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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Yes - Close To The Edge

2012-03-28 by jason wietlispach

Yes is ok and I cant stand the Moody Blues. For prog bands I think Genesis and King Crimson made better use of the mellotron and their music to me still resonates. I like extreme avant garde classical and that is as pretentious as it gets, so it's not a matter of being too high brow. Yes to me seems like a lot of cool parts thrown together to make a song, not songs with lots of cool parts. Moody Blues just plain suck "I'm just a singer in a crappy rock n' roll band" "clowns in white satin, boring to the end".  On the same note, outside of a few tunes and maybe their first lp, ELP has not aged well at all. Crummy endless solos. Give me Eno,  Robert Wyatt, Univers Zero and Henry Cow any day.

 
 
 
From: tronbros <tronbros@aol.com>
To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Yes - Close To The Edge


  
I didn't bash them - I just can't stand them.  It's personal choice, nothing more.  They are well respected but I can't force myself to like them because they used a mellotron.  So did Pavlov's Dog and Czar.  Neither of them get played around here.  In truth, I would probably hate most of the bands that Andy documents on his site.  Mellotrons inspired a LOT of non musicians and lousy composers.  That grandiose sound gave credence to a lot of weak musical ideas.  Pomp over substance.  I also loathe......Lynyrd Skynrd, U2, REM, and many many more.  Music is such a devisive subject.  Luckily I am always correct!  Discuss.

Best,

M



mellotronics.co.uk 



On 28 Mar 2012, at 21:11, Robert <rmrmax@yahoo.com> wrote:


  
>I agree with you Gary....
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>I don't understand all the bashing of Yes's & the Moodie's earlier recordings on this list.  These groups are a bit pretentious but, so what ?
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>Thanks to these groups and many others, I got into Henry Cow, Terje Rypdal, Universe Zero, John Coltrane, Billie Holiday, Jackie Mclean, Lester Young, Antonio Carlos Jobim, Bill Evans, Stravinsky, Shostakovich, Part, Luigi Nono, etc......
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>Below is CTTE, Part 2.  To me, it looks like RW is playing his Hammond organ starting @ 2:54.
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>Robert
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uZPdour-j0&feature=related
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>From: Gary Brumm <gabru@comsec.net>
>To: "newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com" <newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> 
>Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:11 PM
>Subject: RE: [newmellotrongroup] St John's Wood Church Organ
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>Hey Martin, You shouldn’t hate the band that is probably most responsible for the Mellotron being known by the ordinary musician.  
>I am sure they influenced many of the sales in the old days.
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>….But that is NOT a Mellotron doing the pipes on CTTE…..it’s a synth live and the real deal on the album.  
>I saw it preformed many times.
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>Cheers,
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>Gary
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>From:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com [mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tronbros
>Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 9:13 AM
>To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] St John's Wood Church Organ
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>Who are you asking?  I hate YES.
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>Best,
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>M
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>mellotronics.co.uk
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>On 28 Mar 2012, at 16:43, Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>Isn't the church organ part on Close To The Edge the St John's Wood Mellotron sound ?
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>>On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 6:11 PM, tronbros <tronbros@aol.com> wrote:
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>>Hi Paul,
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>>The recording was made around 70/71 and was released in the M400 catalogue.  Far too late for the MKII.
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>>Best,
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>>On 27 Mar 2012, at 22:41, "PJ12" <pj4000@btinternet.com> wrote:
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>>>Hi All
>>>I popped in to the church today to have a look at the organ I have so much fun with (no, I mean the other one). Must get to hear it some time. 
>>>I read on t'internet that this is not the original 1862 one but a replacement installed 1912, if anyone cares about such tedious trivia.
>>>Does anyone know when the recordings were made, and was it on the Mk1 and Mk11?
>>>Paul 
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