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2013-06-16 by Mark Pring
2013-06-16 by Bruce Daily
2013-06-16 by Mike Dickson
On 16 June 2013 05:39, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote:I found this quite interesting. The tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the mellotron makes a great stand for a minimoog!I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.Mark
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Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
2013-06-16 by Mark Pring
On 16 June 2013 05:39, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote:I found this quite interesting. The tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the mellotron makes a great stand for a minimoog!I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.Mark
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Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
2013-06-16 by Mark Pring
2013-06-16 by matthew meixner
2013-06-16 by Mark Pring
2013-06-16 by Kinchmusic
On 16 Jun 2013, at 05:39, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote:
I found this quite interesting. The tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the mellotron makes a great stand for a minimoog!I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.Mark
2013-06-16 by Mark Pring
On 16 Jun 2013, at 05:39, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote:
I found this quite interesting. The tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the mellotron makes a great stand for a minimoog!I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.Mark
2013-06-16 by Kinchmusic
On 16 Jun 2013, at 20:41, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Subtle differences are odd. I quite like using mellotron samples and some of the differences aren't even subtle. I prefer my cheap chinese upright to any paino sample I've heard so far. I haven't had an opportunity to directly compare the minimoog and the voyager in person only watched direct comparisons on you tube. I've tried the Little Phatty and Sub Phatty and was quite underwhelmed.MarkFrom: Kinchmusic <kinchmusic@aol.com>
To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 17 June 2013 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Matt's gear
Providing you can find one in serviceable condition at a price that is anything other than ridiculous quite frankly.I had an original minimoog a few years ago which developed a triggering problem and would drift in and out of tune over a few hours. The Voyager was an obvious solution, so I decided to buy one whilst retaining the mini so I would have the option of keeping both if I felt it worthwhile. Whilst there are subtle differences in sound between the two, I did not consider at any point that the mm was superior in sound to the voyager in any respect. Sorry if this view is not shared by some on here, but it is my view that the Voyager is every bit as good as the original and capable of a range of sounds that the original could only dream about. Add in the 800 plus memories and after a short warm up, very stable oscillators, it is a beautifully crafted hand built instrument and deserves not to be constantly compared to its ancestor.You can also pick one up second hand for half of the price of a mm.Needless to say I no longer have my mm. No contest IMHO.Andy K
Andy KinchI found this quite interesting. The tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the mellotron makes a great stand for a minimoog!I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.Mark
2013-06-16 by Mark Pring
On 16 Jun 2013, at 20:41, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Subtle differences are odd. I quite like using mellotron samples and some of the differences aren't even subtle. I prefer my cheap chinese upright to any paino sample I've heard so far. I haven't had an opportunity to directly compare the minimoog and the voyager in person only watched direct comparisons on you tube. I've tried the Little Phatty and Sub Phatty and was quite underwhelmed.MarkFrom: Kinchmusic <kinchmusic@aol.com>
To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 17 June 2013 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Matt's gear
Providing you can find one in serviceable condition at a price that is anything other than ridiculous quite frankly.I had an original minimoog a few years ago which developed a triggering problem and would drift in and out of tune over a few hours. The Voyager was an obvious solution, so I decided to buy one whilst retaining the mini so I would have the option of keeping both if I felt it worthwhile. Whilst there are subtle differences in sound between the two, I did not consider at any point that the mm was superior in sound to the voyager in any respect. Sorry if this view is not shared by some on here, but it is my view that the Voyager is every bit as good as the original and capable of a range of sounds that the original could only dream about. Add in the 800 plus memories and after a short warm up, very stable oscillators, it is a beautifully crafted hand built instrument and deserves not to be constantly compared to its ancestor.You can also pick one up second hand for half of the price of a mm.Needless to say I no longer have my mm. No contest IMHO.Andy K
Andy KinchI found this quite interesting. The tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the mellotron makes a great stand for a minimoog!I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.Mark
2013-06-16 by John Hammaren
A Roland V-Piano, but one needs 7Gs new. I played a used one listed on Ebay recently offered by a large dealer in Orange County NY for $4500. Not in great shape visually, but the action is by far the best of any electronic piano (and sound, for that matter), and is far better than my Yamaha G2, in my opinion, for what it’s worth..
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Mark Pring
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 2:46 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Matt's gear
I have yet to play anything over than an acoustic piano that is acceptable to my ears, what would you recommend?
Mark
From: matthew meixner <ccstickleback@yahoo.com>
To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 17 June 2013 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Matt's gear
I am impressed with Matt's set up. He's got all his bases covered regardless of originality. My only thing is he could have a better acoustic piano sound. I never liked that Kurzweil series. Thanks Mark.
From: Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com>
To: mellold <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 11:39 PM
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Matt's gear
I found this quite interesting. The tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the mellotron makes a great stand for a minimoog!
I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.
Mark
2013-06-17 by Mark Pring
Thanks.
Mark
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A Roland V-Piano, but one needs 7Gs new. I played a used one listed on Ebay recently offered by a large dealer in Orange County NY for $4500. Not in great shape visually, but the action is by far the best of any electronic piano (and sound, for that matter), and is far better than my Yamaha G2, in my opinion, for what it’s worth..
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Mark Pring
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 2:46 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Matt's gear
I have yet to play anything over than an acoustic piano that is acceptable to my ears, what would you recommend?
Mark
From: matthew meixner <ccstickleback@yahoo.com>
To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 17 June 2013 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Matt's gear
I am impressed with Matt's set up. He's got all his bases covered regardless of originality. My only thing is he could have a better acoustic piano sound. I never liked that Kurzweil series. Thanks Mark.
From: Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com>
To: mellold <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 11:39 PM
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Matt's gear
I found this quite interesting. The tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the mellotron makes a great stand for a minimoog!
I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.
Mark
2013-06-17 by trawnajim
>The keyboard player for our trio Odradek also tried a Kurzweil for a time and also didn't like it. He then got the Korg SV-1 and raves about it - though he's somewhat biased, being the long-time owner of an MS10 - MS20 pair. Not being one to make an accurate appraisal, FWIW, I prefer the Korg sound also.
> I have yet to play anything over than an acoustic piano that is acceptable to my ears, what would you recommend?
>
> From: matthew meixner <ccstickleback@...>
>
> I am impressed with Matt's set up. He's got all his bases covered regardless of originality. My only thing is he could have a better acoustic piano sound. I never liked that Kurzweil series. Thanks Mark.
2013-06-17 by matthew meixner
--- In mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
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> I have yet to play anything over than an acoustic piano that is acceptable to my ears, what would you recommend?
>
> From: matthew meixner <ccstickleback@...>
>
> I am impressed with Matt's set up. He's got all his bases covered regardless of originality. My only thing is he could have a better acoustic piano sound. I never liked that Kurzweil series. Thanks Mark.
The keyboard player for our trio Odradek also tried a Kurzweil for a time and also didn't like it. He then got the Korg SV-1 and raves about it - though he's somewhat biased, being the long-time owner of an MS10 - MS20 pair. Not being one to make an accurate appraisal, FWIW, I prefer the Korg sound also.
Jim Bailey
2013-06-18 by Mark Pring
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
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> I have yet to play anything over than an acoustic piano that is acceptable to my ears, what would you recommend?
>
> From: matthew meixner <ccstickleback@...>
>
> I am impressed with Matt's set up. He's got all his bases covered regardless of originality. My only thing is he could have a better acoustic piano sound. I never liked that Kurzweil series. Thanks Mark.
The keyboard player for our trio Odradek also tried a Kurzweil for a time and also didn't like it. He then got the Korg SV-1 and raves about it - though he's somewhat biased, being the long-time owner of an MS10 - MS20 pair. Not being one to make an accurate appraisal, FWIW, I prefer the Korg sound also.
Jim Bailey
2013-07-03 by kingkhatru
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
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> I found this quite interesting. The tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the mellotron makes a great stand for a minimoog!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjFXJM6fUyY
>
>
> I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.
>
>
> Mark
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2013-07-03 by Mark Pring
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
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> I found this quite interesting. The tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the mellotron makes a great stand for a minimoog!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjFXJM6fUyY
>
>
> I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.
>
>
> Mark
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2013-07-03 by william Beith
2013-07-03 by tron400
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, william Beith <wbeith@...> wrote:
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> Has anyone ever developed a list of the instrument model numbers and the tapes used on songs over the years?
>
> As a not yet Mellotron owner trying to decide on which combination of sounds would best suit me, identifying sounds by record might serve as a starting point for me.
>
> For example on Court of the Crimson King, Watcher, Moraz- Story of i, Story in Your Eyes.....
>
> Anyway you get the idea.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bill
>
2013-07-04 by lsf5275@aol.com
I asked him about the tron and he told me he had it custom made by Frank Stickle.
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
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> I found this quite interesting. The tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the mellotron makes a great stand for a minimoog!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjFXJM6fUyY
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>
> I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.
>
>
> Mark
>
2013-07-04 by lsf5275@aol.com
He's a lying bastard. I know him, but I did no such thing.In a message dated 7/3/2013 12:16:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, samuelgskinner@gmail.com writes:I asked him about the tron and he told me he had it custom made by Frank Stickle.
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
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> I found this quite interesting. The tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the mellotron makes a great stand for a minimoog!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjFXJM6fUyY
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>
> I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.
>
>
> Mark
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2013-07-04 by Gary Brumm
Interesting, I met him at a demo that Geoff Downes was doing at a NAMM show. It seems to me that he was playing in a Yes cover group in Sacramento at the time…….it was many years ago……at least I think it was him…..
Cheers,
Gary
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 5:29 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Matt's gear
He does have a real one, but I don't think he takes it on the road.
In a message dated 7/3/2013 8:20:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lsf5275@aol.com writes:
He's a lying bastard. I know him, but I did no such thing.
In a message dated 7/3/2013 12:16:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, samuelgskinner@gmail.com writes:
I asked him about the tron and he told me he had it custom made by Frank Stickle.
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
> I found this quite interesting. The tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the mellotron makes a great stand for a minimoog!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjFXJM6fUyY
>
>
> I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.
>
>
> Mark
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2013-07-04 by John Wright
On Jul 3, 2013, at 20:20, lsf5275@aol.com wrote:
He's a lying bastard. I know him, but I did no such thing.In a message dated 7/3/2013 12:16:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, samuelgskinner@gmail.com writes:I asked him about the tron and he told me he had it custom made by Frank Stickle.
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
> I found this quite interesting. The tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the mellotron makes a great stand for a minimoog!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjFXJM6fUyY
>
>
> I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.
>
>
> Mark
>
2013-07-04 by Chris Dale
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:18 PM, tron400 <tron400@yahoo.com> wrote:
Planet Mellotron lists what models were used on what songs, but not what tapes.
http://planetmellotron.com/
Bernie
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, william Beith <wbeith@...> wrote:
>
> Has anyone ever developed a list of the instrument model numbers and the tapes used on songs over the years?
>
> As a not yet Mellotron owner trying to decide on which combination of sounds would best suit me, identifying sounds by record might serve as a starting point for me.
>
> For example on Court of the Crimson King, Watcher, Moraz- Story of i, Story in Your Eyes.....
>
> Anyway you get the idea.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bill
>
2013-07-04 by Hammonddave
On Jul 3, 2013, at 19:16, John Wright <jwright911703@gmail.com> wrote:
OMG two Franks!
Sent from my iPhoneHe's a lying bastard. I know him, but I did no such thing.In a message dated 7/3/2013 12:16:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, samuelgskinner@gmail.com writes:I asked him about the tron and he told me he had it custom made by Frank Stickle.
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
> I found this quite interesting. The tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the mellotron makes a great stand for a minimoog!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjFXJM6fUyY
>
>
> I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.
>
>
> Mark
>
2013-07-08 by lsf5275@aol.com
He does have a real one, but I don't think he takes it on the road.In a message dated 7/3/2013 8:20:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lsf5275@aol.com writes:
He's a lying bastard. I know him, but I did no such thing.In a message dated 7/3/2013 12:16:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, samuelgskinner@gmail.com writes:I asked him about the Tron and he told me he had it custom made by Frank Stickle.
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
> I found this quite interesting. The Tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the Mellotron makes a great stand for a Minimoog!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjFXJM6fUyY
>
>
> I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.
>
>
> Mark
>
2013-07-08 by Mark Pring
He does have a real one, but I don't think he takes it on the road.In a message dated 7/3/2013 8:20:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, lsf5275@aol.com writes:He's a lying bastard. I know him, but I did no such thing.In a message dated 7/3/2013 12:16:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, samuelgskinner@gmail.com writes:I asked him about the Tron and he told me he had it custom made by Frank Stickle.
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
> I found this quite interesting. The Tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the Mellotron makes a great stand for a Minimoog!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjFXJM6fUyY
>
>
> I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.
>
>
> Mark
>
2013-07-09 by Chris Dale
The 'Mellotron' sounds exactly like the real thing?I cannot even tell what the sound is supposed to be - almost a cross between the Popol Vuh 'Choir Organ' and some sort of string synth.
Well, I'm sure to him, it sounds exactly like the real thing.But he's unknowingly way off trying to copy Yes' Mellotron sounds.It seems his reference point is how they sound on Yes CDs. If he saw and played the actual Mellotrons they used, he'd have a completely different reference point.With the exception of Fragile, those sounds were re-equalized for use in the double Tron. They're modified stock sounds.Of course he couldn't know this, so it's understandable he'd think he had the perfect Mellotron emulation.He deserves points for the visual part of it, but ultimately it's the sound that matters most. In this case, the eyes are used to fool the ears, so visually - he's done a great job.--
On 16 June 2013 05:39, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote:
I found this quite interesting. The tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the mellotron makes a great stand for a minimoog!I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.Mark
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
2013-07-09 by lsf5275@aol.com
The 'Mellotron' sounds exactly like the real thing?I cannot even tell what the sound is supposed to be - almost a cross between the Popol Vuh 'Choir Organ' and some sort of string synth.Well, I'm sure to him, it sounds exactly like the real thing.But he's unknowingly way off trying to copy Yes' Mellotron sounds.It seems his reference point is how they sound on Yes CDs. If he saw and played the actual Mellotrons they used, he'd have a completely different reference point.With the exception of Fragile, those sounds were re-equalized for use in the double Tron. They're modified stock sounds.Of course he couldn't know this, so it's understandable he'd think he had the perfect Mellotron emulation.He deserves points for the visual part of it, but ultimately it's the sound that matters most. In this case, the eyes are used to fool the ears, so visually - he's done a great job.--
On 16 June 2013 05:39, Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote:
I found this quite interesting. The tron is fake but he doesn't say what he is using. As he says the mellotron makes a great stand for a minimoog!I think the Minimoog is probably the only vintage keyboard I could be tempted to buy. The modern moogs just don't excite me.Mark
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh