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Ethical Issue

Ethical Issue

2014-02-23 by Mike Dickson

I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.

The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.

Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of what they are saying?

--

Mike Dickson

Edinburgh

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

2014-02-23 by Personal

If the work/performance is solely your own, tell them to pound sand. If it is not then the ethical issues become shared. My opinion.

Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

>I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his
>YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am
>credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.
>
>The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock
>credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not
>necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.
>
>Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of
>what they are saying?
>
>--
>*Mike Dickson*
>*Edinburgh*

I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.

The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.

Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of what they are saying?

--

Mike Dickson

Edinburgh

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

2014-02-23 by Mike Dickson

'Pound sand'?

On 23 February 2014 04:26, Personal <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:

If the work/performance is solely your own, tell them to pound sand. If it is not then the ethical issues become shared. My opinion.

Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

>I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his
>YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am
>credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.
>
>The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock
>credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not
>necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.
>
>Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of
>what they are saying?
>
>--
>*Mike Dickson*
>*Edinburgh*

I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.

The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.

Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of what they are saying?

--
Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

--
Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

2014-02-23 by Tony Moffett

Yes Mike “pound sand up your ass, not you but your detractors.

He’s jealous of your obvious talents.

All the best,

Tony

On Feb 22, 2014, at 11:53 PM, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

'Pound sand'?

On 23 February 2014 04:26, Personal <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:

If the work/performance is solely your own, tell them to pound sand. If it is not then the ethical issues become shared. My opinion.
Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

>I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his
>YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am
>credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.
>
>The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock
>credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not
>necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.
>
>Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of
>what they are saying?
>
>--
>*Mike Dickson*
>*Edinburgh*

I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.

The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.

Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of what they are saying?

--
Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

--
Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

2014-02-23 by Vance Pomeroy

Mike -
I'm sure Frank is meaning something like:
Go fly a kite
Stick it in your ear
Take a short walk off a long pier

My opinion is similar - If the work is yours, the control is yours; it is fully acceptable to NOT have your work associated with something with which you do not wish to be associated - regardless of the user's disclaimers.
Your work, you creation, your blood, your life. To share these with the unworthy is more than a shame.

Vance

On 2/22/2014 8:53 PM, Mike Dickson wrote:

'Pound sand'?

On 23 February 2014 04:26, Personal <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:

If the work/performance is solely your own, tell them to pound sand. If it is not then the ethical issues become shared. My opinion.

Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

>I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his
>YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am
>credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.
>
>The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock
>credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not
>necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.
>
>Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of
>what they are saying?
>
>--

>*Mike Dickson*
>*Edinburgh*

I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.

The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.

Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of what they are saying?

--

Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

--

Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

2014-02-23 by Andy Thompson

From: Mike Dickson

Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:12 AM

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.

The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.

Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of what they are saying?

To use a more British idiom (assuming it actually is), tell him to poke it.

Andy

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

2014-02-23 by Mike Dickson

I told him to pound sand as suggested. It was really more a question regarding whether you ought to assay the ethics of everyone who wants to use your output. I've had a lot of requests from people who want to use my music and I tend to say okay to them all without necessarily reviewing what it is that they are doing with it.

I casually asked this guy what he was doing and he mentioned social activism which made me a tad nervous, so I did a bit of judicious Googling and found he was a registered sex offender who appeared to be in complete denial of his offences and who seemed to be advocating 'fair play for paedophiles' (I paraphrase) and maintained that being registered like this is completely unfair and unconstitutional, etc etc.

Aside from my reservations about all of this, those of you who know me better might also know that my 'real job' involves putting people just like this away in jail. A slight conflict of interests, you might say.

Mike

On 23 February 2014 09:50, Andy Thompson <andy.thompson@virgin.net> wrote:

From: Mike Dickson

Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:12 AM

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.

The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.

Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of what they are saying?

To use a more British idiom (assuming it actually is), tell him to poke it.

Andy

--
Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

2014-02-23 by fdoddy@aol.com

'Pound sand'- American for "go to hell"

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 22, 2014 11:53 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

On 23 February 2014 04:26, Personal <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:

If the work/performance is solely your own, tell them to pound sand. If it is not then the ethical issues become shared. My opinion.

Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

>I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his
>YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am
>credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.
>
>The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock
>credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not
>necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.
>
>Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of
>what they are saying?
>
>--

>*Mike Dickson*
>*Edinburgh*

I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.

The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.

Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of what they are saying?

--

Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

--

Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

2014-02-23 by Hammonddave

British for "Piss Off!"

On Feb 23, 2014, at 6:28, fdoddy@aol.com wrote:

'Pound sand'- American for "go to hell"

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 22, 2014 11:53 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

On 23 February 2014 04:26, Personal <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:

If the work/performance is solely your own, tell them to pound sand. If it is not then the ethical issues become shared. My opinion.

Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

>I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his
>YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am
>credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.
>
>The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock
>credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not
>necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.
>
>Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of
>what they are saying?
>
>--

>*Mike Dickson*
>*Edinburgh*

I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.

The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.

Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of what they are saying?

--

Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

--

Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

2014-02-23 by Tony Moffett

The guy is jealous of Mike’s talent, and that sure doesn’t give him (the guy in question)the right to use Mike’s fine work without permission or compensation.

Regarding the “pound sand” comment don’t forget the grade school lesson of “sticks and stones”.

I consider the source and forget it.

Insults aren’t worth processing.

Tony

On Feb 23, 2014, at 9:28 AM, fdoddy@aol.com wrote:

'Pound sand'- American for "go to hell"

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 22, 2014 11:53 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

On 23 February 2014 04:26, Personal <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:

If the work/performance is solely your own, tell them to pound sand. If it is not then the ethical issues become shared. My opinion.
Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:
>I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his
>YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am
>credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.
>
>The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock
>credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not
>necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.
>
>Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of
>what they are saying?
>
>--
>*Mike Dickson*
>*Edinburgh*

I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.

The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.

Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of what they are saying?

--
Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

--
Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

2014-02-23 by fdoddy@aol.com

:)

fd

-----Original Message-----
From: Hammonddave <hammonddave2004@yahoo.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Feb 23, 2014 9:34 am
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

British for "Piss Off!"

On Feb 23, 2014, at 6:28, fdoddy@aol.com wrote:

'Pound sand'- American for "go to hell"

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Feb 22, 2014 11:53 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

On 23 February 2014 04:26, Personal <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:

If the work/performance is solely your own, tell them to pound sand. If it is not then the ethical issues become shared. My opinion.

Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

>I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his
>YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am
>credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.
>
>The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock
>credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not
>necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.
>
>Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of
>what they are saying?
>
>--

>*Mike Dickson*
>*Edinburgh*

I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.

The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.

Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of what they are saying?

--

Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

--

Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

2014-02-23 by Nic Lewis

Mike (and group)

My personal opinion is to decline. Stock credit statement or not, in my eperience your work will be associated with the cause (ironically it may have been better if the music was used with NO credit).

As to limiting what can be used based on context and message I would say an emphatic yes - control (as best you can) what your work is associated with.

I talk from experience of having material (photographic, not musical) used trhis way

Just my 2d's worth.

Nic

At 04:12 23/02/2014, Mike Dickson wrote:

I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.

The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.

Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of what they are saying?

--
Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

2014-02-23 by Personal

Well then, let me rephrase my suggested reponse. Tell him to go fuck himself. It's the same as, "pound sand," but a bit more obvious.

Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

>I told him to *pound sand* as suggested. It was really more a question
>regarding whether you ought to assay the ethics of everyone who wants to
>use your output. I've had a lot of requests from people who want to use my
>music and I tend to say okay to them all without necessarily reviewing what
>it is that they are doing with it.
>
>I casually asked this guy what he was doing and he mentioned *social
>activism* which made me a tad nervous, so I did a bit of judicious Googling
>and found he was a registered sex offender who appeared to be in complete
>denial of his offences and who seemed to be advocating *'fair play for
>paedophiles'* (I paraphrase) and maintained that being registered like this
>is completely unfair and unconstitutional, etc etc.
>
>Aside from my *reservations *about all of this, those of you who know me
>better might also know that my 'real job' involves putting people just like
>this away in jail. A slight conflict of interests, you might say.
>
>Mike
>
>
>On 23 February 2014 09:50, Andy Thompson <andy.thompson@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:12 AM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue
>>
>>
>>
>> I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his
>> YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am
>> credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.
>>
>> The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock
>> credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not
>> necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.
>>
>> Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of
>> what they are saying?
>>
>> To use a more British idiom (assuming it actually is), tell him to poke it.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>--
>*Mike Dickson*
>*Edinburgh*

I told him to pound sand as suggested. It was really more a question regarding whether you ought to assay the ethics of everyone who wants to use your output. I've had a lot of requests from people who want to use my music and I tend to say okay to them all without necessarily reviewing what it is that they are doing with it.

I casually asked this guy what he was doing and he mentioned social activism which made me a tad nervous, so I did a bit of judicious Googling and found he was a registered sex offender who appeared to be in complete denial of his offences and who seemed to be advocating 'fair play for paedophiles' (I paraphrase) and maintained that being registered like this is completely unfair and unconstitutional, etc etc.

Aside from my reservations about all of this, those of you who know me better might also know that my 'real job' involves putting people just like this away in jail. A slight conflict of interests, you might say.

Mike

On 23 February 2014 09:50, Andy Thompson <andy.thompson@virgin.net> wrote:

From: Mike Dickson

Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:12 AM

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.

The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.

Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of what they are saying?

To use a more British idiom (assuming it actually is), tell him to poke it.

Andy

--
Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

2014-02-24 by john barrick

Mike, knowing your day job, i was thinking that it can't be very often that the paedophile comes directly to you and knocks on your door, so to speak.

john

On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Personal <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:

Well then, let me rephrase my suggested reponse. Tell him to go fuck himself. It's the same as, "pound sand," but a bit more obvious.

Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

>I told him to *pound sand* as suggested. It was really more a question

>regarding whether you ought to assay the ethics of everyone who wants to
>use your output. I've had a lot of requests from people who want to use my
>music and I tend to say okay to them all without necessarily reviewing what
>it is that they are doing with it.
>
>I casually asked this guy what he was doing and he mentioned *social
>activism* which made me a tad nervous, so I did a bit of judicious Googling

>and found he was a registered sex offender who appeared to be in complete
>denial of his offences and who seemed to be advocating *'fair play for
>paedophiles'* (I paraphrase) and maintained that being registered like this

>is completely unfair and unconstitutional, etc etc.
>
>Aside from my *reservations *about all of this, those of you who know me

>better might also know that my 'real job' involves putting people just like
>this away in jail. A slight conflict of interests, you might say.
>
>Mike
>
>
>On 23 February 2014 09:50, Andy Thompson <andy.thompson@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:12 AM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

>>
>>
>>
>> I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his
>> YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am
>> credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.
>>
>> The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock
>> credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not
>> necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.
>>
>> Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of
>> what they are saying?
>>
>> To use a more British idiom (assuming it actually is), tell him to poke it.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>--
>*Mike Dickson*
>*Edinburgh*

I told him to pound sand as suggested. It was really more a question regarding whether you ought to assay the ethics of everyone who wants to use your output. I've had a lot of requests from people who want to use my music and I tend to say okay to them all without necessarily reviewing what it is that they are doing with it.

I casually asked this guy what he was doing and he mentioned social activism which made me a tad nervous, so I did a bit of judicious Googling and found he was a registered sex offender who appeared to be in complete denial of his offences and who seemed to be advocating 'fair play for paedophiles' (I paraphrase) and maintained that being registered like this is completely unfair and unconstitutional, etc etc.

Aside from my reservations about all of this, those of you who know me better might also know that my 'real job' involves putting people just like this away in jail. A slight conflict of interests, you might say.

Mike

On 23 February 2014 09:50, Andy Thompson <andy.thompson@virgin.net> wrote:

From: Mike Dickson

Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:12 AM

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.

The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.

Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of what they are saying?

To use a more British idiom (assuming it actually is), tell him to poke it.

Andy

--
Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

--
john barrick

*Leo got it right the first time*
*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

2014-02-24 by Mike Dickson

Yes. Usually it's the other way around. :-)

On 24 February 2014 07:23, john barrick <barrickjohn262@gmail.com> wrote:

Mike, knowing your day job, i was thinking that it can't be very often that the paedophile comes directly to you and knocks on your door, so to speak.

john

On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Personal <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:

Well then, let me rephrase my suggested reponse. Tell him to go fuck himself. It's the same as, "pound sand," but a bit more obvious.

Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

>I told him to *pound sand* as suggested. It was really more a question

>regarding whether you ought to assay the ethics of everyone who wants to
>use your output. I've had a lot of requests from people who want to use my
>music and I tend to say okay to them all without necessarily reviewing what
>it is that they are doing with it.
>
>I casually asked this guy what he was doing and he mentioned *social
>activism* which made me a tad nervous, so I did a bit of judicious Googling

>and found he was a registered sex offender who appeared to be in complete
>denial of his offences and who seemed to be advocating *'fair play for
>paedophiles'* (I paraphrase) and maintained that being registered like this

>is completely unfair and unconstitutional, etc etc.
>
>Aside from my *reservations *about all of this, those of you who know me

>better might also know that my 'real job' involves putting people just like
>this away in jail. A slight conflict of interests, you might say.
>
>Mike
>
>
>On 23 February 2014 09:50, Andy Thompson <andy.thompson@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:12 AM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

>>
>>
>>
>> I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his
>> YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am
>> credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.
>>
>> The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock
>> credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not
>> necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.
>>
>> Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of
>> what they are saying?
>>
>> To use a more British idiom (assuming it actually is), tell him to poke it.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>--
>*Mike Dickson*
>*Edinburgh*

I told him to pound sand as suggested. It was really more a question regarding whether you ought to assay the ethics of everyone who wants to use your output. I've had a lot of requests from people who want to use my music and I tend to say okay to them all without necessarily reviewing what it is that they are doing with it.

I casually asked this guy what he was doing and he mentioned social activism which made me a tad nervous, so I did a bit of judicious Googling and found he was a registered sex offender who appeared to be in complete denial of his offences and who seemed to be advocating 'fair play for paedophiles' (I paraphrase) and maintained that being registered like this is completely unfair and unconstitutional, etc etc.

Aside from my reservations about all of this, those of you who know me better might also know that my 'real job' involves putting people just like this away in jail. A slight conflict of interests, you might say.

Mike

On 23 February 2014 09:50, Andy Thompson <andy.thompson@virgin.net> wrote:

From: Mike Dickson

Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:12 AM

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.

The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.

Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of what they are saying?

To use a more British idiom (assuming it actually is), tell him to poke it.

Andy

--
Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

--
john barrick

*Leo got it right the first time*

*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*

--
Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

2014-02-24 by gino wong

I'd run a very hard bargain. I would take a bad guys money in a minute, spend it on whores and charity

Of course i don't think I matter at all in the greater scheme of any damm thing.

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 2:45 AM, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes. Usually it's the other way around. :-)

On 24 February 2014 07:23, john barrick <barrickjohn262@gmail.com> wrote:

Mike, knowing your day job, i was thinking that it can't be very often that the paedophile comes directly to you and knocks on your door, so to speak.

john

On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Personal <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:

Well then, let me rephrase my suggested reponse. Tell him to go fuck himself. It's the same as, "pound sand," but a bit more obvious.

Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

>I told him to *pound sand* as suggested. It was really more a question

>regarding whether you ought to assay the ethics of everyone who wants to
>use your output. I've had a lot of requests from people who want to use my
>music and I tend to say okay to them all without necessarily reviewing what
>it is that they are doing with it.
>
>I casually asked this guy what he was doing and he mentioned *social
>activism* which made me a tad nervous, so I did a bit of judicious Googling

>and found he was a registered sex offender who appeared to be in complete
>denial of his offences and who seemed to be advocating *'fair play for
>paedophiles'* (I paraphrase) and maintained that being registered like this

>is completely unfair and unconstitutional, etc etc.
>
>Aside from my *reservations *about all of this, those of you who know me

>better might also know that my 'real job' involves putting people just like
>this away in jail. A slight conflict of interests, you might say.
>
>Mike
>
>
>On 23 February 2014 09:50, Andy Thompson <andy.thompson@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:12 AM
>> *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> *Subject:* [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

>>
>>
>>
>> I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his
>> YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am
>> credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.
>>
>> The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock
>> credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not
>> necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.
>>
>> Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of
>> what they are saying?
>>
>> To use a more British idiom (assuming it actually is), tell him to poke it.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>--
>*Mike Dickson*
>*Edinburgh*

I told him to pound sand as suggested. It was really more a question regarding whether you ought to assay the ethics of everyone who wants to use your output. I've had a lot of requests from people who want to use my music and I tend to say okay to them all without necessarily reviewing what it is that they are doing with it.

I casually asked this guy what he was doing and he mentioned social activism which made me a tad nervous, so I did a bit of judicious Googling and found he was a registered sex offender who appeared to be in complete denial of his offences and who seemed to be advocating 'fair play for paedophiles' (I paraphrase) and maintained that being registered like this is completely unfair and unconstitutional, etc etc.

Aside from my reservations about all of this, those of you who know me better might also know that my 'real job' involves putting people just like this away in jail. A slight conflict of interests, you might say.

Mike

On 23 February 2014 09:50, Andy Thompson <andy.thompson@virgin.net> wrote:

From: Mike Dickson

Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 4:12 AM

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.

The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.

Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of what they are saying?

To use a more British idiom (assuming it actually is), tell him to poke it.

Andy

--
Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

--
john barrick

*Leo got it right the first time*

*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*

--
Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

--

Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

Ginowong@gmail.com

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

2014-02-25 by Chris Dale

If you want to make a real difference - don't bother insulting this guy. It's 'cliche' and he's probably heard it all before.

Just tell him the reasons why you don't want your music associated with him.

Tell him you don't agree or identify with his politics and tell him what you do (but not where you work or anything else)

Keep it respectful (something he doesn't expect) and keep it intelligent.

It will give him something to think about on a deeper level, which is what he actually needs.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.

The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.

Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of what they are saying?

--
Mike Dickson
Edinburgh

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Ethical Issue

2014-02-26 by lsf5275@aol.com

Nah, answer him with one word. No!

In a message dated 2/25/2014 12:00:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com writes:

If you want to make a real difference - don't bother insulting this guy. It's 'cliche' and he's probably heard it all before.

Just tell him the reasons why you don't want your music associated with him.

Tell him you don't agree or identify with his politics and tell him what you do (but not where you work or anything else)

Keep it respectful (something he doesn't expect) and keep it intelligent.

It will give him something to think about on a deeper level, which is what he actually needs.

On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

I've been contacted by someone who wants to use my music on one of his YouTube videos. Normally I say 'fair enough' and only ask that I am credited, but this thing there is a slight difference.

The guy is an advocate of views I find ethically repugnant. His stock credit does say that others whose work is credited in his videos do not necessarily agree with his views, etc, but somehow that doesn't seem enough.

Do you think I ought to limit who can use what I produce on the basis of what they are saying?

--

Mike Dickson
Edinburgh