for some months I became less sure of how I would acquire a mellotron and also more doubtful of my ability to keep one working if I did.

In 2007 I visited Martin, John and Brian at Blithley and had a look at an M4000. I was very impressed and very tempted, but thought an M400 or Mark VI being simpler, would be a better choice In the end family commitments took priority and I didn't feel justified in spending $15000 NZ on a mellotron just for me. I thought that I had finally decided to be content with samples. However very deep down I still pined for an M400 and did literally dream of finding one for sale in a charity shop for $50.

At the beginning of 2008 I joined Trade-me, our equivalent of Ebay and arranged to be notified if a mellotron should come up for auction. I think you would have to live here to realise how unlikely that is. I was staggered when a week later #1565 came up for auction and I was the only bidder. So for $1000 NZ, I was now the proud owner of a broken M400.

Still along way to go before #1565 is playable and I don't think I would have bought it if I hadn't known that help from list members was available. Still, I have given up on one of my ambitions and that is to be able to reproduce the sound of Woolly's M300 played live. The studio sound is fairly easy to obtain even in M-tron, oddly enough Woolly says that the live sound was never wet enough for his taste. Samples played dry or half wet just don't sound right to me. I have come believe that even when I have the M300 violins on tape and a working mellotron I won't be able reproduce that sound.

So where is all this leading?

I have come to 2 conclusions:

1) Beware of what you wish for, you'll get it.

I should have wished for an M300!

2) Sometimes it's good to have an unobtainable goal. If I managed to achieve that sound I would probably in some subtle way be disappointed.

It is better to travel hopefully than arrive.

Mark

PS I promise never to raise this topic again.


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Re: [newmellotrongroup] My Mellotron Obsession

2008-05-10 by Steven Davies-Morris

Mark Pring wrote:
>
>
>
>
> The first time I heard the Mellotron

Great story,Mark. Congrats on acquiring #1565!
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RE: [newmellotrongroup] My Mellotron Obsession

2008-05-10 by David Jacques

Cool thread…

The first time I ever heard a Mellotron was listening to the Moody Blues in the 1960’s at my friend’s house. His mom was pretty cool and she loved the Moody’s, so that is what we listened to. I had no idea that I was listening to a tron, and there were few popular groups back then with such an orchestral sound…

Then it was the Beatles’ Strawberry Fields. I thought it was just another George Martin sonic re-creation of flutes. Then it was the Rolling Stones’ 2000 Light Years from Home. I started to recognize the similar sound…

Then my life changed. August 1969… As a 14-year-old I was sitting in the mud on a rainy Friday night at the West Palm Beach Festival. After a series of amazing sets by Vanilla Fudge, Janis Joplin, and Sweetwater, and a few dozen joints… I heard the most magical sound I have ever heard… King Crimson had taken the stage and opened with Court of the Crimson King. (This was one week before the famous Crimson performance recorded at the Fillmore West.)

Well, I swore I saw a symphony orchestra on stage with them, but I was wrong. What I saw was Ian McDonald playing a large wooden organ, but what type of organ makes that sound? I had no idea. He even had a reverb unit on top of the Mark II that he smashed on the top of his tron during Mars… I was completely blown away!

To my (and the other 50,000+ people in attendance) pleasure, Crimson played all three days of the festival. Among the many stars who performed there (Rolling Stones, Canned Heat, Vanilla Fudge, Sweetwater, Janis Joplin, Jefferson Airplane, Johnny and Edgar Winters, Grand Funk Railroad, and many more), Crimson was the star of the festival, and I was an instant fan.

Who would imagine that only a couple of weeks later this amazing band would split up? But I was one of the lucky few who saw these guys play, and three days in a row! I consider myself very fortunate. And it changed my musical direction.

I did my research and found a lot of information about the Mellotron, but it was impossible to get one in the states. And even if they were available, good luck trying to afford one. I was performing with a Hammond C3, Clavinet, and Wurlie… No way could I afford a tron.

A few years later the Model 400 was introduced and became available in the US . But that was way out of my price range. I did have a schoolmate who bought one and I played it at his house. What an unruly beast. But it was strangely magical… and I loved it. He was doing some sessions and could not make one. I replaced him and played his Mellotron. A few days later I was called onto the carpet from my union, The American Federation of Musicians. Uh oh…

It was pretty funny going before a “jury” of old Miami Beach musicians lecturing this long-haired hack keyboardist that my playing a Mellotron was putting musicians out of work. So they fined me $100 and I continued playing…

In the 80’s I saw an ad for a SM400 in a Miami paper. I went to the guy’s house and saw the most beat-up tron I had ever seen. There were tapes unraveled all over the place and the keyboard was all messed up. He wanted $500 for it and I turned it down. On my way to my car he said “$100”! Well, I was a dumb kid… and turned him down again.

Fast forward 30 years… Call me crazy, but I found this list and my tron lust returned. One day I received an email from this guy in Texas who said that he heard I was looking for one for my collection. He said that it lived its life in a Dallas recording studio and that he owned it for only a few years. He wanted $2000 for it. The pictures he sent displayed a very nice tron in very good condition. I figured $2000 is not bad and even if I had to spend another $1500 for new tapes and a motor upgrade, why not?

I purchased it and he shipped it to me from East Texas . A few days after he shipped it a chicken truck pulls up to my house with a crated Mellotron inside. After uncrating it I opened up the back and discovered the upgraded motor controller. The tapes looked very clean. I plugged it in and it played beautifully! Amazing.

One of the first things I did was sample it onto my Motif ES so that I could play its wonderful sounds live at my gigs. You can hear samples from this tron at my website www.vintagekeyboardsounds.com .

My tron sits in my studio protected from all danger… I play it occasionally, and its voice sends me back to my days as a 14-year-old musician hearing something that would change my musical destiny…

Re: My Mellotron Obsession

2008-05-10 by Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "David Jacques" <djacques@...>
wrote:
>
A few days later I was
> called onto the carpet from my union, The American Federation of
Musicians.
> Uh oh.
>
>
>
> It was pretty funny going before a "jury" of old Miami Beach musicians
> lecturing this long-haired hack keyboardist that my playing a
Mellotron was
> putting musicians out of work. So they fined me $100 and I continued
> playing.


Has anyone else had union problems regarding Mellotron usage? The
Hartford local, a group of small-time Mafia gentlemen, harassed my band
because we dared to use a Mellotron to "replace other union members".
They even sent some of their officers to spy on us in the hopes of
finding some incriminating evidence, but they were too ignorant to
recognize our Tron for what it was. I called the president of the
Hartford local and told him to keep his fat nose out of my band's
business (literally). For some reason, he took offense to this and
threatened to bring me up on charges (whatever that means). Fortunately,
I was also a member of the competing Allied Musicians Union in NYC at
the time and they offered to send down a lawyer on the next plane to
defend me. When the Hartford local found out about it, they backed off.
A very strange, but entertaining situation.

As an aside, of what value is the union to musicians? They don't seem to
benefit musicians in any way.

Bernie

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: My Mellotron Obsession

2008-05-11 by David Jacques

Back in the 70’s you had to be in the union to play any of the major clubs in Miami. Even rock bands…

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Bernie
Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 4:48 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: My Mellotron Obsession



--- In newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com, "David Jacques" <djacques@.. .>
wrote:

>
A few days later I was
> called onto the carpet from my union, The American Federation of
Musicians.
> Uh oh.
>
>
>
> It was pretty funny going before a "jury" of old
w:st="on"> Miami Beach musicians
> lecturing this long-haired hack keyboardist that my playing a
Mellotron was
> putting musicians out of work. So they fined me $100 and I continued
> playing.

Has anyone else had union problems regarding Mellotron usage? The
Hartford local, a group of small-time Mafia gentlemen, harassed my band
because we dared to use a Mellotron to "replace other union members".
They even sent some of their officers to spy on us in the hopes of
finding some incriminating evidence, but they were too ignorant to
recognize our Tron for what it was. I called the president of the
Hartford local and told him to keep his fat nose out of my band's
business (literally). For some reason, he took offense to this and
threatened to bring me up on charges (whatever that means). Fortunately,
I was also a member of the competing Allied Musicians Union in NYC at
the time and they offered to send down a lawyer on the next plane to
defend me. When the Hartford local found out about it, they backed off.
A very strange, but entertaining situation.

As an aside, of what value is the union to musicians? They don't seem to
benefit musicians in any way.

Bernie

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: My Mellotron Obsession

2008-05-11 by jeffc@netaxs.com

On Sat, 10 May 2008, Bernie wrote:
>
> As an aside, of what value is the union to musicians? They don't seem to
> benefit musicians in any way.
>
> Bernie


they do pay pensions and benefits and make affordable insurance available.
they can also force labels/bookers to pay the going rate.
[the side effect of which is you might stop getting booked]
they also have been known to send referals.

an old friend is in the union.
he's an incredibly talented sax/keyboard player and an arranger.
he's toured with some very prestigious acts.
i think he does pretty good by them.
at least i have never heard a single gripe or complaint, but he
is on a wholly other level of musicianship than i, a mere hack.

it's silly for them to meddle where it's not even profitable for
them to do so, but it's likely that these meddlers have to prove
their value to someone by making a little trouble here and there.

i had an old girlfriend whose sister was paid by ASCAP to go to
bars and track what songs the bands were playing. if i recall
they also paid her bar tabs. she used to call it 'ASCAPing'.

again, just meddling to justify your actions to whoever you
may be answering to on any given day. she never gave a darn
what became of the information she provided to ASCAP.

but just like the AFM, they DO provide a benefit/service if
you are on a level for them to bother with you.

just my .02 on the question asked...
jeff

Re: My Mellotron Obsession

2008-05-11 by Bernie

Here in Connecticut, they used to tell us the same thing. Turns out
it wasn't true. At least one local booking agent who was in big with
the AFM was shaking down the bands. A club owner showed us our
contract, which the agent would never let us see. He was taking 45%.
Later on, he was brought up on charges by the National Association of
Orchestra Leaders for violating a private contract by refusing to
cross a hotel picket line to play at a private party.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "David Jacques"
<djacques@...> wrote:
>
> Back in the 70's you had to be in the union to play any of the
major clubs
> in Miami. Even rock bands.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bernie
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 4:48 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: My Mellotron Obsession
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%
40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com, "David Jacques" <djacques@>
> wrote:
> >
> A few days later I was
> > called onto the carpet from my union, The American Federation of
> Musicians.
> > Uh oh.
> >
> >
> >
> > It was pretty funny going before a "jury" of old Miami Beach
musicians
> > lecturing this long-haired hack keyboardist that my playing a
> Mellotron was
> > putting musicians out of work. So they fined me $100 and I
continued
> > playing.
>
> Has anyone else had union problems regarding Mellotron usage? The
> Hartford local, a group of small-time Mafia gentlemen, harassed my
band
> because we dared to use a Mellotron to "replace other union
members".
> They even sent some of their officers to spy on us in the hopes of
> finding some incriminating evidence, but they were too ignorant to
> recognize our Tron for what it was. I called the president of the
> Hartford local and told him to keep his fat nose out of my band's
> business (literally). For some reason, he took offense to this and
> threatened to bring me up on charges (whatever that means).
Fortunately,
> I was also a member of the competing Allied Musicians Union in NYC
at
> the time and they offered to send down a lawyer on the next plane to
> defend me. When the Hartford local found out about it, they backed
off.
> A very strange, but entertaining situation.
>
> As an aside, of what value is the union to musicians? They don't
seem to
> benefit musicians in any way.
>
> Bernie
>

Re: My Mellotron Obsession

2008-05-11 by Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, jeffc@... wrote:
>
> On Sat, 10 May 2008, Bernie wrote:
> >
> > As an aside, of what value is the union to musicians? They don't
seem to
> > benefit musicians in any way.
> >
> > Bernie
>
>
> they do pay pensions and benefits and make affordable insurance
available.
> they can also force labels/bookers to pay the going rate.
> [the side effect of which is you might stop getting booked]
> they also have been known to send referals.
>
> an old friend is in the union.
> he's an incredibly talented sax/keyboard player and an arranger.
> he's toured with some very prestigious acts.
> i think he does pretty good by them.
> at least i have never heard a single gripe or complaint, but he
> is on a wholly other level of musicianship than i, a mere hack.
>
> it's silly for them to meddle where it's not even profitable for
> them to do so, but it's likely that these meddlers have to prove
> their value to someone by making a little trouble here and there.
>
> i had an old girlfriend whose sister was paid by ASCAP to go to
> bars and track what songs the bands were playing. if i recall
> they also paid her bar tabs. she used to call it 'ASCAPing'.
>
> again, just meddling to justify your actions to whoever you
> may be answering to on any given day. she never gave a darn
> what became of the information she provided to ASCAP.
>
> but just like the AFM, they DO provide a benefit/service if
> you are on a level for them to bother with you.
>
> just my .02 on the question asked...
> jeff
>

Maybe things have changed. We never had pensions or any other
benefits like insurance way back when. All we had was harrasment. But
I think your last sentence somewhat describes the situation. It
depends on who you are.

Bernie

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: My Mellotron Obsession

2008-05-11 by djacques@csulb.edu

The problem was that in the 70's it was either join the union or you might get a visit from "Cheech".
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: "Bernie" <kornowicz@cox.net>

Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 15:07:02
To:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: My Mellotron Obsession


Here in Connecticut, they used to tell us the same thing. Turns out
it wasn't true. At least one local booking agent who was in big with
the AFM was shaking down the bands. A club owner showed us our
contract, which the agent would never let us see. He was taking 45%.
Later on, he was brought up on charges by the National Association of
Orchestra Leaders for violating a private contract by refusing to
cross a hotel picket line to play at a private party.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com, "David Jacques"
<djacques@...> wrote:
>
> Back in the 70's you had to be in the union to play any of the
major clubs
> in Miami. Even rock bands.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bernie
> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 4:48 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: My Mellotron Obsession
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%
40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com, "David Jacques" <djacques@>
> wrote:
> >
> A few days later I was
> > called onto the carpet from my union, The American Federation of
> Musicians.
> > Uh oh.
> >
> >
> >
> > It was pretty funny going before a "jury" of old Miami Beach
musicians
> > lecturing this long-haired hack keyboardist that my playing a
> Mellotron was
> > putting musicians out of work. So they fined me $100 and I
continued
> > playing.
>
> Has anyone else had union problems regarding Mellotron usage? The
> Hartford local, a group of small-time Mafia gentlemen, harassed my
band
> because we dared to use a Mellotron to "replace other union
members".
> They even sent some of their officers to spy on us in the hopes of
> finding some incriminating evidence, but they were too ignorant to
> recognize our Tron for what it was. I called the president of the
> Hartford local and told him to keep his fat nose out of my band's
> business (literally). For some reason, he took offense to this and
> threatened to bring me up on charges (whatever that means).
Fortunately,
> I was also a member of the competing Allied Musicians Union in NYC
at
> the time and they offered to send down a lawyer on the next plane to
> defend me. When the Hartford local found out about it, they backed
off.
> A very strange, but entertaining situation.
>
> As an aside, of what value is the union to musicians? They don't
seem to
> benefit musicians in any way.
>
> Bernie
>

Re: My Mellotron Obsession

2008-05-11 by Bernie

Yeah, it's not like there was a choice back then. Cheech? Up here it
was "Guido".

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, djacques@... wrote:
>
> The problem was that in the 70's it was either join the union or
you might get a visit from "Cheech".
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Bernie" <kornowicz@...>
>
> Date: Sun, 11 May 2008 15:07:02
> To:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: My Mellotron Obsession
>
>
> Here in Connecticut, they used to tell us the same thing. Turns out
> it wasn't true. At least one local booking agent who was in big
with
> the AFM was shaking down the bands. A club owner showed us our
> contract, which the agent would never let us see. He was taking
45%.
> Later on, he was brought up on charges by the National Association
of
> Orchestra Leaders for violating a private contract by refusing to
> cross a hotel picket line to play at a private party.
>
> Bernie
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%
40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com, "David Jacques"
> <djacques@> wrote:
> >
> > Back in the 70's you had to be in the union to play any of the
> major clubs
> > in Miami. Even rock bands.
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%
40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%
40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bernie
> > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 4:48 PM
> > To: newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%
40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: My Mellotron Obsession
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@ <mailto:newmellotrongroup%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > yahoogroups.com, "David Jacques" <djacques@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > A few days later I was
> > > called onto the carpet from my union, The American Federation
of
> > Musicians.
> > > Uh oh.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It was pretty funny going before a "jury" of old Miami Beach
> musicians
> > > lecturing this long-haired hack keyboardist that my playing a
> > Mellotron was
> > > putting musicians out of work. So they fined me $100 and I
> continued
> > > playing.
> >
> > Has anyone else had union problems regarding Mellotron usage? The
> > Hartford local, a group of small-time Mafia gentlemen, harassed
my
> band
> > because we dared to use a Mellotron to "replace other union
> members".
> > They even sent some of their officers to spy on us in the hopes
of
> > finding some incriminating evidence, but they were too ignorant
to
> > recognize our Tron for what it was. I called the president of the
> > Hartford local and told him to keep his fat nose out of my band's
> > business (literally). For some reason, he took offense to this
and
> > threatened to bring me up on charges (whatever that means).
> Fortunately,
> > I was also a member of the competing Allied Musicians Union in
NYC
> at
> > the time and they offered to send down a lawyer on the next
plane to
> > defend me. When the Hartford local found out about it, they
backed
> off.
> > A very strange, but entertaining situation.
> >
> > As an aside, of what value is the union to musicians? They don't
> seem to
> > benefit musicians in any way.
> >
> > Bernie
> >
>

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: My Mellotron Obsession

2008-05-12 by fdoddy@aol.com

30% of my income comes from my union affiliation. They negotiate with the American Association of Advertisers on rates and are the watch dog for illegal activities. A percentage of my Union payments are matched and put in a retirement fund. The AFM has been very positive for me.


fritz


-----Original Message-----
From: jeffc@netaxs.com
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:23 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: My Mellotron Obsession

On Sat, 10 May 2008, Bernie wrote:
>
> As an aside, of what value is the union to musicians? They don't seem to
> benefit musicians in any way.
>
> Bernie

they do pay pensions and benefits and make affordable insurance available.
they can also force labels/bookers to pay the going rate.
[the side effect of which is you might stop getting booked]
they also have been known to send referals.

an old friend is in the union.
he's an incredibly talented sax/keyboard player and an arranger.
he's toured with some very prestigious acts.
i think he does pretty good by them.
at least i have never heard a single gripe or complaint, but he
is on a wholly other level of musicianship than i, a mere hack.

it's silly for them to meddle where it's not even profitable for
them to do so, but it's likely that these meddlers have to prove
their value to someone by making a little trouble here and there.

i had an old girlfriend whose sister was paid by ASCAP to go to
bars and track what songs the bands were playing. if i recall
they also paid her bar tabs. she used to call it 'ASCAPing'.

again, just meddling to justify your actions to whoever you
may be answering to on any given day. she never gave a darn
what became of the information she provided to ASCAP.

but just like the AFM, they DO provide a benefit/service if
you are on a level for them to bother with you.

just my .02 on the question asked...
jeff

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: My Mellotron Obsession

2008-05-12 by jeffc@netaxs.com

On Sun, 11 May 2008 fdoddy@aol.com wrote:

>
> 30% of my income comes from my union affiliation.? They negotiate with
> the American Association of Advertisers on rates and are the watch dog
> for illegal activities.? A percentage of my Union payments are matched
> and put in a retirement fund. The AFM has been very positive for me.
>
>
> fritz



yup - just as i thought.
you have talent, fritz, and you 'have it going on' in many ways.

i speak for myself alone, but i am a lowly hack with very little to
offer 'the real world' as a musician. that would explain why i worked
at a label for all those years ;0)

...jeff

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: My Mellotron Obsession

2008-05-12 by gino wong




i speak for myself alone, but i am a lowly hack with very little to
offer 'the real world' as a musician. that would explain why i worked
at a label for all those years ;0)

...jeff



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Bollocks ! False modesty. What color are those records on your wall ? Even though they weren't to your taste you still were there. They way you handled the Lauren Hill thing was a masterpiece of ethics in a sewer of a business And you you got them paid by Sony to the tune of how many hundreds of millions ?



Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: My Mellotron Obsession

2008-05-13 by fdoddy@aol.com

here here!


-----Original Message-----
From: gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 12 May 2008 4:25 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: My Mellotron Obsession




i speak for myself alone, but i am a lowly hack with very little to
offer 'the real world' as a musician. that would explain why i worked
at a label for all those years ;0)

...jeff



.

Bollocks ! False modesty. What color are those records on your wall ? Even though they weren't to your taste you still were there. They way you handled the Lauren Hill thing was a masterpiece of ethics in a sewer of a business And you you got them paid by Sony to the tune of how many hundreds of millions ?