The Mellotron Group

I'm talking about the instrument, and it's characteristics 



Op 22 jan. 2011 om 20:09 heeft mattias <Mattias.olsson5@comhem.se> het volgende geschreven:

> I record my Mellotron digitally and it sounds pretty accurate.
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> Den 2011-01-22 19.45, skrev "Hessel Herder" <hessel@soundscape.nl>:
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> It seems to me that, for any device claiming to have authentic MELLOTRON sounds onboard, capturing the MELLOTRON medium (tape! ) and capturing the characteristic replay mechanism is very important and indeed  what many buyers would expect to hear from this device
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> Op 22 jan. 2011 om 18:18 heeft "Charles" <charel196@yahoo.com> het volgende geschreven:
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> not a valid comparison...a guitar relies on the wood and strings for sound. The Mellotron doesn't rely on it's cabinet. Does the plexiglass tron sound different from the wooden ones?
>  The M4000D is a DIGITAL MELLOTRON....not a tape playback Mellotron...but is entitled to the name nonetheless IMO since it is an offspring of the line of instruments. As far as tuning & denoising etc. ruining or changing the sound....aren't these the very things people have bitched about for decades. Now someone fixes them and you bitch about that! (shakes head....walking away....smiling)
>  Markus could offer non tuned/non-denoised versions of the sounds as an option.And if you can detect the missing bits of analog tape sound in the digital version you must have super hearing.
> Yeah...the Classic Keys sounds aren't good. The E4K/Pinder CD sounds as accurate as I need. I even have samples from my old 400 in it (hissy & out of tune) every note sampled full length, non looped.
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> --- In newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com <mailto:newmellotrongroup@yahoogroups.com> , lsf5275@... wrote:
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> > strings. All of the sounds are digitized and you press buttons to get the  
> > sounds. Is it a Guitar? It looks like a guitar, but is it a guitar? No. A  
> > Mellotron or Chamberlin were TAPE playback machines. Just because you make  
> > something that kinda looks like one and plays digital representations of the  
> > original tape samples doesn't make them one.
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> > I just don't get all this "it's not a Mellotron" talk....the digital unit  
> > is a logical progression from tape replay and Ill bet Harry Chamberlin would 
> >  have moved into this area if he were alive now. The whole point was 
> > playing  instrument sounds on a keyboard, not the tape technology (which was the 
> > only  method available) 
> > If all sounds are from original tapes and only last 8  seconds and are the 
> > best digital representations that can be done, personally  to me it's a new 
> > Mellotron.It's the offspring of the tape machine. So what  that it doesn't 
> > use Chamberlin heads etc. With EQ'ing and processing I imagine  you can get 
> > near 1000% close.
> > Heck I have used samples on my albums (from  my EMU E4K, EMAX 1, and 
> > CLASSIC KEYS) sometimes on the same songs I used my  real M400 (when I had it) and 
> > I defy anyone to tell me which is which. And the  E4K was using the Pinder 
> > CD. The M4000D samples are said to be way beyond the  Pinder CD in quality. 
> > I think it's totally anal to hang on to tape playback  technology as the 
> > only thing that can be called "Mellotron" or "Chamberlin".  The 4000D is just a 
> > new and different model in the family tree....made by the  people who own 
> > the name and masters.
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