So how much more degraded were one generation masters from the masters?
How much doctoring did bands such as Genesis, King Crimson, and The Moody Blues use when recording the Mellotron to mask these degrations? I know that double tracking was used along with a sea of reverb. Can one really tell the difference between generations of tapes when so much external processing is done?
On Jul 25, 2010, at 7:41 AM, tronbros wrote:
Nobody is saying anything is bad. The mail related to what makes a digital device have an authentic sound. As stated before, tapes from Streetly, London or Sound Sales came from work masters, not masters or even copy masters. The degradation was part of the sound. Nobody is saying anything sounds poor but rather what makes for authenticity! The big claim about master tapes is stuff and nonsense. We have Les's protection copies, one generation away from the MASTERS (sing hallelujas) but we never use them. They are there as a valued archive and have no place in regular tape production or any simulation.Best,You are probably right.
Markus machine is probably not that great...
100 Chamberlin and Mellotron sounds (200 with the expansion including Optigan, Orchestron and Talentmaker sounds) in a keyboard with a Mellotron keyboard made by the guy who owns the entire Mellotron/chamberlin tape library for a relatively low price.
It just has to be bad. Why would anyone want to tour with that ?
Right ?
// Mattias
Den 2010-07-23 23.32, skrev "tronbros" com>:
However,the Memotron is taken from a host of real 'trons and tape frames of different pedigrees so it could be argued it is closer than the Reschotron to the real thing. Of course I could be wrong!
Best,
Martin
mellotronics.co.uk <http://mellotronics.co.uk>
On 23 Jul 2010, at 21:32, "tron400" com> wrote:
If I were to buy a digital Tron, it would be the Mellotron Archives "M4000D" because the samples are probably way better. It also has a real Tron keyboard to help simulate the actual feel. I think the Memotron is now obsolete. It's just the M-Tron in a box and it costs more than the "M4000D" (hopefully, the name will change before it comes out on the market).
Bernie
--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com group@yahoogroups.com> , "d829d" wrote:
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> no I havent heard it up close that's my point...how close do you have to be ? LOL
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> seriously those sounds are very alluring
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> > Have you heard one up close? I didn't thing they were available yet; unless you're talking about the Memotron, which which uses the M-Tron samples and those aren't of the highest quality.
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> > > yeah but I have been playing piano since I was 10 thats 36 years and have a very good ear and this thing sounds fantastic to my well trained ear.
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> > > --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com group@yahoogroups.com> , Bruce Daily wrote:
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> > > > It probably sounds like a Mellotron, but nothing beats the Real Thing!
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> > > > Date: Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 2:57 PM
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> > > > This has probably been talked about before but I am new here and wanted to ask what you all think of it ?
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