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Now this is self-indulgent crap!

Self-indulgent crap

Warning this is only mellotronish.

Mark

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "mellotronmadness" <mellotronmadness@...> wrote:
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> Now this is self-indulgent crap!
> Self-indulgent crap
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe7Tol9w3wk&feature=youtu.be>
> Warning this is only mellotronish.
> Mark
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--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:
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> I like the middle section. Very good flow and timing. How did you like working with the Korg Microsampler? Your M300a samples sound sweet.
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> Clay
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> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "mellotronmadness" <mellotronmadness@> wrote:
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> > Now this is self-indulgent crap!
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> > <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe7Tol9w3wk&feature=youtu.be>
> > Warning this is only mellotronish.
> > Mark
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--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, R l <bluesrock77@...> wrote:
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> Hi, tks, and so am I...I just bought a M-Tron pro...and as soon as I understand how this beast works I promise to self-indulge in never ending massive tron chords, brass, violins, accordion, whatever comes across...all minor of course...not a single 'happy' note...something like Tangerine Dream's "Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares" or Popol Vuh's "Aguirre"...on a loop....extremely boring and self-indulgent AND pretentious...all true qualities of a Tron lover.
> best y'all
> Roberto
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> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> From: tron400@...
> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:36:41 +0000
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--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
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> OMG. I've just caught up on this thread...
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> Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then...
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> More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at...
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> Andy K
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> PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...!
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> kinchmusic@...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mellotronmadness <mellotronmadness@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:45
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
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> Welcome Roberto,
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> I don't think there are any happy notes on a mellotron, even major chords sound miserable! I hadn't thought of it that way but the tron is a very self indulgent instrument, your proposed music sounds wonderful, please post it to the list.
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> Cheers
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> Mark
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> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, R l <bluesrock77@> wrote:
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> > Hi, tks, and so am I...I just bought a M-Tron pro...and as soon as I understand how this beast works I promise to self-indulge in never ending massive tron chords, brass, violins, accordion, whatever comes across...all minor of course...not a single 'happy' note...something like Tangerine Dream's "Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares" or Popol Vuh's "Aguirre"...on a loop....extremely boring and self-indulgent AND pretentious...all true qualities of a Tron lover.
> > best y'all
> > Roberto
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> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
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Hi TOny,

Just what the doctor ordered this site...of course there's nothing else besides minors...just as Ian Stewart (Stones) used to say..."if the key is major I won't play it"!!!

Every e-mail is a big laughter! I really appreciate being here.

Thank y'all

Roberto

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: atm655@verizon.net
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:46:41 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap

Roberto you have joined the correct group of people.

Are there any other chords besides minors?

Tony

From: R l

Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 8:24 PM

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap

My oh my ...this is pure heaven miserable souls like me who love minor chords !!! Who could ask for more!! ...last night I indulged on Lizard & Islands...all versions !! remastered..original...whatever...plenty of Trons all over...slept sooo well...

best y'all

Roberto

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: mellotronmadness@yahoo.com.au
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap

Surely we all love miserable self indulgent crap, why else would we be here? Bring on the block chords!

Mark

PS link doesn't show on the list site, so will have to catch up with it later, sounds good though.

--- In mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com, Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
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> OMG. I've just caught up on this thread...
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> Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then...
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> More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at...
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> I'll get my coat.
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> Andy K
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> PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...!
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> Andy Kinch
> kinchmusic@...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mellotronmadness <mellotronmadness@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:45
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
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> Welcome Roberto,
>
> I don't think there are any happy notes on a mellotron, even major chords sound miserable! I hadn't thought of it that way but the tron is a very self indulgent instrument, your proposed music sounds wonderful, please post it to the list.
>
> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
> --- In mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com, R l <bluesrock77@> wrote:
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> > Hi, tks, and so am I...I just bought a M-Tron pro...and as soon as I understand how this beast works I promise to self-indulge in never ending massive tron chords, brass, violins, accordion, whatever comes across...all minor of course...not a single 'happy' note...something like Tangerine Dream's "Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares" or Popol Vuh's "Aguirre"...on a loop....extremely boring and self-indulgent AND pretentious...all true qualities of a Tron lover.
> > best y'all
> > Roberto
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> > To: mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com
> > From: tron400@
> > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 14:36:41 +0000
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Hi TOny,

Just what the doctor ordered this site...of course there's nothing else besides minors...just as Ian Stewart (Stones) used to say..."if the key is major I won't play it"!!!

Every e-mail is a big laughter! I really appreciate being here.

Thank y'all

Roberto

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: atm655@verizon.net
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:46:41 -0400
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap

Roberto you have joined the correct group of people.

Are there any other chords besides minors?

Tony

From: R l

Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 8:24 PM

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap

My oh my ...this is pure heaven miserable souls like me who love minor chords !!! Who could ask for more!! ...last night I indulged on Lizard & Islands...all versions !! remastered..original...whatever...plenty of Trons all over...slept sooo well...

best y'all

Roberto

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
From: mellotronmadness@yahoo.com.au
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:41:29 +0000
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap

Surely we all love miserable self indulgent crap, why else would we be here? Bring on the block chords!

Mark

PS link doesn't show on the list site, so will have to catch up with it later, sounds good though.

--- In mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com, Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
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>
> OMG. I've just caught up on this thread...
>
> Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then...
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> More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at...
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> I'll get my coat.
>
> Andy K
>
> PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...!
>
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> Andy Kinch
> kinchmusic@...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: mellotronmadness <mellotronmadness@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:45
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
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> Welcome Roberto,
>
> I don't think there are any happy notes on a mellotron, even major chords sound miserable! I hadn't thought of it that way but the tron is a very self indulgent instrument, your proposed music sounds wonderful, please post it to the list.
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> Cheers
>
> Mark
>
> --- In mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com, R l <bluesrock77@> wrote:
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> > Hi, tks, and so am I...I just bought a M-Tron pro...and as soon as I understand how this beast works I promise to self-indulge in never ending massive tron chords, brass, violins, accordion, whatever comes across...all minor of course...not a single 'happy' note...something like Tangerine Dream's "Mysterious Semblance at the Strand of Nightmares" or Popol Vuh's "Aguirre"...on a loop....extremely boring and self-indulgent AND pretentious...all true qualities of a Tron lover.
> > best y'all
> > Roberto
> >
> > To: mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com
> > From: tron400@
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On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com> wrote:

John,

I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too !

I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson.

Also, check out Mal Waldron.

With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past.

Robert

--

john barrick

*Leo got it right the first time*

*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*

Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James.

Art Tatum is like an insane mathematician with a piano. I'm afraid that sometimes his playing transcends music.

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 4:16 PM, Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com> wrote:

John,

I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too !

I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson.

Also, check out Mal Waldron.

With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past.

Robert

--

john barrick

*Leo got it right the first time*

*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Robert <rmrmax@...> wrote:
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> Roberto,
>
> Maybe you are right ?
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> There are many artists I like (i.e. Michael Mantler, Terje Rypdal, Robert Wyatt, Eberhard Weber, etc.) that release albums that are jazz oriented and I think the Mellotron would add a beautiful touch to. Some of these musicians actually used the Mellotron in some of their albums in years past.
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> Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully.
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> Robert
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFS28nBk0E&feature=related
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> ________________________________
> From: R l <bluesrock77@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
>
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> I think that the Tron and jazz are back to back to each other...the Tron is soooo slow, it has a lot of delay...so much so  that most of these players would probably give up on the first chords...besides...it's OUT of tune...foreverrrr...thank God!
>
> best,
>
> Roberto
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> From: rmrmax@...
> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
>
>
> John,
>
> I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too !
>
> I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson.
>
> Also, check out Mal Waldron.
>
>
> With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past.
>
>
> Robert
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: John Hammaren <hammaren@...>
> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
>
>
> Â
> Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, it’s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff.
> Â
> From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@...
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
> Â
> Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James.
>
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> fritz
> Â
> Â
> Â
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert <rmrmax@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
> I like both....
> Â
> My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites.Â
> Â
> Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it.
> Â
> Robert
> Â
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY
> Â
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY
> Â
>
> ________________________________
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> From:Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
> Â
> OMG. I've just caught up on this thread...
> Â
> Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then...
> Â
> Â
> More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at...
> Â
> I'll get my coat.
> Â
> Andy K
> Â
> PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...!
>
>
> Â
> Andy Kinch
> kinchmusic@...
> Â
> Â
>

I am also a fan of Robert Wyatt, I think he only used the mellotron on the first Matching Mole album. His tron playing is interesting, I wouldn't say that he is technically a great keyboard player, he was I think a much better drummer.

I think anyone who is a very good piano player is not likely to be that interested in the mellotron because of it's limitations.

Often the people who played mellotron on the albums of 60's and 70's weren't primarily keyboard players.

Woolly Wolstenholme my favourite mellotron player was largely self taught and and I don't think he was a great piano player.

I would be intrigued to know what Oscar Peterson did with his mellotrons, does anybody know of any recordings?

Mark

PS My piano tuner always complains about the delay when he plays my tron but I don't notice it. I wonder if I ever become a good piano player I will lose interest in the tron. Fat chance of that!

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Robert <rmrmax@...> wrote:
>
> Roberto,
>
> Maybe you are right ?
>
> There are many artists I like (i.e. Michael Mantler, Terje Rypdal, Robert Wyatt, Eberhard Weber, etc.) that release albums that are jazz oriented and I think the Mellotron would add a beautiful touch to. Some of these musicians actually used the Mellotron in some of their albums in years past.
>
> Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully.
>
>
> Robert
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFS28nBk0E&feature=related
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: R l <bluesrock77@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
>
>
> Â
> I think that the Tron and jazz are back to back to each other...the Tron is soooo slow, it has a lot of delay...so much so  that most of these players would probably give up on the first chords...besides...it's OUT of tune...foreverrrr...thank God!
>
> best,
>
> Roberto
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> From: rmrmax@...
> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
>
>
> John,
>
> I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too !
>
> I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson.
>
> Also, check out Mal Waldron.
>
>
> With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past.
>
>
> Robert
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: John Hammaren <hammaren@...>
> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
>
>
> Â
> Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, it’s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff.
> Â
> From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@...
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
> Â
> Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James.
>
>
> fritz
> Â
> Â
> Â
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert <rmrmax@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
> I like both....
> Â
> My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites.Â
> Â
> Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it.
> Â
> Robert
> Â
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY
> Â
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY
> Â
>
> ________________________________
>
> From:Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
> Â
> OMG. I've just caught up on this thread...
> Â
> Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then...
> Â
> Â
> More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at...
> Â
> I'll get my coat.
> Â
> Andy K
> Â
> PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...!
>
>
> Â
> Andy Kinch
> kinchmusic@...
> Â
> Â
>

Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully.

Robert

I'm a huge fan of Robert Wyatt and love the way he tortured the Mellotron on Matching Mole's first record, but to me jazz and the Mellotron just don't go together. The playing limitations of the instrument are one thing, but there is something a little deeper. Jazz (to me) was always about 'precise imprecision', or in other words the way that very good musicians can play together in a way that sounds all over the map but which is actually pretty tight. On the other hand, the Tron is the exact opposite - it's imprecise precision, in that few notes are really in tune (or are only close to it) and has absolutely no way of playing anything very quickly. I'd have thought most jazz types would run a mile from a Mellotron!!

Mike

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
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> There should be no delay when you play your 'tron. Over adjustment of everything creates this awful characteristic!
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> Best,
>
> M
>
> mellotronics.co.uk
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> On 13 Apr 2012, at 07:26, "mellotronmadness" <markpringnz@...> wrote:
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> > I am also a fan of Robert Wyatt, I think he only used the mellotron on the first Matching Mole album. His tron playing is interesting, I wouldn't say that he is technically a great keyboard player, he was I think a much better drummer.
> >
> > I think anyone who is a very good piano player is not likely to be that interested in the mellotron because of it's limitations.
> >
> > Often the people who played mellotron on the albums of 60's and 70's weren't primarily keyboard players.
> >
> > Woolly Wolstenholme my favourite mellotron player was largely self taught and and I don't think he was a great piano player.
> >
> > I would be intrigued to know what Oscar Peterson did with his mellotrons, does anybody know of any recordings?
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > PS My piano tuner always complains about the delay when he plays my tron but I don't notice it. I wonder if I ever become a good piano player I will lose interest in the tron. Fat chance of that!
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Robert <rmrmax@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Roberto,
> > >
> > > Maybe you are right ?
> > >
> > > There are many artists I like (i.e. Michael Mantler, Terje Rypdal, Robert Wyatt, Eberhard Weber, etc.) that release albums that are jazz oriented and I think the Mellotron would add a beautiful touch to. Some of these musicians actually used the Mellotron in some of their albums in years past.
> > >
> > > Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully.
> > >
> > >
> > > Robert
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFS28nBk0E&feature=related
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: R l <bluesrock77@>
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > I think that the Tron and jazz are back to back to each other...the Tron is soooo slow, it has a lot of delay...so much so  that most of these players would probably give up on the first chords...besides...it's OUT of tune...foreverrrr...thank God!
> > >
> > > best,
> > >
> > > Roberto
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: rmrmax@
> > > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700
> > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
> > >
> > >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too !
> > >
> > > I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson.
> > >
> > > Also, check out Mal Waldron.
> > >
> > >
> > > With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past.
> > >
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: John Hammaren <hammaren@>
> > > To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, it’s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff.
> > > Â
> > > From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
> > > Â
> > > Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James.
> > >
> > >
> > > fritz
> > > Â
> > > Â
> > > Â
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Robert <rmrmax@>
> > > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm
> > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
> > > I like both....
> > > Â
> > > My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites.Â
> > > Â
> > > Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it.
> > > Â
> > > Robert
> > > Â
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY
> > > Â
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY
> > > Â
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > > From:Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@>
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
> > > Â
> > > OMG. I've just caught up on this thread...
> > > Â
> > > Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then...
> > > Â
> > > Â
> > > More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at...
> > > Â
> > > I'll get my coat.
> > > Â
> > > Andy K
> > > Â
> > > PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...!
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Andy Kinch
> > > kinchmusic@
> > > Â
> > > Â
> > >
> >
> >
>

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
>
> Check out John Medeski. He can play wild stuff on a 'tron, even an unserviced one! A mellotron can be made to have a super light playing action that is redponsive and fast if needed. The standard setting that left the factory was a belt and braces adjustment to defeat any climatic change or mishandling. Hence the block chord playing most of the time.
>
> M
>
> mellotronics.co.uk
>
>
>
> On 13 Apr 2012, at 08:45, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> > I'm a huge fan of Robert Wyatt and love the way he tortured the Mellotron on Matching Mole's first record, but to me jazz and the Mellotron just don't go together. The playing limitations of the instrument are one thing, but there is something a little deeper. Jazz (to me) was always about 'precise imprecision', or in other words the way that very good musicians can play together in a way that sounds all over the map but which is actually pretty tight. On the other hand, the Tron is the exact opposite - it's imprecise precision, in that few notes are really in tune (or are only close to it) and has absolutely no way of playing anything very quickly. I'd have thought most jazz types would run a mile from a Mellotron!!
> >
> > Mike
> >
>

There should be no delay when you play your 'tron. Over adjustment of everything creates this awful characteristic!

Best,

M

mellotronics.co.uk

On 13 Apr 2012, at 07:26, "mellotronmadness" <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

I am also a fan of Robert Wyatt, I think he only used the mellotron on the first Matching Mole album. His tron playing is interesting, I wouldn't say that he is technically a great keyboard player, he was I think a much better drummer.

I think anyone who is a very good piano player is not likely to be that interested in the mellotron because of it's limitations.

Often the people who played mellotron on the albums of 60's and 70's weren't primarily keyboard players.

Woolly Wolstenholme my favourite mellotron player was largely self taught and and I don't think he was a great piano player.

I would be intrigued to know what Oscar Peterson did with his mellotrons, does anybody know of any recordings?

Mark

PS My piano tuner always complains about the delay when he plays my tron but I don't notice it. I wonder if I ever become a good piano player I will lose interest in the tron. Fat chance of that!

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Robert <rmrmax@...> wrote:
>
> Roberto,
>
> Maybe you are right ?
>
> There are many artists I like (i.e. Michael Mantler, Terje Rypdal, Robert Wyatt, Eberhard Weber, etc.) that release albums that are jazz oriented and I think the Mellotron would add a beautiful touch to. Some of these musicians actually used the Mellotron in some of their albums in years past.
>
> Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully.
>
>
> Robert
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFS28nBk0E&feature=related
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: R l <bluesrock77@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
>
>
> Â
> I think that the Tron and jazz are back to back to each other...the Tron is soooo slow, it has a lot of delay...so much so  that most of these players would probably give up on the first chords...besides...it's OUT of tune...foreverrrr...thank God!
>
> best,
>
> Roberto
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> From: rmrmax@...
> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
>
>
> John,
>
> I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too !
>
> I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson.
>
> Also, check out Mal Waldron.
>
>
> With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past.
>
>
> Robert
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: John Hammaren <hammaren@...>
> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
>
>
> Â
> Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, it’s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff.
> Â
> From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@...
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
> Â
> Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James.
>
>
> fritz
> Â
> Â
> Â
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert <rmrmax@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
> I like both....
> Â
> My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites.Â
> Â
> Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it.
> Â
> Robert
> Â
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY
> Â
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY
> Â
>
> ________________________________
>
> From:Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
> Â
> OMG. I've just caught up on this thread...
> Â
> Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then...
> Â
> Â
> More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at...
> Â
> I'll get my coat.
> Â
> Andy K
> Â
> PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...!
>
>
> Â
> Andy Kinch
> kinchmusic@...
> Â
> Â
>

Martin -
Please explain "over adjustment".
Thanks
Vance

tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> wrote:

There should be no delay when you play your 'tron. Over adjustment of everything creates this awful characteristic!

Best,

M

mellotronics.co.uk

On 13 Apr 2012, at 07:26, "mellotronmadness" <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

I am also a fan of Robert Wyatt, I think he only used the mellotron on the first Matching Mole album. His tron playing is interesting, I wouldn't say that he is technically a great keyboard player, he was I think a much better drummer.

I think anyone who is a very good piano player is not likely to be that interested in the mellotron because of it's limitations.

Often the people who played mellotron on the albums of 60's and 70's weren't primarily keyboard players.

Woolly Wolstenholme my favourite mellotron player was largely self taught and and I don't think he was a great piano player.

I would be intrigued to know what Oscar Peterson did with his mellotrons, does anybody know of any recordings?

Mark

PS My piano tuner always complains about the delay when he plays my tron but I don't notice it. I wonder if I ever become a good piano player I will lose interest in the tron. Fat chance of that!

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Robert <rmrmax@...> wrote:
>
> Roberto,
>
> Maybe you are right ?
>
> There are many artists I like (i.e. Michael Mantler, Terje Rypdal, Robert Wyatt, Eberhard Weber, etc.) that release albums that are jazz oriented and I think the Mellotron would add a beautiful touch to. Some of these musicians actually used the Mellotron in some of their albums in years past.
>
> Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully.
>
>
> Robert
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFS28nBk0E&feature=related
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: R l <bluesrock77@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
>
>
> Â
> I think that the Tron and jazz are back to back to each other...the Tron is soooo slow, it has a lot of delay...so much so  that most of these players would probably give up on the first chords...besides...it's OUT of tune...foreverrrr...thank God!
>
> best,
>
> Roberto
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> From: rmrmax@...
> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
>
>
> John,
>
> I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too !
>
> I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson.
>
> Also, check out Mal Waldron.
>
>
> With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past.
>
>
> Robert
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: John Hammaren <hammaren@...>
> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM
> Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
>
>
> Â
> Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, it’s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff.
> Â
> From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@...
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
> Â
> Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James.
>
>
> fritz
> Â
> Â
> Â
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert <rmrmax@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
> I like both....
> Â
> My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites.Â
> Â
> Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it.
> Â
> Robert
> Â
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY
> Â
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY
> Â
>
> ________________________________
>
> From:Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
> Â
> OMG. I've just caught up on this thread...
> Â
> Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then...
> Â
> Â
> More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at...
> Â
> I'll get my coat.
> Â
> Andy K
> Â
> PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...!
>
>
> Â
> Andy Kinch
> kinchmusic@...
> Â
> Â
>

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Thompson" <andy.thompson@...> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "mellotronmadness" <markpringnz@...>
> To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 10:34 AM
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: The Tron & Jazz
>
>
> As far as I'm concerned there isn't, my piano tuner used to play one in an
> NZ band in the 70's he insists there was delay in the one he used to play as
> well. I forgive him because he does a great job on my piano.
>
>
> Mark, what's your piano tuner's name? Just wondering whether he recorded
> 'back in the day'.
>
> Andy T.
>

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
>
> Okay Vance and all you mellotron owners....
>
> Pads: a good pad should come from silence to a full sound in 1/4 turn of the adjustment screw. From there you should add 1/2 turn further to establish a good setting.
>
> Rollers: a good roller should come up to full speed from stall in 1/2 turn max. From there you should add 1 full turn to establish a good setting.
>
> Keys: undo the backnut until the key drops away from the bar. Now tighten the nut until the key just touches the rubber strip and add 1/8 turn. This is the correct back pressure. Too little and the key will flap, too much and it will feel like a girder.
>
> Key depth: press down a black ket between two white keys at either end of the keyboard. The key should be no more than 1/6th of an inch above the white key otherwise the action will feel shallow and 'orrible.
>
> If you have the above settings your tron will be a delight. If you don't, it won't.
>
> Best,
>
> Martin
>
> mellotronics.co.uk
>
>
>
> On 13 Apr 2012, at 14:34, vance@... wrote:
>
> > Martin -
> > Please explain "over adjustment".
> > Thanks
> > Vance
> >
> >
> > tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
> >
> > There should be no delay when you play your 'tron. Over adjustment of everything creates this awful characteristic!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > M
> >
> > mellotronics.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
> > On 13 Apr 2012, at 07:26, "mellotronmadness" <markpringnz@...> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I am also a fan of Robert Wyatt, I think he only used the mellotron on the first Matching Mole album. His tron playing is interesting, I wouldn't say that he is technically a great keyboard player, he was I think a much better drummer.
> >>
> >> I think anyone who is a very good piano player is not likely to be that interested in the mellotron because of it's limitations.
> >>
> >> Often the people who played mellotron on the albums of 60's and 70's weren't primarily keyboard players.
> >>
> >> Woolly Wolstenholme my favourite mellotron player was largely self taught and and I don't think he was a great piano player.
> >>
> >> I would be intrigued to know what Oscar Peterson did with his mellotrons, does anybody know of any recordings?
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> PS My piano tuner always complains about the delay when he plays my tron but I don't notice it. I wonder if I ever become a good piano player I will lose interest in the tron. Fat chance of that!
> >>
> >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Robert <rmrmax@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Roberto,
> >> >
> >> > Maybe you are right ?
> >> >
> >> > There are many artists I like (i.e. Michael Mantler, Terje Rypdal, Robert Wyatt, Eberhard Weber, etc.) that release albums that are jazz oriented and I think the Mellotron would add a beautiful touch to. Some of these musicians actually used the Mellotron in some of their albums in years past.
> >> >
> >> > Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Robert
> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFS28nBk0E&feature=related
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: R l <bluesrock77@>
> >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM
> >> > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Â
> >> > I think that the Tron and jazz are back to back to each other...the Tron is soooo slow, it has a lot of delay...so much so  that most of these players would probably give up on the first chords...besides...it's OUT of tune...foreverrrr...thank God!
> >> >
> >> > best,
> >> >
> >> > Roberto
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >> > From: rmrmax@
> >> > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700
> >> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > John,
> >> >
> >> > I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too !
> >> >
> >> > I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson.
> >> >
> >> > Also, check out Mal Waldron.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Robert
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: John Hammaren <hammaren@>
> >> > To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM
> >> > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Â
> >> > Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, it’s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff.
> >> > Â
> >> > From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@
> >> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM
> >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
> >> > Â
> >> > Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > fritz
> >> > Â
> >> > Â
> >> > Â
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Robert <rmrmax@>
> >> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm
> >> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
> >> > I like both....
> >> > Â
> >> > My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites.Â
> >> > Â
> >> > Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it.
> >> > Â
> >> > Robert
> >> > Â
> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY
> >> > Â
> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY
> >> > Â
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> >
> >> > From:Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@>
> >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
> >> > Â
> >> > OMG. I've just caught up on this thread...
> >> > Â
> >> > Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then...
> >> > Â
> >> > Â
> >> > More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at...
> >> > Â
> >> > I'll get my coat.
> >> > Â
> >> > Andy K
> >> > Â
> >> > PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Â
> >> > Andy Kinch
> >> > kinchmusic@
> >> > Â
> >> > Â
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
>
> Okay Vance and all you mellotron owners....
>
> Pads: a good pad should come from silence to a full sound in 1/4 turn of the adjustment screw. From there you should add 1/2 turn further to establish a good setting.
>
> Rollers: a good roller should come up to full speed from stall in 1/2 turn max. From there you should add 1 full turn to establish a good setting.
>
> Keys: undo the backnut until the key drops away from the bar. Now tighten the nut until the key just touches the rubber strip and add 1/8 turn. This is the correct back pressure. Too little and the key will flap, too much and it will feel like a girder.
>
> Key depth: press down a black ket between two white keys at either end of the keyboard. The key should be no more than 1/6th of an inch above the white key otherwise the action will feel shallow and 'orrible.
>
> If you have the above settings your tron will be a delight. If you don't, it won't.
>
> Best,
>
> Martin
>
> mellotronics.co.uk
>
>
>
> On 13 Apr 2012, at 14:34, vance@... wrote:
>
> > Martin -
> > Please explain "over adjustment".
> > Thanks
> > Vance
> >
> >
> > tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
> >
> > There should be no delay when you play your 'tron. Over adjustment of everything creates this awful characteristic!
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > M
> >
> > mellotronics.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
> > On 13 Apr 2012, at 07:26, "mellotronmadness" <markpringnz@...> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I am also a fan of Robert Wyatt, I think he only used the mellotron on the first Matching Mole album. His tron playing is interesting, I wouldn't say that he is technically a great keyboard player, he was I think a much better drummer.
> >>
> >> I think anyone who is a very good piano player is not likely to be that interested in the mellotron because of it's limitations.
> >>
> >> Often the people who played mellotron on the albums of 60's and 70's weren't primarily keyboard players.
> >>
> >> Woolly Wolstenholme my favourite mellotron player was largely self taught and and I don't think he was a great piano player.
> >>
> >> I would be intrigued to know what Oscar Peterson did with his mellotrons, does anybody know of any recordings?
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >> PS My piano tuner always complains about the delay when he plays my tron but I don't notice it. I wonder if I ever become a good piano player I will lose interest in the tron. Fat chance of that!
> >>
> >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Robert <rmrmax@> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Roberto,
> >> >
> >> > Maybe you are right ?
> >> >
> >> > There are many artists I like (i.e. Michael Mantler, Terje Rypdal, Robert Wyatt, Eberhard Weber, etc.) that release albums that are jazz oriented and I think the Mellotron would add a beautiful touch to. Some of these musicians actually used the Mellotron in some of their albums in years past.
> >> >
> >> > Although I like Robert Wyatt's cover of "Round Midnight" just as it is, if Mike Dickson (for example) was so inclined, I bet he could layer a Mellotron part to it and it would work beautifully.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Robert
> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFS28nBk0E&feature=related
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: R l <bluesrock77@>
> >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 5:22 PM
> >> > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Â
> >> > I think that the Tron and jazz are back to back to each other...the Tron is soooo slow, it has a lot of delay...so much so  that most of these players would probably give up on the first chords...besides...it's OUT of tune...foreverrrr...thank God!
> >> >
> >> > best,
> >> >
> >> > Roberto
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >> > From: rmrmax@
> >> > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 14:16:59 -0700
> >> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Errol Garner, Oscar Peterson, etc.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > John,
> >> >
> >> > I love Errol Garner & Oscar Peterson too !
> >> >
> >> > I recommend that you check out Art Tatum; I think he was big influence on Oscar Peterson.
> >> >
> >> > Also, check out Mal Waldron.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > With the resurgence of the Mellotron, hopefully more artists will try to utilize it effectively in some sort of jazz based music, even though it seems, it was not used that successfully in the past.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Robert
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> > From: John Hammaren <hammaren@>
> >> > To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:53 PM
> >> > Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Â
> >> > Maybe Errol Garner, and most definitely Oscar Peterson. Although when you are up at that level, it’s like you say Jesus, I say Mohammed. Room for more than one for sure. Not to say that the Monk is not sitting right up there with them. I will have to spend a little more time with his stuff.
> >> > Â
> >> > From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of fdoddy@
> >> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 3:46 PM
> >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
> >> > Â
> >> > Oh man! If I could be a jazz pianist, it would be Monk! Nobody, before or since, can solo like him. I would have loved to have heard him collaborate with say, Richard D James.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > fritz
> >> > Â
> >> > Â
> >> > Â
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Robert <rmrmax@>
> >> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 3:16 pm
> >> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Chords and Leads
> >> > I like both....
> >> > Â
> >> > My interest in progressive rock and other pop groups in the 70's, directly and indirectly influenced me to become interested in jazz music. Thelonious Monk is one of my favorites.Â
> >> > Â
> >> > Andy - Congratulations on your new album; I look forward to hearing it.
> >> > Â
> >> > Robert
> >> > Â
> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3bZvfYImLY
> >> > Â
> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM13pdyn5JY
> >> > Â
> >> >
> >> > ________________________________
> >> >
> >> > From:Andy Kinch <kinchmusic@>
> >> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:56 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Self-indulgent crap
> >> > Â
> >> > OMG. I've just caught up on this thread...
> >> > Â
> >> > Taking into account all that has been said on this topic, guess I chose the wrong moment to record this then...
> >> > Â
> >> > Â
> >> > More blocked, doom laden tron chords that you can shake a stick at...
> >> > Â
> >> > I'll get my coat.
> >> > Â
> >> > Andy K
> >> > Â
> >> > PS. On the off chance that anyone here actually likes a dose of miserable self -indulgent crap. The album should be ready to be shot at towards the end of the year. Ready..... Aim.......F...!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Â
> >> > Andy Kinch
> >> > kinchmusic@
> >> > Â
> >> > Â
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>