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Re: The MOTM gig experience & synth porgrammer

Re: The MOTM gig experience & synth porgrammer

1999-07-16 by JWBarlow@xxx.xxx

Sounds like a great gig Dave! You should put up some MP3s. BTW, if you ever
do any shows in So. Cal., I'll stop by and add some "Pete Cosey type"
synth/guitar stylings.

Larry, I saw your interest in the Emerson preset switch programmer, and I
thought that a sequencer/programmer might be a more flexible (if expensive)
solution. I'm really imagining a ADC to uP to DAC out ala the fabeled MOAS.

JB

Re: The MOTM gig experience & synth porgrammer

1999-07-16 by J. Larry Hendry

> From: JWBarlow@...
> Larry, I saw your interest in the Emerson preset
> switch programmer, and I thought that a
> sequencer/programmer might be a more flexible
> (if expensive) solution. I'm really imagining a
> ADC to uP to DAC out ala the fabeled MOAS.
>
> JB

LH:
Oh, I really don't have a serious interest in such a beast. I have plenty
of synths that can store patches. I just thought that Paul's (not our
Paul S.) idea was interesting and could have used some more development. I
think something like that could easily be made to work but would certainly
be easier if you knew on the front end of the design work that you wanted
such a scheme. The scheme could even include patching and switches if you
were willing to bring all that stuff to some sort of card slot. However,
in all practical sense, I think something like that would be a hardware
nightmare with connections and such. Seems like people want to make
non-modulars out of modulars for some reason. Normal ?? We don't need no
stinkin' normal.

From: improv@... (Dave Trenkel)

> And there are certain other Doepfer aspects
> that I like, for instance, the oscillators have
> a rotary switch to set the octave.

LH:
I have to agree with your on this one Dave. When I did gig with an anaolg
lead synth a few years ago (Korg 770), I did appreciate the # 1 oscillator
having a rotary switch for oscillator selection. It seems to me that this
would be an easy modification for MOTM if you wanted one of your
oscillators to have this feature. Since the MOTM course pot is outboard
from the circuit board it could easily be replaced with a rotary switch and
appropriately sized resistors or trimmers. The Fine tune could still
supply frequency tweaking. If one was going to all this trouble why not
plan to add at least the popular 5th interval in between the octave
selections. I would not want ALL my oscillators made this way (I like the
flexibility of the continuous varible and like to manually sweep the pot of
the slave oscillator when doing hard sync). However, It might be nice to
change one VCO to this type operation. I have some 12 position two pole
rotary switches that would work perfectly in this situation. If I am
looking at them right, ten of the positions would align almost perfectly
with the 10 tick marks on the MOTM panel. The unmarked positions could be
used for another neat feature. What if the second pole in the rotary
switch was used to disconnect the rotary switch and place a lower
resistance value in the place of R3? So, your selection would be any of
the 10 presets (octaves or intervals) or varible with the fine control
having a broader range (more course, but not the "whole range") so you
would retain the option to use the oscillator in that continuosly varible
mode (over much of the oscillator's range but not all.

The one thing I guess I am probably missing is what effect changing the
value of R3 and opening R4 toward the rotarty switch might have on the
calibration of 1v/oct control. Anyhow, I am just speculating on how such
a modification might work. I would talk seriously to Paul before I
seriously considered such a mod. So, I guess in a long winded sort of way
I do agree with you Dave that this a a great feature for "live" work.

Larry Hendry

Re: The MOTM gig experience & synth porgrammer

1999-07-17 by improv@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)

>From: JWBarlow@...
>
>Sounds like a great gig Dave! You should put up some MP3s. BTW, if you ever
>do any shows in So. Cal., I'll stop by and add some "Pete Cosey type"
>synth/guitar stylings.
>
And likewise, if you're ever in Oregon. Miles' band with Pete Cosey is one
of my all-time faves.

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Dave Trenkel : improv@... : www.peak.org/~improv/

"...there will come a day when you won't have to use
gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in
your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper
type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em
together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em
together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire."
-Sun Ra
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Re: The MOTM gig experience & synth porgrammer

1999-07-17 by improv@xxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)

>From: "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@...>
>
>From: improv@... (Dave Trenkel)
>
>> And there are certain other Doepfer aspects
>> that I like, for instance, the oscillators have
>> a rotary switch to set the octave.
>
>LH:
>I have to agree with your on this one Dave. When I did gig with an anaolg
>lead synth a few years ago (Korg 770), I did appreciate the # 1 oscillator
>having a rotary switch for oscillator selection. It seems to me that this
>would be an easy modification for MOTM if you wanted one of your
>oscillators to have this feature.


Sounds like a cool idea (hey, if D. Doepfer can do it, Paul can probably do
it better :-)). I agree that I wouldn't want all of my Osc's like this, but
one or 2 that were meant for more "musical" usages would be cool. Of course
this sort of mod is beyond my minimal electronics skills at this point...

________________________________________________________
Dave Trenkel : improv@... : www.peak.org/~improv/

"...there will come a day when you won't have to use
gasoline. You'd simply take a cassette and put it in
your car, let it run. You'd have to have the proper
type of music. Like you take two sticks, put 'em
together, make fire. You take some notes and rub 'em
together - dum, dum, dum, dum - fire, cosmic fire."
-Sun Ra
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