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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: NAMM Report

2010-01-16 by fdoddy@aol.com

Nice sounding mic pre's on the onyx series.

Digital tron? I dunno...It's pretty.  Somedays my tron just doesn't want to sound good or in tune on a track, so I just do something else because it wasn't meant to be. The days it wants to play nicely, it's magic.   I imagine the digital tron will sound just fine everyday but I anticipate there won't be any magic for me.

fd

 


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: tony1 <atm655@verizon.net>
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2010 6:04 pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: NAMM Report


  
    
                  

Agreed I have a small Mackie for my practice room and I like the little sucker.
Their Oynx 80 looks good to me.
That ought to piss the neighbors off.
 
Have a great weekend and thanks for your valued input (no pun).
 
Best,
Tony
 
PS what do you think of this digital Mellotron?
I'm wating for M5000 #2.
 
  
----- Original Message ----- 
  
From:   fdoddy@aol.com 
  
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com   
  
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 5:36   PM
  
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: NAMM   Report
  


    
  
  
Glad to   help.  We still have one of the first Mackie 8-buss mixers delivered to   NY. It has the shit beat out of it and it still sounds fine.  I have a   first gen 1604 ganged to a 1604 VLZ.  That's what I tracked and mixed my   record on.  Can't kill those Mackie boards.  If there is a Hall of   Fame for mixers, the first gen 1604 has got to get in :>) Not one problem   in 18 years.

fd

  


  
  


  


  
-----Original   Message-----
From: tony1 <atm655@verizon.net>
To:   newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2010 4:49   pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: NAMM Report

  
    
  
  
  
 
  
Hey Fritz,
  
 
  
I don't buy used for a lot of   reasons.
  
Former AES member too, so no stranger   to this stuff.
  
Out of practice sure, but my ears still   spot on tunings etc, as I was the synth tech for a major store here and drew   clients from all over the Tampa/St. Pete/Clearwater area (over 3 million   folks).
  
I like the Mackie stuff and am 90% sure   they make a 48 channel board, plus I still have my "ins" from those days   locally.
  
I remember the unvieling of the Solid   State Logic board at the 1979 AES convention in Los Angeles. What a piece of   gear as well as the Neve!
  
Going to have a look at Toft stuff in a   few.
  
 
  
Thanks for your suggestions, I'll let   you know what I end up with.
  
 
  
Best,
  
Tony
  
 
  
 
  
    
-----     Original Message ----- 
    
From:     fdoddy@aol.com     
    
To:     newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com     
    
Sent:     Friday, January 15, 2010 4:25 PM
    
Subject:     Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: NAMM Report
    


      
    
    
Be very wary of     buying anything used unless you have a good tech and know what to look     for.  If you are looking for something used, see if you can get it in     your set up for a while.

Gonna be tough finding something that's over     32 channels that isn't geared more for live unless you've got some bucks to     spend.

Please stay away from digital mixers. Yes, they're convenient     but sound like shit.

Old Mackie 8-buss mixers still sound nice and     you can probably find a side car for them. Mackie Digital 8-buss are     absolute nightmares.

New stuff?  I'm liking the Chinese made     Toft ATB series.  They all have a monitor section so a 32 channel board     can net you 64 discrete inputs.  They sound very nice too for the     money.

SSL AWS 900 kicks sublime ass but it's pricey.  It would     be my desert island desk.  We have one at work...maybe they won't miss     it :>)

fd

    


    
    


    


    
-----Original     Message-----
From: tony1 <atm655@verizon.net>
To:     newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Jan 15, 2010 3:03     pm
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: NAMM Report

    
      
    
    
    
    
Speaking for myself, I find something interesting in about     every musical instrument around.
    
I need a larger mixer (40+ chan) and I would appreciate an     honest reccomendation fellas!
    
Thanks in advance,
    
 
    
Tony
    
Neve is a bit out of my reach lol.
    
 
    
      
-----       Original Message ----- 
      
From:       Chris Dale 
      
To:       newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com       
      
Sent:       Friday, January 15, 2010 2:53 PM
      
Subject:       Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: NAMM Report
      


        
      
      
 
      
Nah, I doubt this will make a difference to the "Chamberlin"       market.  If you ever had one or ever played one you'd       know.
      
 
      
 
      
Chamberlin sounds in a Mellotron do not sound the same as a real       Chamberlin - just as the M400 violins do not sound identical to the       MK II violins, nor do M300 sounds or MK II sounds sound like a real MK II       or M300 if they're coming from an M400.
      
 
      
This is my experience playing multiple Chamberlins and       Mellotrons over the last 20 years. They're all unique and different.
      
 
      
If you really spend time closely listening to all these instruments       you can tell.
      
 
      
Most people can't because they only use 1 machine at       best.   No A and B comparison can be made.
      
 
      
 
      
This new digital version is for a different market anyway. 
      
 
      
I imagine Markus will continue to build the MK 6 alongside this       digital tron, just as Streetly will continue with the M4000.
      
 
      
And rightfully so.
      
 
      
Anyone wanting authenticity and a product of real quality will buy an       original tape version. 
      
 
      
Anyone wanting the sounds and feel with digital high quality       will buy an authorized "tribute version" 
      
 
      
There's room for both. 
      
 
      
 
      
 
      
 
      
 
      
 
      
 
      
 
      
On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Mattias Olsson       <Mattias.olsson5@comhem.se>       wrote:
      
        
          
        
        
        
        
Buying a Chamberlin M1 for 7000 dollars         wont really make as much sense anymore...
        
 
        
But keep it a secret...
        
 
        
// Mattias
        
        
 
        
 
        
 
        
 
        
 
        
          
-----           Original Message ----- 
          
From:           John Wright 
          
To:           newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com           
          
Sent:           Friday, January 15, 2010 7:39 PM
          
Subject:           RE: [newmellotrongroup] Re: NAMM Report
          


            
          
          
If true, Memotron is done for.            Markus will hit  a home run if pricing is that           low.

          
          
          From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com           [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com]           On Behalf Of djacques@csulb.edu
Sent:           Friday, January 15, 2010 1:32 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject:           Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: NAMM Report


          
            
          
Its a lot lower than that. 
          
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From: "Tron400" <kornowicz@cox.net> 
          
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:48:51 -0000
          
To: <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com>
          
Subject: [newmellotrongroup] Re: NAMM Report
          


            
          


I'd be surprised if it was that cheap. Didn't someone           post $2700? That seems more likely, but even that could be           low.

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com,           lsf5275@... wrote:
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> I think someone posted           $1,600-$1,900.00
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