The Mellotron Group

King Crimson NEVER sold out..

 

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From: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jack Younger
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 5:35 PM
To: newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [newmellotrongroup] Had to be there...

 

Agreed! Keep in mind, that last posting was pretty
general. There are exceptions.
However, that album brilliantly utilizes irony to
accomplish it's poignant goals. It's a fine example
of modern attitudes worked in such a way as to lend
power to it's cause. 
I will say that among hardcore punk rock crowds and
musicians, that album is often considered pandering
and lightweight. To that sentiment, I do not agree. 
But that is exacly what I'm talking about. That's the
indie rock, nay-sayer thing in action. "I only liked
the first record." and "They used to be good but
they sold out." These things get said often when a
band gets successful and because of that, are no
longer "cool" to like. It's maddening and
closed-minded, but still a very real problem.
-Jack

--- lsf5275@aol. <mailto:lsf5275%40aol.com> com wrote:

> 
> In a message dated 1/7/2008 8:04:07 P.M. Eastern
> Standard Time, 
> e4103s@yahoo. <mailto:e4103s%40yahoo.com> com writes:
> 
> I would like to take this opportunity to point out
> that attitudes toward music (listening, writing,
> recording) have changed radically over the years in
> so
> many ways. 
> Generally, music prior to the 90's was taken far 
> more
> seriously. That is to say that one was able to be
> overly dramatic or cause-oriented and still be
> taken
> in earnest. In the 60's and 70's (and for a big
> hunk
> of the 80's) music was going to save the world. It
> was a huge industry, communicating many ideas and
> views, and the industry itself provided tremendous
> power to back up these concepts. Come the 90's and
> the grunge era, irony became the cool new thing. If
> a
> band took themselves too seriously, they were
> dismissed as pretentious and that continues to this
> day, even more so.
> Today, everything has to be taken with a grain of
> salt. If you preach, you alienate your audience. If
> you emote too readily or fervently, your crowd
> becomes
> uncomfortable and sometimes embarrassed. I love the
> Moody Blues, all of it, and I'm often embarrassed
> by
> my love for them nowadays. But I'm a recordist, so 
> it
> often gets me by in times when I tell folks that
> Abba
> were brilliant or that the 1st Boston album is one
> of
> the finest recorded albums to come out in decades. 
> Not so cool, but I don't care and why should I? 
> These attitudes are especially pronounced with
> older
> prog and metal. Original fans BELIEVED in these
> bands
> and their message. Now the kids listen to the early
> King Crimson and find it ponderous and silly, or
> Ozzy
> and find him hysterical, as I'm sure we all do to
> some
> degree. It's all part of a process of becoming
> guarded in our opinions due to an overly critical,
> conceptually intelligent listenership looking to be
> into what's hip. It's funny how people demand
> honesty
> in music, yet contradict that need so obliviously
> with
> needless posturing. We live and create in odd 
> times,
> for sure.
> That said, Happy New Year!
> -Jack
> 
>
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> Then please explain "American Idiot" by Green Day.
> It seems to defy 
> everything above. Great record!
> 
> I think the 60s defined, 'Cause oriented' music.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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