The Mellotron Group

I think this must now be a lost sound. Woolly says he
uses it live but if Fiddling Meanly is any guide it no
longer exists, I understand that he uses the mark II
strings in studio recordings, I certainly have'nt
heard anything since BJH Live that sounds right. I
would love to be able to reproduce that sound which is
what led to my mellotron obsession, but I suspect
that when I finally get 1565 working ( and it is
certainly going to need new tapes ) that I am going to
have to settle for King Crimson rather than 70's BJH.

Mark


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----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Pring

To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:09 AM

Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M300 Woolly's string sound

I think this must now be a lost sound. Woolly says he
uses it live but if Fiddling Meanly is any guide it no
longer exists, I understand that he uses the mark II
strings in studio recordings, I certainly have'nt
heard anything since BJH Live that sounds right. I
would love to be able to reproduce that sound which is
what led to my mellotron obsession, but I suspect
that when I finally get 1565 working ( and it is
certainly going to need new tapes ) that I am going to
have to settle for King Crimson rather than 70's BJH.

Mark

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I am sure the M300 string tapes still exist but I
haven't heard the sound I want, I am not sure if it is
a characteristic of the M300 and the spring line
reverb, Woolly uses an M400 these days using the m300
strings but it is not the same. I haven't quite been
able to determine if this is because he wants a
different sound or that the old sound is unobtainable.
I suspect the latter.

Mark

PS I should not post when pissed!

--- Mattias <Mattias.olsson5@comhem.se> wrote:

> Have you checked with Markus ?
>
> Mattias Olsson
> Roth Händle Studios, Stockholm
> www.roth-handle.nu
> http://www.myspace.com/57224022
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Pring
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:09 AM
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M300 Woolly's string
> sound
>
>
> I think this must now be a lost sound. Woolly says
> he
> uses it live but if Fiddling Meanly is any guide
> it no
> longer exists, I understand that he uses the mark
> II
> strings in studio recordings, I certainly have'nt
> heard anything since BJH Live that sounds right. I
> would love to be able to reproduce that sound
> which is
> what led to my mellotron obsession, but I suspect
> that when I finally get 1565 working ( and it is
> certainly going to need new tapes ) that I am
> going to
> have to settle for King Crimson rather than 70's
> BJH.
>
> Mark
>
>
>

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We have covered this many times.  Yes, yes, yes, the sound of BJH is to do with the M300A violins going through the M300 spring delay line with little of the original signal left.  It's all to do with the M300 itself. 

Once upon a time there was a Bass Accordian and it lived happily ever after.

Should have wished for an M300! Mark II strings on the
new tapes eventually.

--- tronbros@aol.com wrote:

> We have covered this many times. Yes, yes, yes, the
> sound of BJH is to do
> with the M300A violins going through the M300 spring
> delay line with little of
> the original signal left. It's all to do with the
> M300 itself.
>
> M
>
> Streetly Electronics - All Things Mellotronic
>
> _www.mellotronics.com_
> (http://www.mellotronics.com/)
>
> US Sales East: Jimmy Moore_ JMoore6397@aol.com_
> (http://JMoore6397@aol.com/)
> US Sales West: Paul Cox_ pjc56@earthlink.net_
> (http://pjc56@earthlink.net/)
>
>
>
>
>

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Hi Martin,
Just want to be clear about this once and for all, as
I understand it, if you want that sound you have to
have an M300?

Mark
--- tronbros@aol.com wrote:

> We have covered this many times. Yes, yes, yes, the
> sound of BJH is to do
> with the M300A violins going through the M300 spring
> delay line with little of
> the original signal left. It's all to do with the
> M300 itself.
>
> M
>
> Streetly Electronics - All Things Mellotronic
>
> _www.mellotronics.com_
> (http://www.mellotronics.com/)
>
> US Sales East: Jimmy Moore_ JMoore6397@aol.com_
> (http://JMoore6397@aol.com/)
> US Sales West: Paul Cox_ pjc56@earthlink.net_
> (http://pjc56@earthlink.net/)
>
>
>
>
>

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On what I heard I didn't think that Woolly got even
within shouting distance. From "One drop onwards"
although he is producing some very good music the
mellotron sounds are very different and generally
quite disappointing. I understand that the dreaded
M-tron makes an appearance on Caterwauling, although
admittedly not on a track that Woolly had much input
on.


--- kinchmusic@aol.com wrote:

>
> I've got the M300A violins on a Streetly frame, and
> if you experiment with
> various reverbs and delays leaving just a tad of the
> original signal left as
> Martin hinted at, you can get close. Very close.
> Actually I think you can get allot closer than even
> Woolly got on his m400
> when he toured recently. His tron sounded very dry
> in the live mix.
> Andy K
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Ok that has cheered me up a bit, just need to get
1565 going, a set of new tapes and hope the alesis
picothingy doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

Mark

--- tronbros@aol.com wrote:

>
>
> In a message dated 29/01/2008 10:42:39 GMT Standard
> Time,
> markpringnz@yahoo.com writes:
>
> Just want to be clear about this once and for all,
> as
> I understand it, if you want that sound you have to
> have an M300?
>
>
>
> No, you need to get an Alesis PicoVerb, stick the
> M300As through it, turn
> down the treble and leave the mix set to really wet,
> nay drenched with little
> original signal. It sounds VERY close and very
> distant.
>
> M
>
> Streetly Electronics - All Things Mellotronic
>
> _www.mellotronics.com_
> (http://www.mellotronics.com/)
>
> US Sales East: Jimmy Moore_ JMoore6397@aol.com_
> (http://JMoore6397@aol.com/)
> US Sales West: Paul Cox_ pjc56@earthlink.net_
> (http://pjc56@earthlink.net/)
>
>
>
>
>

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$80 no problem!

--- Mark Pring <markpringnz@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ok that has cheered me up a bit, just need to get
> 1565 going, a set of new tapes and hope the alesis
> picothingy doesn't cost an arm and a leg.
>
> Mark
>
> --- tronbros@aol.com wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 29/01/2008 10:42:39 GMT
> Standard
> > Time,
> > markpringnz@yahoo.com writes:
> >
> > Just want to be clear about this once and for
> all,
> > as
> > I understand it, if you want that sound you have
> to
> > have an M300?
> >
> >
> >
> > No, you need to get an Alesis PicoVerb, stick the
> > M300As through it, turn
> > down the treble and leave the mix set to really
> wet,
> > nay drenched with little
> > original signal. It sounds VERY close and very
> > distant.
> >
> > M
> >
> > Streetly Electronics - All Things Mellotronic
> >
> > _www.mellotronics.com_
> > (http://www.mellotronics.com/)
> >
> > US Sales East: Jimmy Moore_ JMoore6397@aol.com_
> > (http://JMoore6397@aol.com/)
> > US Sales West: Paul Cox_ pjc56@earthlink.net_
> > (http://pjc56@earthlink.net/)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>

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That's the spirit, Mark.
jb


Mark Pring wrote:

>
> $80 no problem!
>