The Mellotron Group

The clarities perhaps?

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 4:49 PM, tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> wrote:

Of course that should read "the clarity of the original recordings IS breathtaking".

mellotronics.co.uk

On 21 May 2011, at 22:42, tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> wrote:

Mon Braves,

At last we have started releasing recordings from the original Chamberlin 600 master that Bill Fransen gave Les Bradley in 1962! This master is the actual one that the MKII violins were copied from. Mike Dickson has updated the Tape Library website, recorded demonstration pieces and added narrative in his own unique style. The clarity of the original recordings are breathtaking.

Best,

Martin

mellotronics.co.uk

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 5:49 PM, tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> wrote:

......you could be right but it's too late and I am spent and tomorrow is a busy day and...........anyway, you get the drift.

Actually, it should be "the clarity of those recor..............."

English and beyond.

Best,

M

mellotronics.co.uk

On 21 May 2011, at 23:40, john barrick <barrickjohn262@gmail.com> wrote:

The clarities perhaps?

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 4:49 PM, tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> wrote:

Of course that should read "the clarity of the original recordings IS breathtaking".

mellotronics.co.uk

On 21 May 2011, at 22:42, tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> wrote:

Mon Braves,

At last we have started releasing recordings from the original Chamberlin 600 master that Bill Fransen gave Les Bradley in 1962! This master is the actual one that the MKII violins were copied from. Mike Dickson has updated the Tape Library website, recorded demonstration pieces and added narrative in his own unique style. The clarity of the original recordings are breathtaking.

Best,

Martin

mellotronics.co.uk

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
>
> Mon Braves,
>
> At last we have started releasing recordings from the original Chamberlin 600 master that Bill Fransen gave Les Bradley in 1962! This master is the actual one that the MKII violins were copied from. Mike Dickson has updated the Tape Library website, recorded demonstration pieces and added narrative in his own unique style. The clarity of the original recordings are breathtaking.
>
> Best,
>
> Martin
>
> mellotronics.co.uk
>

On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

> Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I would guess that they would.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi quality if given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast everyone assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through them and they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never underestimate the potential of a mellotron.
>
> Best,
>
> M
>
> mellotronics.co.uk
>
>
>
> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
> > Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I would guess that they would.
>

> I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3 violins played
> on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a working
> Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
>
> Mark
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi quality if
>> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast everyone
>> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through them and
>> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never underestimate the
>> potential of a mellotron.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> M
>>
>> mellotronics.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>>
>> > Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I would
>> guess that they would.
>>
>
>
>

> Any chance of posting a recording?
>
> Mark
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> <tomdcour@...> wrote:
>>
>> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3 violins. I can't
>> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both cases but
>> the
>> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments but each
>> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone control
>> nearly
>> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
>>
>> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3 violins
>> played
>> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a working
>> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
>> >
>> > Mark
>> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi quality
>> if
>> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast
>> everyone
>> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through them
>> and
>> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never underestimate the
>> >> potential of a mellotron.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >> M
>> >>
>> >> mellotronics.co.uk
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I
>> would
>> >> guess that they would.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
>

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@...> wrote:
>
> Mark, I can post note to note samples I made from the same amplifier and
> recording sytems if you like.. It might be better if I actually played the
> same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from them for
> the next week
>
> > Any chance of posting a recording?
> >
> > Mark
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> > <tomdcour@> wrote:
> >>
> >> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3 violins. I can't
> >> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both cases but
> >> the
> >> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments but each
> >> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone control
> >> nearly
> >> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
> >>
> >> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3 violins
> >> played
> >> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a working
> >> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
> >> >
> >> > Mark
> >> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi quality
> >> if
> >> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast
> >> everyone
> >> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through them
> >> and
> >> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never underestimate the
> >> >> potential of a mellotron.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best,
> >> >>
> >> >> M
> >> >>
> >> >> mellotronics.co.uk
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I
> >> would
> >> >> guess that they would.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

It might be better if I actually played the
same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from them for
the next week

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@...> wrote:
>
> Mark, I can post note to note samples I made from the same amplifier and
> recording sytems if you like.. It might be better if I actually played the
> same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from them for
> the next week
>
> > Any chance of posting a recording?
> >
> > Mark
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> > <tomdcour@> wrote:
> >>
> >> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3 violins. I can't
> >> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both cases but
> >> the
> >> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments but each
> >> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone control
> >> nearly
> >> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
> >>
> >> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3 violins
> >> played
> >> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a working
> >> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
> >> >
> >> > Mark
> >> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi quality
> >> if
> >> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast
> >> everyone
> >> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through them
> >> and
> >> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never underestimate the
> >> >> potential of a mellotron.
> >> >>
> >> >> Best,
> >> >>
> >> >> M
> >> >>
> >> >> mellotronics.co.uk
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I
> >> would
> >> >> guess that they would.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

> And where exactly are they?
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/22/2011 8:19:18 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> tomdcour@amnh.org writes:
>
> It might be better if I actually played the
> same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from them for
> the next week
>
>
>

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Thomas C. Doncourt <tomdcour@amnh.org> wrote:

I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3 violins. I can't
say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both cases but the
M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments but each
with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone control nearly
all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.

> I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3 violins played
> on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a working
> Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
>
> Mark
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi quality if
>> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast everyone
>> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through them and
>> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never underestimate the
>> potential of a mellotron.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> M
>>
>> mellotronics.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>>
>> > Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I would
>> guess that they would.
>>
>
>
>

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, markpringnz <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

I see it went for $9000, buy now price.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@...> wrote:
>
> another one on Ebay
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-Chamberlin-M1-M-1-Optigan-Mellotron-/330567982620?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item4cf7631e1c
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@> wrote:
> >
> > Mark, I can post note to note samples I made from the same amplifier and
> > recording sytems if you like.. It might be better if I actually played the
> > same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from them for
> > the next week
> >
> > > Any chance of posting a recording?
> > >
> > > Mark
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> > > <tomdcour@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3 violins. I can't
> > >> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both cases but
> > >> the
> > >> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments but each
> > >> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone control
> > >> nearly
> > >> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
> > >>
> > >> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3 violins
> > >> played
> > >> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a working
> > >> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
> > >> >
> > >> > Mark
> > >> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi quality
> > >> if
> > >> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast
> > >> everyone
> > >> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through them
> > >> and
> > >> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never underestimate the
> > >> >> potential of a mellotron.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Best,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> M
> > >> >>
> > >> >> mellotronics.co.uk
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I
> > >> would
> > >> >> guess that they would.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 1:08 AM

I did studio work for Sylvia Massy (the owner of this Chamberlin) many years ago.

I guess with most of them being located in the greater Los Angeles area, she didn't feel the need to keep it if she could rent one from somebody.

I don't think the Rhythmate will sell for anywhere near the $4500 listing price. There just isn't the demand for them like there is for M1 models.

I doubt this was the last M1 made (the pilot light is a much older style and the switches are not chrome) but should that actually be the case it's build year would be early 1981, and there might be some alternate or unreleased sounds in it.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, markpringnz <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

I see it went for $9000, buy now price.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@...> wrote:
>
> another one on Ebay
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-Chamberlin-M1-M-1-Optigan-Mellotron-/330567982620?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item4cf7631e1c
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@> wrote:
> >
> > Mark, I can post note to note samples I made from the same amplifier and
> > recording sytems if you like.. It might be better if I actually played the
> > same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from them for
> > the next week
> >
> > > Any chance of posting a recording?
> > >
> > > Mark
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> > > <tomdcour@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3 violins. I can't
> > >> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both cases but
> > >> the
> > >> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments but each
> > >> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone control
> > >> nearly
> > >> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
> > >>
> > >> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3 violins
> > >> played
> > >> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a working
> > >> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
> > >> >
> > >> > Mark
> > >> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi quality
> > >> if
> > >> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast
> > >> everyone
> > >> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through them
> > >> and
> > >> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never underestimate the
> > >> >> potential of a mellotron.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Best,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> M
> > >> >>
> > >> >> mellotronics.co.uk
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I
> > >> would
> > >> >> guess that they would.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...> wrote:
>
>    It is also interesting that the last two Chamberlin M1's on eBay had sequential serial numbers (86103 and 86104).
> Â
> Â -Bruce D.
>
>
> --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 1:08 AM
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> I did studio work for Sylvia Massy (the owner of this Chamberlin) many years ago.
>
> I guess with most of them being located in the greater Los Angeles area, she didn't feel the need to keep it if she could rent one from somebody.
>
> I don't think the Rhythmate will sell for anywhere near the $4500 listing price. There just isn't the demand for them like there is for M1 models.
>
> I doubt this was the last M1 made (the pilot light is a much older style and the switches are not chrome) but should that actually be the case it's build year would be early 1981, and there might be some alternate or unreleased sounds in it.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, markpringnz <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> I see it went for $9000, buy now price.
>
>
>
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@> wrote:
> >
> > another one on Ebay
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-Chamberlin-M1-M-1-Optigan-Mellotron-/330567982620?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item4cf7631e1c
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mark, I can post note to note samples I made from the same amplifier and
> > > recording sytems if you like.. It might be better if I actually played the
> > > same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from them for
> > > the next week
> > >
> > > > Any chance of posting a recording?
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> > > > <tomdcour@> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3 violins. I can't
> > > >> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both cases but
> > > >> the
> > > >> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments but each
> > > >> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone control
> > > >> nearly
> > > >> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
> > > >>
> > > >> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3 violins
> > > >> played
> > > >> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a working
> > > >> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Mark
> > > >> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi quality
> > > >> if
> > > >> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast
> > > >> everyone
> > > >> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through them
> > > >> and
> > > >> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never underestimate the
> > > >> >> potential of a mellotron.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Best,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> M
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> mellotronics.co.uk
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I
> > > >> would
> > > >> >> guess that they would.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

It is also interesting that the last two Chamberlin M1's on eBay had sequential serial numbers (86103 and 86104).

-Bruce D.

--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 1:08 AM

I did studio work for Sylvia Massy (the owner of this Chamberlin) many years ago.

I guess with most of them being located in the greater Los Angeles area, she didn't feel the need to keep it if she could rent one from somebody.

I don't think the Rhythmate will sell for anywhere near the $4500 listing price. There just isn't the demand for them like there is for M1 models.

I doubt this was the last M1 made (the pilot light is a much older style and the switches are not chrome) but should that actually be the case it's build year would be early 1981, and there might be some alternate or unreleased sounds in it.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, markpringnz <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

I see it went for $9000, buy now price.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@...> wrote:
>
> another one on Ebay
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-Chamberlin-M1-M-1-Optigan-Mellotron-/330567982620?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item4cf7631e1c
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@> wrote:
> >
> > Mark, I can post note to note samples I made from the same amplifier and
> > recording sytems if you like.. It might be better if I actually played the
> > same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from them for
> > the next week
> >
> > > Any chance of posting a recording?
> > >
> > > Mark
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> > > <tomdcour@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3 violins. I can't
> > >> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both cases but
> > >> the
> > >> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments but each
> > >> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone control
> > >> nearly
> > >> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
> > >>
> > >> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3 violins
> > >> played
> > >> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a working
> > >> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
> > >> >
> > >> > Mark
> > >> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi quality
> > >> if
> > >> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast
> > >> everyone
> > >> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through them
> > >> and
> > >> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never underestimate the
> > >> >> potential of a mellotron.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Best,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> M
> > >> >>
> > >> >> mellotronics.co.uk
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I
> > >> would
> > >> >> guess that they would.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:11 AM, tron400 <tron400@yahoo.com> wrote:

A question about the Solo Female Voice: is it really 17 notes or 25 notes as on the Pinder CD? Maybe the highest 8 notes have been tuned up for the CD?

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...> wrote:
>
>    It is also interesting that the last two Chamberlin M1's on eBay had sequential serial numbers (86103 and 86104).
> Â
> Â -Bruce D.
>
>
> --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...>

> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 1:08 AM
>
>

> Â

>
>
>
> I did studio work for Sylvia Massy (the owner of this Chamberlin) many years ago.
>
> I guess with most of them being located in the greater Los Angeles area, she didn't feel the need to keep it if she could rent one from somebody.
>
> I don't think the Rhythmate will sell for anywhere near the $4500 listing price. There just isn't the demand for them like there is for M1 models.
>
> I doubt this was the last M1 made (the pilot light is a much older style and the switches are not chrome) but should that actually be the case it's build year would be early 1981, and there might be some alternate or unreleased sounds in it.
>
>
>
>

> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, markpringnz <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Â

>
>
>
> I see it went for $9000, buy now price.
>
>
>
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@> wrote:
> >
> > another one on Ebay
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-Chamberlin-M1-M-1-Optigan-Mellotron-/330567982620?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item4cf7631e1c
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mark, I can post note to note samples I made from the same amplifier and
> > > recording sytems if you like.. It might be better if I actually played the
> > > same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from them for
> > > the next week
> > >
> > > > Any chance of posting a recording?
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> > > > <tomdcour@> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3 violins. I can't
> > > >> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both cases but
> > > >> the
> > > >> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments but each
> > > >> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone control
> > > >> nearly
> > > >> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
> > > >>
> > > >> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3 violins
> > > >> played
> > > >> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a working
> > > >> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Mark
> > > >> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi quality
> > > >> if
> > > >> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast
> > > >> everyone
> > > >> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through them
> > > >> and
> > > >> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never underestimate the
> > > >> >> potential of a mellotron.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Best,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> M
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> mellotronics.co.uk
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I
> > > >> would
> > > >> >> guess that they would.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't have access to my Chamberlins right now to check, but I know that the male voice does not go all the way up the keyboard and the female voice does not go all the way down.

They mix in the middle though which is quite nice.

Someone else with Male Voice on switch "A" and Female Voice on switch "B" would be able to help.

Tom are you there?

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:11 AM, tron400 <tron400@yahoo.com> wrote:

A question about the Solo Female Voice: is it really 17 notes or 25 notes as on the Pinder CD? Maybe the highest 8 notes have been tuned up for the CD?

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...> wrote:
>
>    It is also interesting that the last two Chamberlin M1's on eBay had sequential serial numbers (86103 and 86104).
> Â
> Â -Bruce D.
>
>
> --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...>

> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 1:08 AM
>
>

> Â

>
>
>
> I did studio work for Sylvia Massy (the owner of this Chamberlin) many years ago.
>
> I guess with most of them being located in the greater Los Angeles area, she didn't feel the need to keep it if she could rent one from somebody.
>
> I don't think the Rhythmate will sell for anywhere near the $4500 listing price. There just isn't the demand for them like there is for M1 models.
>
> I doubt this was the last M1 made (the pilot light is a much older style and the switches are not chrome) but should that actually be the case it's build year would be early 1981, and there might be some alternate or unreleased sounds in it.
>
>
>
>

> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, markpringnz <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Â

>
>
>
> I see it went for $9000, buy now price.
>
>
>
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@> wrote:
> >
> > another one on Ebay
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-Chamberlin-M1-M-1-Optigan-Mellotron-/330567982620?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item4cf7631e1c
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mark, I can post note to note samples I made from the same amplifier and
> > > recording sytems if you like.. It might be better if I actually played the
> > > same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from them for
> > > the next week
> > >
> > > > Any chance of posting a recording?
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> > > > <tomdcour@> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3 violins. I can't
> > > >> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both cases but
> > > >> the
> > > >> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments but each
> > > >> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone control
> > > >> nearly
> > > >> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
> > > >>
> > > >> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3 violins
> > > >> played
> > > >> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a working
> > > >> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Mark
> > > >> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi quality
> > > >> if
> > > >> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast
> > > >> everyone
> > > >> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through them
> > > >> and
> > > >> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never underestimate the
> > > >> >> potential of a mellotron.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Best,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> M
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> mellotronics.co.uk
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I
> > > >> would
> > > >> >> guess that they would.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

From: lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 3:59 PM

Impressive observation Bruce!

In a message dated 5/24/2011 12:00:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pocotron@yahoo.com writes:

It is also interesting that the last two Chamberlin M1's on eBay had sequential serial numbers (86103 and 86104).

-Bruce D.

--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 1:08 AM

I did studio work for Sylvia Massy (the owner of this Chamberlin) many years ago.

I guess with most of them being located in the greater Los Angeles area, she didn't feel the need to keep it if she could rent one from somebody.

I don't think the Rhythmate will sell for anywhere near the $4500 listing price. There just isn't the demand for them like there is for M1 models.

I doubt this was the last M1 made (the pilot light is a much older style and the switches are not chrome) but should that actually be the case it's build year would be early 1981, and there might be some alternate or unreleased sounds in it.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, markpringnz <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

I see it went for $9000, buy now price.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@...> wrote:
>
> another one on Ebay
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-Chamberlin-M1-M-1-Optigan-Mellotron-/330567982620?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item4cf7631e1c
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@> wrote:
> >
> > Mark, I can post note to note samples I made from the same amplifier and
> > recording sytems if you like.. It might be better if I actually played the
> > same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from them for
> > the next week
> >
> > > Any chance of posting a recording?
> > >
> > > Mark
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> > > <tomdcour@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3 violins. I can't
> > >> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both cases but
> > >> the
> > >> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments but each
> > >> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone control
> > >> nearly
> > >> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
> > >>
> > >> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3 violins
> > >> played
> > >> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a working
> > >> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
> > >> >
> > >> > Mark
> > >> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi quality
> > >> if
> > >> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast
> > >> everyone
> > >> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through them
> > >> and
> > >> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never underestimate the
> > >> >> potential of a mellotron.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Best,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> M
> > >> >>
> > >> >> mellotronics.co.uk
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I
> > >> would
> > >> >> guess that they would.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

> I don't have access to my Chamberlins right now to check, but I know that
> the male voice does not go all the way up the keyboard and the female
> voice
> does not go all the way down.
>
> They mix in the middle though which is quite nice.
>
> Someone else with Male Voice on switch "A" and Female Voice on switch "B"
> would be able to help.
>
> Tom are you there?
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:11 AM, tron400 <tron400@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> A question about the Solo Female Voice: is it really 17 notes or 25
>> notes
>> as on the Pinder CD? Maybe the highest 8 notes have been tuned up for
>> the
>> CD?
>>
>> Bernie
>>
>> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >    It is also interesting that the last two Chamberlin M1's on
>> eBay
>> had sequential serial numbers (86103 and 86104).
>> > Â
>> > Â -Bruce D.
>> >
>> >
>> > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...>
>>
>> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
>> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>> > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 1:08 AM
>> >
>> >
>> > Â
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I did studio work for Sylvia Massy (the owner of this Chamberlin) many
>> years ago.
>> >
>> > I guess with most of them being located in the greater Los Angeles
>> area,
>> she didn't feel the need to keep it if she could rent one from somebody.
>> >
>> > I don't think the Rhythmate will sell for anywhere near the $4500
>> listing
>> price. There just isn't the demand for them like there is for M1 models.
>> >
>> > I doubt this was the last M1 made (the pilot light is a much older
>> style
>> and the switches are not chrome) but should that actually be the case
>> it's
>> build year would be early 1981, and there might be some alternate or
>> unreleased sounds in it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, markpringnz <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Â
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I see it went for $9000, buy now price.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > another one on Ebay
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-Chamberlin-M1-M-1-Optigan-Mellotron-/330567982620?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item4cf7631e1c
>> > >
>> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
>> <tomdcour@> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Mark, I can post note to note samples I made from the same
>> amplifier
>> and
>> > > > recording sytems if you like.. It might be better if I actually
>> played the
>> > > > same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from
>> them
>> for
>> > > > the next week
>> > > >
>> > > > > Any chance of posting a recording?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Mark
>> > > > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
>> > > > > <tomdcour@> wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3
>> violins. I
>> can't
>> > > > >> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both
>> cases
>> but
>> > > > >> the
>> > > > >> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments
>> but
>> each
>> > > > >> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone
>> control
>> > > > >> nearly
>> > > > >> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3
>> violins
>> > > > >> played
>> > > > >> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a
>> working
>> > > > >> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > Mark
>> > > > >> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros
>> <tronbros@>
>> wrote:
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi
>> quality
>> > > > >> if
>> > > > >> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast
>> > > > >> everyone
>> > > > >> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through
>> them
>> > > > >> and
>> > > > >> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never
>> underestimate
>> the
>> > > > >> >> potential of a mellotron.
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >> >> Best,
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >> >> M
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >> >> mellotronics.co.uk
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@>
>> wrote:
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a
>> chamberlin? I
>> > > > >> would
>> > > > >> >> guess that they would.
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>

On 25/05/2011 02:03, Chris Dale wrote:

I don't have access to my Chamberlins right now to check, but I know that the male voice does not go all the way up the keyboard and the female voice does not go all the way down.

They mix in the middle though which is quite nice.

Someone else with Male Voice on switch "A" and Female Voice on switch "B" would be able to help.

Tom are you there?

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:11 AM, tron400 <tron400@yahoo.com> wrote:

A question about the Solo Female Voice: is it really 17 notes or 25 notes as on the Pinder CD? Maybe the highest 8 notes have been tuned up for the CD?

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...> wrote:
>
>    It is also interesting that the last two Chamberlin M1's on eBay had sequential serial numbers (86103 and 86104).
> Â
> Â -Bruce D.
>
>
> --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...>

> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 1:08 AM
>
>

> Â

>
>
>
> I did studio work for Sylvia Massy (the owner of this Chamberlin) many years ago.
>
> I guess with most of them being located in the greater Los Angeles area, she didn't feel the need to keep it if she could rent one from somebody.
>
> I don't think the Rhythmate will sell for anywhere near the $4500 listing price. There just isn't the demand for them like there is for M1 models.
>
> I doubt this was the last M1 made (the pilot light is a much older style and the switches are not chrome) but should that actually be the case it's build year would be early 1981, and there might be some alternate or unreleased sounds in it.
>
>
>
>

> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, markpringnz <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Â

>
>
>
> I see it went for $9000, buy now price.
>
>
>
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@> wrote:
> >
> > another one on Ebay
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-Chamberlin-M1-M-1-Optigan-Mellotron-/330567982620?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item4cf7631e1c
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mark, I can post note to note samples I made from the same amplifier and
> > > recording sytems if you like.. It might be better if I actually played the
> > > same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from them for
> > > the next week
> > >
> > > > Any chance of posting a recording?
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> > > > <tomdcour@> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3 violins. I can't
> > > >> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both cases but
> > > >> the
> > > >> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments but each
> > > >> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone control
> > > >> nearly
> > > >> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
> > > >>
> > > >> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3 violins
> > > >> played
> > > >> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a working
> > > >> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Mark
> > > >> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi quality
> > > >> if
> > > >> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast
> > > >> everyone
> > > >> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through them
> > > >> and
> > > >> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never underestimate the
> > > >> >> potential of a mellotron.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Best,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> M
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> mellotronics.co.uk
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I
> > > >> would
> > > >> >> guess that they would.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

-- 
Mike Dickson, Edinburgh

Free Music Project: http://www.mikedickson.org.uk/ 
Or http://www.last.fm/music/Mike+Dickson                  
Or http://soundcloud.com/mikedickson
Or http://www.planetmellotron.com/revd4.htm#mikedickson   
Or http://www.myspace.com/mellotronworks

> My Female Voices have 25 notes...but the highest half octve or so doesn't
> quite sound natural and the lowest notes sound like they have to shave
> daily. The middle ground is beautiful though-just like the "Ambrosia
> Singers"! The Male Voices on my original set were also 25 notes.
>
>
>> I don't have access to my Chamberlins right now to check, but I know
>> that
>> the male voice does not go all the way up the keyboard and the female
>> voice
>> does not go all the way down.
>>
>> They mix in the middle though which is quite nice.
>>
>> Someone else with Male Voice on switch "A" and Female Voice on switch
>> "B"
>> would be able to help.
>>
>> Tom are you there?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:11 AM, tron400 <tron400@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A question about the Solo Female Voice: is it really 17 notes or 25
>>> notes
>>> as on the Pinder CD? Maybe the highest 8 notes have been tuned up for
>>> the
>>> CD?
>>>
>>> Bernie
>>>
>>> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >    It is also interesting that the last two Chamberlin M1's on
>>> eBay
>>> had sequential serial numbers (86103 and 86104).
>>> > Â
>>> > Â -Bruce D.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...>
>>>
>>> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
>>> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>>> > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 1:08 AM
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Â
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I did studio work for Sylvia Massy (the owner of this Chamberlin)
>>> many
>>> years ago.
>>> >
>>> > I guess with most of them being located in the greater Los Angeles
>>> area,
>>> she didn't feel the need to keep it if she could rent one from
>>> somebody.
>>> >
>>> > I don't think the Rhythmate will sell for anywhere near the $4500
>>> listing
>>> price. There just isn't the demand for them like there is for M1
>>> models.
>>> >
>>> > I doubt this was the last M1 made (the pilot light is a much older
>>> style
>>> and the switches are not chrome) but should that actually be the case
>>> it's
>>> build year would be early 1981, and there might be some alternate or
>>> unreleased sounds in it.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, markpringnz <markpringnz@...>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Â
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I see it went for $9000, buy now price.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > another one on Ebay
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-Chamberlin-M1-M-1-Optigan-Mellotron-/330567982620?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item4cf7631e1c
>>> > >
>>> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
>>> <tomdcour@> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Mark, I can post note to note samples I made from the same
>>> amplifier
>>> and
>>> > > > recording sytems if you like.. It might be better if I actually
>>> played the
>>> > > > same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from
>>> them
>>> for
>>> > > > the next week
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > Any chance of posting a recording?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Mark
>>> > > > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
>>> > > > > <tomdcour@> wrote:
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3
>>> violins. I
>>> can't
>>> > > > >> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both
>>> cases
>>> but
>>> > > > >> the
>>> > > > >> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments
>>> but
>>> each
>>> > > > >> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone
>>> control
>>> > > > >> nearly
>>> > > > >> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3
>>> violins
>>> > > > >> played
>>> > > > >> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a
>>> working
>>> > > > >> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
>>> > > > >> >
>>> > > > >> > Mark
>>> > > > >> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros
>>> <tronbros@>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > > >> >>
>>> > > > >> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi
>>> quality
>>> > > > >> if
>>> > > > >> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi
>>> beast
>>> > > > >> everyone
>>> > > > >> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings
>>> through
>>> them
>>> > > > >> and
>>> > > > >> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never
>>> underestimate
>>> the
>>> > > > >> >> potential of a mellotron.
>>> > > > >> >>
>>> > > > >> >> Best,
>>> > > > >> >>
>>> > > > >> >> M
>>> > > > >> >>
>>> > > > >> >> mellotronics.co.uk
>>> > > > >> >>
>>> > > > >> >>
>>> > > > >> >>
>>> > > > >> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > > >> >>
>>> > > > >> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a
>>> chamberlin? I
>>> > > > >> would
>>> > > > >> >> guess that they would.
>>> > > > >> >>
>>> > > > >> >
>>> > > > >> >
>>> > > > >> >
>>> > > > >>
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>

On 5/24/2011 8:43 PM, Bruce Daily wrote:

Hi all-

I just have to keep everyone entertained!

We know the Mellotron M400 had standard tape sets (flute, violins, 'cello). Did the Chamberlin have a standard set? If so, what were the sounds?

-Bruce D.

--- On Tue, 5/24/11, lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:

From: lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 3:59 PM

Impressive observation Bruce!

In a message dated 5/24/2011 12:00:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pocotron@yahoo.com writes:

It is also interesting that the last two Chamberlin M1's on eBay had sequential serial numbers (86103 and 86104).

-Bruce D.

--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 1:08 AM

I did studio work for Sylvia Massy (the owner of this Chamberlin) many years ago.

I guess with most of them being located in the greater Los Angeles area, she didn't feel the need to keep it if she could rent one from somebody.

I don't think the Rhythmate will sell for anywhere near the $4500 listing price. There just isn't the demand for them like there is for M1 models.

I doubt this was the last M1 made (the pilot light is a much older style and the switches are not chrome) but should that actually be the case it's build year would be early 1981, and there might be some alternate or unreleased sounds in it.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, markpringnz <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

I see it went for $9000, buy now price.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@...> wrote:
>
> another one on Ebay
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-Chamberlin-M1-M-1-Optigan-Mellotron-/330567982620?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item4cf7631e1c
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@> wrote:
> >
> > Mark, I can post note to note samples I made from the same amplifier and
> > recording sytems if you like.. It might be better if I actually played the
> > same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from them for
> > the next week
> >
> > > Any chance of posting a recording?
> > >
> > > Mark
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> > > <tomdcour@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3 violins. I can't
> > >> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both cases but
> > >> the
> > >> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments but each
> > >> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone control
> > >> nearly
> > >> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
> > >>
> > >> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3 violins
> > >> played
> > >> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a working
> > >> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
> > >> >
> > >> > Mark
> > >> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi quality
> > >> if
> > >> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast
> > >> everyone
> > >> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through them
> > >> and
> > >> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never underestimate the
> > >> >> potential of a mellotron.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Best,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> M
> > >> >>
> > >> >> mellotronics.co.uk
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I
> > >> would
> > >> >> guess that they would.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@...> wrote:
>
> Ack! I meant 35 notes.....maybe Markus added a few tuned up and down to
> the female Voice set but i don't think so.
>
> > My Female Voices have 25 notes...but the highest half octve or so doesn't
> > quite sound natural and the lowest notes sound like they have to shave
> > daily. The middle ground is beautiful though-just like the "Ambrosia
> > Singers"! The Male Voices on my original set were also 25 notes.
> >
> >
> >> I don't have access to my Chamberlins right now to check, but I know
> >> that
> >> the male voice does not go all the way up the keyboard and the female
> >> voice
> >> does not go all the way down.
> >>
> >> They mix in the middle though which is quite nice.
> >>
> >> Someone else with Male Voice on switch "A" and Female Voice on switch
> >> "B"
> >> would be able to help.
> >>
> >> Tom are you there?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:11 AM, tron400 <tron400@...> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> A question about the Solo Female Voice: is it really 17 notes or 25
> >>> notes
> >>> as on the Pinder CD? Maybe the highest 8 notes have been tuned up for
> >>> the
> >>> CD?
> >>>
> >>> Bernie
> >>>
> >>> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >    It is also interesting that the last two Chamberlin M1's on
> >>> eBay
> >>> had sequential serial numbers (86103 and 86104).
> >>> > Â
> >>> > Â -Bruce D.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@>
> >>>
> >>> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
> >>> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >>> > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 1:08 AM
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Â
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > I did studio work for Sylvia Massy (the owner of this Chamberlin)
> >>> many
> >>> years ago.
> >>> >
> >>> > I guess with most of them being located in the greater Los Angeles
> >>> area,
> >>> she didn't feel the need to keep it if she could rent one from
> >>> somebody.
> >>> >
> >>> > I don't think the Rhythmate will sell for anywhere near the $4500
> >>> listing
> >>> price. There just isn't the demand for them like there is for M1
> >>> models.
> >>> >
> >>> > I doubt this was the last M1 made (the pilot light is a much older
> >>> style
> >>> and the switches are not chrome) but should that actually be the case
> >>> it's
> >>> build year would be early 1981, and there might be some alternate or
> >>> unreleased sounds in it.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, markpringnz <markpringnz@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Â
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > I see it went for $9000, buy now price.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > another one on Ebay
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-Chamberlin-M1-M-1-Optigan-Mellotron-/330567982620?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item4cf7631e1c
> >>> > >
> >>> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> >>> <tomdcour@> wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Mark, I can post note to note samples I made from the same
> >>> amplifier
> >>> and
> >>> > > > recording sytems if you like.. It might be better if I actually
> >>> played the
> >>> > > > same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from
> >>> them
> >>> for
> >>> > > > the next week
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > Any chance of posting a recording?
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Mark
> >>> > > > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> >>> > > > > <tomdcour@> wrote:
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3
> >>> violins. I
> >>> can't
> >>> > > > >> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both
> >>> cases
> >>> but
> >>> > > > >> the
> >>> > > > >> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments
> >>> but
> >>> each
> >>> > > > >> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone
> >>> control
> >>> > > > >> nearly
> >>> > > > >> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3
> >>> violins
> >>> > > > >> played
> >>> > > > >> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a
> >>> working
> >>> > > > >> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
> >>> > > > >> >
> >>> > > > >> > Mark
> >>> > > > >> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros
> >>> <tronbros@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > > >> >>
> >>> > > > >> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi
> >>> quality
> >>> > > > >> if
> >>> > > > >> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi
> >>> beast
> >>> > > > >> everyone
> >>> > > > >> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings
> >>> through
> >>> them
> >>> > > > >> and
> >>> > > > >> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never
> >>> underestimate
> >>> the
> >>> > > > >> >> potential of a mellotron.
> >>> > > > >> >>
> >>> > > > >> >> Best,
> >>> > > > >> >>
> >>> > > > >> >> M
> >>> > > > >> >>
> >>> > > > >> >> mellotronics.co.uk
> >>> > > > >> >>
> >>> > > > >> >>
> >>> > > > >> >>
> >>> > > > >> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > > >> >>
> >>> > > > >> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a
> >>> chamberlin? I
> >>> > > > >> would
> >>> > > > >> >> guess that they would.
> >>> > > > >> >>
> >>> > > > >> >
> >>> > > > >> >
> >>> > > > >> >
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all-
> Â
> Â I just have to keep everyone entertained!
> Â
>  We know the Mellotron M400 had standard tape sets (flute, violins, 'cello). Did the Chamberlin have a standard set? If so, what were the sounds?
> Â
> Â -Bruce D.
>
>
> --- On Tue, 5/24/11, lsf5275@... <lsf5275@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: lsf5275@... <lsf5275@...>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 3:59 PM
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
>
> Impressive observation Bruce!
> Â
> Â
>
> In a message dated 5/24/2011 12:00:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pocotron@... writes:
> Â
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    It is also interesting that the last two Chamberlin M1's on eBay had sequential serial numbers (86103 and 86104).
> Â
> Â -Bruce D.
>
>
> --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 1:08 AM
>
>
> Â
>
> I did studio work for Sylvia Massy (the owner of this Chamberlin) many years ago.
>
> I guess with most of them being located in the greater Los Angeles area, she didn't feel the need to keep it if she could rent one from somebody.
>
> I don't think the Rhythmate will sell for anywhere near the $4500 listing price. There just isn't the demand for them like there is for M1 models.
>
> I doubt this was the last M1 made (the pilot light is a much older style and the switches are not chrome) but should that actually be the case it's build year would be early 1981, and there might be some alternate or unreleased sounds in it.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, markpringnz <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> I see it went for $9000, buy now price.
>
>
>
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@> wrote:
> >
> > another one on Ebay
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-Chamberlin-M1-M-1-Optigan-Mellotron-/330567982620?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item4cf7631e1c
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mark, I can post note to note samples I made from the same amplifier and
> > > recording sytems if you like.. It might be better if I actually played the
> > > same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from them for
> > > the next week
> > >
> > > > Any chance of posting a recording?
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> > > > <tomdcour@> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3 violins. I can't
> > > >> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both cases but
> > > >> the
> > > >> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments but each
> > > >> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone control
> > > >> nearly
> > > >> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
> > > >>
> > > >> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3 violins
> > > >> played
> > > >> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a working
> > > >> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Mark
> > > >> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi quality
> > > >> if
> > > >> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast
> > > >> everyone
> > > >> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through them
> > > >> and
> > > >> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never underestimate the
> > > >> >> potential of a mellotron.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Best,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> M
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> mellotronics.co.uk
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I
> > > >> would
> > > >> >> guess that they would.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:01 AM, tron400 <tron400@yahoo.com> wrote:

I think the M400 had different standard tape sets in Europe and the U.S. My M400 came with flute/violins/cello, but I think there was also another standard set.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all-
> Â
> Â I just have to keep everyone entertained!
> Â
>  We know the Mellotron M400 had standard tape sets (flute, violins, 'cello). Did the Chamberlin have a standard set? If so, what were the sounds?
> Â
> Â -Bruce D.
>
>
> --- On Tue, 5/24/11, lsf5275@... <lsf5275@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: lsf5275@... <lsf5275@...>

> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 3:59 PM
>
>

> Â
>
>
>
>
> Impressive observation Bruce!
> Â
> Â
>
> In a message dated 5/24/2011 12:00:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pocotron@... writes:
> Â
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    It is also interesting that the last two Chamberlin M1's on eBay had sequential serial numbers (86103 and 86104).
> Â
> Â -Bruce D.
>
>
> --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@...>

> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 1:08 AM
>
>

> Â

>
> I did studio work for Sylvia Massy (the owner of this Chamberlin) many years ago.
>
> I guess with most of them being located in the greater Los Angeles area, she didn't feel the need to keep it if she could rent one from somebody.
>
> I don't think the Rhythmate will sell for anywhere near the $4500 listing price. There just isn't the demand for them like there is for M1 models.
>
> I doubt this was the last M1 made (the pilot light is a much older style and the switches are not chrome) but should that actually be the case it's build year would be early 1981, and there might be some alternate or unreleased sounds in it.
>
>
>
>

> On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, markpringnz <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
>
> Â

>
>
>
> I see it went for $9000, buy now price.
>
>
>
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@> wrote:
> >
> > another one on Ebay
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-Chamberlin-M1-M-1-Optigan-Mellotron-/330567982620?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item4cf7631e1c
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Mark, I can post note to note samples I made from the same amplifier and
> > > recording sytems if you like.. It might be better if I actually played the
> > > same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from them for
> > > the next week
> > >
> > > > Any chance of posting a recording?
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> > > > <tomdcour@> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3 violins. I can't
> > > >> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both cases but
> > > >> the
> > > >> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments but each
> > > >> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone control
> > > >> nearly
> > > >> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
> > > >>
> > > >> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3 violins
> > > >> played
> > > >> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a working
> > > >> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Mark
> > > >> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi quality
> > > >> if
> > > >> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast
> > > >> everyone
> > > >> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through them
> > > >> and
> > > >> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never underestimate the
> > > >> >> potential of a mellotron.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Best,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> M
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> mellotronics.co.uk
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I
> > > >> would
> > > >> >> guess that they would.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:06 AM, markpringnz <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

The female voice on M-Tron has very similar characteristics, I think M-tron was sampled off a Mark II but was originally a chamberlin sound, the upper and lower notes do sound weird, so I wonder if they have been tuned.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@...> wrote:
>

> Ack! I meant 35 notes.....maybe Markus added a few tuned up and down to
> the female Voice set but i don't think so.
>
> > My Female Voices have 25 notes...but the highest half octve or so doesn't
> > quite sound natural and the lowest notes sound like they have to shave
> > daily. The middle ground is beautiful though-just like the "Ambrosia
> > Singers"! The Male Voices on my original set were also 25 notes.
> >
> >
> >> I don't have access to my Chamberlins right now to check, but I know
> >> that
> >> the male voice does not go all the way up the keyboard and the female
> >> voice
> >> does not go all the way down.
> >>
> >> They mix in the middle though which is quite nice.
> >>
> >> Someone else with Male Voice on switch "A" and Female Voice on switch
> >> "B"
> >> would be able to help.
> >>
> >> Tom are you there?
> >>
> >>
> >>

> >> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 6:11 AM, tron400 <tron400@...> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> A question about the Solo Female Voice: is it really 17 notes or 25
> >>> notes
> >>> as on the Pinder CD? Maybe the highest 8 notes have been tuned up for
> >>> the
> >>> CD?
> >>>
> >>> Bernie
> >>>
> >>> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >    It is also interesting that the last two Chamberlin M1's on
> >>> eBay
> >>> had sequential serial numbers (86103 and 86104).
> >>> > Â
> >>> > Â -Bruce D.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@>
> >>>
> >>> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
> >>> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> >>> > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 1:08 AM
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Â
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > I did studio work for Sylvia Massy (the owner of this Chamberlin)
> >>> many
> >>> years ago.
> >>> >
> >>> > I guess with most of them being located in the greater Los Angeles
> >>> area,
> >>> she didn't feel the need to keep it if she could rent one from
> >>> somebody.
> >>> >
> >>> > I don't think the Rhythmate will sell for anywhere near the $4500
> >>> listing
> >>> price. There just isn't the demand for them like there is for M1
> >>> models.
> >>> >
> >>> > I doubt this was the last M1 made (the pilot light is a much older
> >>> style
> >>> and the switches are not chrome) but should that actually be the case
> >>> it's
> >>> build year would be early 1981, and there might be some alternate or
> >>> unreleased sounds in it.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, markpringnz <markpringnz@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Â
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > I see it went for $9000, buy now price.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > another one on Ebay
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-Chamberlin-M1-M-1-Optigan-Mellotron-/330567982620?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item4cf7631e1c
> >>> > >
> >>> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> >>> <tomdcour@> wrote:
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Mark, I can post note to note samples I made from the same
> >>> amplifier
> >>> and
> >>> > > > recording sytems if you like.. It might be better if I actually
> >>> played the
> >>> > > > same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from
> >>> them
> >>> for
> >>> > > > the next week
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > > Any chance of posting a recording?
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > > Mark
> >>> > > > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> >>> > > > > <tomdcour@> wrote:
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3
> >>> violins. I
> >>> can't
> >>> > > > >> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both
> >>> cases
> >>> but
> >>> > > > >> the
> >>> > > > >> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments
> >>> but
> >>> each
> >>> > > > >> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone
> >>> control
> >>> > > > >> nearly
> >>> > > > >> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3
> >>> violins
> >>> > > > >> played
> >>> > > > >> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a
> >>> working
> >>> > > > >> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
> >>> > > > >> >
> >>> > > > >> > Mark
> >>> > > > >> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros
> >>> <tronbros@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > > >> >>
> >>> > > > >> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi
> >>> quality
> >>> > > > >> if
> >>> > > > >> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi
> >>> beast
> >>> > > > >> everyone
> >>> > > > >> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings
> >>> through
> >>> them
> >>> > > > >> and
> >>> > > > >> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never
> >>> underestimate
> >>> the
> >>> > > > >> >> potential of a mellotron.
> >>> > > > >> >>
> >>> > > > >> >> Best,
> >>> > > > >> >>
> >>> > > > >> >> M
> >>> > > > >> >>
> >>> > > > >> >> mellotronics.co.uk
> >>> > > > >> >>
> >>> > > > >> >>
> >>> > > > >> >>
> >>> > > > >> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > > > >> >>
> >>> > > > >> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a
> >>> chamberlin? I
> >>> > > > >> would
> >>> > > > >> >> guess that they would.
> >>> > > > >> >>
> >>> > > > >> >
> >>> > > > >> >
> >>> > > > >> >
> >>> > > > >>
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > > >
> >>> > > >
> >>> > >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@aol.com> wrote:

What I can't remember is whether it would have been Mk2 brass or Mixed Brass B. I rather think it was the latter.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Blechta <rick@rickblechta.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 1:48 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds

On May 25, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Chris Dale wrote:

The earlier standard set was Brass / Violins / Flute according to one of the brochures.

Yes, it was. I ordered one fairly early on (1973) and they changed the standard set just as they shipped mine. It came with cello/violins/flute and I remember being disappointed about not having brass -- at first.

From: Vance Pomeroy <vance@juniperpacific.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds [1 Attachment]
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 11:33 PM

There were four - here's the listing with Harry's notations on variations.

On 5/24/2011 8:43 PM, Bruce Daily wrote:

Hi all-

I just have to keep everyone entertained!

We know the Mellotron M400 had standard tape sets (flute, violins, 'cello). Did the Chamberlin have a standard set? If so, what were the sounds?

-Bruce D.

--- On Tue, 5/24/11, lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:

From: lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 3:59 PM

Impressive observation Bruce!

In a message dated 5/24/2011 12:00:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, pocotron@yahoo.com writes:

It is also interesting that the last two Chamberlin M1's on eBay had sequential serial numbers (86103 and 86104).

-Bruce D.

--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Chamberlin sounds
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 1:08 AM

I did studio work for Sylvia Massy (the owner of this Chamberlin) many years ago.

I guess with most of them being located in the greater Los Angeles area, she didn't feel the need to keep it if she could rent one from somebody.

I don't think the Rhythmate will sell for anywhere near the $4500 listing price. There just isn't the demand for them like there is for M1 models.

I doubt this was the last M1 made (the pilot light is a much older style and the switches are not chrome) but should that actually be the case it's build year would be early 1981, and there might be some alternate or unreleased sounds in it.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:30 AM, markpringnz <markpringnz@gmail.com> wrote:

I see it went for $9000, buy now price.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@...> wrote:
>
> another one on Ebay
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Vintage-Chamberlin-M1-M-1-Optigan-Mellotron-/330567982620?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item4cf7631e1c
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt" <tomdcour@> wrote:
> >
> > Mark, I can post note to note samples I made from the same amplifier and
> > recording sytems if you like.. It might be better if I actually played the
> > same musical passages on the two instuments but I am away from them for
> > the next week
> >
> > > Any chance of posting a recording?
> > >
> > > Mark
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Thomas C. Doncourt"
> > > <tomdcour@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I can compare form an M1 and an M400 on the cello and 3 violins. I can't
> > >> say which I like better though... the M1 is brighter in both cases but
> > >> the
> > >> M400 seems fuller. Two slightly different sounding instruments but each
> > >> with its purpose. The M1 sounds better to me with the tone control
> > >> nearly
> > >> all the way up - the M400 I have the tone at less than half.
> > >>
> > >> > I would be interested to hear I direct comparison of the 3 violins
> > >> played
> > >> > on an M400 and a Chamberlin, has anybody on the list got a working
> > >> > Chamberlin, did Mattias sort his out?
> > >> >
> > >> > Mark
> > >> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Maybe different but not better. The M400 is capable of hifi quality
> > >> if
> > >> >> given good source material. It is not the muffled lofi beast
> > >> everyone
> > >> >> assumes. We have put excellent commercial recordings through them
> > >> and
> > >> >> they handle up to 16k, clear and precisely. Never underestimate the
> > >> >> potential of a mellotron.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Best,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> M
> > >> >>
> > >> >> mellotronics.co.uk
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 22 May 2011, at 00:32, "markpringnz" <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Would these sound a lot different played through a chamberlin? I
> > >> would
> > >> >> guess that they would.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Rick Blechta <rick@...> wrote:
>
>
> On May 25, 2011, at 1:02 PM, tron400 wrote:
>
> > The upper register of the Boys Choir is a bit squeeky, so replacing it with the Chamberlin Female Solo might make a nice split.
> >
> > Bernie
>
> That's an excellent idea. Martin?
>

If you have got 12 minutes to spare and feel like a visit to the old Roth Händle studio.

Modular synths, thingamagoops and white tape organs.

You just might like it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZm-iQwhPo&feature=channel_video_title

Best regards,

Mattias

>
> the male voice does not go all the way up the keyboard and the female voice does not go all the way down.

On May 26, 2011, at 4:10 AM, mattias wrote:

If you have got 12 minutes to spare and feel like a visit to the old Roth Händle studio.

Modular synths, thingamagoops and white tape organs.

You just might like it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZm-iQwhPo&feature=channel_video_title

Best regards,

Mattias

Compliments on your Swedish, Mattias. It is really quite excellent, far better than any of the rest of us.

On May 26, 2011, at 11:31 AM, lsf5275@aol.com wrote:

I just want to know how you put the cool circles over the letter when you write.

The Swedish government gives every citizen a supply of them on the first of the year. Usually it's enough, but sometimes you can run out and have to apply for more, which apparently takes a long time and requires a lot of paperwork. It's a national disgrace, actually.

On May 26, 2011, at 11:48 AM, lsf5275@aol.com wrote:

Well what about foreigners? How do we get them? Do you have to visit or can you send away for some?

Foreigners don't know how to use them. I can get you some on the black market if you really need them.

From: Rick Blechta <rick@rickblechta.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] A little film from the Anima Morte sessions.
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 26, 2011, 9:25 AM

On May 26, 2011, at 4:10 AM, mattias wrote:

If you have got 12 minutes to spare and feel like a visit to the old Roth Händle studio.

Modular synths, thingamagoops and white tape organs.

You just might like it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIZm-iQwhPo&feature=channel_video_title

Best regards,

Mattias

Compliments on your Swedish, Mattias. It is really quite excellent, far better than any of the rest of us.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:
>
> I can't really imagine using the Chamberlin Female Solo voice for anything serious. Harry must have punched her in the ovaries a few times to get her to make some of those nasty sounds.
>
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Rick Blechta rick@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > On May 25, 2011, at 1:02 PM, tron400 wrote:
> >
> > > The upper register of the Boys Choir is a bit squeeky, so replacing it with the Chamberlin Female Solo might make a nice split.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> >
> > That's an excellent idea. Martin?
> >
>

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:42 PM, ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:

I can't really imagine using the Chamberlin Female Solo voice for anything serious. Harry must have punched her in the ovaries a few times to get her to make some of those nasty sounds.

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Rick Blechta <rick@...> wrote:
>
>
> On May 25, 2011, at 1:02 PM, tron400 wrote:
>
> > The upper register of the Boys Choir is a bit squeeky, so replacing it with the Chamberlin Female Solo might make a nice split.
> >
> > Bernie
>
> That's an excellent idea. Martin?
>

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:
>
> I can't really imagine using the Chamberlin Female Solo voice for anything serious. Harry must have punched her in the ovaries a few times to get her to make some of those nasty sounds.
>
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Rick Blechta <rick@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On May 25, 2011, at 1:02 PM, tron400 wrote:
> >
> > > The upper register of the Boys Choir is a bit squeeky, so replacing it with the Chamberlin Female Solo might make a nice split.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> >
> > That's an excellent idea. Martin?
> >
>

On May 27, 2011, at 7:56 AM, fdoddy@aol.com wrote:

It would have been too easy, too expected, too scripted. The challenge would have been to bring something seminal to the discussion and frankly, with the impending holiday here in the New World and energies running low, no one wanted to embarrass themselves. That's why I left it alone. Fer chrissakes, even Mr Stickle passed and he was probably holding a full house. I am curious how wordsmith Blechta would have tackled this one.. ..

I am currently contemplating entering the priesthood so I thought it imprudent to comment at this time.

From: Rick Blechta <rick@rickblechta.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] A little film from the Anima Morte sessions.
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, May 26, 2011, 11:07 AM

On May 26, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Bruce Daily wrote:

Why does the Mellotron turn into a work table in a studio?!?!?!

AARRRGG!

-Bruce D.

Actually, Bruce, Mellotrons were originally worktables. (Ask John Bradley)

One day someone at Streetly got bored and decided to put a keyboard underneath their worktable so he would be something to do when work got a bit slow. Suddenly Streely's management team (all Bradleys) realized the worker was on to Something Big. Taking the prototype down to the pub, they discovered it made a great bar table (room for lots of pints) AND it could be used for sing-a-longs like they used to have in Ye Olde Days. And viola! Mellotrons were born.

Mattias is just carrying this tradition on in a thoroughly Swedish fashion.

S'truth!

On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

On 27/05/2011 13:56, Rick Blechta wrote:

I am currently contemplating entering the priesthood

Better that than the other way around...

On 27/05/2011 13:56, Rick Blechta wrote:

On May 27, 2011, at 7:56 AM, fdoddy@aol.com wrote:

It would have been too easy, too expected, too scripted. The challenge would have been to bring something seminal to the discussion and frankly, with the impending holiday here in the New World and energies running low, no one wanted to embarrass themselves. That's why I left it alone. Fer chrissakes, even Mr Stickle passed and he was probably holding a full house. I am curious how wordsmith Blechta would have tackled this one....

I am currently contemplating entering the priesthood

Better that than the other way around...

On 27/05/2011 13:56, Rick Blechta wrote:

On May 27, 2011, at 7:56 AM, fdoddy@aol.com wrote:

It would have been too easy, too expected, too scripted. The challenge would have been to bring something seminal to the discussion and frankly, with the impending holiday here in the New World and energies running low, no one wanted to embarrass themselves. That's why I left it alone. Fer chrissakes, even Mr Stickle passed and he was probably holding a full house. I am curious how wordsmith Blechta would have tackled this one....

I am currently contemplating entering the priesthood

Better that than the other way around...

Mike Dickson, folks! How about it for Mike Dickson. He'll be here all week. Remember to tip your bartender and waitress.

On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Mike Dickson <mike.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:

On 27/05/2011 13:56, Rick Blechta wrote:

I am currently contemplating entering the priesthood

Better that than the other way around...