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Some of you have expressed interest in '420 kits without all of the wires.
Specifically, the RG-174 coax is what is missing.

So, if you want a kit missing the 4 little coax (there will be 1 long coax
in there,
but that is spoken for) send me an email.

BTW: just finished 5 min. ago calibrating and testing the finished product.
I am
building a '110 so I can make noise. It self-oscillates in LP mode, and acts
like a 4-octave VCO!
I got it to track whithin 1hz from 50Hz to 800Hz. Then it falls apart
because there is
no sophisticated circuitry as in the VCOs. But still sort of fun!. The max.
oscillation freq.
on the 1 prototype was 17Khz. Dave can zap squirrels as hoped for.

The reversing attenuator is much fun to play with, although I did a minor
boo-boo on the pcb
layout and you have to "cross" wires up to the front panel but other than
that it works 100%.

Lastly: I can get Bourns to make up cermet pots, like the blue conductive
plastic ones in the VCO/EG
with the solder lugs. This will releive terror in the heart of some folks
bending those itty bitty wires.
Of course, they want 8 weeks lead time! But the price is no different than
the pcb pots, so guessing
I can sell then at some later date I'll order some tomorrow.

Paul S.

So could you estimate for us a little more plainly, when could you ship 420
kits sans coax, versus if we wait for coax?

Rocket Man

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Schreiber [mailto:synth1@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 12:08 AM
> To: MOTM listserv
> Subject: [motm] Don't need to skinkin' wire!
>
>
> From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>
> Some of you have expressed interest in '420 kits without all of the wires.
> Specifically, the RG-174 coax is what is missing.
>
> So, if you want a kit missing the 4 little coax (there will be 1 long coax
> in there,
> but that is spoken for) send me an email.
>
> BTW: just finished 5 min. ago calibrating and testing the
> finished product.
> I am
> building a '110 so I can make noise. It self-oscillates in LP
> mode, and acts
> like a 4-octave VCO!
> I got it to track whithin 1hz from 50Hz to 800Hz. Then it falls apart
> because there is
> no sophisticated circuitry as in the VCOs. But still sort of
> fun!. The max.
> oscillation freq.
> on the 1 prototype was 17Khz. Dave can zap squirrels as hoped for.
>
> The reversing attenuator is much fun to play with, although I did a minor
> boo-boo on the pcb
> layout and you have to "cross" wires up to the front panel but other than
> that it works 100%.
>
> Lastly: I can get Bourns to make up cermet pots, like the blue conductive
> plastic ones in the VCO/EG
> with the solder lugs. This will releive terror in the heart of some folks
> bending those itty bitty wires.
> Of course, they want 8 weeks lead time! But the price is no different than
> the pcb pots, so guessing
> I can sell then at some later date I'll order some tomorrow.
>
> Paul S.
>
>
>
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Around July 6

Paul S.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Bradley <daveb@...>
To: motm@onelist.com <motm@onelist.com>
Date: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] Don't need to skinkin' wire!

>From: "Dave Bradley" <daveb@...>
>
>So could you estimate for us a little more plainly, when could you ship 420
>kits sans coax, versus if we wait for coax?
>
>Rocket Man
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paul Schreiber [mailto:synth1@...]
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 12:08 AM
>> To: MOTM listserv
>> Subject: [motm] Don't need to skinkin' wire!
>>
>>
>> From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>>
>> Some of you have expressed interest in '420 kits without all of the

wires.

>> Specifically, the RG-174 coax is what is missing.
>>
>> So, if you want a kit missing the 4 little coax (there will be 1 long

coax

>> in there,
>> but that is spoken for) send me an email.
>>
>> BTW: just finished 5 min. ago calibrating and testing the
>> finished product.
>> I am
>> building a '110 so I can make noise. It self-oscillates in LP
>> mode, and acts
>> like a 4-octave VCO!
>> I got it to track whithin 1hz from 50Hz to 800Hz. Then it falls apart
>> because there is
>> no sophisticated circuitry as in the VCOs. But still sort of
>> fun!. The max.
>> oscillation freq.
>> on the 1 prototype was 17Khz. Dave can zap squirrels as hoped for.
>>
>> The reversing attenuator is much fun to play with, although I did a minor
>> boo-boo on the pcb
>> layout and you have to "cross" wires up to the front panel but other than
>> that it works 100%.
>>
>> Lastly: I can get Bourns to make up cermet pots, like the blue conductive
>> plastic ones in the VCO/EG
>> with the solder lugs. This will releive terror in the heart of some folks
>> bending those itty bitty wires.
>> Of course, they want 8 weeks lead time! But the price is no different

than

>> the pcb pots, so guessing
>> I can sell then at some later date I'll order some tomorrow.
>>
>> Paul S.
>>
>>
>>
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Paul,
If I were a "bettin' man" I'd bet a lot of us can't stand a delay for such a
small obstacle. The Belden coax can't be that critical, any high quality 50
ohm coax should suffice, right? But then, if you have the wire most of us
should be able to do the stripping ourselves. Count me in I'll work it out.

>From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>Reply-To: motm@onelist.com
>To: "MOTM listserv" <motm@onelist.com>
>Subject: [motm] Don't need to skinkin' wire!
>Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 00:07:39 -0500
>
>From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>
>Some of you have expressed interest in '420 kits without all of the wires.
>Specifically, the RG-174 coax is what is missing.
>
>So, if you want a kit missing the 4 little coax (there will be 1 long coax
>in there,
>but that is spoken for) send me an email.
>
>BTW: just finished 5 min. ago calibrating and testing the finished product.
>I am
>building a '110 so I can make noise. It self-oscillates in LP mode, and
>acts
>like a 4-octave VCO!
>I got it to track whithin 1hz from 50Hz to 800Hz. Then it falls apart
>because there is
>no sophisticated circuitry as in the VCOs. But still sort of fun!. The max.
>oscillation freq.
>on the 1 prototype was 17Khz. Dave can zap squirrels as hoped for.
>
>The reversing attenuator is much fun to play with, although I did a minor
>boo-boo on the pcb
>layout and you have to "cross" wires up to the front panel but other than
>that it works 100%.
>
>Lastly: I can get Bourns to make up cermet pots, like the blue conductive
>plastic ones in the VCO/EG
>with the solder lugs. This will releive terror in the heart of some folks
>bending those itty bitty wires.
>Of course, they want 8 weeks lead time! But the price is no different than
>the pcb pots, so guessing
>I can sell then at some later date I'll order some tomorrow.
>
>Paul S.
>
>
>
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Thanks for the info Paul! Since I'm (STILL!!!) using those bananas, the coax
isn't a concern. Though I've thought about getting a spool of it because it
looks as though it would also make a good cable for inside electric guitars
-- 1001 uses. Send the 420 out as soon as you can!

BTW, as I've said many times in the past, the pre-stripped/tinned wire is
like icing on the cake for such great kits -- most certainly the easiest kits
I've built! But occasionally I'll eat cake without icing; like, when I'm
hungry for filters!

As for the Bourns pots, I'd definitely like to see you use these for the
flying wire pots in the future kits -- I hate dealing with those PCB leads!
Hate it!

John B.
I didn't mean to start a "no wire revolution" though.

In a message dated 6/15/99 9:01:00 PM, synth1@... writes:

>Some of you have expressed interest in '420 kits without all of the wires.
>Specifically, the RG-174 coax is what is missing.



>Lastly: I can get Bourns to make up cermet pots, like the blue conductive
>plastic ones in the VCO/EG
>with the solder lugs. This will releive terror in the heart of some folks
>bending those itty bitty wires.