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Re: [newmellotrongroup] Re: Foo Fighters live w/M4000D

2011-08-23 by lsf5275@aol.com

Watch this video and learn. Nothing is new.
 
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79D8SRrqX5U_ 
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79D8SRrqX5U) 
 
 
In a message dated 8/23/2011 11:18:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
ecclesreinson@rogers.com writes:

 
 
 
Yes. The Gary Numan formula had a pinch of Bowie, a dash of Eno, maybe a  
little Kraftwerk and a TON of John Foxx/Ultravox. Then Bauhaus took the  
formula and pasted it on to NIN.

Maybe there is no such thing as  original material. Some songwriters come 
very close to creating original  songs. Lennon and McCartney come to mind. 
Who else over the past 50 years?  Brian Wilson? Simon and Garfunkel? Michael 
Jackson? Eminem? Madonna?  ...several others but it's not a long list.

Clay 

--- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  "feline1973" <feline1@...> wrote:
>
> Are you guys nuts?  Numan made some exceptional records in his heyday, 
which I've owned for years  and seen done live, 
> but in terms of musical form he was a total  johnny-come-lately, 
> basically playing mid-70s glam-pub-rock (think  "Glass of Champagne") and 
playing it with the same instrumentation of  Bowie/Eno's "Warsawa" and 
Human League's "Being Boiled". That's pretty much  all he did. It was pretty 
formulaic.
> (Emotionally, he took out the  cheeky flirtatious vibe, and replaced it 
with aspergic misery).
> By  "Dance" he got Mick Karn to play on his record and make it sound like 
 Japan.
> 
> You seem oblivious to the entire post-kraftwerk  electro dance music 
genres that have proliferated ever since "acid house" went  into the charts in 
1988... Where on earth have you been living for the last 25  years?! Inside a 
mellotron?! 
> 
> All this notwithstanding, of  course, you are quite correct that pretty 
much all comercial pop and rock is  afflicted with a ridiculous retro mania - 
as Andy McCluskey of OMD opined last  year when talking about their new 
album - 
> pop seems to exist as a  perpetual museum exhibit these days - everything 
remains "in fashion" and you  can do any genre you want, so long as you get 
your pastiche right and do all  the correct elements credibly. 
> Although it could be argued that the  quest for authentic mellotron 
sounds seen on this list is a perfect example of  that, chin-strokers on here 
feeling that MTron plugins etc are insufficiently  authentic.
> Which is probably right - any full knows you need to play  M-tron twice 
through a plate echo, slightly sharp of take 1 and slightly flat  on take 2 
and pan them like mad to get a cool sound ;) 
> 
> ---  In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  fdoddy@ wrote:
> >
> > 
> > yeah, Gary Numan  certainly was the zenith...
> > 
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> > 
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: mellotronmadness  <mellotronmadness@>
> > To: newmellotrongroup <_newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) >
>  > Sent: Tue, Aug 23, 2011 4:17 am
> > Subject: [newmellotrongroup]  Re: Foo Fighters live w/M4000D
> > 
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> > The Foo Fighters sound pretty  generic to me they could be anyone and 
from anytime over the last 30  years.
> > 
> > Although I no longer enjoy listening to  progressive rock music much, 
at least it was new at the time, I can't think of  anything new or different 
much after Garry Numan. 
> > 
> >  I feel sorry for young people now, at least the stuff I listened to 
was new  and didn't sound like my parent's music e.g Glen Miller. Today most 
of the  stuff my kids listen to could have been recorded at anytime over the 
last  30-50 years. My parents hated King Crimson although my father did like 
Michael  Gile's drumming on Schizoid Man. I don't hate my children's music 
I'm just  bored by it.
> > 
> > Oh God, I'm starting to sound like my  dad.
> > 
> > And speaking of "Nights in White Satin" it's  the only song that I can 
still remember exactly where I was when I heard if  for the first time: 
Heald Green, Stockport on 18th November 1968 approx 11pm.  
> > 
> > I suppose most popular music just isn't  interesting enough to stand up 
to repeated playing over 4 decades. I still  quite enjoy listening but it's 
really more to do with nostalgia than anything  else.
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> > PS 2 tracks  that did stand the test of time for me, other than a most 
of John Lennon's  work with the Beatles:
> > 
> > Colosseum Walking in the  Park ( live)
> > Cream Crossroads ( live).
> > 
> >  --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
(mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  Chris Dale <unobtainiumkeys@> wrote:
> > >
> > >  The word "Foo Fighter" was a reference to a type of UFO seen over  
battle
> > > skies during WWII.
> > > 
> >  > 
> > > As far as this band goes, I also feel they suck but  then I thought 
Nirvana
> > > was (and still is) an overrated  stinking pile of crap too.
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> > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Mike Dickson  <mike.dickson@>wrote:
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> > > > I feel  grateful that I've never even heard of these guys at all.
> > >  >
> > > >
> > > > On 23/08/2011 02:48, Bruce  Daily wrote:
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> > > > Better yet, why does the Foo Fighter bird lay its  eggs in the air?
> > > >
> > > > (or, are we all  just bozos on this bus?)
> > > >
> > > > -Bruce  D.
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