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Re: OT- NAMM 2011

2011-01-22 by tron400

I have Harley Davidson eyeglass frames. They're really loud!

Bernie

--- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com, lsf5275@... wrote:
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> I hear Harley Davidson is going to make a bicycle with speakers on it that  
> play back the sounds of the big V-Twin when you pedal it around. It will 
> have  the Harley Davidson Logo on it and since it still sounds just like the 
> big bike  it must be a motorcycle.
>  
>  
> In a message dated 1/22/2011 1:44:51 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
> hessel@... writes:
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> It seems to me that, for any device claiming to have authentic MELLOTRON  
> sounds onboard, capturing the MELLOTRON medium (tape! ) and capturing the  
> characteristic replay mechanism is very important and indeed  what many  
> buyers would expect to hear from this device
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> Op 22 jan. 2011 om 18:18 heeft "Charles" <_charel196@..._ 
> (mailto:charel196@...) > het volgende  geschreven:
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>  
> not a valid comparison...a guitar relies on the wood and strings for  
> sound. The Mellotron doesn't rely on it's cabinet. Does the plexiglass tron  
> sound different from the wooden ones?
> The M4000D is a DIGITAL  MELLOTRON....not a tape playback Mellotron...but 
> is entitled to the name  nonetheless IMO since it is an offspring of the line 
> of instruments. As far  as tuning & denoising etc. ruining or changing the 
> sound....aren't these  the very things people have bitched about for 
> decades. Now someone fixes  them and you bitch about that! (shakes head....walking  
> away....smiling)
> Markus could offer non tuned/non-denoised versions of  the sounds as an 
> option.And if you can detect the missing bits of analog  tape sound in the 
> digital version you must have super hearing.
> Yeah...the  Classic Keys sounds aren't good. The E4K/Pinder CD sounds as 
> accurate as I  need. I even have samples from my old 400 in it (hissy & out of 
> tune)  every note sampled full length, non looped.
> 
> --- In _newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com_ 
> (mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com) ,  lsf5275@ wrote:
> >
> > Charles,
> > 
> > Suppose you  make a wooden thing with a neck and buttons on it instead of 
> >  strings. All of the sounds are digitized and you press buttons to get 
> the  
> > sounds. Is it a Guitar? It looks like a guitar, but is it a guitar?  No. 
> A 
> > Mellotron or Chamberlin were TAPE playback machines. Just  because you 
> make 
> > something that kinda looks like one and plays  digital representations of 
> the 
> > original tape samples doesn't make  them one.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In a message dated  1/22/2011 8:48:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> > charel196@  writes:
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> > 
> > I just don't get all  this "it's not a Mellotron" talk....the digital 
> unit 
> > is a logical  progression from tape replay and Ill bet Harry Chamberlin 
> would 
> >  have moved into this area if he were alive now. The whole point was 
> >  playing instrument sounds on a keyboard, not the tape technology (which 
> was  the 
> > only method available) 
> > If all sounds are from original  tapes and only last 8 seconds and are 
> the 
> > best digital  representations that can be done, personally to me it's a 
> new 
> >  Mellotron.It's the offspring of the tape machine. So what that it 
> doesn't  
> > use Chamberlin heads etc. With EQ'ing and processing I imagine you  can 
> get 
> > near 1000% close.
> > Heck I have used samples on my  albums (from my EMU E4K, EMAX 1, and 
> > CLASSIC KEYS) sometimes on the  same songs I used my real M400 (when I 
> had it) and 
> > I defy anyone to  tell me which is which. And the E4K was using the 
> Pinder 
> > CD. The  M4000D samples are said to be way beyond the Pinder CD in 
> quality. 
> >  I think it's totally anal to hang on to tape playback technology as the  
> > only thing that can be called "Mellotron" or "Chamberlin". The  4000D is 
> just a 
> > new and different model in the family tree....made  by the people who own 
> > the name and  masters.
> >
>

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