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Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-10-12 by Mark

Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.





I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.

Mark

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-10-13 by gino wong

Analog polysynths are great but a pro 1 did things the Prophet 5 only dreamed of, Minis and Synthi A's are monophonic for a very good reason.


On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.





I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.

Mark




--

Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics



Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-10-13 by Mark

Is there a reason other than the cost of production? I like the sound of the Prophet 5 and the Yamaha CS80 and of course the minimoog, I am not as impressed by any of the analog synths still in production, there is just something missing from the modern moogs and the Prophet 08. I quite like the Arturia minibrute and the MS 20 mini.

Mark


On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:56 AM, gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Analog polysynths are great but a pro 1 did things the Prophet 5 only dreamed of, Minis and Synthi A's are monophonic for a very good reason.


On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.





I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.

Mark




--

Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics




RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-10-13 by Gary Brumm

Hello Gino!

 

To be fair the Prophet 5 did even more things that a Pro One never could.  But that classic lead sound that Tony Banks used with his Pro One was just plain perfect for those solos!  Other than a couple of sounds the Pro One is pretty cheesy until (as Genesis did) you beef it up with effects.  With the push of a button the Profit 5 became monophonic in unison mode but it was a much fatter sound than the Pro One… especially the rare Rev.1 which was by far the best sounding but least reliable of the series.  I wish I had never sold mine.  My Rev 3’s and Prophet 10 never did have the bite of the Rev. 1.  I got my Rev. 1 for $500 from a friend at Sequential Circuits after Eddie Jobson turned it in for a newer model.  The SSM chips which were designed by Emu sounded great but were prone to failure.  After the Rev. 1 they moved to the Curtis chips and never sounded the same.  Emu actually designed the scanning keyboard for Sequential as well.  I knew people at both companies well so I got some good deals and factory training.  They were both groundbreaking companies with sounds you hear on more records and soundtracks than you can imagine.

 

Cheers!

 

Gary

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:57 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

Analog polysynths are great but a pro 1 did things the Prophet 5 only dreamed of, Minis and Synthi A's are monophonic for a very good reason.

 

On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.

 

 

 

 

 

I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.

 

Mark

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-10-13 by gino wong

It is in the hands of the player to some degree, set up and economies of scale. There is never any such thing as a one to one comparison.  The CS80 is without a doubt the best poly synth of all and it also is over 200 pounds and requires careful maintenence. I truly wish I still had one, the DX7 was just as good but too difficult to program.  With some of my charges I sorted them out with delays, compressors and other fx.  I use a bandpass filter on the output of any of my lead synths. With fx and some modding almost anything can be made into a really useful rig.

When i first could afford a synth , long ago one of the first things I did was take an Arp Odyssey and install a switch to make the filter either Arp or Moog,  I added outboard compressor, big muff, Electric Mistresss. and a tape deck modded for  delay and reverb in the amp. I started with that indvicualistic sapproach.


On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
 

Hello Gino!

 

To be fair the Prophet 5 did even more things that a Pro One never could.  But that classic lead sound that Tony Banks used with his Pro One was just plain perfect for those solos!  Other than a couple of sounds the Pro One is pretty cheesy until (as Genesis did) you beef it up with effects.  With the push of a button the Profit 5 became monophonic in unison mode but it was a much fatter sound than the Pro One… especially the rare Rev.1 which was by far the best sounding but least reliable of the series.  I wish I had never sold mine.  My Rev 3’s and Prophet 10 never did have the bite of the Rev. 1.  I got my Rev. 1 for $500 from a friend at Sequential Circuits after Eddie Jobson turned it in for a newer model.  The SSM chips which were designed by Emu sounded great but were prone to failure.  After the Rev. 1 they moved to the Curtis chips and never sounded the same.  Emu actually designed the scanning keyboard for Sequential as well.  I knew people at both companies well so I got some good deals and factory training.  They were both groundbreaking companies with sounds you hear on more records and soundtracks than you can imagine.

 

Cheers!

 

Gary

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:57 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

Analog polysynths are great but a pro 1 did things the Prophet 5 only dreamed of, Minis and Synthi A's are monophonic for a very good reason.

 

On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.

 

 

 

 

 

I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.

 

Mark

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 




--

Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics



Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-10-13 by Andy Thompson

 
 
From: Gary Brumm
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:58 PM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 

Gary
 
Sorry, but let me be the first to say that Banks never used a Sequential Pro-One, but an ARP Pro-Soloist. The rev.2.2 Prophet’s pretty fat in unison mode, too  :-)
 
Andy T.

 

To be fair the Prophet 5 did even more things that a Pro One never could.  But that classic lead sound that Tony Banks used with his Pro One was just plain perfect for those solos!  Other than a couple of sounds the Pro One is pretty cheesy until (as Genesis did) you beef it up with effects.  With the push of a button the Profit 5 became monophonic in unison mode but it was a much fatter sound than the Pro One… especially the rare Rev.1 which was by far the best sounding but least reliable of the series.  I wish I had never sold mine.  My Rev 3’s and Prophet 10 never did have the bite of the Rev. 1.  I got my Rev. 1 for $500 from a friend at Sequential Circuits after Eddie Jobson turned it in for a newer model.  The SSM chips which were designed by Emu sounded great but were prone to failure.  After the Rev. 1 they moved to the Curtis chips and never sounded the same.  Emu actually designed the scanning keyboard for Sequential as well.  I knew people at both companies well so I got some good deals and factory training.  They were both groundbreaking companies with sounds you hear on more records and soundtracks than you can imagine.

 

Cheers!

 

Gary

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:57 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

Analog polysynths are great but a pro 1 did things the Prophet 5 only dreamed of, Minis and Synthi A's are monophonic for a very good reason.

 

On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.

 

 

 

 

 

I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.

 

Mark

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-10-13 by Gary Brumm

I don’t think you can say “without a doubt” any particular synth is best.  It’s really personal taste.  I never had a CS80 but did have a CS60 for a while.  I was never a fan of the DX-7.  I had a Synergy during that time that I found to be much better for me at least.  I did have a couple of ARP Odyssey’s.  One of them eventually had its keyboard chopped off and setup to run as a remote keyboard.  Those were good days of electronic music for me.  At the end of the day it’s just about getting the sound you are after.  Much of the famous Mellotron tracks are buried in reverb or chorus.  The original sound of the instrument gets buried but if it gets you the sound you are after then that is all that matters.  All these things are just tools you use to produce music and there are no rules about how there sound can be modded.  That is the fun thing about it all.  I would love to have another Big Muff for my guitar rig.  Mine kept getting borrowed or destroyed.  Oh well, that was rock and roll in the 70’s……..

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:57 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

It is in the hands of the player to some degree, set up and economies of scale. There is never any such thing as a one to one comparison.  The CS80 is without a doubt the best poly synth of all and it also is over 200 pounds and requires careful maintenence. I truly wish I still had one, the DX7 was just as good but too difficult to program.  With some of my charges I sorted them out with delays, compressors and other fx.  I use a bandpass filter on the output of any of my lead synths. With fx and some modding almost anything can be made into a really useful rig.

 

When i first could afford a synth , long ago one of the first things I did was take an Arp Odyssey and install a switch to make the filter either Arp or Moog,  I added outboard compressor, big muff, Electric Mistresss. and a tape deck modded for  delay and reverb in the amp. I started with that indvicualistic sapproach.

 

On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

 

Hello Gino!

 

To be fair the Prophet 5 did even more things that a Pro One never could.  But that classic lead sound that Tony Banks used with his Pro One was just plain perfect for those solos!  Other than a couple of sounds the Pro One is pretty cheesy until (as Genesis did) you beef it up with effects.  With the push of a button the Profit 5 became monophonic in unison mode but it was a much fatter sound than the Pro One… especially the rare Rev.1 which was by far the best sounding but least reliable of the series.  I wish I had never sold mine.  My Rev 3’s and Prophet 10 never did have the bite of the Rev. 1.  I got my Rev. 1 for $500 from a friend at Sequential Circuits after Eddie Jobson turned it in for a newer model.  The SSM chips which were designed by Emu sounded great but were prone to failure.  After the Rev. 1 they moved to the Curtis chips and never sounded the same.  Emu actually designed the scanning keyboard for Sequential as well.  I knew people at both companies well so I got some good deals and factory training.  They were both groundbreaking companies with sounds you hear on more records and soundtracks than you can imagine.

 

Cheers!

 

Gary

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:57 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

Analog polysynths are great but a pro 1 did things the Prophet 5 only dreamed of, Minis and Synthi A's are monophonic for a very good reason.

 

On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.

 

 

 

 

 

I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.

 

Mark

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-10-13 by Gary Brumm

Andy, Thank you for the correction!  You are absolutely right.  Sorry about that! 

As far as unison mode goes my Profit 10 was very fat in unison but it still never

had the bite and texture of the Rev. 1.  The later models still sounded good but

they were never the same without the SSM chips.  I would imagine Rev. 1s are

quite rare and the availability of the SSM chips will be depleted at some point

(but I still know where a few are! J)

 

Cheers,

 

Gary

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Thompson
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 1:26 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

 

 

From: Gary Brumm

Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:58 PM

Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 


Gary

 

Sorry, but let me be the first to say that Banks never used a Sequential Pro-One, but an ARP Pro-Soloist. The rev.2.2 Prophet’s pretty fat in unison mode, too  :-)

 

Andy T.

 

To be fair the Prophet 5 did even more things that a Pro One never could.  But that classic lead sound that Tony Banks used with his Pro One was just plain perfect for those solos!  Other than a couple of sounds the Pro One is pretty cheesy until (as Genesis did) you beef it up with effects.  With the push of a button the Profit 5 became monophonic in unison mode but it was a much fatter sound than the Pro One… especially the rare Rev.1 which was by far the best sounding but least reliable of the series.  I wish I had never sold mine.  My Rev 3’s and Prophet 10 never did have the bite of the Rev. 1.  I got my Rev. 1 for $500 from a friend at Sequential Circuits after Eddie Jobson turned it in for a newer model.  The SSM chips which were designed by Emu sounded great but were prone to failure.  After the Rev. 1 they moved to the Curtis chips and never sounded the same.  Emu actually designed the scanning keyboard for Sequential as well.  I knew people at both companies well so I got some good deals and factory training.  They were both groundbreaking companies with sounds you hear on more records and soundtracks than you can imagine.

 

Cheers!

 

Gary

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:57 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

Analog polysynths are great but a pro 1 did things the Prophet 5 only dreamed of, Minis and Synthi A's are monophonic for a very good reason.

 

On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.

 

 

 

 

 

I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.

 

Mark

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-10-13 by fdoddy@aol.com

I like the limits of my mini and my arp, same for the monopoly.  I don't get into the big block mega chord things and the crazy mod routings make me go where polysynths don't normally go.  I think an OB two-voice would be fun! Then again, so would a JP-8..oh..who can decide?

fritz



-----Original Message-----
From: gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:56 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 
Analog polysynths are great but a pro 1 did things the Prophet 5 only dreamed of, Minis and Synthi A's are monophonic for a very good reason.


On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.





I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.

Mark




--

Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics



Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-10-13 by fdoddy@aol.com

Never heard a prophet I didn't like :>)

fritz



-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Thompson <andy.thompson@virgin.net>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 4:25 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 
 
 
From: Gary Brumm
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:58 PM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 

Gary
 
Sorry, but let me be the first to say that Banks never used a Sequential Pro-One, but an ARP Pro-Soloist. The rev.2.2 Prophet’s pretty fat in unison mode, too  :-)
 
Andy T.
 
To be fair the Prophet 5 did even more things that a Pro One never could.  But that classic lead sound that Tony Banks used with his Pro One was just plain perfect for those solos!  Other than a couple of sounds the Pro One is pretty cheesy until (as Genesis did) you beef it up with effects.  With the push of a button the Profit 5 became monophonic in unison mode but it was a much fatter sound than the Pro One… especially the rare Rev.1 which was by far the best sounding but least reliable of the series.  I wish I had never sold mine.  My Rev 3’s and Prophet 10 never did have the bite of the Rev. 1.  I got my Rev. 1 for $500 from a friend at Sequential Circuits after Eddie Jobson turned it in for a newer model.  The SSM chips which were designed by Emu sounded great but were prone to failure.  After the Rev. 1 they moved to the Curtis chips and never sounded the same.  Emu actually designed the scanning keyboard for Sequential as well.  I knew people at both companies well so I got some good deals and factory training.  They were both groundbreaking companies with sounds you hear on more records and soundtracks than you can imagine.
 
Cheers!
 
Gary
 
 
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:57 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 
 
Analog polysynths are great but a pro 1 did things the Prophet 5 only dreamed of, Minis and Synthi A's are monophonic for a very good reason.
 
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.
 
 
 
 
 
I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.
 
Mark
 


 
--
 
Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics
 
 
 

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-10-13 by Gary Brumm

Hello Fritz,

 

Beware of false Prophets!    

…no idea what I meant by that J

 

Every time I hear an Alan Howarth 80’s movie theme (Escape from New York…..) or the Pink Floyd helicopter sounds I remember all of my Prophets (5 v1,5 v5,and 10) fondly!

 

Cheers!

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 3:09 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

Never heard a prophet I didn't like :>)

fritz

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Thompson <andy.thompson@virgin.net>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 4:25 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

 

From: Gary Brumm

Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:58 PM

Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 


Gary

 

Sorry, but let me be the first to say that Banks never used a Sequential Pro-One, but an ARP Pro-Soloist. The rev.2.2 Prophet’s pretty fat in unison mode, too  :-)

 

Andy T.

 

To be fair the Prophet 5 did even more things that a Pro One never could.  But that classic lead sound that Tony Banks used with his Pro One was just plain perfect for those solos!  Other than a couple of sounds the Pro One is pretty cheesy until (as Genesis did) you beef it up with effects.  With the push of a button the Profit 5 became monophonic in unison mode but it was a much fatter sound than the Pro One… especially the rare Rev.1 which was by far the best sounding but least reliable of the series.  I wish I had never sold mine.  My Rev 3’s and Prophet 10 never did have the bite of the Rev. 1.  I got my Rev. 1 for $500 from a friend at Sequential Circuits after Eddie Jobson turned it in for a newer model.  The SSM chips which were designed by Emu sounded great but were prone to failure.  After the Rev. 1 they moved to the Curtis chips and never sounded the same.  Emu actually designed the scanning keyboard for Sequential as well.  I knew people at both companies well so I got some good deals and factory training.  They were both groundbreaking companies with sounds you hear on more records and soundtracks than you can imagine.

 

Cheers!

 

Gary

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:57 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

Analog polysynths are great but a pro 1 did things the Prophet 5 only dreamed of, Minis and Synthi A's are monophonic for a very good reason.

 

On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.

 

 

 

 

 

I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.

 

Mark

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-10-13 by fdoddy@aol.com

haha!



-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:24 pm
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 
Hello Fritz,
 
Beware of false Prophets!    
…no idea what I meant by that J
 
Every time I hear an Alan Howarth 80’s movie theme (Escape from New York…..) or the Pink Floyd helicopter sounds I remember all of my Prophets (5 v1,5 v5,and 10) fondly!
 
Cheers!
 
 
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 3:09 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 
 
Never heard a prophet I didn't like :>)

fritz
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Thompson <andy.thompson@virgin.net>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 4:25 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 
 
 
From: Gary Brumm
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:58 PM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 

Gary
 
Sorry, but let me be the first to say that Banks never used a Sequential Pro-One, but an ARP Pro-Soloist. The rev.2.2 Prophet’s pretty fat in unison mode, too  :-)
 
Andy T.
 
To be fair the Prophet 5 did even more things that a Pro One never could.  But that classic lead sound that Tony Banks used with his Pro One was just plain perfect for those solos!  Other than a couple of sounds the Pro One is pretty cheesy until (as Genesis did) you beef it up with effects.  With the push of a button the Profit 5 became monophonic in unison mode but it was a much fatter sound than the Pro One… especially the rare Rev.1 which was by far the best sounding but least reliable of the series.  I wish I had never sold mine.  My Rev 3’s and Prophet 10 never did have the bite of the Rev. 1.  I got my Rev. 1 for $500 from a friend at Sequential Circuits after Eddie Jobson turned it in for a newer model.  The SSM chips which were designed by Emu sounded great but were prone to failure.  After the Rev. 1 they moved to the Curtis chips and never sounded the same.  Emu actually designed the scanning keyboard for Sequential as well.  I knew people at both companies well so I got some good deals and factory training.  They were both groundbreaking companies with sounds you hear on more records and soundtracks than you can imagine.
 
Cheers!
 
Gary
 
 
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:57 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 
 
Analog polysynths are great but a pro 1 did things the Prophet 5 only dreamed of, Minis and Synthi A's are monophonic for a very good reason.
 
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.
 
 
 
 
 
I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.
 
Mark
 


 
--
 
Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics
 
 
 

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-10-13 by fdoddy@aol.com

for that big polysynth sound, I was always a fan of the underrated Korg Trident.  I'd love to get one of those...


fritz



-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:25 pm
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 
I don’t think you can say “without a doubt” any particular synth is best.  It’s really personal taste.  I never had a CS80 but did have a CS60 for a while.  I was never a fan of the DX-7.  I had a Synergy during that time that I found to be much better for me at least.  I did have a couple of ARP Odyssey’s.  One of them eventually had its keyboard chopped off and setup to run as a remote keyboard.  Those were good days of electronic music for me.  At the end of the day it’s just about getting the sound you are after.  Much of the famous Mellotron tracks are buried in reverb or chorus.  The original sound of the instrument gets buried but if it gets you the sound you are after then that is all that matters.  All these things are just tools you use to produce music and there are no rules about how there sound can be modded.  That is the fun thing about it all.  I would love to have another Big Muff for my guitar rig.  Mine kept getting borrowed or destroyed.  Oh well, that was rock and roll in the 70’s……..
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:57 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 
 
It is in the hands of the player to some degree, set up and economies of scale. There is never any such thing as a one to one comparison.  The CS80 is without a doubt the best poly synth of all and it also is over 200 pounds and requires careful maintenence. I truly wish I still had one, the DX7 was just as good but too difficult to program.  With some of my charges I sorted them out with delays, compressors and other fx.  I use a bandpass filter on the output of any of my lead synths. With fx and some modding almost anything can be made into a really useful rig.
 
When i first could afford a synth , long ago one of the first things I did was take an Arp Odyssey and install a switch to make the filter either Arp or Moog,  I added outboard compressor, big muff, Electric Mistresss. and a tape deck modded for  delay and reverb in the amp. I started with that indvicualistic sapproach.
 
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
 
Hello Gino!
 
To be fair the Prophet 5 did even more things that a Pro One never could.  But that classic lead sound that Tony Banks used with his Pro One was just plain perfect for those solos!  Other than a couple of sounds the Pro One is pretty cheesy until (as Genesis did) you beef it up with effects.  With the push of a button the Profit 5 became monophonic in unison mode but it was a much fatter sound than the Pro One… especially the rare Rev.1 which was by far the best sounding but least reliable of the series.  I wish I had never sold mine.  My Rev 3’s and Prophet 10 never did have the bite of the Rev. 1.  I got my Rev. 1 for $500 from a friend at Sequential Circuits after Eddie Jobson turned it in for a newer model.  The SSM chips which were designed by Emu sounded great but were prone to failure.  After the Rev. 1 they moved to the Curtis chips and never sounded the same.  Emu actually designed the scanning keyboard for Sequential as well.  I knew people at both companies well so I got some good deals and factory training.  They were both groundbreaking companies with sounds you hear on more records and soundtracks than you can imagine.
 
Cheers!
 
Gary
 
 
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:57 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 
 
Analog polysynths are great but a pro 1 did things the Prophet 5 only dreamed of, Minis and Synthi A's are monophonic for a very good reason.
 
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.
 
 
 
 
 
I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.
 
Mark
 


 
--
 
Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics
 
 
 


 
--
 
Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics
 
 
 

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-10-14 by Gary Brumm

I remember the Korg Trident by name only.  I don’t know that I ever played one and I don’t remember anyone I knew owning one.  I wonder how many they made/sold?

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:49 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

for that big polysynth sound, I was always a fan of the underrated Korg Trident.  I'd love to get one of those...


fritz

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:25 pm
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

I don’t think you can say “without a doubt” any particular synth is best.  It’s really personal taste.  I never had a CS80 but did have a CS60 for a while.  I was never a fan of the DX-7.  I had a Synergy during that time that I found to be much better for me at least.  I did have a couple of ARP Odyssey’s.  One of them eventually had its keyboard chopped off and setup to run as a remote keyboard.  Those were good days of electronic music for me.  At the end of the day it’s just about getting the sound you are after.  Much of the famous Mellotron tracks are buried in reverb or chorus.  The original sound of the instrument gets buried but if it gets you the sound you are after then that is all that matters.  All these things are just tools you use to produce music and there are no rules about how there sound can be modded.  That is the fun thing about it all.  I would love to have another Big Muff for my guitar rig.  Mine kept getting borrowed or destroyed.  Oh well, that was rock and roll in the 70’s……..

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:57 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

It is in the hands of the player to some degree, set up and economies of scale. There is never any such thing as a one to one comparison.  The CS80 is without a doubt the best poly synth of all and it also is over 200 pounds and requires careful maintenence. I truly wish I still had one, the DX7 was just as good but too difficult to program.  With some of my charges I sorted them out with delays, compressors and other fx.  I use a bandpass filter on the output of any of my lead synths. With fx and some modding almost anything can be made into a really useful rig.

 

When i first could afford a synth , long ago one of the first things I did was take an Arp Odyssey and install a switch to make the filter either Arp or Moog,  I added outboard compressor, big muff, Electric Mistresss. and a tape deck modded for  delay and reverb in the amp. I started with that indvicualistic sapproach.

 

On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

 

Hello Gino!

 

To be fair the Prophet 5 did even more things that a Pro One never could.  But that classic lead sound that Tony Banks used with his Pro One was just plain perfect for those solos!  Other than a couple of sounds the Pro One is pretty cheesy until (as Genesis did) you beef it up with effects.  With the push of a button the Profit 5 became monophonic in unison mode but it was a much fatter sound than the Pro One… especially the rare Rev.1 which was by far the best sounding but least reliable of the series.  I wish I had never sold mine.  My Rev 3’s and Prophet 10 never did have the bite of the Rev. 1.  I got my Rev. 1 for $500 from a friend at Sequential Circuits after Eddie Jobson turned it in for a newer model.  The SSM chips which were designed by Emu sounded great but were prone to failure.  After the Rev. 1 they moved to the Curtis chips and never sounded the same.  Emu actually designed the scanning keyboard for Sequential as well.  I knew people at both companies well so I got some good deals and factory training.  They were both groundbreaking companies with sounds you hear on more records and soundtracks than you can imagine.

 

Cheers!

 

Gary

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:57 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

Analog polysynths are great but a pro 1 did things the Prophet 5 only dreamed of, Minis and Synthi A's are monophonic for a very good reason.

 

On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.

 

 

 

 

 

I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.

 

Mark

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-10-14 by gino wong

I wish I had a Trident, Fantastic synth that slipped through the cracks like the Arp Quadra did. Some things turn out to be magic, I have a fully discrete OB1 that is amazing and unlike any seen, I don't know if it is early production or prototype but it is amazingly unique. One of the things about earlier synths is that so few were made that you could end up buying the review sample in the magazines.
There are so many quirky wonderful solutions that people found back then and are finding now.  The output on the new small Moog is a solution to a problem that everybody had a different fix for: looping the output and all kinds of other crazy shit.My favorite was the Wah Face on the output,, Still do that :-)

It is all a bit of fun and sometimes it's hard to keep a grip on it whon money gets involved.


On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
 

I remember the Korg Trident by name only.  I don’t know that I ever played one and I don’t remember anyone I knew owning one.  I wonder how many they made/sold?

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:49 PM


To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

for that big polysynth sound, I was always a fan of the underrated Korg Trident.  I'd love to get one of those...


fritz

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:25 pm
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

I don’t think you can say “without a doubt” any particular synth is best.  It’s really personal taste.  I never had a CS80 but did have a CS60 for a while.  I was never a fan of the DX-7.  I had a Synergy during that time that I found to be much better for me at least.  I did have a couple of ARP Odyssey’s.  One of them eventually had its keyboard chopped off and setup to run as a remote keyboard.  Those were good days of electronic music for me.  At the end of the day it’s just about getting the sound you are after.  Much of the famous Mellotron tracks are buried in reverb or chorus.  The original sound of the instrument gets buried but if it gets you the sound you are after then that is all that matters.  All these things are just tools you use to produce music and there are no rules about how there sound can be modded.  That is the fun thing about it all.  I would love to have another Big Muff for my guitar rig.  Mine kept getting borrowed or destroyed.  Oh well, that was rock and roll in the 70’s……..

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:57 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

It is in the hands of the player to some degree, set up and economies of scale. There is never any such thing as a one to one comparison.  The CS80 is without a doubt the best poly synth of all and it also is over 200 pounds and requires careful maintenence. I truly wish I still had one, the DX7 was just as good but too difficult to program.  With some of my charges I sorted them out with delays, compressors and other fx.  I use a bandpass filter on the output of any of my lead synths. With fx and some modding almost anything can be made into a really useful rig.

 

When i first could afford a synth , long ago one of the first things I did was take an Arp Odyssey and install a switch to make the filter either Arp or Moog,  I added outboard compressor, big muff, Electric Mistresss. and a tape deck modded for  delay and reverb in the amp. I started with that indvicualistic sapproach.

 

On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

 

Hello Gino!

 

To be fair the Prophet 5 did even more things that a Pro One never could.  But that classic lead sound that Tony Banks used with his Pro One was just plain perfect for those solos!  Other than a couple of sounds the Pro One is pretty cheesy until (as Genesis did) you beef it up with effects.  With the push of a button the Profit 5 became monophonic in unison mode but it was a much fatter sound than the Pro One… especially the rare Rev.1 which was by far the best sounding but least reliable of the series.  I wish I had never sold mine.  My Rev 3’s and Prophet 10 never did have the bite of the Rev. 1.  I got my Rev. 1 for $500 from a friend at Sequential Circuits after Eddie Jobson turned it in for a newer model.  The SSM chips which were designed by Emu sounded great but were prone to failure.  After the Rev. 1 they moved to the Curtis chips and never sounded the same.  Emu actually designed the scanning keyboard for Sequential as well.  I knew people at both companies well so I got some good deals and factory training.  They were both groundbreaking companies with sounds you hear on more records and soundtracks than you can imagine.

 

Cheers!

 

Gary

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:57 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

Analog polysynths are great but a pro 1 did things the Prophet 5 only dreamed of, Minis and Synthi A's are monophonic for a very good reason.

 

On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.

 

 

 

 

 

I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.

 

Mark

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 




--

Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics



RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-10-15 by Gary Brumm

I saw Stevie Wonder play the Quadra on the NAMM show floor when it was released.  You can’t get a much better demonstration than that!

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 4:49 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

I wish I had a Trident, Fantastic synth that slipped through the cracks like the Arp Quadra did. Some things turn out to be magic, I have a fully discrete OB1 that is amazing and unlike any seen, I don't know if it is early production or prototype but it is amazingly unique. One of the things about earlier synths is that so few were made that you could end up buying the review sample in the magazines.

There are so many quirky wonderful solutions that people found back then and are finding now.  The output on the new small Moog is a solution to a problem that everybody had a different fix for: looping the output and all kinds of other crazy shit.My favorite was the Wah Face on the output,, Still do that :-)

 

It is all a bit of fun and sometimes it's hard to keep a grip on it whon money gets involved.

 

On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

 

I remember the Korg Trident by name only.  I don’t know that I ever played one and I don’t remember anyone I knew owning one.  I wonder how many they made/sold?

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:49 PM


To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

for that big polysynth sound, I was always a fan of the underrated Korg Trident.  I'd love to get one of those...


fritz

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:25 pm
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

I don’t think you can say “without a doubt” any particular synth is best.  It’s really personal taste.  I never had a CS80 but did have a CS60 for a while.  I was never a fan of the DX-7.  I had a Synergy during that time that I found to be much better for me at least.  I did have a couple of ARP Odyssey’s.  One of them eventually had its keyboard chopped off and setup to run as a remote keyboard.  Those were good days of electronic music for me.  At the end of the day it’s just about getting the sound you are after.  Much of the famous Mellotron tracks are buried in reverb or chorus.  The original sound of the instrument gets buried but if it gets you the sound you are after then that is all that matters.  All these things are just tools you use to produce music and there are no rules about how there sound can be modded.  That is the fun thing about it all.  I would love to have another Big Muff for my guitar rig.  Mine kept getting borrowed or destroyed.  Oh well, that was rock and roll in the 70’s……..

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:57 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

It is in the hands of the player to some degree, set up and economies of scale. There is never any such thing as a one to one comparison.  The CS80 is without a doubt the best poly synth of all and it also is over 200 pounds and requires careful maintenence. I truly wish I still had one, the DX7 was just as good but too difficult to program.  With some of my charges I sorted them out with delays, compressors and other fx.  I use a bandpass filter on the output of any of my lead synths. With fx and some modding almost anything can be made into a really useful rig.

 

When i first could afford a synth , long ago one of the first things I did was take an Arp Odyssey and install a switch to make the filter either Arp or Moog,  I added outboard compressor, big muff, Electric Mistresss. and a tape deck modded for  delay and reverb in the amp. I started with that indvicualistic sapproach.

 

On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

 

Hello Gino!

 

To be fair the Prophet 5 did even more things that a Pro One never could.  But that classic lead sound that Tony Banks used with his Pro One was just plain perfect for those solos!  Other than a couple of sounds the Pro One is pretty cheesy until (as Genesis did) you beef it up with effects.  With the push of a button the Profit 5 became monophonic in unison mode but it was a much fatter sound than the Pro One… especially the rare Rev.1 which was by far the best sounding but least reliable of the series.  I wish I had never sold mine.  My Rev 3’s and Prophet 10 never did have the bite of the Rev. 1.  I got my Rev. 1 for $500 from a friend at Sequential Circuits after Eddie Jobson turned it in for a newer model.  The SSM chips which were designed by Emu sounded great but were prone to failure.  After the Rev. 1 they moved to the Curtis chips and never sounded the same.  Emu actually designed the scanning keyboard for Sequential as well.  I knew people at both companies well so I got some good deals and factory training.  They were both groundbreaking companies with sounds you hear on more records and soundtracks than you can imagine.

 

Cheers!

 

Gary

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:57 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

Analog polysynths are great but a pro 1 did things the Prophet 5 only dreamed of, Minis and Synthi A's are monophonic for a very good reason.

 

On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.

 

 

 

 

 

I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.

 

Mark

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-10-15 by gino wong

He can play .

Too bad he lost Margolieff and Ceil after they left he dried up.



On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
 

I saw Stevie Wonder play the Quadra on the NAMM show floor when it was released.  You can’t get a much better demonstration than that!

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 4:49 PM


To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

I wish I had a Trident, Fantastic synth that slipped through the cracks like the Arp Quadra did. Some things turn out to be magic, I have a fully discrete OB1 that is amazing and unlike any seen, I don't know if it is early production or prototype but it is amazingly unique. One of the things about earlier synths is that so few were made that you could end up buying the review sample in the magazines.

There are so many quirky wonderful solutions that people found back then and are finding now.  The output on the new small Moog is a solution to a problem that everybody had a different fix for: looping the output and all kinds of other crazy shit.My favorite was the Wah Face on the output,, Still do that :-)

 

It is all a bit of fun and sometimes it's hard to keep a grip on it whon money gets involved.

 

On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

 

I remember the Korg Trident by name only.  I don’t know that I ever played one and I don’t remember anyone I knew owning one.  I wonder how many they made/sold?

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:49 PM


To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

for that big polysynth sound, I was always a fan of the underrated Korg Trident.  I'd love to get one of those...


fritz

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:25 pm
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

I don’t think you can say “without a doubt” any particular synth is best.  It’s really personal taste.  I never had a CS80 but did have a CS60 for a while.  I was never a fan of the DX-7.  I had a Synergy during that time that I found to be much better for me at least.  I did have a couple of ARP Odyssey’s.  One of them eventually had its keyboard chopped off and setup to run as a remote keyboard.  Those were good days of electronic music for me.  At the end of the day it’s just about getting the sound you are after.  Much of the famous Mellotron tracks are buried in reverb or chorus.  The original sound of the instrument gets buried but if it gets you the sound you are after then that is all that matters.  All these things are just tools you use to produce music and there are no rules about how there sound can be modded.  That is the fun thing about it all.  I would love to have another Big Muff for my guitar rig.  Mine kept getting borrowed or destroyed.  Oh well, that was rock and roll in the 70’s……..

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:57 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

It is in the hands of the player to some degree, set up and economies of scale. There is never any such thing as a one to one comparison.  The CS80 is without a doubt the best poly synth of all and it also is over 200 pounds and requires careful maintenence. I truly wish I still had one, the DX7 was just as good but too difficult to program.  With some of my charges I sorted them out with delays, compressors and other fx.  I use a bandpass filter on the output of any of my lead synths. With fx and some modding almost anything can be made into a really useful rig.

 

When i first could afford a synth , long ago one of the first things I did was take an Arp Odyssey and install a switch to make the filter either Arp or Moog,  I added outboard compressor, big muff, Electric Mistresss. and a tape deck modded for  delay and reverb in the amp. I started with that indvicualistic sapproach.

 

On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

 

Hello Gino!

 

To be fair the Prophet 5 did even more things that a Pro One never could.  But that classic lead sound that Tony Banks used with his Pro One was just plain perfect for those solos!  Other than a couple of sounds the Pro One is pretty cheesy until (as Genesis did) you beef it up with effects.  With the push of a button the Profit 5 became monophonic in unison mode but it was a much fatter sound than the Pro One… especially the rare Rev.1 which was by far the best sounding but least reliable of the series.  I wish I had never sold mine.  My Rev 3’s and Prophet 10 never did have the bite of the Rev. 1.  I got my Rev. 1 for $500 from a friend at Sequential Circuits after Eddie Jobson turned it in for a newer model.  The SSM chips which were designed by Emu sounded great but were prone to failure.  After the Rev. 1 they moved to the Curtis chips and never sounded the same.  Emu actually designed the scanning keyboard for Sequential as well.  I knew people at both companies well so I got some good deals and factory training.  They were both groundbreaking companies with sounds you hear on more records and soundtracks than you can imagine.

 

Cheers!

 

Gary

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:57 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

 

 

Analog polysynths are great but a pro 1 did things the Prophet 5 only dreamed of, Minis and Synthi A's are monophonic for a very good reason.

 

On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.

 

 

 

 

 

I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.

 

Mark

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 




--

Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics



Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-11-05 by Michael Reina

Hi Everyone,
     I am selling one of my two Mellotrons.  It is an M400 with original flight case.  It is located in Northern Virginia, but I might be willing to deliver it depending on the buyers location.  The power supply has been completely rebuilt, and all electrolytic capacitors in the power supply and preamp have been replaced with high quality electrolytics.  The original CMC-10 is included but has been upgraded to an SMS-2.  Both of my Mellotrons have been used in a smoke free home studio, and have been maintained to be high performing instruments.  I am friends with Frank Stickle and know how to maintain these instruments.  One of my machines was used at last year's Near Fest and Frank said Anglagard commented that it had the lowest amount of hum of any Mellotron they'd ever used.  Since I use my Mellotrons, I would prefer not to lose a tape frame or tape set.  They can be purchased from Streetly or Mellotron.com  The flight case does need a refoam, but all the bad foam has already been removed.  I would need to charge a reasonable fee if I am delivering.  Feel free to ask questions.  Serious buyers only please.
Because of the time and money I have in it, I am asking $5500.  
Email me directly at 
thejackfields@gmail.com

Thanks,
Mike Reina

On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:51 AM, gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com> wrote:
 
He can play .

Too bad he lost Margolieff and Ceil after they left he dried up.



On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
 
I saw Stevie Wonder play the Quadra on the NAMM show floor when it was released.  You can’t get a much better demonstration than that!
 
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 4:49 PM

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 
 
I wish I had a Trident, Fantastic synth that slipped through the cracks like the Arp Quadra did. Some things turn out to be magic, I have a fully discrete OB1 that is amazing and unlike any seen, I don't know if it is early production or prototype but it is amazingly unique. One of the things about earlier synths is that so few were made that you could end up buying the review sample in the magazines.
There are so many quirky wonderful solutions that people found back then and are finding now.  The output on the new small Moog is a solution to a problem that everybody had a different fix for: looping the output and all kinds of other crazy shit.My favorite was the Wah Face on the output,, Still do that :-)
 
It is all a bit of fun and sometimes it's hard to keep a grip on it whon money gets involved.
 
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
 
I remember the Korg Trident by name only.  I don’t know that I ever played one and I don’t remember anyone I knew owning one.  I wonder how many they made/sold?
 
 
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:49 PM

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 
 
for that big polysynth sound, I was always a fan of the underrated Korg Trident.  I'd love to get one of those...


fritz
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:25 pm
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 
I don’t think you can say “without a doubt” any particular synth is best.  It’s really personal taste.  I never had a CS80 but did have a CS60 for a while.  I was never a fan of the DX-7.  I had a Synergy during that time that I found to be much better for me at least.  I did have a couple of ARP Odyssey’s.  One of them eventually had its keyboard chopped off and setup to run as a remote keyboard.  Those were good days of electronic music for me.  At the end of the day it’s just about getting the sound you are after.  Much of the famous Mellotron tracks are buried in reverb or chorus.  The original sound of the instrument gets buried but if it gets you the sound you are after then that is all that matters.  All these things are just tools you use to produce music and there are no rules about how there sound can be modded.  That is the fun thing about it all.  I would love to have another Big Muff for my guitar rig.  Mine kept getting borrowed or destroyed.  Oh well, that was rock and roll in the 70’s……..
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:57 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 
 
It is in the hands of the player to some degree, set up and economies of scale. There is never any such thing as a one to one comparison.  The CS80 is without a doubt the best poly synth of all and it also is over 200 pounds and requires careful maintenence. I truly wish I still had one, the DX7 was just as good but too difficult to program.  With some of my charges I sorted them out with delays, compressors and other fx.  I use a bandpass filter on the output of any of my lead synths. With fx and some modding almost anything can be made into a really useful rig.
 
When i first could afford a synth , long ago one of the first things I did was take an Arp Odyssey and install a switch to make the filter either Arp or Moog,  I added outboard compressor, big muff, Electric Mistresss. and a tape deck modded for  delay and reverb in the amp. I started with that indvicualistic sapproach.
 
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
 
Hello Gino!
 
To be fair the Prophet 5 did even more things that a Pro One never could.  But that classic lead sound that Tony Banks used with his Pro One was just plain perfect for those solos!  Other than a couple of sounds the Pro One is pretty cheesy until (as Genesis did) you beef it up with effects.  With the push of a button the Profit 5 became monophonic in unison mode but it was a much fatter sound than the Pro One… especially the rare Rev.1 which was by far the best sounding but least reliable of the series.  I wish I had never sold mine.  My Rev 3’s and Prophet 10 never did have the bite of the Rev. 1.  I got my Rev. 1 for $500 from a friend at Sequential Circuits after Eddie Jobson turned it in for a newer model.  The SSM chips which were designed by Emu sounded great but were prone to failure.  After the Rev. 1 they moved to the Curtis chips and never sounded the same.  Emu actually designed the scanning keyboard for Sequential as well.  I knew people at both companies well so I got some good deals and factory training.  They were both groundbreaking companies with sounds you hear on more records and soundtracks than you can imagine.
 
Cheers!
 
Gary
 
 
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:57 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 
 
Analog polysynths are great but a pro 1 did things the Prophet 5 only dreamed of, Minis and Synthi A's are monophonic for a very good reason.
 
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.
 
 
 
 
 
I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.
 
Mark
 


 
--
 
Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics
 
 
 


 
--
 
Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics
 
 
 


 
--
 
Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics
 
 
 



--

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BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics





Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun

2013-11-08 by lsf5275@aol.com

It didn't have any hum.  
 
In a message dated 11/5/2013 6:45:55 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lampvalley@yahoo.com writes:
 

Hi Everyone,
     I am selling one of my two Mellotrons.  It is an M400 with original flight case.  It is located in Northern Virginia, but I might be willing to deliver it depending on the buyers location.  The power supply has been completely rebuilt, and all electrolytic capacitors in the power supply and preamp have been replaced with high quality electrolytics.  The original CMC-10 is included but has been upgraded to an SMS-2.  Both of my Mellotrons have been used in a smoke free home studio, and have been maintained to be high performing instruments.  I am friends with Frank Stickle and know how to maintain these instruments.  One of my machines was used at last year's Near Fest and Frank said Anglagard commented that it had the lowest amount of hum of any Mellotron they'd ever used.  Since I use my Mellotrons, I would prefer not to lose a tape frame or tape set.  They can be purchased from Streetly or Mellotron.com  The flight case does need a refoam, but all the bad foam has already been removed.  I would need to charge a reasonable fee if I am delivering.  Feel free to ask questions.  Serious buyers only please.
Because of the time and money I have in it, I am asking $5500.  
Email me directly at 
thejackfields@gmail.com

Thanks,
Mike Reina

On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:51 AM, gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com> wrote:
 
He can play .

Too bad he lost Margolieff and Ceil after they left he dried up.



On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
 
I saw Stevie Wonder play the Quadra on the NAMM show floor when it was released.  You can’t get a much better demonstration than that!
 
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 4:49 PM

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 
 
I wish I had a Trident, Fantastic synth that slipped through the cracks like the Arp Quadra did. Some things turn out to be magic, I have a fully discrete OB1 that is amazing and unlike any seen, I don't know if it is early production or prototype but it is amazingly unique. One of the things about earlier synths is that so few were made that you could end up buying the review sample in the magazines.
There are so many quirky wonderful solutions that people found back then and are finding now.  The output on the new small Moog is a solution to a problem that everybody had a different fix for: looping the output and all kinds of other crazy shit.My favorite was the Wah Face on the output,, Still do that :-)
 
It is all a bit of fun and sometimes it's hard to keep a grip on it whon money gets involved.
 
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
 
I remember the Korg Trident by name only.  I don’t know that I ever played one and I don’t remember anyone I knew owning one.  I wonder how many they made/sold?
 
 
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:49 PM

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 
 
for that big polysynth sound, I was always a fan of the underrated Korg Trident.  I'd love to get one of those...


fritz
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:25 pm
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 
I don’t think you can say “without a doubt” any particular synth is best.  It’s really personal taste.  I never had a CS80 but did have a CS60 for a while.  I was never a fan of the DX-7.  I had a Synergy during that time that I found to be much better for me at least.  I did have a couple of ARP Odyssey’s.  One of them eventually had its keyboard chopped off and setup to run as a remote keyboard.  Those were good days of electronic music for me.  At the end of the day it’s just about getting the sound you are after.  Much of the famous Mellotron tracks are buried in reverb or chorus.  The original sound of the instrument gets buried but if it gets you the sound you are after then that is all that matters.  All these things are just tools you use to produce music and there are no rules about how there sound can be modded.  That is the fun thing about it all.  I would love to have another Big Muff for my guitar rig.  Mine kept getting borrowed or destroyed.  Oh well, that was rock and roll in the 70’s……..
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:57 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 
 
It is in the hands of the player to some degree, set up and economies of scale. There is never any such thing as a one to one comparison.  The CS80 is without a doubt the best poly synth of all and it also is over 200 pounds and requires careful maintenence. I truly wish I still had one, the DX7 was just as good but too difficult to program.  With some of my charges I sorted them out with delays, compressors and other fx.  I use a bandpass filter on the output of any of my lead synths. With fx and some modding almost anything can be made into a really useful rig.
 
When i first could afford a synth , long ago one of the first things I did was take an Arp Odyssey and install a switch to make the filter either Arp or Moog,  I added outboard compressor, big muff, Electric Mistresss. and a tape deck modded for  delay and reverb in the amp. I started with that indvicualistic sapproach.
 
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
 
Hello Gino!
 
To be fair the Prophet 5 did even more things that a Pro One never could.  But that classic lead sound that Tony Banks used with his Pro One was just plain perfect for those solos!  Other than a couple of sounds the Pro One is pretty cheesy until (as Genesis did) you beef it up with effects.  With the push of a button the Profit 5 became monophonic in unison mode but it was a much fatter sound than the Pro One… especially the rare Rev.1 which was by far the best sounding but least reliable of the series.  I wish I had never sold mine.  My Rev 3’s and Prophet 10 never did have the bite of the Rev. 1.  I got my Rev. 1 for $500 from a friend at Sequential Circuits after Eddie Jobson turned it in for a newer model.  The SSM chips which were designed by Emu sounded great but were prone to failure.  After the Rev. 1 they moved to the Curtis chips and never sounded the same.  Emu actually designed the scanning keyboard for Sequential as well.  I knew people at both companies well so I got some good deals and factory training.  They were both groundbreaking companies with sounds you hear on more records and soundtracks than you can imagine.
 
Cheers!
 
Gary
 
 
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:57 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic: Analog Fun
 
 
Analog polysynths are great but a pro 1 did things the Prophet 5 only dreamed of, Minis and Synthi A's are monophonic for a very good reason.
 
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:28 PM, Mark <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Whilst saving up for my next keyboard I have bought a Monotribe and a Volca keys. I still love the mellotron but I am doing much more with subtractive synthesis these days. I mainly use the almighty MicroKorg or the wonderful Synth1 plugin. But even to my ears analog synths sound more pleasing, but I can't afford a true analog polysynth. The Volca is polyphonic but works much better as a monophonic synth. These are 2 of my latest efforts for all of you who love endlessly repetitive electronic loop music.
 
 
 
 
 
I have more sense now than to buy a vintage synthesizer but I suppose I wouldn't be able to resist a MiniMoog if one turned up here.
 
Mark
 


 
--
 
Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics
 
 
 


 
--
 
Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics
 
 
 


 
--
 
Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics
 
 
 



--

Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics