When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-21 by Mike Dickson
Don't say I didn't warn you...less to do with #996, everything to do with the Mellotron brass library...
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When Horns Go Bad
Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-22 by lsf5275@aol.com
It sounds not unlike In a message dated 2/21/2012 4:03:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mike.dickson@gmail.com writes: Don't say I didn't warn you...less to do with #996, everything to do with the Mellotron brass library... _Brass Horror_ (http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/Fanfare%20for%20the%20Common%20Man.mp3) -- Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-22 by Tony
I enjoyed it Mike, thanks. Tony
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It sounds not unlike
In a message dated 2/21/2012 4:03:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mike.dickson@gmail.com writes:
Don't say I didn't warn you...less to do with #996, everything to do with the Mellotron brass library...
Brass Horror
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Mike Dickson, EdinburghRe: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-22 by Vance Pomeroy
Yes - very nice Mike! What are you using for the low droning tones? Vance
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On 2/21/2012 6:37 PM, Tony wrote: > > *I enjoyed it Mike, thanks. * > *Tony Smile* > *From:* lsf5275@aol.com <mailto:lsf5275@aol.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:22 PM > *To:* newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> > *Subject:* Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad > > It sounds not unlike > In a message dated 2/21/2012 4:03:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > mike.dickson@gmail.com writes: > > Don't say I didn't warn you...less to do with #996, everything to > do with the Mellotron brass library... > > Brass Horror > <http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/Fanfare%20for%20the%20Common%20Man.mp3> > -- > Mike Dickson, Edinburgh > >
Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-22 by Bruce Daily
Very good rendition, Mike! The horns went good!
ELP's horns are the ones that went bad.
-Bruce D.
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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
Yes - very nice Mike!
What are you using for the low droning tones?
Vance
On 2/21/2012 6:37 PM, Tony wrote:
What are you using for the low droning tones?
Vance
On 2/21/2012 6:37 PM, Tony wrote:
I enjoyed it Mike, thanks.TonyFrom: lsf5275@aol.comSent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:22 PMSubject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go BadIt sounds not unlikeIn a message dated 2/21/2012 4:03:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mike.dickson@gmail.com writes:Don't say I didn't warn you...less to do with #996, everything to do with the Mellotron brass library...
RE: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-22 by Gary Brumm
Sorry Bruce...there was nothing at all wrong with ELPs horns. That said....good rendition Mike! I don't think the Mellotron horns are quite up to the task though I liked your arrangement!
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From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Daily Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:50 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad Very good rendition, Mike! The horns went good! ELP's horns are the ones that went bad. [:)) laughing] -Bruce D. From: Vance Pomeroy <vance@juniperpacific.com<mailto:vance@juniperpacific.com>> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad Yes - very nice Mike! What are you using for the low droning tones? Vance On 2/21/2012 6:37 PM, Tony wrote: I enjoyed it Mike, thanks. Tony [Smile] From: lsf5275@aol.com<mailto:lsf5275@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:22 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad It sounds not unlike In a message dated 2/21/2012 4:03:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mike.dickson@gmail.com<mailto:mike.dickson@gmail.com> writes: Don't say I didn't warn you...less to do with #996, everything to do with the Mellotron brass library... Brass Horror<http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/private/Fanfare%20for%20the%20Common%20Man.mp3> -- Mike Dickson, Edinburgh
Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-22 by Mike Dickson
Thanks for all the kind words, but I reckon this shows up the extremely ropey quality of the Mellotron horns both in terms of tuning (which is all over the map) and timbres.
I cannot remember who asked, but the low drone in the background is a mix of 3/4 and 1/2 speed brass with a bit of slowed down cellos and 3-violins.
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From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Daily
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:50 PM
Very good rendition, Mike! The horns went good!
ELP9;s horns are the ones that went bad.
-Bruce D.
From: Vance Pomeroy <vance@juniperpacific.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
Yes - very nice Mike!
What are you using for the low droning tones?
Vance
On 2/21/2012 6:37 PM, Tony wrote:
I enjoyed it Mike, thanks.
Tony
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Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
It sounds not unlike
In a message dated 2/21/2012 4:03:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, mike.dickson@gmail.com writes:
Don't say I didn't warn you...less to do with #996, everything to do with the Mellotron brass library...
Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-22 by Bruce Daily
Hi all- Okay, ELP's horns were okay, but their "Fanfare" was 4 minutes too long. As a teen prog enthusiast, most of their "Works" album sets disappointed me. I hated "Pirates". After "Brain Salad Surgery" I expected more pure synthesis, more space. I didn't get it (pun intended). To be fair, I will give "Works" another listen soon. -Bruce D. ________________________________
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From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 1:03 AM Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad Sorry Bruce…there was nothing at all wrong with ELPs horns. That said….good rendition Mike! I don’t think the Mellotron horns are quite up to the task though I liked your arrangement! From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Daily Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:50 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad Very good rendition, Mike! The horns went good! ELP's horns are the ones that went bad. -Bruce D.
RE: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-22 by Gary Brumm
Hi Bruce,
I have to agree about the Works stuff. I think Brain Salad Surgery was the last of my “top” ELP collection. Keith Emerson inspired me to play
however I was never able to play anything like him. I used to think about selling my keyboards after seeing him live out of that frustrationJ!!
Fanfare was long but it was usually due to the knife stabbing portion of the song/medley that didn’t transfer well if you weren’t seeing it live.
Best to All,
Gary
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On Behalf Of Bruce Daily
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:51 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
Hi all-
Okay, ELP's horns were okay, but their "Fanfare" was 4 minutes too long. As a teen prog enthusiast, most of their "Works" album sets disappointed me. I hated "Pirates". After "Brain Salad Surgery" I expected more pure synthesis, more space. I didn't get it (pun intended).
To be fair, I will give "Works" another listen soon.
-Bruce D.
From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 1:03 AM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
Sorry Bruce…there was nothing at all wrong with ELPs horns.
That said….good rendition Mike! I don’t think the Mellotron horns are quite up to the task though I liked your arrangement!
From:
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[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Bruce Daily
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:50 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
Very good rendition, Mike! The horns went good!
ELP's horns are the ones that went bad.
-Bruce D.
Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-22 by william Beith
I recently received a copy of the Sprocket Sessions, Emerson, Lake and Cozy Powell rehearsal sessions prior to their 1986 tour. Pirates and Tarkus are featured along with the ELPowell material. Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Sprocket-Sessions-Emerson-Lake-Powell/dp/B003JIOHBI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329946250&sr=8-1 This recording puts all the PUNCH back into the ELPowell and the EPL material. Bill ________________________________
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From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 2:22:42 PM Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad Hi Bruce, I have to agree about the Works stuff. I think Brain Salad Surgery was the last of my “top” ELP collection. Keith Emerson inspired me to play however I was never able to play anything like him. I used to think about selling my keyboards after seeing him live out of that frustrationJ!! Fanfare was long but it was usually due to the knife stabbing portion of the song/medley that didn’t transfer well if you weren’t seeing it live. Best to All, Gary From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Daily Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:51 AM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad Hi all- Okay, ELP's horns were okay, but their "Fanfare" was 4 minutes too long. As a teen prog enthusiast, most of their "Works" album sets disappointed me. I hated "Pirates". After "Brain Salad Surgery" I expected more pure synthesis, more space. I didn't get it (pun intended). To be fair, I will give "Works" another listen soon. -Bruce D. From:Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 1:03 AM Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad Sorry Bruce…there was nothing at all wrong with ELPs horns. That said….good rendition Mike! I don’t think the Mellotron horns are quite up to the task though I liked your arrangement! From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Daily Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:50 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad Very good rendition, Mike! The horns went good! ELP's horns are the ones that went bad. -Bruce D.
RE: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-22 by Gary Brumm
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From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of william Beith
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 2:10 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
I recently received a copy of the Sprocket Sessions, Emerson, Lake and Cozy Powell rehearsal sessions prior to their 1986 tour. Pirates and Tarkus are featured along with the ELPowell material.
This recording puts all the PUNCH back into the ELPowell and the EPL material.
Bill
From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wed, February 22, 2012 2:22:42 PM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
Hi Bruce,
I have to agree about the Works stuff. I think Brain Salad Surgery was the last of my “top” ELP collection. Keith Emerson inspired me to play
however I was never able to play anything like him. I used to think about selling my keyboards after seeing him live out of that frustrationJ!!
Fanfare was long but it was usually due to the knife stabbing portion of the song/medley that didn’t transfer well if you weren’t seeing it live.
Best to All,
Gary
From:
newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Bruce Daily
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:51 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
Hi all-
Okay, ELP's horns were okay, but their "Fanfare" was 4 minutes too long. As a teen prog enthusiast, most of their "Works" album sets disappointed me. I hated "Pirates". After "Brain Salad Surgery" I expected more pure synthesis, more space. I didn't get it (pun intended).
To be fair, I will give "Works" another listen soon.
-Bruce D.
From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 1:03 AM
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
Sorry Bruce…there was nothing at all wrong with ELPs horns.
That said….good rendition Mike! I don’t think the Mellotron horns are quite up to the task though I liked your arrangement!
From:
newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Bruce Daily
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:50 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
Very good rendition, Mike! The horns went good!
ELP's horns are the ones that went bad.
-Bruce D.
Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-22 by lsf5275@aol.com
That's how I feel every time I see/hear anyone else play. In a message dated 2/22/2012 3:22:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gabru@comsec.net writes: I used to think about selling my keyboards after seeing him live out of that frustrationJ!!
Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-22 by Tony
Same here, and it all started when I got married again. They steal your soul. Happily divorced forever, Tony
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From: lsf5275@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:35 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad That's how I feel every time I see/hear anyone else play. In a message dated 2/22/2012 3:22:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gabru@comsec.net writes: I used to think about selling my keyboards after seeing him live out of that frustrationJ!!
RE: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-23 by Gary Brumm
You hang in there Tony…there’s another future ex-wife just waiting to get at you…and drag you to hell! J
Use the force!!
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:39 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
Same here, and it all started when I got married again.
They steal your soul.
Happily divorced forever,
Tony
From: lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:35 PM
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That's how I feel every time I see/hear anyone else play.
In a message dated 2/22/2012 3:22:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gabru@comsec.net writes:
I used to think about selling my keyboards after seeing him live out of that frustrationJ!!
Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-23 by lsf5275@aol.com
OK, so then the first wife stole your soul. Then the 2nd wife stole your other soul, leaving the third wife with your only remaining soul... I would have stopped at two. In a message dated 2/22/2012 6:39:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@verizon.net writes: Same here, and it all started when I got married again. They steal your soul. Happily divorced forever, Tony
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That's how I feel every time I see/hear anyone else play.
In a message dated 2/22/2012 3:22:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
gabru@comsec.net writes:
I used to think about selling my keyboards after seeing him live out of
that frustrationJ!!Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-23 by Tony
No thanks, 3 times is NOT the charm, so #4 isn’t going to happen. It’s like baseball, 3 strikes and you’re out! Fine by me, Speaking of Hell, the late Sam Kinison, (another Illinois native), put it well (after 2 marriages), “I could be the gate keeper to Hell”. Amen to that! Rent them, and pay them to LEAVE! Tony
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From: Gary Brumm Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:02 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad You hang in there Tony…there’s another future ex-wife just waiting to get at you…and drag you to hell! J Use the force!! From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:39 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad Same here, and it all started when I got married again. They steal your soul. Happily divorced forever, Tony From: lsf5275@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:35 PM To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad That's how I feel every time I see/hear anyone else play. In a message dated 2/22/2012 3:22:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gabru@comsec.net writes: I used to think about selling my keyboards after seeing him live out of that frustrationJ!!
Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-23 by Tony
Hindsight is 20/20, and you’re right! Marriage isn’t for everyone. Tony
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OK, so then the first wife stole your soul. Then the 2nd wife stole your other soul, leaving the third wife with your only remaining soul... I would have stopped at two.
In a message dated 2/22/2012 6:39:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@verizon.net writes:
Same here, and it all started when I got married again.
They steal your soul.
Happily divorced forever,
Tony
From: lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:35 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
That's how I feel every time I see/hear anyone else play.
In a message dated 2/22/2012 3:22:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gabru@comsec.net writes:
I used to think about selling my keyboards after seeing him live out of that frustrationJ!!Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-28 by Chris Dale
I'm late on this topic but I was told by someone that it's actually cheaper to hire women and pay them to leave over a lifetime, than it is to marry them and divorce them.
That's not including all the stress and drama they can cause you.
Part of the problem is many women have lost their traditional values.
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On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 7:47 PM, Tony <atm655@verizon.net> wrote:
No thanks, 3 times is NOT the charm, so #4 isn’t going to happen.It’s like baseball, 3 strikes and you’re out!Fine by me,Speaking of Hell, the late Sam Kinison, (another Illinois native), put it well (after 2 marriages), “I could be the gate keeper to Hell”.Amen to that!Rent them, and pay them to LEAVE!TonyFrom: Gary BrummSent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 7:02 PMSubject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
You hang in there Tony…there’s another future ex-wife just waiting to get at you…and drag you to hell! J
Use the force!!
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:39 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
Same here, and it all started when I got married again.
They steal your soul.
Happily divorced forever,
Tony
From: lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
That's how I feel every time I see/hear anyone else play.
In a message dated 2/22/2012 3:22:56 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, gabru@comsec.net writes:
I used to think about selling my keyboards after seeing him live out of that frustrationJ!!
Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-28 by john barrick
Wow, Chris. Over a lifetime, you should be able to get a pretty decent "frequent flyer" discount of sorts.
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:22 AM, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com> wrote:
-- I'm late on this topic but I was told by someone that it's actually cheaper to hire women and pay them to leave over a lifetime, than it is to marry them and divorce them.
john barrick
*Leo got it right the first time*
*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
Re: [newmellotrongroup] When Horns Go Bad
2012-02-28 by Mike Dickson
On 28 February 2012 06:22, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com> wrote:
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Part of the problem is many women have lost their traditional values.
Like what?