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Re: Off topic Samplers

2008-08-22 by Doug Berg

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, Bruce Daily <pocotron@...> 
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> Interesting application, James-
>    I was wondering if one could map & split the sounds as you 
describe.  That would sure make the most of an 88 note keyboard.  Can 
a pitch bend be applied to this setup uniformly across all notes?
>    -Bruce Daily
>   (really appreciating the sampler "tutorial")
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>> On my E4 the answer is yes.  Depending on how you map the banks 
when you load them you can assign pitch bend globally or just the 
range of keys on one bank. The thing I like the most as with the EII 
as well is changing banks is quick and can easily be done as good as 
using the 400 track selector.  My E4 has an add on effects card so 
you can program say the choir bank with more delay and echo and run 
say the flutes with almost no processing as well as balance the 
volume output.  I just got a Yamaha SY99, 76 keys, and am looking 
forward to doing a lot of splits via the E4. 
The other thing is with all the stuff you can do with sound files, as 
importing wav files and writing them onto a proprietary disk ready to 
use in your Korg or whatever, why be bothered with USB?  Back in 
spring I received an old Mac for my Emulator II and after getting the 
proper interface cable I can now dump the data on all those 5.25 
floppies into the Mac and then load them directly to the hard drive 
on the EII or convert them to load into the E4.  Why it took 20 years 
to be able to do this is beyond me(along with just about everything 
else).  Just rambling on....Doug





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> I purchased on ebay several years ago an Akai CD3000 sampler 
specifically to play my Pinder Mellotron CD. It loads "tape sets" 
directly from its CD drive into internal memory. I use whatever midi 
keyboard I want to trigger the samples. Typically, I will load MKII 
strings and 8 Voice Choir into memory and trigger it from my Korg 
Triton Pro and put the strings on one half of the keyboard and choir 
on the other. It's kind of like having a MKII Mellotron. Obviously I 
can use any combination of layers or splits as well. 
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> Regards,
> Jim Parthun
> Parthun Enterprises, Inc.
> 630/968-8731 Office
> 630/968-8732 Fax
> 630/533-8340 Cellular
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> From: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: 
newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Mark Pring
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 5:51 PM
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic Samplers
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> I am not clear about this myself.  I know nothing about samplers. I 
have a midi keyboard. I assume that the keyboard attatches via a midi 
cable to the sampler. I assume that the samples could be loaded from 
CD rom directly into the sampler ( my preferred option ) or via a USB 
cable from a computer. I assume that the output signal comes from the 
sampler and can then be sent to a mixer and powered speakers.
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> Is that correct?
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> Mark
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> --- On Fri, 8/22/08, lsf5275@aol. com <lsf5275@aol. com> wrote:
> From: lsf5275@aol. com <lsf5275@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic Samplers
> To: newmellotrongroup@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 10:27 AM
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> In a message dated 8/21/2008 5:32:30 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
i_am_zontar@ yahoo.com writes:
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> Re: [newmellotrongroup] Off topic Samplers
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> > I could also recommend the Akai Z4 or Z8. You can expand it up to 
512 meg >which means you have a lot of sounds to play around with 
before you have >to load again from the hard disk. I find the 
architecture very easy for me >to use. You would have to connect an 
external CD drive or load sounds >directly from the computer via usb. 
The Akai interface software has been >easy for me to use also.
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> i second the akai suggestion.
> the newer ones have:
> usb available for direct connection to a computer
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> software [free] that utilizes that interface
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> allows direct importing of .wav files for EASY importing of just 
about any audio file you might want to put in it
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> i have an ensoniq asr-10 and an emu esi4000.
> they both have serious limitations that cannot be overcome.
> they are, in some ways, complimentary, and i use them both all the 
time.
> but... the recent akais have, to put it simply, removed all the 
limitations that make these others cumbersome difficult and 
restrictive. if i recall the s5000 and s6000 are both usb-capable as 
are the z-* series, but do verify this before purchasing. they are 
all available on ebay all the time.
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> some people find the akai operating system unfriendly, but i think 
it's one of those things that the more you use it the easier it 
becomes, and just a small investment in time makes it all 
worthwhile.. .
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> >I am thinking of buying a sampler, but I do not know much about 
them. I >would be buying second hand in New Zealand so it would 
probably be be 4-5 >years old and would be a very popular model. 
Being a small country there >is a very limited choice of musical 
equipment anything even slightly >unusual is not likely to be 
imported.
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> >It would need to be simple and load from CD rom and connect via 
usb to a >midi keyboard.
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> can you please clarify this statement?
> midi and usb are, obviously, not the same, and not for the same 
purposes.
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> >If anyone can help with advice and has the time to answer some 
questions, >please contact me off list.
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> >Thanks
> >Mark
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> It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel 
deal here.
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