It pays to register early!
2000-10-30 by Paul Schreiber
Rex will have a tough time over this! www.serge.com ((not for the...errrr...modest folks out there!)) Paul S.
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It pays to register early!
RE: [motm] It pays to register early!
2000-10-30 by David Halliday
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RE: [motm] It pays to register early!
2000-10-30 by David Bivins
And not so good for work accounts. Anyone reading MOTM list from work may want to wait 'til they're home... and no one's around... it's the damn redirect URL.
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-----Original Message----- From: Paul Schreiber To: MOTM listserv Sent: 10/30/00 1:41 AM Subject: [motm] It pays to register early! Rex will have a tough time over this! www.serge.com ((not for the...errrr...modest folks out there!)) Paul S.
Re: [motm] It pays to register early!
2000-10-30 by Cary Roberts
>Rex will have a tough time over this! > >www.serge.com > >((not for the...errrr...modest folks out there!)) > >Paul S. Some businesses do not require a presence on the net to be sustain a healthy customer base. I think Rex's business is one of them. Not that it matters, as Rex has registered two domain names for his company. I think they are both obvious, so I'll let you all figure them out. And regarding domain names, most all were snatched up by the mid-90s, so any and all common names are long gone. Just try finding big name manufacturers on the web. Juniper Networks is not at juniper.com, nor junipernet.com, but at juniper.net. Sycamore is at sycamorenet.com. If billion dollar switch vendors can't obtain the rights to the preferred domain name, a small business certainly can't. -Cary
RE: [motm] It pays to register early!
2000-10-30 by Tkacs, Ken
Yeah, I just hit that. I'm sure a Cyberguard alert just went off in our base office. Oh well, I'm in IT... I was just testing the system... heh-heh. This is what you get for waiting six years to start thinking about the Internet. Not smart for a business.
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-----Original Message----- From: David Bivins [mailto:dbivins@...] Sent: Monday, 30 October, 2000 2:18 AM To: 'Paul Schreiber ' Cc: 'motm@egroups.com' Subject: RE: [motm] It pays to register early! And not so good for work accounts. Anyone reading MOTM list from work may want to wait 'til they're home... and no one's around... it's the damn redirect URL. -----Original Message----- From: Paul Schreiber To: MOTM listserv Sent: 10/30/00 1:41 AM Subject: [motm] It pays to register early! Rex will have a tough time over this! www.serge.com ((not for the...errrr...modest folks out there!)) Paul S.
RE: [motm] It pays to register early!
2000-10-30 by Tkacs, Ken
I respectfully disagree with this. Before I discovered MOTM, I scoured the Internet looking for Serge info. It wasn't there. I found only sites of users with photos saying "look at all the money I spent!!" I have the same, mistaken bias that many people now have-if a business is not on the Internet, they either went OUT of business, are too flaky or fly-by-night to set up a site, or just don't care to give their customers any information in the cheapest, most expected form of delivery of our time. Heck, it seems every eight year old kid has a web site these days... why would someone own a business and NOT put their catalog up on the Internet? It's simply self-destructive. "Nothing good can come of it."
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-----Original Message----- From: Cary Roberts [mailto:cary.roberts@...] Sent: Monday, 30 October, 2000 3:32 AM To: motm Subject: Re: [motm] It pays to register early! Some businesses do not require a presence on the net to be sustain a healthy customer base. I think Rex's business is one of them.
Re: [motm] It pays to register early!
2000-10-30 by Paul Schreiber
> > I have the same, mistaken bias that many people now have-if a business is > not on the Internet, they either went OUT of business, are too flaky or > fly-by-night to set up a site, or just don't care to give their customers > any information in the cheapest, most expected form of delivery of our time. > Heck, it seems every eight year old kid has a web site these days... why > would someone own a business and NOT put their catalog up on the Internet? > It's simply self-destructive. "Nothing good can come of it." Note that serge.com was registered in June of THIS year! I guess porn pays enough to get a few panels <snicker>. I tried to get motm.com, but that was taken by a mobile DJ company. The #1 way people 'find' MOTM is by Yahoo or links on other people's sites. They DON'T read magazines!! I spend over $1000 on ads without 1 comfirmed sale as a result. Ken is 100% correct: today it is *assumed* you have a website, and if you don't, it implies there is "something wrong" (not picking on Serge, but in general). Rex has www.soundtransform.com registered witha tag pag in place. Paul S.
RE: [motm] It pays to register early!
2000-10-30 by Tkacs, Ken
Toyota doesn't need a web site to sell cars... but guess what---they have one! And unless you already know that Serge synthesizers are "Sound Transform Systems," you aren't likely to look there off the top of your head. How are people new to this field supposed to find anything out? The magazines sure don't help like they did 20 years ago. "Word of mouth" is good when there are other mouths around. Me? I'm in a complete vacuum in Connecticut. Before I joined this list, I had NO ONE to talk to about modular synthesizers. That's why I'm so angry at myself for missing the NYC users meeting... it would have been a great chance to meet some of you. Even living almost literally in the shadow of Yale University, there is NOTHING going on around here, community wise, certainly not with the kind of music that I like. I hang around Starbucks all day, and no one has yet come over to me saying, "Hey fellah, have you checked out the new Absynthe Modular Synthesizer system? Everybody's talking about it!" Besides this list, my only connection with the outside world are the two all-but-useless-now magazines, "Keyboard" and "Electronic Musician," which are great if I want to read my 20,000,000th review of a virtual synthesizer or a "warm tube" VST plug in. Yawn. (Sorry I'm a little cranky, folks... it's Monday morning and the coffee is bad... couldn't make it to Starbucks this morning... I mean it though, I'm sick to death of virtual synths. They come out faster than my kid can scribble refrigerator drawings... how excited am I supposed to be?)
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-----Original Message----- From: Paul Schreiber [mailto:synth1@...] Sent: Monday, 30 October, 2000 9:16 AM To: motm@egroups.com Subject: Re: [motm] It pays to register early! Ken is 100% correct: today it is *assumed* you have a website, and if you don't, it implies there is "something wrong" (not picking on Serge, but in general). Rex has www.soundtransform.com registered with a tag page in place. Paul S.
Re: [motm] It pays to register early!
2000-10-30 by The Old Crow
On Mon, 30 Oct 2000, Cary Roberts wrote: > And regarding domain names, most all were snatched up by the mid-90s, > so any and all common names are long gone. Just try finding big > name manufacturers on the web. Juniper Networks is not at juniper.com, > nor junipernet.com, but at juniper.net. Sycamore is at sycamorenet.com. > If billion dollar switch vendors can't obtain the rights to the > preferred domain name, a small business certainly can't. No, a billion-dollar business CAN obtain the rights to a preferred domain name. I should relate the story of 'pikachu.com' sometime. Crow /**/
RE: [motm] It pays to register early!
2000-10-30 by Jeffrey Pontius
Ken, > "Word of mouth" is good when there are other mouths around. Me? I'm in a > complete vacuum in Connecticut. Before I joined this list, I had NO ONE to > talk to about modular synthesizers. This I can ID with. Living in a small Kansas town (where cowboy music rules, gack (that's just my biased opinion) and there are more cattle than people) except for one individual and the K-State Electronic Music Studio (that has an ARP 2500), virtually my only connection to e-music, modulars, ... is the web and the excellent AH and MOTM listserv's. Fortunately, my wife is kind enough to listen to my babbling about my 'noise making' hobby and periodically takes part in making 'noise.' Oh, Monday morning on the prairie (or close to it), Jeff
Re: [motm] It pays to register early!
2000-10-30 by J. Larry Hendry
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From: Cary Roberts [mailto:cary.roberts@...] Some businesses do not require a presence on the net to be sustain a healthy customer base. I think Rex's business is one of them. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tkacs, Ken <ken.tkacs@...> I respectfully disagree with this. Before I discovered MOTM, I scoured the Internet looking for Serge info. It wasn't there. I found only sites of users with photos saying "look at all the money I spent!!" I can see both sides of this. I certainly agree that net presence is not a requirement of business today. Some products with a niche appeal (like modular) could do fine with not much more than word of mouth. The question is where would Serge be with a web site. My guess is about the same place. Those of us interested found out what we wanterd without it. However.... I find it entertaining that all 3 addresses, motm.com , motm.net , and motm.org , are sites relating to musical stuff. However, I think motm.com is pornographic since it depicts those who have f**ked many musicians out of decent paying gigs by simply playing other people recorded music. Don't get me wrong. I'm not down on DJs. They have a place as part of certain music styles and on the radio. BUT, instead of live entertainment. No thanks. Larry (I've been to a lot more wedding receptions than weddings) Hendry
Re: [motm] It pays to register early!
2000-10-30 by ivancu@aol.com
In a message dated 10/30/00 12:33:12 AM, cary.roberts@... writes: << Some businesses do not require a presence on the net to be sustain a healthy customer base. I think Rex's business is one of them. >> I disagree to the extent that the web is the perfect place for a niche-market business to exist. Look at Synthesis Technology. His whole business exists on the web. Establishing that base he is now able to advertise in magazines. While Serge has been around a while the lack of information on the web, in my opinion, has significantly minimized the amount of business that they do. By the way, I purchased www.modsynth.com in June of this year. Its not live yet, but I do have plans... So if search around you can still find domain names. Ivan Schwartz
RE: [motm] It pays to register early!
2000-10-30 by Fahl, Romeo
Thanks for almost getting me fired! Please quote this e-mail when responding. Regards, Extensis Technical Support support@... (503) 274-7030 8am-5pm PST
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-----Original Message----- From: Paul Schreiber [mailto:synth1@...] Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 10:42 PM To: MOTM listserv Subject: [motm] It pays to register early! Rex will have a tough time over this! www.serge.com ((not for the...errrr...modest folks out there!)) Paul S.
RE: [motm] It pays to register early!
2000-10-31 by Tentochi
> ((not for the...errrr...modest folks out there!)) Pretty damn obvious to me what I was going to find. If you can get fired over that, you shouldn't be cruising the web on company time any way, right? Give it to be baby! Uh huh, uh huh! Pretty fly for a white guy. Shemp
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Fahl, Romeo [mailto:rfahl@...] > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 10:26 AM > To: 'motm@egroups.com' > Subject: RE: [motm] It pays to register early! > > > Thanks for almost getting me fired! > > Please quote this e-mail when responding. > > Regards, > Extensis Technical Support > support@... > (503) 274-7030 8am-5pm PST > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Schreiber [mailto:synth1@...] > Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 10:42 PM > To: MOTM listserv > Subject: [motm] It pays to register early! > > > Rex will have a tough time over this! > > www.serge.com > > ((not for the...errrr...modest folks out there!)) > > Paul S. > > > > > > > > > >
RE: [motm] It pays to register early!
2000-10-31 by Tentochi
http://www.sergemodular.com This is the other I presume.... Shemp
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Schreiber [mailto:synth1@...] > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 9:16 AM > To: motm@egroups.com > Subject: Re: [motm] It pays to register early! > > > > > > I have the same, mistaken bias that many people now have-if a > business is > > not on the Internet, they either went OUT of business, are too flaky or > > fly-by-night to set up a site, or just don't care to give their > customers > > any information in the cheapest, most expected form of delivery of our > time. > > Heck, it seems every eight year old kid has a web site these days... why > > would someone own a business and NOT put their catalog up on > the Internet? > > It's simply self-destructive. "Nothing good can come of it." > > Note that serge.com was registered in June of THIS year! I guess porn pays > enough to get a few panels <snicker>. > > I tried to get motm.com, but that was taken by a mobile DJ company. > > The #1 way people 'find' MOTM is by Yahoo or links on other > people's sites. > They DON'T read magazines!! I spend over $1000 on ads without 1 comfirmed > sale as a result. > > Ken is 100% correct: today it is *assumed* you have a website, and if you > don't, it implies there > is "something wrong" (not picking on Serge, but in general). Rex has > www.soundtransform.com > registered witha tag pag in place. > > Paul S. > > > > > >
RE: [motm] It pays to register early!
2000-10-31 by Tony Karavidas
Yes, since whois reports:
WHOIS information for sergemodular.com:
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC.
Organization: PROBE, REX
address: 1615 Broadway #1400
OAKLAND, CA 94612 US
Admin contact: PROBE, REX
email: sts7@...
phone: 510 4656896
fax: 510 4654656
Tech contact: WorldNIC Name Host
email: namehost@...
phone: 888 6429675
fax:
Nameservers: ns21.worldnic.com
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Tentochi [mailto:tentochi@...] > Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 7:58 PM > To: motm@egroups.com > Subject: RE: [motm] It pays to register early! > > > http://www.sergemodular.com > > This is the other I presume.... > > Shemp >