The Mellotron Group

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> But the first two examples are Streetly making higher quality sources
> available, not altering or tampering with said source material. To be fair,
> re-timing does sound technically like tampering...

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> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick
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>> But the first two examples are Streetly making higher quality sources
>> available, not altering or tampering with said source material. To be
>> fair,
>> re-timing does sound technically like tampering...
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> The sound of a mellotron is the sound of reduced-bandwith
> wowed-and-fluttered non-linear-tape-distortion.
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> By using higher generation tapes than those which provided the classic
> sounds people heard on their favourite records,
> there's definately a risk of reducing the 'character' of the sound.
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> However I should be clear that I'm not one of the people complaining about
> such things!
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--- On Mon, 7/18/11, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Subject= Re: M4000D nice review with photos
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 18, 2011, 1:13 PM

On 15/07/2011 13:02, feline1973 wrote:

Mike, examples of where the Streetly tape library mentions explicit improvements to the original sounds... (not that I'm saying these don't sound like improvements - but if purists are going to carp about any remastering of the M4000D sounds...)

Woah, Hang on there. The first two refer to earlier generation copies being found - not some weird re-hacking of the sounds to make them sound 'better'. They have better fidelity but are in themselves untouched. That's totally different to the 'improvements' we were speaking about.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Robert <rmrmax@...> wrote:
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> Gentlemen,
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> For somebody like me who has never seen / heard "up close in person", a real Mellotron, Memotron, or the new Digital Mellotron, I really have no opinion (nor should I) on this topic. But I would love to see and hear all 3 together side by side and play them, or better yet, seeing / hearing somebody them who really has some talent. Realistically speaking, this will never happen.
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> This is the only example of EQing that I noticed on Streetly's site:
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> M400 Violins
> Not so huge as the last one. Actually it's just like the Mk II Violins sound,
> just with its testicles removed in a horrible freak accident involving
> piano strings. In an attempt to sweeten the sound of the Mk II strings
> for use with the M400, the sound was entirely remixed to roll off the
> high end EQ and iron out some of the more raucous notes.
> A much smoother (and, some say, less characteristic) sound than the classic string sound, it can be found on several mid-period Genesis compositions.
> Question:
> Is it inappropriate to put the MKII Violins tape on an M400 tape frame ? I would imagine the answer is "no".
> Which of these 2 violin tapes do you guys prefer ?
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> Thanks for responding...
> Robert
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> --- On Mon, 7/18/11, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@...> wrote:
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> From: Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@...>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Subject= Re: M4000D nice review with photos
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, July 18, 2011, 1:13 PM
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> Mike, examples of where the Streetly tape library mentions
> explicit improvements to the original sounds... (not that
> I'm saying these don't sound like improvements - but if
> purists are going to carp about any remastering of the
> M4000D sounds...)
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> Woah, Hang on there. The first two refer to earlier generation
> copies being found - not some weird re-hacking of the sounds to make
> them sound 'better'. They have better fidelity but are in
> themselves untouched. That's totally different to the
> 'improvements' we were speaking about.
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On Jul 18, 2011, at 3:36 PM, tronbros wrote:

We have a lot of reels'o'tape and occasionally we would trawl though some undisturbed stuff and find a gem somewhere on a reel. Maybe an entire recording, an unused or little used copy master, a better transfer, a clearer note we can lift and insert as a replacement and sometimes a gem like the Sad Strings. In the days of analogue this particular recording was abandoned due to too many errors and glitches but digital editing allowed us to create a new set of violins that has been very popular. They sound fragile and mellotronic but needed coaxing into life. And all because we listened to an overlooked 1/4" reel lurking in a pile! Les sat on a lot of stuff.

Best,

Martin

mellotronics.co.uk

On 18 Jul 2011, at 20:03, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:

Hey Mike,

Can you (or maybe Martin) tell us how earlier generations of these tapes were “found”?

Streetly seems like a small company so I was curious……I’m not being a smart ass just

thought it might be an interesting story. J

Gary

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 10:13 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Subject= Re: M4000D nice review with photos

On 15/07/2011 13:02, feline1973 wrote:

Mike, examples of where the Streetly tape library mentions explicit improvements to the original sounds... (not that I'm saying these don't sound like improvements - but if purists are going to carp about any remastering of the M4000D sounds...)

Woah, Hang on there. The first two refer to earlier generation copies being found - not some weird re-hacking of the sounds to make them sound 'better'. They have better fidelity but are in themselves untouched. That's totally different to the 'improvements' we were speaking about.

Hey Mike,

Can you (or maybe Martin) tell us how earlier generations of these tapes were “found”?

Streetly seems like a small company so I was curious……I’m not being a smart ass just

thought it might be an interesting story. J

Gary

From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Dickson
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 10:13 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Subject= Re: M4000D nice review with photos

On 15/07/2011 13:02, feline1973 wrote:

Mike, examples of where the Streetly tape library mentions explicit improvements to the original sounds... (not that I'm saying these don't sound like improvements - but if purists are going to carp about any remastering of the M4000D sounds...)

Woah, Hang on there. The first two refer to earlier generation copies being found - not some weird re-hacking of the sounds to make them sound 'better'. They have better fidelity but are in themselves untouched. That's totally different to the 'improvements' we were speaking about.