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Is this actually a Streetly product?

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?

2013-05-04 by gino wong

That is a legendary piece of gear.  When they talk of science being indestiguishable from magic, this is it, as it was described to me.

gw.

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 2:50 PM, <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:
 

Yeah? And I bet those knobs aren't available either.
 
In a message dated 5/4/2013 2:48:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tron400@yahoo.com writes:
 




--

Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics



Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?

2013-05-04 by john barrick

A bit of a precursor to the Birotron, it seems.


On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 1:57 PM, gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com> wrote:
 

That is a legendary piece of gear.  When they talk of science being indestiguishable from magic, this is it, as it was described to me.


gw.


On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 2:50 PM, <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:
 

Yeah? And I bet those knobs aren't available either.
 
In a message dated 5/4/2013 2:48:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tron400@yahoo.com writes:
 




--

Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics






--
john barrick

*Leo got it right the first time*
*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*

RE: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?

2013-05-04 by R l

The Silver Machine !!!

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: lsf5275@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 14:50:59 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?

 

Yeah? And I bet those knobs aren't available either.
 
In a message dated 5/4/2013 2:48:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tron400@yahoo.com writes:
 

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?

2013-05-04 by gino wong

No,  it is more like taking the commercial broadcast cart machine way past it's most practicable iteration.  From what I remember it does what some digital systems still don't do (or need to) 

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 4:10 PM, R l <bluesrock77@hotmail.com> wrote:
 

The Silver Machine !!!

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: lsf5275@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 14:50:59 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?


 

Yeah? And I bet those knobs aren't available either.
 
In a message dated 5/4/2013 2:48:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tron400@yahoo.com writes:
 




--

Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics



RE: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?

2013-05-04 by Gary Brumm

This relic has been long since replaced by products like the 360 Systems Digicart and Instant Replay.  I have used the Instant Replay before and it is easy to master, fast, efficient, sounds great and ~no freaking tapes~ to jam in the middle of a show! J  ….also it weighs about 10 lbs and is a small desktop unit….

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 2:28 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?

 

 

No,  it is more like taking the commercial broadcast cart machine way past it's most practicable iteration.  From what I remember it does what some digital systems still don't do (or need to) 

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 4:10 PM, R l <bluesrock77@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

The Silver Machine !!!

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: lsf5275@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 14:50:59 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?



 

 

Yeah? And I bet those knobs aren't available either.

 

In a message dated 5/4/2013 2:48:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tron400@yahoo.com writes:

 

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?

2013-05-05 by gino wong

Having done radio for 10 years top me In it's day it would have seemed to be a miracle.

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
 

This relic has been long since replaced by products like the 360 Systems Digicart and Instant Replay.  I have used the Instant Replay before and it is easy to master, fast, efficient, sounds great and ~no freaking tapes~ to jam in the middle of a show! J  ….also it weighs about 10 lbs and is a small desktop unit….

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 2:28 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com


Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?

 

 

No,  it is more like taking the commercial broadcast cart machine way past it's most practicable iteration.  From what I remember it does what some digital systems still don't do (or need to) 

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 4:10 PM, R l <bluesrock77@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

The Silver Machine !!!

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: lsf5275@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 14:50:59 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?



 

 

Yeah? And I bet those knobs aren't available either.

 

In a message dated 5/4/2013 2:48:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tron400@yahoo.com writes:

 

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 




--

Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics



RE: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?

2013-05-05 by Gary Brumm

It absolutely would have been a magic machine in its time. 

It sure looks like it’s built like a tank!

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 5:50 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?

 

 

Having done radio for 10 years top me In it's day it would have seemed to be a miracle.

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

 

This relic has been long since replaced by products like the 360 Systems Digicart and Instant Replay.  I have used the Instant Replay before and it is easy to master, fast, efficient, sounds great and ~no freaking tapes~ to jam in the middle of a show! J  ….also it weighs about 10 lbs and is a small desktop unit….

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 2:28 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com


Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?

 

 

No,  it is more like taking the commercial broadcast cart machine way past it's most practicable iteration.  From what I remember it does what some digital systems still don't do (or need to) 

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 4:10 PM, R l <bluesrock77@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

The Silver Machine !!!

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: lsf5275@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 14:50:59 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?



 

 

Yeah? And I bet those knobs aren't available either.

 

In a message dated 5/4/2013 2:48:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tron400@yahoo.com writes:

 

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?

2013-05-05 by gino wong

Definitely out of the UNIT set on Dr Who.  I could see John Pertwee banging someone in a vinyl suits head on it.

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
 

It absolutely would have been a magic machine in its time. 

It sure looks like it’s built like a tank!

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 5:50 PM


To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?

 

 

Having done radio for 10 years top me In it's day it would have seemed to be a miracle.

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

 

This relic has been long since replaced by products like the 360 Systems Digicart and Instant Replay.  I have used the Instant Replay before and it is easy to master, fast, efficient, sounds great and ~no freaking tapes~ to jam in the middle of a show! J  ….also it weighs about 10 lbs and is a small desktop unit….

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 2:28 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com


Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?

 

 

No,  it is more like taking the commercial broadcast cart machine way past it's most practicable iteration.  From what I remember it does what some digital systems still don't do (or need to) 

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 4:10 PM, R l <bluesrock77@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

The Silver Machine !!!

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: lsf5275@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 14:50:59 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?



 

 

Yeah? And I bet those knobs aren't available either.

 

In a message dated 5/4/2013 2:48:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tron400@yahoo.com writes:

 

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 




--

Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics



Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?

2013-05-05 by Bill Rudloff

Who knows, one like it could have been used as a set piece once it was no longer in service. Now you make me want to look for one in all the late Troughton, Pertwee and Tom Baker episodes.
Bill Rudloff

Sent from my iPhone4

On May 4, 2013, at 8:51 PM, gino wong <wonggster@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Definitely out of the UNIT set on Dr Who.  I could see John Pertwee banging someone in a vinyl suits head on it.

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
 

It absolutely would have been a magic machine in its time. 

It sure looks like it’s built like a tank!

 

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 5:50 PM


To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?

 

 

Having done radio for 10 years top me In it's day it would have seemed to be a miracle.

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

 

This relic has been long since replaced by products like the 360 Systems Digicart and Instant Replay.  I have used the Instant Replay before and it is easy to master, fast, efficient, sounds great and ~no freaking tapes~ to jam in the middle of a show! J  ….also it weighs about 10 lbs and is a small desktop unit….

 

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gino wong
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 2:28 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com


Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?

 

 

No,  it is more like taking the commercial broadcast cart machine way past it's most practicable iteration.  From what I remember it does what some digital systems still don't do (or need to) 

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 4:10 PM, R l <bluesrock77@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

The Silver Machine !!!

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: lsf5275@aol.com
Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 14:50:59 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Is this actually a Streetly product?



 

 

Yeah? And I bet those knobs aren't available either.

 

In a message dated 5/4/2013 2:48:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tron400@yahoo.com writes:

 

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 



 

--

 

Gino Wong Birgelo

BSComm, BSEE,

ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design

Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics

 

 

 




--

Gino Wong Birgelo
BSComm, BSEE,
ReRED Recording, Analog Sound Design
Audio Mastering, Recording & Restoration, Logistics



Re: Is this actually a Streetly product?

2013-05-06 by Nick Hewitt

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "tron400" <tron400@...> wrote:
>
> http://m.matrixsynth.com/2013/05/rare-bbc-1967-mellotron-peg-programme.html#more
>
> Bernie


There's a couple of discrepancies I've noticed. Firstly, the text says that the PEG was developed for the BBC, yet a press cutting says that the one in the picture is with London Weekend Television (presumably att their Wembley studios)
Secondly, the makers plate says "220 - 240V, 60 cycles, though the '60 cycles' looks like an overlaid label. 220V is the standard voltage for most of Mainland Europe, whereas the U.K. was and still is 240V. Both are at 50 cycles (per second), whereas the USA is 60 cycles, but they are only 115V. An explanation. please.
Streetly took their name from a village north of Birmingham, west of Sutton Coldfield. I thought Streetly was JUST in Staffordshire, or were there boundary changes?

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Is this actually a Streetly product?

2013-05-06 by tronbros

PEG was developed with the BBC. They never took the number of units they indicated. John knows a lot more than me but the heart of the system was a clever, self lacing tape cartridge that Streetly perfected. Another work of engineering excellence that never brought the rewards. 

M

1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons

mellotronics.com on my iPad




On 6 May 2013, at 21:40, "Nick Hewitt" <nickhewitt235@btinternet.com> wrote:

 



--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "tron400" <tron400@...> wrote:
>
> http://m.matrixsynth.com/2013/05/rare-bbc-1967-mellotron-peg-programme.html#more
>
> Bernie

There's a couple of discrepancies I've noticed. Firstly, the text says that the PEG was developed for the BBC, yet a press cutting says that the one in the picture is with London Weekend Television (presumably att their Wembley studios)
Secondly, the makers plate says "220 - 240V, 60 cycles, though the '60 cycles' looks like an overlaid label. 220V is the standard voltage for most of Mainland Europe, whereas the U.K. was and still is 240V. Both are at 50 cycles (per second), whereas the USA is 60 cycles, but they are only 115V. An explanation. please.
Streetly took their name from a village north of Birmingham, west of Sutton Coldfield. I thought Streetly was JUST in Staffordshire, or were there boundary changes?

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Is this actually a Streetly product?

2013-05-07 by Mike Dickson

Serial number 47? Are there 46 others out there? (That would mean there were more PEGs than Mk Vs, no?)


On 6 May 2013 22:04, tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> wrote:
 

PEG was developed with the BBC. They never took the number of units they indicated. John knows a lot more than me but the heart of the system was a clever, self lacing tape cartridge that Streetly perfected. Another work of engineering excellence that never brought the rewards. 

M

1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons

mellotronics.com on my iPad




On 6 May 2013, at 21:40, "Nick Hewitt" <nickhewitt235@btinternet.com> wrote:

 



--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "tron400" <tron400@...> wrote:
>
> http://m.matrixsynth.com/2013/05/rare-bbc-1967-mellotron-peg-programme.html#more
>
> Bernie

There's a couple of discrepancies I've noticed. Firstly, the text says that the PEG was developed for the BBC, yet a press cutting says that the one in the picture is with London Weekend Television (presumably att their Wembley studios)
Secondly, the makers plate says "220 - 240V, 60 cycles, though the '60 cycles' looks like an overlaid label. 220V is the standard voltage for most of Mainland Europe, whereas the U.K. was and still is 240V. Both are at 50 cycles (per second), whereas the USA is 60 cycles, but they are only 115V. An explanation. please.
Streetly took their name from a village north of Birmingham, west of Sutton Coldfield. I thought Streetly was JUST in Staffordshire, or were there boundary changes?




--
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Is this actually a Streetly product?

2013-05-07 by Mark

They probably started the production run from 45!


On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:
 

Serial number 47? Are there 46 others out there? (That would mean there were more PEGs than Mk Vs, no?)


On 6 May 2013 22:04, tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> wrote:
 

PEG was developed with the BBC. They never took the number of units they indicated. John knows a lot more than me but the heart of the system was a clever, self lacing tape cartridge that Streetly perfected. Another work of engineering excellence that never brought the rewards. 

M

1963 to 2013 - 50 years of mellotrons

mellotronics.com on my iPad




On 6 May 2013, at 21:40, "Nick Hewitt" <nickhewitt235@btinternet.com> wrote:

 



--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "tron400" <tron400@...> wrote:
>
> http://m.matrixsynth.com/2013/05/rare-bbc-1967-mellotron-peg-programme.html#more
>
> Bernie

There's a couple of discrepancies I've noticed. Firstly, the text says that the PEG was developed for the BBC, yet a press cutting says that the one in the picture is with London Weekend Television (presumably att their Wembley studios)
Secondly, the makers plate says "220 - 240V, 60 cycles, though the '60 cycles' looks like an overlaid label. 220V is the standard voltage for most of Mainland Europe, whereas the U.K. was and still is 240V. Both are at 50 cycles (per second), whereas the USA is 60 cycles, but they are only 115V. An explanation. please.
Streetly took their name from a village north of Birmingham, west of Sutton Coldfield. I thought Streetly was JUST in Staffordshire, or were there boundary changes?




--
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh