M4000 D
2010-11-22 by Charles

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2010-11-22 by Charles
2010-11-22 by John Wright
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 9:34 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 DHas anyone heard if Markus is shipping his new digital machine yet? Or heard any feedback about it? (I have seen all the Youtube footage)
2010-11-22 by Tom Doncourt
On Nov 22, 2010, at 8:25 AM, John Wright wrote:Not much news since NAMM. May be production problems?
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 9:34 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 DHas anyone heard if Markus is shipping his new digital machine yet? Or heard any feedback about it? (I have seen all the Youtube footage)
2010-11-22 by feline1973
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@...> wrote:
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> Has anyone heard if Markus is shipping his new digital machine yet? Or heard any feedback about it? (I have seen all the Youtube footage)
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2010-11-22 by Tony
----- Original Message -----From: feline1973Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 11:03 AMSubject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 DHe told me by email he was intending to ship in July,
but I couldn't afford one ...
I notice there's been no further update their webpage, but that means little going by the state of the rest of mellotron.com (Pinder CD Vol2, "aiming for a summer release" - er, is that summer 2007 or 2008, guys?)
There was a review of the Manniken tron 1U module in Sound on Sound last month which neglected any mention of the M4000D - since it was written by synth-pedant extrordinaire Gordon Reid, I did wonder why he omitted mention of it...
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@...> wrote:
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> Has anyone heard if Markus is shipping his new digital machine yet? Or heard any feedback about it? (I have seen all the Youtube footage)
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2010-11-22 by mettalliccasucks
2010-11-23 by feline1973
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Tony" <atm655@...> wrote:
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> Who cares?
> I'm a Streetly man, and that "thing" in Sweden is of no interest to me.
> Waiting for my M5000.
>
> Dr. Tony Moffett
> Tampa
> U.S.A.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: feline1973
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 11:03 AM
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
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> He told me by email he was intending to ship in July,
> but I couldn't afford one ...
> I notice there's been no further update their webpage, but that means little going by the state of the rest of mellotron.com (Pinder CD Vol2, "aiming for a summer release" - er, is that summer 2007 or 2008, guys?)
> There was a review of the Manniken tron 1U module in Sound on Sound last month which neglected any mention of the M4000D - since it was written by synth-pedant extrordinaire Gordon Reid, I did wonder why he omitted mention of it...
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@> wrote:
> >
> > Has anyone heard if Markus is shipping his new digital machine yet? Or heard any feedback about it? (I have seen all the Youtube footage)
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2010-11-23 by lsf5275@aol.com
The original question poster cared, hence his asking the question.
Now am I going to have to be extremely sarcastic to you? Cos you won't like it...
2010-11-23 by Tony
----- Original Message -----From: lsf5275@aol.comSent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:59 AMSubject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
Don't bother... It's just Tony being Tony. He's just being enthusiastic about his investment.It will be interesting when the end users start reporting in.FrankIn a message dated 11/23/2010 10:38:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, feline1@feline1.co.uk writes:The original question poster cared, hence his asking the question.
Now am I going to have to be extremely sarcastic to you? Cos you won't like it...
2010-11-23 by lsf5275@aol.com
Well you don't have to be a genius to figure out the difference.Bring it on feline.Dr. Anthony T. Moffett----- Original Message -----From: lsf5275@aol.comSent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:59 AMSubject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
Don't bother... It's just Tony being Tony. He's just being enthusiastic about his investment.It will be interesting when the end users start reporting in.FrankIn a message dated 11/23/2010 10:38:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, feline1@feline1.co.uk writes:The original question poster cared, hence his asking the question.
Now am I going to have to be extremely sarcastic to you? Cos you won't like it...
2010-11-23 by Tony
----- Original Message -----From: lsf5275@aol.comSent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 12:23 PMSubject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
Ohh, now it's DOCTOR Moffett . Run everyone.In a message dated 11/23/2010 11:19:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@verizon.net writes:
Well you don't have to be a genius to figure out the difference.Bring it on feline.Dr. Anthony T. Moffett----- Original Message -----From: lsf5275@aol.comSent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 10:59 AMSubject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
Don't bother... It's just Tony being Tony. He's just being enthusiastic about his investment.It will be interesting when the end users start reporting in.FrankIn a message dated 11/23/2010 10:38:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, feline1@feline1.co.uk writes:The original question poster cared, hence his asking the question.
Now am I going to have to be extremely sarcastic to you? Cos you won't like it...
2010-11-23 by lsf5275@aol.com
Yes it is, and has been.Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.Computer ScienceDr. Death
2010-11-23 by william Beith
Yes it is, and has been.Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.Computer ScienceDr. Death
2010-11-23 by Tony
----- Original Message -----From: lsf5275@aol.comSent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:46 PMSubject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@verizon.net writes:Yes it is, and has been.Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.Computer ScienceDr. Death
2010-11-23 by Tony
----- Original Message -----From: william BeithSent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:07 PMSubject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
How many Ph.D's does it take to change a light bulb?Only one.......but the bulb really has to want to change!
From: "lsf5275@aol.com" <lsf5275@aol.com>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, November 23, 2010 1:46:38 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@verizon.net writes:Yes it is, and has been.Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.Computer ScienceDr. Death
2010-11-23 by lsf5275@aol.com
How many Ph.D's does it take to change a light bulb?
2010-11-24 by Pomeroy RH Ranch
On 11/23/2010 11:46 AM, lsf5275@aol.com wrote:
Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@verizon.net writes:Yes it is, and has been.Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.Computer ScienceDr. Death
2010-11-24 by Chris Dale
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 6:11 AM, Tony <atm655@verizon.net> wrote:
I was married and divorced (by my choice) 3 times.12 years of university, 20 yrs in the field and finally got credit for the work.They were worth the wait too.TonyPS if you're still above ground, it's not too late Frank.Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:46 PMSubject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@verizon.net writes:Yes it is, and has been.Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.Computer ScienceDr. Death
2010-11-24 by Chris Dale
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:19 AM, <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:
I always though it was, "How many EST participants does it take..."In a message dated 11/23/2010 3:07:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, wbeith@sbcglobal.net writes:How many Ph.D's does it take to change a light bulb?
2010-11-24 by lsf5275@aol.com
I took EST too!
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:19 AM, <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:
I always though it was, "How many EST participants does it take..."In a message dated 11/23/2010 3:07:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, wbeith@sbcglobal.net writes:How many Ph.D's does it take to change a light bulb?
2010-11-24 by fdoddy@aol.com
Yes it is, and has been.Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.Computer ScienceDr. Death
2010-11-29 by Charles
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@... wrote:
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> shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
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> Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
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> Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
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> In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@... writes:
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> Yes it is, and has been.
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> Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
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> Computer Science
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> Dr. Death
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2010-11-29 by tronbros
On 29 Nov 2010, at 17:07, "Charles" <charel196@yahoo.com> wrote:
Just found this demo of the new machine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@... wrote:
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> shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.
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> fd
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
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> Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
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> Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
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> In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@... writes:
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> Yes it is, and has been.
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> Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
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> Computer Science
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> Dr. Death
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2010-11-30 by lsf5275@aol.com
The M4000D is the one of the finest treadmills available today . It has a fully commercial specification and the latest 3HP AC motor and controller unit. The large running deck and cushioning system ensures a comfy run whatever your size. The Colour LCD console has 18 Programs with HRC as well to design your own programs
Please note all commercial items plus vat
M4000D
2010-11-30 by tronbros
On 29 Nov 2010, at 23:45, tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> wrote:
Good to see the M4000D is a laser printer from Epson.Just found this demo of the new machine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@... wrote:
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> shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.
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> fd
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
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> Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
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> Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
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> In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@... writes:
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> Yes it is, and has been.
>
> Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
>
> Computer Science
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> Dr. Death
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2010-11-30 by Charles
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
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> Ok - time to say my bit. And this is me, not JB. We are mature individuals in theory but the Swede unit, despite all the protestations, has held onto the vaguely missleading M4000D logo. It's laughable really but I cannot escape being annoyed at the mindless mindset that trys to instigate consumer confusion by using a similar name yet riles at Memotron infringing almost everything including the fridge and underpants(leaving a witty personality unscathed). The truth is that NO ONE ELSE but he should be engaged in anything mellotronic. But that is never going to be the case because we are here for duration and no slight of hand or clumsy marketing device is going to alter our course.
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> Best,
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> M
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> mellotronics.co.uk
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> On 29 Nov 2010, at 23:45, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
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> > Good to see the M4000D is a laser printer from Epson.
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> > M
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> > mellotronics.co.uk
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> > On 29 Nov 2010, at 17:07, "Charles" <charel196@...> wrote:
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> >> Just found this demo of the new machine:
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> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0
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> >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@ wrote:
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> >> > shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.
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> >> > fd
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> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@>
> >> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
> >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
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> >> > Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
> >> >
> >> > Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
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> >> > In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@ writes:
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> >> > Yes it is, and has been.
> >> >
> >> > Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
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> >> > Computer Science
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> >> > Dr. Death
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2010-11-30 by Gary Brumm
Does anyone on this list seriously think that somebody who is investing that much money in a keyboard is going to be confused
as to which keyboard they are buying? I think it is just good marketing and I don’t think anyone will buy a M4000D in error when
they meant to buy a M4000……or visa versa……eh?
Cheers,
Gary
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tronbros
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 4:27 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
Ok - time to say my bit. And this is me, not JB. We are mature individuals in theory but the Swede unit, despite all the protestations, has held onto the vaguely missleading M4000D logo. It's laughable really but I cannot escape being annoyed at the mindless mindset that trys to instigate consumer confusion by using a similar name yet riles at Memotron infringing almost everything including the fridge and underpants(leaving a witty personality unscathed). The truth is that NO ONE ELSE but he should be engaged in anything mellotronic. But that is never going to be the case because we are here for duration and no slight of hand or clumsy marketing device is going to alter our course.
Best,
M
On 29 Nov 2010, at 23:45, tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> wrote:
Good to see the M4000D is a laser printer from Epson.
On 29 Nov 2010, at 17:07, "Charles" <charel196@yahoo.com> wrote:
Just found this demo of the new machine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@... wrote:
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> shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.
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> fd
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
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> Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
>
> Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
>
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> In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@... writes:
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> Yes it is, and has been.
>
> Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
>
> Computer Science
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> Dr. Death
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2010-11-30 by lsf5275@aol.com
uhhh can't we all just get along?
2010-11-30 by lsf5275@aol.com
2010-11-30 by lsf5275@aol.com
2010-11-30 by lsf5275@aol.com
Oops, I meant ThinkCentre M4000dIn a message dated 11/30/2010 12:36:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lsf5275@aol.com writes:
Apparently most of us can.In a message dated 11/29/2010 9:30:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, charel196@yahoo.com writes:uhhh can't we all just get along?
2010-11-30 by lsf5275@aol.com
Epson Aculaser M4000D Mono (A4) Laser Printer 64MB 1200dpi 43ppm 700 Sheets PS3,PCL6, PCL5e
Oops, I meant ThinkCentre M4000dIn a message dated 11/30/2010 12:36:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lsf5275@aol.com writes:
Apparently most of us can.In a message dated 11/29/2010 9:30:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, charel196@yahoo.com writes:uhhh can't we all just get along?
2010-11-30 by lsf5275@aol.com
In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:50:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lsf5275@aol.com writes:
Epson Aculaser M4000D Mono (A4) Laser Printer 64MB 1200dpi 43ppm 700 Sheets PS3,PCL6, PCL5e
Oops, I meant ThinkCentre M4000dIn a message dated 11/30/2010 12:36:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, lsf5275@aol.com writes:
Apparently most of us can.In a message dated 11/29/2010 9:30:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, charel196@yahoo.com writes:uhhh can't we all just get along?
2010-11-30 by Mark Pring
--- On Tue, 30/11/10, Charles <charel196@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Charles <charel196@yahoo.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010, 3:30 PMuhhh can't we all just get along?
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
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> Ok - time to say my bit. And this is me, not JB. We are mature individuals in theory but the Swede unit, despite all the protestations, has held onto the vaguely missleading M4000D logo. It's laughable really but I cannot escape being annoyed at the mindless mindset that trys to instigate consumer confusion by using a similar name yet riles at Memotron infringing almost everything including the fridge and underpants(leaving a witty personality unscathed). The truth is that NO ONE ELSE but he should be engaged in anything mellotronic. But that is never going to be the case because we are here for duration and no slight of hand or clumsy marketing device is going to alter our course.
>
> Best,
>
> M
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> mellotronics.co.uk
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> On 29 Nov 2010, at 23:45, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
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> > Good to see the M4000D is a laser printer from Epson.
> >
> > M
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> > mellotronics.co.uk
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> > On 29 Nov 2010, at 17:07, "Charles" <charel196@...> wrote:
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> >> Just found this demo of the new machine:
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> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0
> >>
> >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@ wrote:
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> >> > shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.
> >> >
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> >> > fd
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> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@>
> >> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
> >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
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> >> > Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
> >> >
> >> > Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@ writes:
> >> >
> >> > Yes it is, and has been.
> >> >
> >> > Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
> >> >
> >> > Computer Science
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> > Dr. Death
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2010-11-30 by lsf5275@aol.com
Can't we all just get along ? I think a quick look at world history or even the mellotron lists, would suggest the answer is no.
I can't think that anybody would confuse a mellotron with a rompler that has a strange keyboard.
Is anybody on the list thinking of buying an M4000D? I would be surprised.
I can understand why somebody would buy an M4000 but not the M4000D why not just by the mellotron CD? Is Marcus still selling the Mellotron CD? I wouldn't if it was my business.
Mark
--- On Tue, 30/11/10, Charles <charel196@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Charles <charel196@yahoo.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010, 3:30 PM
uhhh can't we all just get along?
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
>
> Ok - time to say my bit. And this is me, not JB. We are mature individuals in theory but the Swede unit, despite all the protestations, has held onto the vaguely missleading M4000D logo. It's laughable really but I cannot escape being annoyed at the mindless mindset that trys to instigate consumer confusion by using a similar name yet riles at Memotron infringing almost everything including the fridge and underpants(leaving a witty personality unscathed). The truth is that NO ONE ELSE but he should be engaged in anything mellotronic. But that is never going to be the case because we are here for duration and no slight of hand or clumsy marketing device is going to alter our course.
>
> Best,
>
> M
>
> mellotronics.co.uk
>
>
>
> On 29 Nov 2010, at 23:45, tronbros <tronbros@...> wrote:
>
> > Good to see the M4000D is a laser printer from Epson.
> >
> > M
> >
> > mellotronics.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
> > On 29 Nov 2010, at 17:07, "Charles" <charel196@...> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Just found this demo of the new machine:
> >>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0
> >>
> >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@ wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > fd
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@>
> >> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> >> > Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
> >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
> >> >
> >> > Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@ writes:
> >> >
> >> > Yes it is, and has been.
> >> >
> >> > Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
> >> >
> >> > Computer Science
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Dr. Death
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>
2010-11-30 by Charles
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
> Can't we all just get along ? I think a quick look at world history or even the mellotron lists, would suggest the answer is no.
>
> I can't think that anybody would confuse a mellotron with a rompler that has a strange keyboard.
>
> Is anybody on the list thinking of buying an M4000D? I would be surprised.
>
>  I can understand why somebody would buy an M4000 but not the M4000D why not just by the mellotron CD? Is Marcus still selling the Mellotron CD? I wouldn't if it was my business.
>
> Mark
>
> --- On Tue, 30/11/10, Charles <charel196@...> wrote:
>
> From: Charles <charel196@...>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010, 3:30 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> uhhh can't we all just get along?
>
>
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Ok - time to say my bit. And this is me, not JB. We are mature individuals in theory but the Swede unit, despite all the protestations, has held onto the vaguely missleading M4000D logo. It's laughable really but I cannot escape being annoyed at the mindless mindset that trys to instigate consumer confusion by using a similar name yet riles at Memotron infringing almost everything including the fridge and underpants(leaving a witty personality unscathed). The truth is that NO ONE ELSE but he should be engaged in anything mellotronic. But that is never going to be the case because we are here for duration and no slight of hand or clumsy marketing device is going to alter our course.
>
> >
>
> > Best,
>
> >
>
> > M
>
> >
>
> > mellotronics.co.uk
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On 29 Nov 2010, at 23:45, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > Good to see the M4000D is a laser printer from Epson.
>
> > >
>
> > > M
>
> > >
>
> > > mellotronics.co.uk
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > On 29 Nov 2010, at 17:07, "Charles" <charel196@> wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Just found this demo of the new machine:
>
> > >>
>
> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0
>
> > >>
>
> > >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@ wrote:
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > fd
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > >> > From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@>
>
> > >> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>
> > >> > Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
>
> > >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@ writes:
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Yes it is, and has been.
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Computer Science
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Dr. Death
>
> > >> >
>
> > >>
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
2010-11-30 by Charles
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, lsf5275@... wrote:
>
> I suppose if you are going to tour and you need that "look," and all those
> sounds, the Digital machine would make sense. 200 Mellotron and Chamberlin
> sounds in one box is attractive. I think that alone is the big attraction.
> But once you have all of those sounds, Markus has nothing left to sell you.
>
>
> In a message dated 11/30/2010 2:03:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> markpringnz@... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Can't we all just get along ? I think a quick look at world history or
> even the mellotron lists, would suggest the answer is no.
>
> I can't think that anybody would confuse a mellotron with a rompler that
> has a strange keyboard.
>
> Is anybody on the list thinking of buying an M4000D? I would be surprised.
>
> I can understand why somebody would buy an M4000 but not the M4000D why
> not just by the mellotron CD? Is Marcus still selling the Mellotron CD? I
> wouldn't if it was my business.
>
> Mark
>
> --- On Tue, 30/11/10, Charles <charel196@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Charles <charel196@...>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010, 3:30 PM
>
>
>
> uhhh can't we all just get along?
>
> --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
> (mip://06c2e6b0/mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> >
> > Ok - time to say my bit. And this is me, not JB. We are mature
> individuals in theory but the Swede unit, despite all the protestations, has held
> onto the vaguely missleading M4000D logo. It's laughable really but I cannot
> escape being annoyed at the mindless mindset that trys to instigate
> consumer confusion by using a similar name yet riles at Memotron infringing
> almost everything including the fridge and underpants(leaving a witty
> personality unscathed). The truth is that NO ONE ELSE but he should be engaged in
> anything mellotronic. But that is never going to be the case because we are
> here for duration and no slight of hand or clumsy marketing device is going
> to alter our course.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > M
> >
> > mellotronics.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
> > On 29 Nov 2010, at 23:45, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> >
> > > Good to see the M4000D is a laser printer from Epson.
> > >
> > > M
> > >
> > > mellotronics.co.uk
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 29 Nov 2010, at 17:07, "Charles" <charel196@> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Just found this demo of the new machine:
> > >>
> > >> _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0_
> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0)
> > >>
> > >> --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
> (mip://06c2e6b0/mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) , fdoddy@ wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > fd
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@>
> > >> > To: newmellotrongroup <_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_
> (mip://06c2e6b0/mc/compose?to=newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) >
> > >> > Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
> > >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters.
> Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I
> accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
> > >> >
> > >> > Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> atm655@ writes:
> > >> >
> > >> > Yes it is, and has been.
> > >> >
> > >> > Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
> > >> >
> > >> > Computer Science
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Dr. Death
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
2010-11-30 by feline1973
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@...> wrote:
>
> The CD sample rate is lower. (I have it on my Emu E4K and it sounds great) Why buy an M4000D? Why buy a Memotron? For immediate access in a live rig to a dedicated instrument doing a retro job. Why buy a digital Hammond? Digital piano? Convenience.
> I see the M4000D (and Memotron) as the next logical step of evolution of the Mellotron. Why is everyone so hung up on PLAYING BACK STRIPS OF TAPE? Yes it's cool..yes it was the starting point....but are people obsessing over the method and forgetting the reason for the sounds? The video demo of Markus' unit sounds great to me. I want one. I had an M400 for 25 years but have no desire to go back to that technology for moving around to live gigs. Loading tron banks into the E4K in a live show takes time (even if you have a bunch of sounds per bank)and the digital units provide immediate changes.
>
2010-11-30 by Tom Doncourt
On Nov 30, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Charles wrote:The CD sample rate is lower. (I have it on my Emu E4K and it sounds great) Why buy an M4000D? Why buy a Memotron? For immediate access in a live rig to a dedicated instrument doing a retro job. Why buy a digital Hammond? Digital piano? Convenience.
I see the M4000D (and Memotron) as the next logical step of evolution of the Mellotron. Why is everyone so hung up on PLAYING BACK STRIPS OF TAPE? Yes it's cool..yes it was the starting point....but are people obsessing over the method and forgetting the reason for the sounds? The video demo of Markus' unit sounds great to me. I want one. I had an M400 for 25 years but have no desire to go back to that technology for moving around to live gigs. Loading tron banks into the E4K in a live show takes time (even if you have a bunch of sounds per bank)and the digital units provide immediate changes.
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
> Can't we all just get along ? I think a quick look at world history or even the mellotron lists, would suggest the answer is no.
>
> I can't think that anybody would confuse a mellotron with a rompler that has a strange keyboard.
>
> Is anybody on the list thinking of buying an M4000D? I would be surprised.
>
>  I can understand why somebody would buy an M4000 but not the M4000D why not just by the mellotron CD? Is Marcus still selling the Mellotron CD? I wouldn't if it was my business.
>
> Mark
>
> --- On Tue, 30/11/10, Charles <charel196@...> wrote:
>
> From: Charles <charel196@...>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010, 3:30 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> uhhh can't we all just get along?
>
>
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Ok - time to say my bit. And this is me, not JB. We are mature individuals in theory but the Swede unit, despite all the protestations, has held onto the vaguely missleading M4000D logo. It's laughable really but I cannot escape being annoyed at the mindless mindset that trys to instigate consumer confusion by using a similar name yet riles at Memotron infringing almost everything including the fridge and underpants(leaving a witty personality unscathed). The truth is that NO ONE ELSE but he should be engaged in anything mellotronic. But that is never going to be the case because we are here for duration and no slight of hand or clumsy marketing device is going to alter our course.
>
> >
>
> > Best,
>
> >
>
> > M
>
> >
>
> > mellotronics.co.uk
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On 29 Nov 2010, at 23:45, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > Good to see the M4000D is a laser printer from Epson.
>
> > >
>
> > > M
>
> > >
>
> > > mellotronics.co.uk
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > On 29 Nov 2010, at 17:07, "Charles" <charel196@> wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Just found this demo of the new machine:
>
> > >>
>
> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0
>
> > >>
>
> > >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@ wrote:
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > fd
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > >> > From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@>
>
> > >> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>
> > >> > Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
>
> > >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@ writes:
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Yes it is, and has been.
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Computer Science
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Dr. Death
>
> > >> >
>
> > >>
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
2010-11-30 by David Jacques
I can see why Streetly is annoyed, and I don't really understand what advantage was gained by using that name. That being said...I think the M4000D is a very attractive machine- a wooden keyboard! I actually like the feel of a real mellotron and would be more comfortable playing something that approximated it and even resembled it . If I was going to do a small tour I would get one. I would certainly not use it in the studio though or consider it a replacement for a tape based unit. I doubt the m4000D will be a big seller , there are only a few eccentrics that would create a niche- I hope it doesn't pull Markus under.
On Nov 30, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Charles wrote:The CD sample rate is lower. (I have it on my Emu E4K and it sounds great) Why buy an M4000D? Why buy a Memotron? For immediate access in a live rig to a dedicated instrument doing a retro job. Why buy a digital Hammond? Digital piano? Convenience.
I see the M4000D (and Memotron) as the next logical step of evolution of the Mellotron. Why is everyone so hung up on PLAYING BACK STRIPS OF TAPE? Yes it's cool..yes it was the starting point....but are people obsessing over the method and forgetting the reason for the sounds? The video demo of Markus' unit sounds great to me. I want one. I had an M400 for 25 years but have no desire to go back to that technology for moving around to live gigs. Loading tron banks into the E4K in a live show takes time (even if you have a bunch of sounds per bank)and the digital units provide immediate changes.
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
> Can't we all just get along ? I think a quick look at world history or even the mellotron lists, would suggest the answer is no.
>
> I can't think that anybody would confuse a mellotron with a rompler that has a strange keyboard.
>
> Is anybody on the list thinking of buying an M4000D? I would be surprised.
>
>  I can understand why somebody would buy an M4000 but not the M4000D why not just by the mellotron CD? Is Marcus still selling the Mellotron CD? I wouldn't if it was my business.
>
> Mark
>
> --- On Tue, 30/11/10, Charles <charel196@...> wrote:
>
> From: Charles <charel196@...>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010, 3:30 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> uhhh can't we all just get along?
>
>
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Ok - time to say my bit. And this is me, not JB. We are mature individuals in theory but the Swede unit, despite all the protestations, has held onto the vaguely missleading M4000D logo. It's laughable really but I cannot escape being annoyed at the mindless mindset that trys to instigate consumer confusion by using a similar name yet riles at Memotron infringing almost everything including the fridge and underpants(leaving a witty personality unscathed). The truth is that NO ONE ELSE but he should be engaged in anything mellotronic. But that is never going to be the case because we are here for duration and no slight of hand or clumsy marketing device is going to alter our course.
>
> >
>
> > Best,
>
> >
>
> > M
>
> >
>
> > mellotronics.co.uk
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On 29 Nov 2010, at 23:45, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > Good to see the M4000D is a laser printer from Epson.
>
> > >
>
> > > M
>
> > >
>
> > > mellotronics.co.uk
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > On 29 Nov 2010, at 17:07, "Charles" <charel196@> wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > >>
>
> > >> Just found this demo of the new machine:
>
> > >>
>
> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0
>
> > >>
>
> > >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@ wrote:
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > fd
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > >> > From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@>
>
> > >> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>
> > >> > Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
>
> > >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@ writes:
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Yes it is, and has been.
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Computer Science
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> >
>
> > >> > Dr. Death
>
> > >> >
>
> > >>
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
2010-11-30 by John Wright
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:05 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
I suppose if you are going to tour and you need that "look," and all those sounds, the Digital machine would make sense. 200 Mellotron and Chamberlin sounds in one box is attractive. I think that alone is the big attraction. But once you have all of those sounds, Markus has nothing left to sell you.In a message dated 11/30/2010 2:03:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, markpringnz@yahoo.com writes:
2010-11-30 by lsf5275@aol.com
I agree that 200 sounds is nice, but I suspect when you gig, 5 or 6 sounds are used 95% of the time. As for what else Markus could sell, flight cases and gig bags are where the gross margin is.John#911
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:05 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
I suppose if you are going to tour and you need that "look," and all those sounds, the Digital machine would make sense. 200 Mellotron and Chamberlin sounds in one box is attractive. I think that alone is the big attraction. But once you have all of those sounds, Markus has nothing left to sell you.In a message dated 11/30/2010 2:03:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, markpringnz@yahoo.com writes:
2010-11-30 by Charles
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Tom Doncourt <tomdcour@...> wrote:
>
> I can see why Streetly is annoyed, and I don't really understand what advantage was gained by using that name. That being said...I think the M4000D is a very attractive machine- a wooden keyboard! I actually like the feel of a real mellotron and would be more comfortable playing something that approximated it and even resembled it . If I was going to do a small tour I would get one. I would certainly not use it in the studio though or consider it a replacement for a tape based unit. I doubt the m4000D will be a big seller , there are only a few eccentrics that would create a niche- I hope it doesn't pull Markus under.
> On Nov 30, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Charles wrote:
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> > The CD sample rate is lower. (I have it on my Emu E4K and it sounds great) Why buy an M4000D? Why buy a Memotron? For immediate access in a live rig to a dedicated instrument doing a retro job. Why buy a digital Hammond? Digital piano? Convenience.
> > I see the M4000D (and Memotron) as the next logical step of evolution of the Mellotron. Why is everyone so hung up on PLAYING BACK STRIPS OF TAPE? Yes it's cool..yes it was the starting point....but are people obsessing over the method and forgetting the reason for the sounds? The video demo of Markus' unit sounds great to me. I want one. I had an M400 for 25 years but have no desire to go back to that technology for moving around to live gigs. Loading tron banks into the E4K in a live show takes time (even if you have a bunch of sounds per bank)and the digital units provide immediate changes.
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Can't we all just get along ? I think a quick look at world history or even the mellotron lists, would suggest the answer is no.
> > >
> > > I can't think that anybody would confuse a mellotron with a rompler that has a strange keyboard.
> > >
> > > Is anybody on the list thinking of buying an M4000D? I would be surprised.
> > >
> > >  I can understand why somebody would buy an M4000 but not the M4000D why not just by the mellotron CD? Is Marcus still selling the Mellotron CD? I wouldn't if it was my business.
> > >
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 30/11/10, Charles <charel196@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Charles <charel196@>
> > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > Received: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010, 3:30 PM
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> > > uhhh can't we all just get along?
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> > >
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Ok - time to say my bit. And this is me, not JB. We are mature individuals in theory but the Swede unit, despite all the protestations, has held onto the vaguely missleading M4000D logo. It's laughable really but I cannot escape being annoyed at the mindless mindset that trys to instigate consumer confusion by using a similar name yet riles at Memotron infringing almost everything including the fridge and underpants(leaving a witty personality unscathed). The truth is that NO ONE ELSE but he should be engaged in anything mellotronic. But that is never going to be the case because we are here for duration and no slight of hand or clumsy marketing device is going to alter our course.
> > >
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> > > > Best,
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> > > > M
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> > > > mellotronics.co.uk
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> > > > On 29 Nov 2010, at 23:45, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
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> > > > > Good to see the M4000D is a laser printer from Epson.
> > >
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> > > > > mellotronics.co.uk
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> > > > > On 29 Nov 2010, at 17:07, "Charles" <charel196@> wrote:
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> > > > >> Just found this demo of the new machine:
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> > > > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhKea6vNx0
> > >
> > > > >>
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> > > > >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@ wrote:
> > >
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> > > > >> > shit! I never made it out of 3rd year at college.
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> > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > > >> > From: lsf5275 <lsf5275@>
> > >
> > > > >> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
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> > > > >> > Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
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> > > > >> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
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> > > > >> > Look who's the smarty Artie. I didn't get farther than a masters. Ran out of money. I wanted the Ph.D but since I had to pay my way I accidentally got a job that paid a lot of money and ended up married and with a kid.
> > >
> > > > >> >
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> > > > >> > Now the kid is grown and I'm out of work. Hmmm.
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> > > > >> > In a message dated 11/23/2010 2:10:13 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, atm655@ writes:
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> > > > >> > Yes it is, and has been.
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> > > > >> > Summa Cum Laude, B.S., M.S. and Ph.D.
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2010-11-30 by tronbros@aol.com
BTW- I love the look & sound of Streetly's unit and have nothing against it at all, but I would never have one and move it around to live gigs.
2010-11-30 by Charles
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros@... wrote:
>
> Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in
> tow at every gig. That's dedication.......and he loves it.
>
> M
>
> Streetly Electronics - All Things Mellotronic
> www.mellotronics.co.uk
> NEW for iPad!
> MELLOTRONICS M3000HD
> US Sales East: Jimmy Moore (http://JMoore6397@.../)
> US Sales West: Paul Cox (http://pjc56@.../)
> myspace.com/chloesmithmusic
>
>
> In a message dated 30/11/2010 14:09:08 GMT Standard Time,
> charel196@... writes:
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> BTW- I love the look & sound of Streetly's unit and have nothing against
> it at all, but I would never have one and move it around to live gigs.
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2010-11-30 by tronbros
On 30 Nov 2010, at 18:14, "Charles" <charel196@yahoo.com> wrote:
> No offense meant at all,Martin
2010-11-30 by lsf5275@aol.com
Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in tow at every gig. That's dedication.......and he loves it.
2010-11-30 by Mark Pring
--- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com> wrote:
From: lsf5275@aol.com <lsf5275@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM
I would have no hesitation in taking mine to any live gig except that I refuse to let it get scratched and dented. If others wish to play or record it, they come to me.In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tronbros@aol.com writes:Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in tow at every gig. That's dedication.......and he loves it.
2010-11-30 by Charles
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
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> Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?
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> --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@... <lsf5275@...> wrote:
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> From: lsf5275@... <lsf5275@...>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM
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> In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> tronbros@... writes:
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> Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in
> tow at every gig. That's dedication.......and he loves
> it.
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2010-11-30 by Mark Pring
--- On Wed, 1/12/10, Charles <charel196@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Charles <charel196@yahoo.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 10:56 AM$1995 USD..extra for custom finishes (wood)
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
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> Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?
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> --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@... <lsf5275@...> wrote:
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> From: lsf5275@... <lsf5275@...>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM
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> In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> tronbros@... writes:
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> Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in
> tow at every gig. That's dedication.......and he loves
> it.
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2010-11-30 by Charles
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
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> Thanks Charles. I had just started to wonder about one, but that is too much for me, I'll keep up my internecine battles with #1565 for now.
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> Mark
> --- On Wed, 1/12/10, Charles <charel196@...> wrote:
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> From: Charles <charel196@...>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 10:56 AM
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> > --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@ <lsf5275@> wrote:
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2010-11-30 by lsf5275@aol.com
That's the price listed on Big City Music site...Markus had told me 1800 dollars before so maybe the price went up or is more thru the distributor?
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
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> Thanks Charles. I had just started to wonder about one, but that is too much for me, I'll keep up my internecine battles with #1565 for now.
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> Mark
> --- On Wed, 1/12/10, Charles <charel196@...> wrote:
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> From: Charles <charel196@...>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 10:56 AM
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2010-12-01 by Gary Brumm
>>“I doubt the m4000D will be a big seller , there are only a few eccentrics that would create a niche- I hope it doesn't pull Markus under.”
Tom,
Marcus will probably sell more of the “Ds” than the tape units. At under $2k there will probably be a bigger market than the small “niche”
market of the tape based Mellotrons. I would be more worried about the tape units pulling him under. As to the “few eccentrics” they are all here
on this list !! ….uh that’s a complement guys J !!
Cheers All!! J
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Doncourt
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:31 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
I can see why Streetly is annoyed, and I don't really understand what advantage was gained by using that name. That being said...I think the M4000D is a very attractive machine- a wooden keyboard! I actually like the feel of a real mellotron and would be more comfortable playing something that approximated it and even resembled it . If I was going to do a small tour I would get one. I would certainly not use it in the studio though or consider it a replacement for a tape based unit. I doubt the m4000D will be a big seller , there are only a few eccentrics that would create a niche- I hope it doesn't pull Markus under.
On Nov 30, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Charles wrote:
The CD sample rate is lower. (I have it on my Emu E4K and it sounds great) Why buy an M4000D? Why buy a Memotron? For immediate access in a live rig to a dedicated instrument doing a retro job. Why buy a digital Hammond? Digital piano? Convenience.
I see the M4000D (and Memotron) as the next logical step of evolution of the Mellotron. Why is everyone so hung up on PLAYING BACK STRIPS OF TAPE? Yes it's cool..yes it was the starting point....but are people obsessing over the method and forgetting the reason for the sounds? The video demo of Markus' unit sounds great to me. I want one. I had an M400 for 25 years but have no desire to go back to that technology for moving around to live gigs. Loading tron banks into the E4K in a live show takes time (even if you have a bunch of sounds per bank)and the digital units provide immediate changes.
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
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> Can't we all just get along ? I think a quick look at world history or even the mellotron lists, would suggest the answer is no.
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> I can't think that anybody would confuse a mellotron with a rompler that has a strange keyboard.
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> Is anybody on the list thinking of buying an M4000D? I would be surprised.
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>  I can understand why somebody would buy an M4000 but not the M4000D why not just by the mellotron CD? Is Marcus still selling the Mellotron CD? I wouldn't if it was my business.
>
> Mark
>
> --- On Tue, 30/11/10, Charles <charel196@...> wrote:
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> From: Charles <charel196@...>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010, 3:30 PM
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> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros <tronbros@> wrote:
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> > Ok - time to say my bit. And this is me, not JB. We are mature individuals in theory but the Swede unit, despite all the protestations, has held onto the vaguely missleading M4000D logo. It's laughable really but I cannot escape being annoyed at the mindless mindset that trys to instigate consumer confusion by using a similar name yet riles at Memotron infringing almost everything including the fridge and underpants(leaving a witty personality unscathed). The truth is that NO ONE ELSE but he should be engaged in anything mellotronic. But that is never going to be the case because we are here for duration and no slight of hand or clumsy marketing device is going to alter our course.
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> > >> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, fdoddy@ wrote:
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> > >> > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
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> > >> > Sent: Tue, Nov 23, 2010 2:47 pm
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2010-12-01 by David Jacques
>>“I doubt the m4000D will be a big seller , there are only a few eccentrics that would create a niche- I hope it doesn't pull Markus under.”
Tom,
Marcus will probably sell more of the “Ds” than the tape units. At under $2k there will probably be a bigger market than the small “niche”
market of the tape based Mellotrons. I would be more worried about the tape units pulling him under. As to the “few eccentrics” they are all here
on this list !! ….uh that’s a complement guys J !!
Cheers All!! J
2010-12-01 by Gary Brumm
Hi David! …..I’ve been called both…probably rightly so…. J
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Jacques
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:50 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
"Eccentrics"? My wife has a not so flattering term for us....
she calls us "Freaks"...
she may be right...
On Nov 30, 2010, at 5:43 PM, Gary Brumm wrote:
>>“I doubt the m4000D will be a big seller , there are only a few eccentrics that would create a niche- I hope it doesn't pull Markus under.”
Tom,
Marcus will probably sell more of the “Ds” than the tape units. At under $2k there will probably be a bigger market than the small “niche”
market of the tape based Mellotrons. I would be more worried about the tape units pulling him under. As to the “few eccentrics” they are all here
on this list !! ….uh that’s a complement guys J !!
Cheers All!! J
2010-12-01 by feline1973
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, tronbros@... wrote:
>
> Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in
> tow at every gig. That's dedication.......and he loves it.
>
> M
>
> Streetly Electronics - All Things Mellotronic
> www.mellotronics.co.uk
> NEW for iPad!
> MELLOTRONICS M3000HD
> US Sales East: Jimmy Moore (http://JMoore6397@.../)
> US Sales West: Paul Cox (http://pjc56@.../)
> myspace.com/chloesmithmusic
>
2010-12-01 by Tony
----- Original Message -----From: Gary BrummSent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:00 PMSubject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
Hi David! ..Ive been called both probably rightly so . J
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Jacques
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:50 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
"Eccentrics"? My wife has a not so flattering term for us....
she calls us "Freaks"...
she may be right...
On Nov 30, 2010, at 5:43 PM, Gary Brumm wrote:
>>I doubt the m4000D will be a big seller , there are only a few eccentrics that would create a niche- I hope it doesn't pull Markus under.
Tom,
Marcus will probably sell more of the Ds than the tape units. At under $2k there will probably be a bigger market than the small niche
market of the tape based Mellotrons. I would be more worried about the tape units pulling him under. As to the few eccentrics they are all here
on this list !! .uh thats a complement guys J !!
Cheers All!! J
2010-12-01 by Mark Wallis
----- Original Message -----From: Gary BrummSent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:00 PMSubject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 DHi David! …..I’ve been called both…probably rightly so…. J
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Jacques
Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 6:50 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
"Eccentrics"? My wife has a not so flattering term for us....
she calls us "Freaks"...
she may be right...
On Nov 30, 2010, at 5:43 PM, Gary Brumm wrote:
>>“I doubt the m4000D will be a big seller , there are only a few eccentrics that would create a niche- I hope it doesn't pull Markus under.”
Tom,
Marcus will probably sell more of the “Ds” than the tape units. At under $2k there will probably be a bigger market than the small “niche”
market of the tape based Mellotrons. I would be more worried about the tape units pulling him under. As to the “few eccentrics” they are all here
on this list !! ….uh that’s a complement guys J !!
Cheers All!! J
2010-12-01 by Charles
2010-12-01 by John Wright
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:05 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 DI got to wondering about any potential "tech issues" which might develop down the road with the digital unit. Since these are small run, hand made instruments and the only support is in Sweden, what happens in case of malfunctions...or what exactly COULD go wrong with these and how easily are they fixed by local repair places? What's the breakdown rate on Memotrons? (has anyone heard?) It's not like tape replay where you can change a single broken tape or blown capacitor. I magine the whole thing is on a motherboard but what issues could potentially develop? How long will the ROM last? etc. etc. If I got one it's not like I would want to ship it back and forth from Ohio to Sweden for repairs. I assume all parts are easily replaced locally (except the sounds).
2010-12-01 by Bruce Daily
--- On Wed, 12/1/10, Charles <charel196@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Charles <charel196@yahoo.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 8:07 AM
I got to wondering about any potential "tech issues" which might develop down the road with the digital unit. Since these are small run, hand made instruments and the only support is in Sweden, what happens in case of malfunctions...or what exactly COULD go wrong with these and how easily are they fixed by local repair places? What's the breakdown rate on Memotrons? (has anyone heard?) It's not like tape replay where you can change a single broken tape or blown capacitor. I imagine the whole thing is on a motherboard but what issues could potentially develop? How long will the ROM last? etc. etc. If I got one it's not
like I would want to ship it back and forth from Ohio to Sweden for repairs. I assume all parts are easily replaced locally (except the sounds).
2010-12-01 by Tom Doncourt
On Dec 1, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Bruce Daily wrote:Hi all-Yeah, I wonder who developed the circuits for the M4000-D? I can't picture Markus engineering it entirely in-house. Could it be a re-packaged trimmed-down Nord Wave?-Bruce D.
From: Charles <charel196@yahoo.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2010, 8:07 AM
I got to wondering about any potential "tech issues" which might develop down the road with the digital unit. Since these are small run, hand made instruments and the only support is in Sweden, what happens in case of malfunctions...or what exactly COULD go wrong with these and how easily are they fixed by local repair places? What's the breakdown rate on Memotrons? (has anyone heard?) It's not like tape replay where you can change a single broken tape or blown capacitor. I imagine the whole thing is on a motherboard but what issues could potentially develop? How long will the ROM last? etc. etc. If I got one it's not
like I would want to ship it back and forth from Ohio to Sweden for repairs. I assume all parts are easily replaced locally (except the sounds).
2010-12-01 by Gary Brumm
I really don’t think you want to compare breakdowns and local repair availability to the tape machines. Most digital
keyboards are extremely reliable and unless Marcus is using custom LSI chips the unit could probably be repaired by
any good tech especially if Marcus makes service documentation available. This is one of the main reasons almost every
“Mellotron” band has gone digital long ago….even the big ones where cost is not a factor. Of course time will tell as to
the reliability of the 4000D…….
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 7:05 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
I got to wondering about any potential "tech issues" which might develop down the road with the digital unit. Since these are small run, hand made instruments and the only support is in Sweden, what happens in case of malfunctions...or what exactly COULD go wrong with these and how easily are they fixed by local repair places? What's the breakdown rate on Memotrons? (has anyone heard?) It's not like tape replay where you can change a single broken tape or blown capacitor. I magine the whole thing is on a motherboard but what issues could potentially develop? How long will the ROM last? etc. etc. If I got one it's not like I would want to ship it back and forth from Ohio to Sweden for repairs. I assume all parts are easily replaced locally (except the sounds).
2010-12-02 by lsf5275@aol.com
I can't picture Markus engineering it entirely in-house. Could it be a re-packaged trimmed-down Nord Wave?
2010-12-02 by Daniel
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@...> wrote:
>
> $1995 USD..extra for custom finishes (wood)
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
> >
> > Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?
> >
> > --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@ <lsf5275@> wrote:
> >
> > From: lsf5275@ <lsf5275@>
> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I would have no hesitation in taking mine to any live gig except that I
> > refuse to let it get scratched and dented. If others wish to play or record it,
> > they come to me.
> > Â
> >
> > In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > tronbros@ writes:
> >
> > Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in
> > tow at every gig. That's dedication.......and he loves
> > it.
> >
>
2010-12-02 by Mark Pring
--- On Fri, 3/12/10, Daniel <dan_miso@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Daniel <dan_miso@yahoo.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Friday, 3 December, 2010, 9:11 AMThere is also a rackmount for $1000 USD.
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@...> wrote:
>
> $1995 USD..extra for custom finishes (wood)
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
> >
> > Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?
> >
> > --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@ <lsf5275@> wrote:
> >
> > From: lsf5275@ <lsf5275@>
> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I would have no hesitation in taking mine to any live gig except that I
> > refuse to let it get scratched and dented. If others wish to play or record it,
> > they come to me.
> > Â
> >
> > In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > tronbros@ writes:
> >
> > Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in
> > tow at every gig. That's dedication.......and he loves
> > it.
> >
>
2010-12-03 by Gary Brumm
Charles,
Where did you find the info on the rackmount? I searched but didn’t see it.
Thanks,
Gary
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 12:11 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
There is also a rackmount for $1000 USD.
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "Charles" <charel196@...> wrote:
>
> $1995 USD..extra for custom finishes (wood)
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
> >
> > Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?
> >
> > --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@ <lsf5275@> wrote:
> >
> > From: lsf5275@ <lsf5275@>
> > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I would have no hesitation in taking mine to any live gig except that I
> > refuse to let it get scratched and dented. If others wish to play or record it,
> > they come to me.
> > Â
> >
> > In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > tronbros@ writes:
> >
> > Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in
> > tow at every gig. That's dedication.......and he loves
> > it.
> >
>
2010-12-03 by Daniel
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@...> wrote:
>
> Charles,
>
> Where did you find the info on the rackmount? I searched but didn't see it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary
>
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 12:11 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
> There is also a rackmount for $1000 USD.
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Charles" <charel196@<mailto:charel196@>> wrote:
> >
> > $1995 USD..extra for custom finishes (wood)
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@ <lsf5275@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: lsf5275@ <lsf5275@>
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I would have no hesitation in taking mine to any live gig except that I
> > > refuse to let it get scratched and dented. If others wish to play or record it,
> > > they come to me.
> > > Â
> > >
> > > In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > tronbros@ writes:
> > >
> > > Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in
> > > tow at every gig. That's dedication.......and he loves
> > > it.
> > >
> >
>
2010-12-03 by Gary Brumm
I saw that but no details or price…….
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 11:06 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D rackmount
It is right on the Mellotron home page...
*We are also working on a rack version of the digital Mellotron, scheduled release winter 2010.*
Best, Dan
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@...> wrote:
>
> Charles,
>
> Where did you find the info on the rackmount? I searched but didn't see it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary
>
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 12:11 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
> There is also a rackmount for $1000 USD.
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Charles" <charel196@<mailto:charel196@>> wrote:
> >
> > $1995 USD..extra for custom finishes (wood)
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@ <lsf5275@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: lsf5275@ <lsf5275@>
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I would have no hesitation in taking mine to any live gig except that I
> > > refuse to let it get scratched and dented. If others wish to play or record it,
> > > they come to me.
> > > Â
> > >
> > > In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > tronbros@ writes:
> > >
> > > Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in
> > > tow at every gig. That's dedication.......and he loves
> > > it.
> > >
> >
>
2010-12-03 by Daniel
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@...> wrote:
>
> I saw that but no details or price.......
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2010 11:06 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D rackmount
>
>
>
> It is right on the Mellotron home page...
>
> *We are also working on a rack version of the digital Mellotron, scheduled release winter 2010.*
>
> Best, Dan
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Gary Brumm <gabru@<mailto:gabru@>> wrote:
> >
> > Charles,
> >
> > Where did you find the info on the rackmount? I searched but didn't see it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Daniel
> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 12:11 PM
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> >
> >
> >
> > There is also a rackmount for $1000 USD.
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Charles" <charel196@<mailto:charel196@>> wrote:
> > >
> > > $1995 USD..extra for custom finishes (wood)
> > >
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@ <lsf5275@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: lsf5275@ <lsf5275@>
> > > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Â
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I would have no hesitation in taking mine to any live gig except that I
> > > > refuse to let it get scratched and dented. If others wish to play or record it,
> > > > they come to me.
> > > > Â
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > tronbros@ writes:
> > > >
> > > > Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in
> > > > tow at every gig. That's dedication.......and he loves
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
2010-12-03 by Mark Pring
--- On Sat, 4/12/10, Daniel <dan_miso@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Daniel <dan_miso@yahoo.com>
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D rackmount
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Received: Saturday, 4 December, 2010, 8:06 AMIt is right on the Mellotron home page...
*We are also working on a rack version of the digital Mellotron, scheduled release winter 2010.*
Best, Dan
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@...> wrote:
>
> Charles,
>
> Where did you find the info on the rackmount? I searched but didn't see it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gary
>
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 12:11 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
> There is also a rackmount for $1000 USD.
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Charles" <charel196@<mailto:charel196@>> wrote:
> >
> > $1995 USD..extra for custom finishes (wood)
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 1/12/10, lsf5275@ <lsf5275@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: lsf5275@ <lsf5275@>
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Received: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 9:58 AM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I would have no hesitation in taking mine to any live gig except that I
> > > refuse to let it get scratched and dented. If others wish to play or record it,
> > > they come to me.
> > > Â
> > >
> > > In a message dated 11/30/2010 12:17:42 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > > tronbros@ writes:
> > >
> > > Jonsi of Sigur Ros has just done over 90 gigs worldwide with his M4000 in
> > > tow at every gig. That's dedication.......and he loves
> > > it.
> > >
> >
>
2010-12-03 by markpringnz
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pring <markpringnz@...> wrote:
>
> And after that they did this:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISdFAIUM12M
>
> --- On Sat, 4/12/10, Daniel <dan_miso@...> wrote:
>
> From: Daniel <dan_miso@...>
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D rackmount
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Saturday, 4 December, 2010, 8:06 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It is right on the Mellotron home page...
>
>
>
> *We are also working on a rack version of the digital Mellotron, scheduled release winter 2010.*
>
>
>
> Best, Dan
>
>
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Charles,
>
> >
>
> > Where did you find the info on the rackmount? I searched but didn't see it.
>
> >
>
> > Thanks,
>
> >
>
> > Gary
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Daniel
>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2010 12:11 PM
>
> > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > There is also a rackmount for $1000 USD.
>
> >
>
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, "Charles" <charel196@<mailto:charel196@>> wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > $1995 USD..extra for custom finishes (wood)
>
> > >
>
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Mark Pring <markpringnz@> wrote:
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Anybody know how much the M4000D costs?
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2011-09-01 by Andy kinch
2011-09-01 by Mark Wallis
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2011-09-01 by fdoddy@aol.com
I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the difference between the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the list has been tempted?
Mark
2011-09-01 by tron400
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2011-09-01 by Gary Brumm
In a live or studio mix you would never hear the difference especially after the reverb and
other processing that is commonly used on Mellotron tracks. It will almost certainly out
sell the tape machines but most on this list will hate it no matter what it sounds like.
Fire away…. J
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mellotronmadness
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:56 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the difference between the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the list has been tempted?
Mark
2011-09-01 by john barrick
--john barrick*Leo got it right the first time**then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
2011-09-01 by Andy kinch
2011-09-01 by lsf5275@aol.com
In a live or studio mix you would never hear the difference especially after the reverb and
other processing that is commonly used on Mellotron tracks. It will almost certainly out
sell the tape machines but most on this list will hate it no matter what it sounds like.
Fire away…. J
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mellotronmadness
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:56 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the difference between the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the list has been tempted?
2011-09-01 by lsf5275@aol.com
OK. But how does it really sound?Well, if we are comparing a well engineered and adjusted M400 (which I'm lucky enough to own thanks to John and Martin) with Markus' digital equivalent, guess what? the tape based machine wins, no question in my book. The overall sound of the 400 has far more "grunt" than its digital cousin.BUT. I love my m400 so much I don't want to have to move it... ever! (that is until I eventually move house, whenever that will be). Even if I wanted to move it now, I can't ,due to where it is and the fact I would be trying to shift it on my own, with my dodgy back and all!The fact is, and it's no use denying it. Markus has done a terrific job of building his creation. The attention to detail and sheer quality of the workmanship is of a very high standard.OK, so people say why not just use computer software to create the sound? After all that's surely what the instrument is anyway. True, but I think our love affair with the tron has always be more than just the "sound". Like me, I bet most of us here would go down to the front of the stage at concerts just to see what this curious white box was. I have to say I'm blown away with the look of the Digital Mellotron (or whatever label you want to give it).Also, it gives me instant access to 100 Mellotron M1/Mk2/300/400/Chamberlain sounds. Any 2 can be stored together and mixed accordingly. I can have one sound either side of the stereo mix. I can move the attack of the start of the sound backwards and forwards in relation to the "virtual" head. I can control how fast the "tape" returns, so if you take your finger off while holding a chord, if you put it straight back on again the note starts midway along the "tape" instead of going back to the beginning. And of course the samples are full bandwidth 24 bit uncompressed, unlike the Memotron which was very compressed to these ears. No looping by the way!I was lucky enough to sell my Memotron just in time to transfer what I received for that accross to Markus who wanted payment in full straight away. Thankfully, he honoured the original price, rather than coming back to me for more cash as the price has gone up recently. Needless to say I've had to wait a very long time for him to develop the 100 sounds, which IMO was well worth the wait.In an ideal world, I would have had the space and the cash to buy an M4000 from John and Martin, but I would still have had the transportation problem.The only issues I have with Markus, are mainly concerned with the name. Even when I ordered it and discussed the order with him, I always referred to it as a Digital Mellotron, even here I refuse to call it an M4000D or whatever it's called.I struggled long and hard over whether the decision to buy it was the right one, just in case I upset anyone on this list. But I'm pleased I bought it. It fulfils a specific requirement I have.What I have for the (at the time) reasonable price I paid was very good value, and if anyone has a problem with that, they should get over it!I still love my 400 to bits. I just want to keep it that way.Thanks for listening.Andy K
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 17:13
Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
In a live or studio mix you would never hear the difference especially after the reverb andother processing that is commonly used on Mellotron tracks. It will almost certainly outsell the tape machines but most on this list will hate it no matter what it sounds like.Fire away…. JFrom: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mellotronmadness
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:56 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 DI hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the difference between the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the list has been tempted?
2011-09-01 by Hessel Herder
I won't. It's the best of the lot. I'd love to have one just to have. It's not a Mellotron, but it has cool sounds in it, and lots of them. It has Mellotron sounds and Chamberlin sounds. It had friendly software and it does cool stuff. It isn't a Mellotron but it does as good an imitation of one as you're likely to find anywhere.If you have both you're all the better for it. I was thinking of buying one and sometime soon I might. I am fortunate because I have a real M4000 Mellotron and I love playing it and having others play and record it. I also have acquired a real Chamberlin M1.FrankIn a message dated 9/1/2011 12:13:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gabru@comsec.net writes:
In a live or studio mix you would never hear the difference especially after the reverb and
other processing that is commonly used on Mellotron tracks. It will almost certainly out
sell the tape machines but most on this list will hate it no matter what it sounds like.
Fire away…. J
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mellotronmadness
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:56 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the difference between the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the list has been tempted?
2011-09-01 by lsf5275@aol.com
Can you tell more about the M1 Frank?Is it the ebay one demonstrated by that lady withthe hairy arms?I won't. It's the best of the lot. I'd love to have one just to have. It's not a Mellotron, but it has cool sounds in it, and lots of them. It has Mellotron sounds and Chamberlin sounds. It had friendly software and it does cool stuff. It isn't a Mellotron but it does as good an imitation of one as you're likely to find anywhere.If you have both you're all the better for it. I was thinking of buying one and sometime soon I might. I am fortunate because I have a real M4000 Mellotron and I love playing it and having others play and record it. I also have acquired a real Chamberlin M1.FrankIn a message dated 9/1/2011 12:13:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gabru@comsec.net writes:In a live or studio mix you would never hear the difference especially after the reverb and
other processing that is commonly used on Mellotron tracks. It will almost certainly out
sell the tape machines but most on this list will hate it no matter what it sounds like.
Fire away…. J
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mellotronmadness
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 8:56 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the difference between the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the list has been tempted?
2011-09-01 by mellotronmadness
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
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> Well, if we are comparing a well engineered and adjusted M400 (which I'm lucky enough to own thanks to John and Martin) with Markus' digital equivalent, guess what? the tape based machine wins, no question in my book. The overall sound of the 400 has far more "grunt" than its digital cousin.
> BUT. I love my m400 so much I don't want to have to move it... ever! (that is until I eventually move house, whenever that will be). Even if I wanted to move it now, I can't ,due to where it is and the fact I would be trying to shift it on my own, with my dodgy back and all!
> The fact is, and it's no use denying it. Markus has done a terrific job of building his creation. The attention to detail and sheer quality of the workmanship is of a very high standard.
> OK, so people say why not just use computer software to create the sound? After all that's surely what the instrument is anyway. True, but I think our love affair with the tron has always be more than just the "sound". Like me, I bet most of us here would go down to the front of the stage at concerts just to see what this curious white box was. I have to say I'm blown away with the look of the Digital Mellotron (or whatever label you want to give it).
> Also, it gives me instant access to 100 Mellotron M1/Mk2/300/400/Chamberlain sounds. Any 2 can be stored together and mixed accordingly. I can have one sound either side of the stereo mix. I can move the attack of the start of the sound backwards and forwards in relation to the "virtual" head. I can control how fast the "tape" returns, so if you take your finger off while holding a chord, if you put it straight back on again the note starts midway along the "tape" instead of going back to the beginning. And of course the samples are full bandwidth 24 bit uncompressed, unlike the Memotron which was very compressed to these ears. No looping by the way!
> I was lucky enough to sell my Memotron just in time to transfer what I received for that accross to Markus who wanted payment in full straight away. Thankfully, he honoured the original price, rather than coming back to me for more cash as the price has gone up recently. Needless to say I've had to wait a very long time for him to develop the 100 sounds, which IMO was well worth the wait.
> In an ideal world, I would have had the space and the cash to buy an M4000 from John and Martin, but I would still have had the transportation problem.
> The only issues I have with Markus, are mainly concerned with the name. Even when I ordered it and discussed the order with him, I always referred to it as a Digital Mellotron, even here I refuse to call it an M4000D or whatever it's called.
> I struggled long and hard over whether the decision to buy it was the right one, just in case I upset anyone on this list. But I'm pleased I bought it. It fulfils a specific requirement I have.
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2011-09-01 by fdoddy@aol.com
2011-09-01 by Gary Brumm
The last time I recorded with a Mellotron (70’s) it sounded fine. Back then they were borrowed or rented since
(to address your jab J) I don’t own one. Now that may not allow me to have an opinion on this group but
I have recorded groups with Mellotron and samples and I spent copious amounts of time listening to Genesis,
King Crimson, etc. recorded and live…..and I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night! (US commercial for those abroad).
Seriously , I have run them through guitar amps, reverb, and whatever to get the sound I wanted like the albums
I listened to. Sorry if my ears aren’t as Mellotron astute as some here but I wasn’t trying to put down the tape machines
in any way….I think you know that…..actually I was expecting that response from Frank! J
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john barrick
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:00 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
How does yours sound, Gary?
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
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*Leo got it right the first time*
*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
2011-09-01 by lsf5275@aol.com
The last time I recorded with a Mellotron (70’s) it sounded fine. Back then they were borrowed or rented since
(to address your jab J) I don’t own one. Now that may not allow me to have an opinion on this group but
I have recorded groups with Mellotron and samples and I spent copious amounts of time listening to Genesis,
King Crimson, etc. recorded and live…..and I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night! (US commercial for those abroad).
Seriously , I have run them through guitar amps, reverb, and whatever to get the sound I wanted like the albums
I listened to. Sorry if my ears aren’t as Mellotron astute as some here but I wasn’t trying to put down the tape machines
in any way….I think you know that…..actually I was expecting that response from Frank! J
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john barrick
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:00 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
How does yours sound, Gary?
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
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*Leo got it right the first time*
*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
2011-09-01 by Gary Brumm
Just messing with you Frank….you made that comment about “how’s your Mellotron doing” before….
…..it’s ok I had it coming J
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From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 3:57 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
Why from me? I love the real ones, but I'd take a fake one too.
Frank
In a message dated 9/1/2011 6:41:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gabru@comsec.net writes:
The last time I recorded with a Mellotron (70’s) it sounded fine. Back then they were borrowed or rented since
(to address your jab J) I don’t own one. Now that may not allow me to have an opinion on this group but
I have recorded groups with Mellotron and samples and I spent copious amounts of time listening to Genesis,
King Crimson, etc. recorded and live…..and I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night! (US commercial for those abroad).
Seriously , I have run them through guitar amps, reverb, and whatever to get the sound I wanted like the albums
I listened to. Sorry if my ears aren’t as Mellotron astute as some here but I wasn’t trying to put down the tape machines
in any way….I think you know that…..actually I was expecting that response from Frank! J
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john barrick
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:00 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
How does yours sound, Gary?
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
In a live or studio mix you would never hear the difference especially after the reverb and
other processing that is commonly used on Mellotron tracks. It will almost certainly out
sell the tape machines but most on this list will hate it no matter what it sounds like.
Fire away…. J
john barrick
*Leo got it right the first time*
*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
2011-09-02 by lsf5275@aol.com
Just messing with you Frank….you made that comment about “how’s your Mellotron doing” before….
…..it’s ok I had it coming J
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From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 3:57 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
Why from me? I love the real ones, but I'd take a fake one too.
Frank
In a message dated 9/1/2011 6:41:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gabru@comsec.net writes:
The last time I recorded with a Mellotron (70’s) it sounded fine. Back then they were borrowed or rented since
(to address your jab J) I don’t own one. Now that may not allow me to have an opinion on this group but
I have recorded groups with Mellotron and samples and I spent copious amounts of time listening to Genesis,
King Crimson, etc. recorded and live…..and I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night! (US commercial for those abroad).
Seriously , I have run them through guitar amps, reverb, and whatever to get the sound I wanted like the albums
I listened to. Sorry if my ears aren’t as Mellotron astute as some here but I wasn’t trying to put down the tape machines
in any way….I think you know that…..actually I was expecting that response from Frank! J
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john barrick
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:00 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
How does yours sound, Gary?
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
In a live or studio mix you would never hear the difference especially after the reverb and
other processing that is commonly used on Mellotron tracks. It will almost certainly out
sell the tape machines but most on this list will hate it no matter what it sounds like.
Fire away…. J
john barrick
*Leo got it right the first time*
*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
2011-09-02 by john barrick
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:--The last time I recorded with a Mellotron (70’s) it sounded fine. Back then they were borrowed or rented since
(to address your jab J) I don’t own one. Now that may not allow me to have an opinion on this group but
I have recorded groups with Mellotron and samples and I spent copious amounts of time listening to Genesis,
King Crimson, etc. recorded and live…..and I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night! (US commercial for those abroad).
Seriously , I have run them through guitar amps, reverb, and whatever to get the sound I wanted like the albums
I listened to. Sorry if my ears aren’t as Mellotron astute as some here but I wasn’t trying to put down the tape machines
in any way….I think you know that…..actually I was expecting that response from Frank! J
john barrick*Leo got it right the first time**then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
2011-09-02 by Gary Brumm
Fortunately I meet those requirements! …..as for Mel Bring him on! J
Cheers!
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From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 5:47 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
Gary... Always remember the two requirements to be in this group. Thin skull & thick skin. You may mess with me to your hearts content. I can dish it out and I can take it. Mel, on the other hand, is thick skulled and thin skinned and he sometimes reads my email. He's also often drunk and somewhat stupid. So if he comes after you, don't take it hard. All he can do is make a lot of noise.
Frankl
In a message dated 9/1/2011 7:02:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gabru@comsec.net writes:
Just messing with you Frank….you made that comment about “how’s your Mellotron doing” before….
…..it’s ok I had it coming J
g
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of lsf5275@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 3:57 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
Why from me? I love the real ones, but I'd take a fake one too.
Frank
In a message dated 9/1/2011 6:41:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, gabru@comsec.net writes:
The last time I recorded with a Mellotron (70’s) it sounded fine. Back then they were borrowed or rented since
(to address your jab J) I don’t own one. Now that may not allow me to have an opinion on this group but
I have recorded groups with Mellotron and samples and I spent copious amounts of time listening to Genesis,
King Crimson, etc. recorded and live…..and I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night! (US commercial for those abroad).
Seriously , I have run them through guitar amps, reverb, and whatever to get the sound I wanted like the albums
I listened to. Sorry if my ears aren’t as Mellotron astute as some here but I wasn’t trying to put down the tape machines
in any way….I think you know that…..actually I was expecting that response from Frank! J
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john barrick
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:00 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
How does yours sound, Gary?
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
In a live or studio mix you would never hear the difference especially after the reverb and
other processing that is commonly used on Mellotron tracks. It will almost certainly out
sell the tape machines but most on this list will hate it no matter what it sounds like.
Fire away…. J
john barrick
*Leo got it right the first time*
*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
2011-09-02 by Gary Brumm
…and I do appreciate that! J
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john barrick
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 7:34 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] M4000 D
We like to keep you on your toes, Gary
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
The last time I recorded with a Mellotron (70’s) it sounded fine. Back then they were borrowed or rented since
(to address your jab J) I don’t own one. Now that may not allow me to have an opinion on this group but
I have recorded groups with Mellotron and samples and I spent copious amounts of time listening to Genesis,
King Crimson, etc. recorded and live…..and I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night! (US commercial for those abroad).
Seriously , I have run them through guitar amps, reverb, and whatever to get the sound I wanted like the albums
I listened to. Sorry if my ears aren’t as Mellotron astute as some here but I wasn’t trying to put down the tape machines
in any way….I think you know that…..actually I was expecting that response from Frank! J
--
john barrick
*Leo got it right the first time*
*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
2011-09-02 by john barrick
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
…and I do appreciate that! J
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john barrick
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 7:34 PM
We like to keep you on your toes, Gary
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:41 PM, Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net> wrote:
The last time I recorded with a Mellotron (70’s) it sounded fine. Back then they were borrowed or rented since
(to address your jab J) I don’t own one. Now that may not allow me to have an opinion on this group but
I have recorded groups with Mellotron and samples and I spent copious amounts of time listening to Genesis,
King Crimson, etc. recorded and live…..and I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night! (US commercial for those abroad).
Seriously , I have run them through guitar amps, reverb, and whatever to get the sound I wanted like the albums
I listened to. Sorry if my ears aren’t as Mellotron astute as some here but I wasn’t trying to put down the tape machines
in any way….I think you know that…..actually I was expecting that response from Frank! J
--
john barrick
*Leo got it right the first time*
*then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
--john barrick*Leo got it right the first time**then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
2011-09-02 by Mike Dickson
On 01/09/2011 21:24, fdoddy@aol.com wrote:
Here's my volley back..
Rarely do I use ANY processing on my tron with the exception of EQ and compression, so I am uncommon that way. No verb, no delay etc. Once I rebuild my 122 I'll dump it through that and the nice hot output of the tron will overdrive the Leslie nicely.
I fully admit to all manner of processing, just to make the sound a bit more interesting. On some of the more adventurous works I had a hand in (like 'Mars' or the Tallis Fantasia) there were 60+ Mellotron tracks used with maybe 20 of them being used at once on occasion. For that reason I really had to look into using Adobe Audition for noise reduction.
Just for laughs I once knocked up all the faders recorded the sound of 60 or so inactive Mellotrons at the same time. Pretty noisy.
Mike
2011-09-02 by feline1973
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "mellotronmadness" <mellotronmadness@...> wrote:
>
> I hadn't seen this before, I think I can just tell the difference
> between the M4000D and the Mark VI. I don't suppose anybody on the list
> has been tempted?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYKe7a7lc-E&feature=related>
> Mark
>
2011-09-02 by feline1973
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
>
> I have a need for a machine to take to the studio for the new album. The Memotron I had didn't have the quality I was looking for.
>
> Took delivery 2 days ago.
>
> Andy K
2011-09-02 by Andy kinch
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
>
> I have a need for a machine to take to the studio for the new album. The Memotron I had didn't have the quality I was looking for.
>
> Took delivery 2 days ago.
>
> Andy K
2011-09-02 by Gary Brumm
How difficult is it to add new voices?
From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy kinch
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:44 AM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
I signed up early on with a serial number of 43.
I know he has had production issues, particularly as the voice count was about six when I first contacted him. Then he said he wanted to go to 100, but was facing delays with the software. In all fairness he did give me the option of having one with the low voice count, but I felt it was going to be worth the wait to get the full set of 100. I didn't want to get into having to getting it upgraded.
Hang on in there, it will be well worth the wait.
Andy K
-----Original Message-----
From: feline1973 <feline1@feline1.co.uk>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 9:21
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
/is jealous/
Andy, can I ask what serial number yours is?
I'm number 90, I think...
I guess they're slowly trickling out in serial number order... --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
>
> I have a need for a machine to take to the studio for the new album. The Memotron I had didn't have the quality I was looking for.
>
> Took delivery 2 days ago.
>
> Andy K
2011-09-02 by ClayE
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@...> wrote:
>
> How difficult is it to add new voices?
>
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy kinch
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:44 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
> I signed up early on with a serial number of 43.
> I know he has had production issues, particularly as the voice count was about six when I first contacted him. Then he said he wanted to go to 100, but was facing delays with the software. In all fairness he did give me the option of having one with the low voice count, but I felt it was going to be worth the wait to get the full set of 100. I didn't want to get into having to getting it upgraded.
> Hang on in there, it will be well worth the wait.
>
> Andy K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: feline1973 <feline1@...<mailto:feline1@...>>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 9:21
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
> /is jealous/
>
> Andy, can I ask what serial number yours is?
> I'm number 90, I think...
> I guess they're slowly trickling out in serial number order...
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@<mailto:kinchmusic@>> wrote:
> >
> > I have a need for a machine to take to the studio for the new album. The Memotron I had didn't have the quality I was looking for.
> >
> > Took delivery 2 days ago.
> >
> > Andy K
>
2011-09-02 by Fritz Doddy
On Sep 2, 2011, at 1:47 PM, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@rogers.com> wrote:
The fact that they are 24 bit samples probably explains the delay in getting the full 100 voices. My guess is that he didn't have all of the tape library voices sampled at 24 bit. The digital mellotron samples that Markus has supplied up until now have been 16 bit. (Pinder CD rom). You might think it's easy to convert 16 bit to 24 bit, but Markus may have resampled everything one note at a time. Does anyone know ?
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@...> wrote:
>
> How difficult is it to add new voices?
>
>
> From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy kinch
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:44 AM
> To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
> I signed up early on with a serial number of 43.
> I know he has had production issues, particularly as the voice count was about six when I first contacted him. Then he said he wanted to go to 100, but was facing delays with the software. In all fairness he did give me the option of having one with the low voice count, but I felt it was going to be worth the wait to get the full set of 100. I didn't want to get into having to getting it upgraded.
> Hang on in there, it will be well worth the wait.
>
> Andy K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: feline1973 <feline1@...<mailto:feline1@...>>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 9:21
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
> /is jealous/
>
> Andy, can I ask what serial number yours is?
> I'm number 90, I think...
> I guess they're slowly trickling out in serial number order...
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup%40yahoogroups.com>, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@<mailto:kinchmusic@>> wrote:
> >
> > I have a need for a machine to take to the studio for the new album. The Memotron I had didn't have the quality I was looking for.
> >
> > Took delivery 2 days ago.
> >
> > Andy K
>
2011-09-02 by Andy kinch
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
>
> I have a need for a machine to take to the studio for the new album. The Memotron I had didn't have the quality I was looking for.
>
> Took delivery 2 days ago.
>
> Andy K
2011-09-02 by tron400
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Fritz Doddy <fdoddy@...> wrote:
>
> No need to convert one note at a time unless you're trying to avoid
> interacting with your spouse. Tons of good quality batch converters
> out there.
>
> Sorry for the brevity as I am replying from a remote region of
> iPhonekstan.
>
> fritzdoddy
>
> On Sep 2, 2011, at 1:47 PM, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:
>
> > The fact that they are 24 bit samples probably explains the delay in
> > getting the full 100 voices. My guess is that he didn't have all of
> > the tape library voices sampled at 24 bit. The digital mellotron
> > samples that Markus has supplied up until now have been 16 bit.
> > (Pinder CD rom). You might think it's easy to convert 16 bit to 24
> > bit, but Markus may have resampled everything one note at a time.
> > Does anyone know ?
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > How difficult is it to add new voices?
> > >
> > >
> > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy kinch
> > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:44 AM
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > >
> > >
> > > I signed up early on with a serial number of 43.
> > > I know he has had production issues, particularly as the voice
> > count was about six when I first contacted him. Then he said he
> > wanted to go to 100, but was facing delays with the software. In all
> > fairness he did give me the option of having one with the low voice
> > count, but I felt it was going to be worth the wait to get the full
> > set of 100. I didn't want to get into having to getting it upgraded.
> > > Hang on in there, it will be well worth the wait.
> > >
> > > Andy K
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: feline1973 <feline1@<mailto:feline1@>>
> > > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > >>
> > > Sent: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 9:21
> > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > >
> > > /is jealous/
> > >
> > > Andy, can I ask what serial number yours is?
> > > I'm number 90, I think...
> > > I guess they're slowly trickling out in serial number order...
> > >
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup
> > %40yahoogroups.com>, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@<mailto:kinchmusic@>>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have a need for a machine to take to the studio for the new
> > album. The Memotron I had didn't have the quality I was looking for.
> > > >
> > > > Took delivery 2 days ago.
> > > >
> > > > Andy K
> > >
> >
> >
>
2011-09-03 by john barrick
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@yahoo.com> wrote:--
But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
Berniejohn barrick*Leo got it right the first time**then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
2011-09-03 by tron400
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@...> wrote:
>
> It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> >
> > Bernie
> >
> > --
> john barrick
>
> *Leo got it right the first time*
> *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
>
2011-09-03 by feline1973
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, "tron400" <tron400@...> wrote:
>
> But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
>
> Bernie
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Fritz Doddy <fdoddy@> wrote:
> >
> > No need to convert one note at a time unless you're trying to avoid
> > interacting with your spouse. Tons of good quality batch converters
> > out there.
> >
> > Sorry for the brevity as I am replying from a remote region of
> > iPhonekstan.
> >
> > fritzdoddy
> >
> > On Sep 2, 2011, at 1:47 PM, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@> wrote:
> >
> > > The fact that they are 24 bit samples probably explains the delay in
> > > getting the full 100 voices. My guess is that he didn't have all of
> > > the tape library voices sampled at 24 bit. The digital mellotron
> > > samples that Markus has supplied up until now have been 16 bit.
> > > (Pinder CD rom). You might think it's easy to convert 16 bit to 24
> > > bit, but Markus may have resampled everything one note at a time.
> > > Does anyone know ?
2011-09-03 by feline1973
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@...> wrote:
>
> It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> >
> > Bernie
> >
> > --
> john barrick
>
> *Leo got it right the first time*
> *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
>
2011-09-03 by fdoddy@aol.com
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Fritz Doddy <fdoddy@...> wrote:
>
> No need to convert one note at a time unless you're trying to avoid
> interacting with your spouse. Tons of good quality batch converters
> out there.
>
> Sorry for the brevity as I am replying from a remote region of
> iPhonekstan.
>
> fritzdoddy
>
> On Sep 2, 2011, at 1:47 PM, "ClayE" <ecclesreinson@...> wrote:
>
> > The fact that they are 24 bit samples probably explains the delay in
> > getting the full 100 voices. My guess is that he didn't have all of
> > the tape library voices sampled at 24 bit. The digital mellotron
> > samples that Markus has supplied up until now have been 16 bit.
> > (Pinder CD rom). You might think it's easy to convert 16 bit to 24
> > bit, but Markus may have resampled everything one note at a time.
> > Does anyone know ?
> >
> > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Gary Brumm <gabru@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > How difficult is it to add new voices?
> > >
> > >
> > > From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy kinch
> > > Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 9:44 AM
> > > To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > >
> > >
> > > I signed up early on with a serial number of 43.
> > > I know he has had production issues, particularly as the voice
> > count was about six when I first contacted him. Then he said he
> > wanted to go to 100, but was facing delays with the software. In all
> > fairness he did give me the option of having one with the low voice
> > count, but I felt it was going to be worth the wait to get the full
> > set of 100. I didn't want to get into having to getting it upgraded.
> > > Hang on in there, it will be well worth the wait.
> > >
> > > Andy K
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: feline1973 <feline1@<mailto:feline1@>>;
> > > To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
> > >>
> > > Sent: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 9:21
> > > Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
> > >
> > > /is jealous/
> > >
> > > Andy, can I ask what serial number yours is?
> > > I'm number 90, I think...
> > > I guess they're slowly trickling out in serial number order...
> > >
> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com<mailto:newmellotrongroup
> > %40yahoogroups.com>, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@<mailto:kinchmusic@>>;
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have a need for a machine to take to the studio for the new
> > album. The Memotron I had didn't have the quality I was looking for.
> > > >
> > > > Took delivery 2 days ago.
> > > >
> > > > Andy K
> > >
> >
> >
>
2011-09-03 by fdoddy@aol.com
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@...> wrote:
>
> It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> >
> > Bernie
> >
> > --
> john barrick
>
> *Leo got it right the first time*
> *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
>
2011-09-04 by Ms. Janet Strauss
Well…the last three days I’ve been back and forth between the carnage and Richmond and the disaster Williamsburg Virginia….
We had a few sticks in the yard.
A LOT of sticks.
Not much head room in the “remodeled” F150.
The roaming gnome made an appearance….
2011-09-05 by Andy kinch
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@...> wrote:
>
> It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
>
> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> >
> > Bernie
> >
> > --
> john barrick
>
> *Leo got it right the first time*
> *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
>
2011-09-05 by ClayE
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
>
>
> For those interested, I've added some pics to the members area.
>
> Andy K
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fdoddy <fdoddy@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 17:23
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
>
>
> I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency. Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
>
>
> fritz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
>
> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
>
> Bernie
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> >
> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > > --
> > john barrick
> >
> > *Leo got it right the first time*
> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency. Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
>
>
> fritz
>
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
>
> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
>
> Bernie
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> >
> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > > --
> > john barrick
> >
> > *Leo got it right the first time*
> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
> >
>
2011-09-05 by Andy kinch
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
>
>
> For those interested, I've added some pics to the members area.
>
> Andy K
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fdoddy <fdoddy@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 17:23
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
>
>
> I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency. Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
>
>
> fritz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
>
> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
>
> Bernie
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> >
> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > > --
> > john barrick
> >
> > *Leo got it right the first time*
> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency. Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
>
>
> fritz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
>
> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
>
> Bernie
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> >
> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > > --
> > john barrick
> >
> > *Leo got it right the first time*
> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
> >
>
2011-09-05 by Thomas C. Doncourt
>
>
> Clay.
> All 100 voices seem to have the extra 2 notes. If there is any pitch
> shifting going on it's been well implemented. Markus did say that some had
> the extra notes recorded but never used till now. But I would guess some
> but not all.
> Interesting that m300 strings A and B are available as 2 separate voices,
> lower register and higher, so you get everything!
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 16:50
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
>
> Thanks for posting the pics Andy. Do all 100 voices have the low F and F#
> ? Do some of them sound pitch shifted? I wouldn't think that he would have
> recordings of those notes for all 100 voices.
>
> The two additional notes may not seem like a big deal, but when you need
> them, you need them. Sometimes the middle F just will not do it!
>
> Clay
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@...>
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> For those interested, I've added some pics to the members area.
>>
>> Andy K
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: fdoddy <fdoddy@...>
>> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 17:23
>> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd
>> rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency.
>> Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if
>> they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the
>> oversampling filters.
>>
>>
>> fritz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
>> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
>> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
>>
>> Bernie
>>
>> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about
>> 20
>> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
>> >
>> > > **
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I
>> would think
>> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were
>> sampled at
>> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
>> > >
>> > > Bernie
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > john barrick
>> >
>> > *Leo got it right the first time*
>> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd
>> rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency.
>> Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if
>> they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the
>> oversampling filters.
>>
>>
>> fritz
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
>> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
>> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
>> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
>>
>> Bernie
>>
>> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about
>> 20
>> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
>> >
>> > > **
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I
>> would think
>> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were
>> sampled at
>> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
>> > >
>> > > Bernie
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > john barrick
>> >
>> > *Leo got it right the first time*
>> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
>> >
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
2011-09-05 by Hessel Herder
Clay.All 100 voices seem to have the extra 2 notes. If there is any pitch shifting going on it's been well implemented. Markus did say that some had the extra notes recorded but never used till now. But I would guess some but not all.Interesting that m300 strings A and B are available as 2 separate voices, lower register and higher, so you get everything!Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 16:50
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
Thanks for posting the pics Andy. Do all 100 voices have the low F and F# ? Do some of them sound pitch shifted? I wouldn't think that he would have recordings of those notes for all 100 voices.
The two additional notes may not seem like a big deal, but when you need them, you need them. Sometimes the middle F just will not do it!
Clay
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
>
>
> For those interested, I've added some pics to the members area.
>
> Andy K
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fdoddy <fdoddy@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 17:23
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
>
>
> I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency. Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
>
>
> fritz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
>
> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
>
> Bernie
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> >
> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > > --
> > john barrick
> >
> > *Leo got it right the first time*
> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency. Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
>
>
> fritz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
>
> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
>
> Bernie
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> >
> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > > --
> > john barrick
> >
> > *Leo got it right the first time*
> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
> >
>
2011-09-05 by Andy kinch
Clay.All 100 voices seem to have the extra 2 notes. If there is any pitch shifting going on it's been well implemented. Markus did say that some had the extra notes recorded but never used till now. But I would guess some but not all.Interesting that m300 strings A and B are available as 2 separate voices, lower register and higher, so you get everything!Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 16:50
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
Thanks for posting the pics Andy. Do all 100 voices have the low F and F# ? Do some of them sound pitch shifted? I wouldn't think that he would have recordings of those notes for all 100 voices.
The two additional notes may not seem like a big deal, but when you need them, you need them. Sometimes the middle F just will not do it!
Clay
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
>
>
> For those interested, I've added some pics to the members area.
>
> Andy K
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fdoddy <fdoddy@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 17:23
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
>
>
> I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency. Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
>
>
> fritz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
>
> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
>
> Bernie
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> >
> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > > --
> > john barrick
> >
> > *Leo got it right the first time*
> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency. Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
>
>
> fritz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
>
> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
>
> Bernie
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> >
> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > > --
> > john barrick
> >
> > *Leo got it right the first time*
> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
> >
>
2011-09-05 by Hessel Herder
Hi Hessel.Yes!Is there a more sombre sound in the entire library? No!A
-----Original Message-----
From: Hessel Herder <hessel@soundscape-worldwide.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 20:01
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
Hi Andy
Is the M300 string B program the solo violin?
Cheers,H
Clay.All 100 voices seem to have the extra 2 notes. If there is any pitch shifting going on it's been well implemented. Markus did say that some had the extra notes recorded but never used till now. But I would guess some but not all.Interesting that m300 strings A and B are available as 2 separate voices, lower register and higher, so you get everything!Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: ClayE <ecclesreinson@rogers.com>
To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 16:50
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
Thanks for posting the pics Andy. Do all 100 voices have the low F and F# ? Do some of them sound pitch shifted? I wouldn't think that he would have recordings of those notes for all 100 voices.
The two additional notes may not seem like a big deal, but when you need them, you need them. Sometimes the middle F just will not do it!
Clay
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Andy kinch <kinchmusic@...> wrote:
>
>
> For those interested, I've added some pics to the members area.
>
> Andy K
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fdoddy <fdoddy@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, 3 Sep 2011 17:23
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
>
>
> I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency. Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
>
>
> fritz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
>
> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
>
> Bernie
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> >
> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > > --
> > john barrick
> >
> > *Leo got it right the first time*
> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I missed the sampling rate on first read. 22.05 Fs is unacceptable. I'd rather sample at a lower bit rate than sacrifice sampling frequency. Remember the old Roland samplers? They were only 12bit ...don't know if they ever went to 16, but they sounded great...it's all about the oversampling filters.
>
>
> fritz
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tron400 <tron400@...>
> To: newmellotrongroup <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 3, 2011 8:20 am
> Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: M4000 D
>
>
>
>
> Most commercial sample sets are 44 K.
>
> Bernie
>
> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, john barrick <barrickjohn262@> wrote:
> >
> > It's surprising that it's that low - I worked in television for about 20
> > years and we were doing most of our audio at 44 K.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:23 PM, tron400 <tron400@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > But does batch-converting 16 bit to 24 bit improve the sound? I would think
> > > that resampling would be necessary. Also the Pinder samples were sampled at
> > > 22,050 Hz. There's lots of room for improvement there.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > > --
> > john barrick
> >
> > *Leo got it right the first time*
> > *then he added a second pickup and got it righter*
> >
>