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Not the M300a violins again!

Not the M300a violins again!

2016-07-09 by markpringnz@yahoo.com

Sorry to air my obsession with this tapeset again, I was watching this video of Hessel's:


Mellotron M300 demonstration

Mellotron M300 demonstration
Here's a little demo of my Mellotron M300, which is up for auction on eBay (item # 281566538559 ).
View on www.youtube.com
Preview by Yahoo


There does seem to be something different about the sound of an M300 as opposed to an M400 playing the same tape set, but I can't put my finger on what it is although that has always been the mellotron sound I wanted. Unfortunately the sound of my M400 has always been a disappointment I suppose there is quite a big difference between a Mark II an M400 and a Chamberlin playing the 3 violins.


This link is to a little demo on my Soundcloud channel comparing the sound of my M400, the Streetly samples of the M300a from M-tron Pro and the M300a samples in Redtron SE. I am not going to buy an M300!


Mark


PS If anyone knows why the M300 sounds different I would really like to know.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Not the M300a violins again!

2016-07-09 by tronbros@aol.com

Hello Mark

It's all down to pre and line amp types, heads types and azimuth alignment, which tape work masters were used for copying, i.e. London tapes sounded very different from Streetly tapes or Sound Sales tapes. A lot of variables.

My best

Martin 


Web: mellotronics.com
Facebook: Streetly Electronics

1963 - 2015 52 years of mellotrons


-----Original Message-----
From: markpringnz@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 4:55
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Not the M300a violins again!

 
Sorry to air my obsession with this tapeset again, I was watching this video of Hessel's:

Mellotron M300 demonstration
Here's a little demo of my Mellotron M300, which is up for auction on eBay (item # 281566538559 ).
View on www.youtube.com
Preview by Yahoo

There does seem to be something different about the sound of an M300 as opposed to an M400 playing the same tape set, but I can't put my finger on what it is although that has always bee n the mellotron sound I wanted. Unfortunately the sound of my M400 has always been a disappointment I suppose there is quite a big difference between a Mark II an M400 and a Chamberlin playing the 3 violins.

This link is to a little demo on my Soundcloud channel comparing the sound of my M400, the Streetly samples of the M300a from M-tron Pro and the M300a samples in Redtron SE. I am not going to buy an M300!

Mark

PS If anyone knows why the M300 sounds different I would really like to know.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Not the M300a violins again!

2016-07-09 by Mark Pring

Thanks Martin,

I am pretty sure that all the m300a violin samples available have not been taken from an M300. I may be wrong, and if so I would like to be corrected, but I think the original M-tron was sampled from a Mark II and the Streetly M300a are from a "see-through" M400, anything from Marcus would be master tapes so not much use to me. I am not sure about the Redtron se samples which to my ears sound the closest to an M300.

I don't suppose there is any chance of another Streetly pack with a sampled M300 on it? I am not sure if you own one, I know you have had them at Blithbury but I don't suppose another owner would be happy for you to sample one.

I'm too old to contemplate getting an M300.

Hope the collapse of the pound is helping you sell hundreds of mellotrons to the US.

Cheers

Mark




From: "tronbros@aol.com [newmellotrongroup]" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 9 July 2016 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Not the M300a violins again!

 
Hello Mark

It's all down to pre and line amp types, heads types and azimuth alignment, which tape work masters were used for copying, i.e. London tapes sounded very different from Streetly tapes or Sound Sales tapes. A lot of variables.

My best

Martin 


Web: mellotronics.com
Facebook: Streetly Electronics

1963 - 2015 52 years of mellotrons


-----Original Message-----
From: markpringnz@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, 9 Jul 2016 4:55
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Not the M300a violins again!

 
Sorry to air my obsession with this tapeset again, I was watching this video of Hessel's:

Mellotron M300 demonstration
Here's a little demo of my Mellotron M300, which is up for auction on eBay (item # 281566538559 ).
View on www.youtube.com
Preview by Yahoo

There does seem to be something different about the sound of an M300 as opposed to an M400 playing the same tape set, but I can't put my finger on what it is although that has always bee n the mellotron sound I wanted. Unfortunately the sound of my M400 has always been a disappointment I suppose there is quite a big difference between a Mark II an M400 and a Chamberlin playing the 3 violins.

This link is to a little demo on my Soundcloud channel comparing the sound of my M400, the Streetly samples of the M300a from M-tron Pro and the M300a samples in Redtron SE. I am not going to buy an M300!

Mark

PS If anyone knows why the M300 sounds different I would really like to know.


Re: [newmellotrongroup] Not the M300a violins again!

2016-07-09 by David Jacques

The M300 strings were different recordings than the MKII and M400. Check out the Moodies "Seventh Sojourn". Pinder used an M300 on that album. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 8, 2016, at 9:51 PM, markpringnz@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Sorry to air my obsession with this tapeset again, I was watching this video of Hessel's:


Mellotron M300 demonstration

Mellotron M300 demonstration
Here's a little demo of my Mellotron M300, which is up for auction on eBay (item # 281566538559 ).
View on www.youtube.com
Preview by Yahoo


There does seem to be something different about the sound of an M300 as opposed to an M400 playing the same tape set, but I can't put my finger on what it is although that has always been the mellotron sound I wanted. Unfortunately the sound of my M400 has always been a disappointment I suppose there is quite a big difference between a Mark II an M400 and a Chamberlin playing the 3 violins.


This link is to a little demo on my Soundcloud channel comparing the sound of my M400, the Streetly samples of the M300a from M-tron Pro and the M300a samples in Redtron SE. I am not going to buy an M300!


Mark


PS If anyone knows why the M300 sounds different I would really like to know.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Not the M300a violins again!

2016-07-09 by Bill Rudloff

He used Chamberlain on that album. I think it was used in To Our Children's children's children on Watching and Waiting.
Bill Rudloff

Sent from my iPhone4

On Jul 9, 2016, at 12:34 PM, David Jacques hammonddave2004@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

The M300 strings were different recordings than the MKII and M400. Check out the Moodies "Seventh Sojourn". Pinder used an M300 on that album. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 8, 2016, at 9:51 PM, markpringnz@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Sorry to air my obsession with this tapeset again, I was watching this video of Hessel's:


Mellotron M300 demonstration

Mellotron M300 demonstration
Here's a little demo of my Mellotron M300, which is up for auction on eBay (item # 281566538559 ).
View on www.youtube.com
Preview by Yahoo


There does seem to be something different about the sound of an M300 as opposed to an M400 playing the same tape set, but I can't put my finger on what it is although that has always been the me llotron sound I wanted. Unfortunately the sound of my M400 has always been a disappointment I suppose there is quite a big difference between a Mark II an M400 and a Chamberlin playing the 3 violins.


This link is to a little demo on my Soundcloud channel comparing the sound of my M400, the Streetly samples of the M300a from M-tron Pro and the M300a samples in Redtron SE. I am not going to buy an M300!


Mark


PS If anyone knows why the M300 sounds different I would really like to know.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Not the M300a violins again!

2016-07-09 by David Jacques

From Mike Pinder's website. (I think he would know)

"The Moody Blues’ sound evolved with each new album, and so did the Mellotron. The next model was the M-300, produced form 1968-70. This unit was smaller in size/weight, with a single 52-note keyboard. This unit was first heard on the album On the Threshold of a Dreamwith the tune “Never comes the day.”

It was also used on the later LP Seventh Sojourn. In fact, if you have your vinyl copy, you can see Mike playing the M-300 (inside photo on the liner jacket). This unit is rare, only 55 were produced."




Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 9, 2016, at 11:34 AM, David Jacques hammonddave2004@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

The M300 strings were different recordings than the MKII and M400. Check out the Moodies "Seventh Sojourn". Pinder used an M300 on that album. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 8, 2016, at 9:51 PM, markpringnz@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Sorry to air my obsession with this tapeset again, I was watching this video of Hessel's:


Mellotron M300 demonstration

Mellotron M300 demonstration
Here's a little demo of my Mellotron M300, which is up for auction on eBay (item # 281566538559 ).
View on www.youtube.com
Preview by Yahoo


There does seem to be something different about the sound of an M300 as opposed to an M400 playing the same tape set, but I can't put my finger on what it is although that has always been the mellotron sound I wanted. Unfortunately the sound of my M400 has always been a disappointment I suppose there is quite a big difference between a Mark II an M400 and a Chamberlin playing the 3 violins.


This link is to a little demo on my Soundcloud channel comparing the sound of my M400, the Streetly samples of the M300a from M-tron Pro and the M300a samples in Redtron SE. I am not going to buy an M300!


Mark


PS If anyone knows why the M300 sounds different I would really like to know.

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Not the M300a violins again!

2016-07-09 by Martin

Watching and Waiting is still my favourite and it's M300B Violin. Singular! 

M

Streetly Electronics on my iPad

On 9 Jul 2016, at 19:54, David Jacques hammonddave2004@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

From Mike Pinder's website. (I think he would know)

"The Moody Blues’ sound evolved with each new album, and so did the Mellotron. The next model was the M-300, produced form 1968-70. This unit was smaller in size/weight, with a single 52-note keyboard. This unit was first heard on the album On the Threshold of a Dreamwith the tune “Never comes the day.”

It was also used on the later LP Seventh Sojourn. In fact, if you have your vinyl copy, you can see Mike playing the M-300 (inside photo on the liner jacket). This unit is rare, only 55 were produced."




Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 9, 2016, at 11:34 AM, David Jacques hammonddave2004@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

The M300 strings were different recordings than the MKII and M400. Check out the Moodies "Seventh Sojourn". Pinder used an M300 on that album. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 8, 2016, at 9:51 PM, markpringnz@yahoo.com [newmellotrongroup] <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Sorry to air my obsession with this tapeset again, I was watching this video of Hessel's:


Mellotron M300 demonstration

Mellotron M300 demonstration
Here's a little demo of my Mellotron M300, which is up for auction on eBay (item # 281566538559 ).
View on www.youtube.com
Preview by Yahoo


There does seem to be something different about the sound of an M300 as opposed to an M400 playing the same tape set, but I can't put my finger on what it is although that has always been the mellotron sound I wanted. Unfortunately the sound of my M400 has always been a disappointment I suppose there is quite a big difference between a Mark II an M400 and a Chamberlin playing the 3 violins.


This link is to a little demo on my Soundcloud channel comparing the sound of my M400, the Streetly samples of the M300a from M-tron Pro and the M300a samples in Redtron SE. I am not going to buy an M300!


Mark


PS If anyone knows why the M300 sounds different I would really like to know.