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Re: [motm] I've got a tube up my a**

2000-10-31 by Paul Schreiber

I got a tube amp/overdrive BUILT AND TESTED! But the 250VDC power supply
had "lawsuit" written all over it! :)

Paul S.

----- Original Message -----
From: "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 10:27 PM
Subject: [motm] I've got a tube up my a**


> WARNING:  DIY content
>
> I've got a another DIY for MOTM project up my sleeve.  My present and
future
> DIY stuff is something that I never expect Paul to even THINK about
> releasing.  I mentioned  the "T" word to him once and he said, some
comment
> like, " no stinkin' tubes in my motm."  That is not an exact quote.
> However, it was sufficient for me to conclude that hell would freeze over
> just before the release of the first motm tube module.
>
> I like tubes for certain things.  I don't think they make a very good
synth.
> If you do, go pay mega-bucks for one of them "all-tube synths" and tell me
I
> am wrong.  But, I do like what happens to audio signals that are pushed
out
> past the linear portions of the tube's characteristic curves.  I like this
> gentle distortion and interesting harmonics that start to show up much
> better than the "cheap distortion" that is acheived by operating the
plates
> at very low voltages (aka PAiA tubehead).
>
> So, I have decided to start breadboarding and playing with a tube
overdrive
> circuit.  I was planning something simple, but would love to hear from any
> MOTM'ers that are into DIY and like tube stuff.  What I was planning was
to
> use some common dual triode like a 12AU7.  The audio would run through
both
> triodes.  The module I was planning would have 3 or so inputs that mix
> together (just a convienence feature).  There would be two outputs.  One I
> would call "warm" and the other "drive."  The warm output would have
passed
> through only one triode without any overdrive.  The second output would
come
> after the signal passes through both triodes with the second one providing
a
> significant amount of variable overdrive.
>
> Of course, the inputs and outputs would be buffered to interface with
normal
> signal levels.  The only control would be a "drive" control to provide for
> the amount of overdrive.  I was thinking about separate selector switches
on
> the input and output to select between "line" or 10v p-p" levels.
>
> Anyhow, right now, this is just a concept.  But, back in my school days, I
> did a lot of work with tubes and think I can make something like this
work.
> Obviously, a separate power supply would also be required for the higher
> voltages needed for decent tube operation.
>
> So, I would appreciate any ideas and suggestions off list from any DIY'ers
> think thingk something like this would be cool.
>
> Stooge Larry
>
> Disclaimer:  I am not an engineer.  I claim no expertise in circuit
design.
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> I have nothing to sell.
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [motm] I've got a tube up my a**

2000-10-31 by elhardt@aol.com

jlarryh@... writes:

>>So, I have decided to start breadboarding and playing with a tube overdrive 
circuit.<<

Since I don't know what your motivation is for building one as opposed to 
buying one, maybe I should just mention that you could buy an inexpensive 
little A.R.T. Tube MP to accomplish the same thing.  Or a Peavy Tube Warmer 
rackmount unit if you want to get even more sophisticated.

-Elhardt

I've got a tube up my a**

2000-10-31 by J. Larry Hendry

WARNING:  DIY content

I've got a another DIY for MOTM project up my sleeve.  My present and future
DIY stuff is something that I never expect Paul to even THINK about
releasing.  I mentioned  the "T" word to him once and he said, some comment
like, " no stinkin' tubes in my motm."  That is not an exact quote.
However, it was sufficient for me to conclude that hell would freeze over
just before the release of the first motm tube module.

I like tubes for certain things.  I don't think they make a very good synth.
If you do, go pay mega-bucks for one of them "all-tube synths" and tell me I
am wrong.  But, I do like what happens to audio signals that are pushed out
past the linear portions of the tube's characteristic curves.  I like this
gentle distortion and interesting harmonics that start to show up much
better than the "cheap distortion" that is acheived by operating the plates
at very low voltages (aka PAiA tubehead).

So, I have decided to start breadboarding and playing with a tube overdrive
circuit.  I was planning something simple, but would love to hear from any
MOTM'ers that are into DIY and like tube stuff.  What I was planning was to
use some common dual triode like a 12AU7.  The audio would run through both
triodes.  The module I was planning would have 3 or so inputs that mix
together (just a convienence feature).  There would be two outputs.  One I
would call "warm" and the other "drive."  The warm output would have passed
through only one triode without any overdrive.  The second output would come
after the signal passes through both triodes with the second one providing a
significant amount of variable overdrive.

Of course, the inputs and outputs would be buffered to interface with normal
signal levels.  The only control would be a "drive" control to provide for
the amount of overdrive.  I was thinking about separate selector switches on
the input and output to select between "line" or 10v p-p" levels.

Anyhow, right now, this is just a concept.  But, back in my school days, I
did a lot of work with tubes and think I can make something like this work.
Obviously, a separate power supply would also be required for the higher
voltages needed for decent tube operation.

So, I would appreciate any ideas and suggestions off list from any DIY'ers
think thingk something like this would be cool.

Stooge Larry

Disclaimer:  I am not an engineer.  I claim no expertise in circuit design.
I have nothing to sell.

Re: [motm] I've got a tube up my a**

2000-10-31 by J. Larry Hendry

OK, That's a surprise to me.  So, what does that mean?  If this is gonna be
a future MOTM module, I'll just forget my whole idea.  Tell us more...

Larry H
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----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] I've got a tube up my a**


I got a tube amp/overdrive BUILT AND TESTED! But the 250VDC power supply
had "lawsuit" written all over it! :)

Paul S.

Re: [motm] I've got a tube up my a**

2000-10-31 by Paul Schreiber

It means no way in HELL am I offering a module with a 250V power supply.

Paul S.

----- Original Message -----
From: "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: [motm] I've got a tube up my a**


> OK, That's a surprise to me.  So, what does that mean?  If this is gonna
be
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> a future MOTM module, I'll just forget my whole idea.  Tell us more...
>
> Larry H
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
> To: <motm@egroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [motm] I've got a tube up my a**
>
>
> I got a tube amp/overdrive BUILT AND TESTED! But the 250VDC power supply
> had "lawsuit" written all over it! :)
>
> Paul S.
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [motm] I've got a tube up my a**

2000-10-31 by J. Larry Hendry

Ah come on Paul.  Sounds tame to me (since I rarely mess with anything less
than 12,000 volts).  However, in all fairness, I think appropriate
construction methods can me used to make a 250 volt connection virtually
idiot proof.
LH

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [motm] I've got a tube up my a**


It means no way in HELL am I offering a module with a 250V power supply.

Paul S.

----- Original Message -----
From: "J. Larry Hendry" <jlarryh@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: [motm] I've got a tube up my a**


> OK, That's a surprise to me.  So, what does that mean?  If this is gonna
be
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> a future MOTM module, I'll just forget my whole idea.  Tell us more...
>
> Larry H
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
> To: <motm@egroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [motm] I've got a tube up my a**
>
>
> I got a tube amp/overdrive BUILT AND TESTED! But the 250VDC power supply
> had "lawsuit" written all over it! :)
>
> Paul S.
>
>
>
>
>
>

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