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Re: Clock Divider ideas

Re: Clock Divider ideas

1999-05-26 by Dave Bradley

As usual, I have to chime in and ask for weird stuff...

How about the ability to divide by non binary values - divide by 3, 5, 7
etc. gives you the ability to set up and/or sequence poly rhythms easily.

(Ducking)

Dave Bradley
Principal Software Engineer
Engineering Animation, Inc.
daveb@...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Schreiber [mailto:synth1@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 10:09 PM
> To: motm@onelist.com
> Subject: Re: [motm] New modules Status
>
>
> From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>
>
> >These all sound great! I'm interested in what your thinking of
> for both the
> >Lag and Divider modules.
> >
>
>
>
> The clock divider is "funny-looking" as in the simple form, has no pots
> (only jacks) and switches.
>
> You have an INput, that is set with a LM311 for 2.4V switchpoint (TTL
> compatible). Then, probably
> a little Xilinx pre-programmed 44 pin FPGA with symmetrical
> dividers from 2
> to 10. A switch
> to set outputs from 0-5V or +-5V (TTL mode or waveform mode). Or I could
> get fancy and have
> a symm/non-symm function. In non-symm, you get 1 pulse out only at the
> divide rate. In symm, you get a 50%
> duty cycle square wave at the divide rate.
>
> So, it's like half of a '120 with individual outs.
>
> The circuit is simple: a LM311, the Xilinx part (PLCC in a socket) and 2
> quad op amps, 9 jacks, 1 switch. 1U wide.
>
> The lag can be simple or complex, depending on price and the skill of the
> designer.
>
> >>Then 2 more filters (Moog and SEM) and THEN work on Baby MOAS Sequencer.
> >
> >>I am against VC-Q in general because it severly degrades CV feedthrough.
> >>I
> >>may do
> >>Thomas Henry's 3320-based LP/All-pass filter with VC-Q. The CEM
> chips are
> >>trimmed
> >>by zener-zap to minimize CV feedthrough, and I have access to 12,000 of
> >>them!
> >
> >
> >Bummer! I figgered there was a reason you'd not mentioned VCQ in
> the past.
> >VCQ is really powerful though so I'd like to see you look into the 3320
> idea
> >-- I've been using some 3320s with their VCQ to great success.
>
>
>
> I may have VC-Q on the Moog filter if it doesn't muddy up the sound too
> much.
>
> >
> >And after all those modules....maybe... the fabulous MOTM Ribbon
> >controller????
>
>
>
> Errr......don't hold your breath.
>
> Paul S.
>
>
>
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Re: Clock Divider ideas

1999-05-26 by Paul Schreiber

Errr...I said that. It divides from 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10.

Paul S.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Bradley <daveb@...>
To: motm@onelist.com <motm@onelist.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [motm] Clock Divider ideas


>From: "Dave Bradley" <daveb@...>
>
>As usual, I have to chime in and ask for weird stuff...
>
>How about the ability to divide by non binary values - divide by 3, 5, 7
>etc. gives you the ability to set up and/or sequence poly rhythms easily.
>
>(Ducking)
>
>Dave Bradley
>Principal Software Engineer
>Engineering Animation, Inc.
>daveb@...
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Paul Schreiber [mailto:synth1@...]
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 10:09 PM
>> To: motm@onelist.com
>> Subject: Re: [motm] New modules Status
>>
>>
>> From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>>
>>
>> >These all sound great! I'm interested in what your thinking of
>> for both the
>> >Lag and Divider modules.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> The clock divider is "funny-looking" as in the simple form, has no pots
>> (only jacks) and switches.
>>
>> You have an INput, that is set with a LM311 for 2.4V switchpoint (TTL
>> compatible). Then, probably
>> a little Xilinx pre-programmed 44 pin FPGA with symmetrical
>> dividers from 2
>> to 10. A switch
>> to set outputs from 0-5V or +-5V (TTL mode or waveform mode). Or I
could
>> get fancy and have
>> a symm/non-symm function. In non-symm, you get 1 pulse out only at the
>> divide rate. In symm, you get a 50%
>> duty cycle square wave at the divide rate.
>>
>> So, it's like half of a '120 with individual outs.
>>
>> The circuit is simple: a LM311, the Xilinx part (PLCC in a socket) and 2
>> quad op amps, 9 jacks, 1 switch. 1U wide.
>>
>> The lag can be simple or complex, depending on price and the skill of the
>> designer.
>>
>> >>Then 2 more filters (Moog and SEM) and THEN work on Baby MOAS
Sequencer.
>> >
>> >>I am against VC-Q in general because it severly degrades CV
feedthrough.
>> >>I
>> >>may do
>> >>Thomas Henry's 3320-based LP/All-pass filter with VC-Q. The CEM
>> chips are
>> >>trimmed
>> >>by zener-zap to minimize CV feedthrough, and I have access to 12,000 of
>> >>them!
>> >
>> >
>> >Bummer! I figgered there was a reason you'd not mentioned VCQ in
>> the past.
>> >VCQ is really powerful though so I'd like to see you look into the 3320
>> idea
>> >-- I've been using some 3320s with their VCQ to great success.
>>
>>
>>
>> I may have VC-Q on the Moog filter if it doesn't muddy up the sound too
>> much.
>>
>> >
>> >And after all those modules....maybe... the fabulous MOTM Ribbon
>> >controller????
>>
>>
>>
>> Errr......don't hold your breath.
>>
>> Paul S.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> With more than 17 million e-mails exchanged daily...
>> http://www.onelist.com
>> ...ONElist is THE place where the world talks!
>>
>
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Re: Clock Divider ideas

1999-05-26 by Paul Schreiber

And last but not least, ....6!

Paul S.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
To: motm@onelist.com <motm@onelist.com>
Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [motm] Clock Divider ideas


>From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>
>Errr...I said that. It divides from 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10.
>
>Paul S.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dave Bradley <daveb@...>
>To: motm@onelist.com <motm@onelist.com>
>Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 8:27 AM
>Subject: Re: [motm] Clock Divider ideas
>
>
>>From: "Dave Bradley" <daveb@...>
>>
>>As usual, I have to chime in and ask for weird stuff...
>>
>>How about the ability to divide by non binary values - divide by 3, 5, 7
>>etc. gives you the ability to set up and/or sequence poly rhythms easily.
>>
>>(Ducking)
>>
>>Dave Bradley
>>Principal Software Engineer
>>Engineering Animation, Inc.
>>daveb@...
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Paul Schreiber [mailto:synth1@...]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 10:09 PM
>>> To: motm@onelist.com
>>> Subject: Re: [motm] New modules Status
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>>>
>>>
>>> >These all sound great! I'm interested in what your thinking of
>>> for both the
>>> >Lag and Divider modules.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The clock divider is "funny-looking" as in the simple form, has no pots
>>> (only jacks) and switches.
>>>
>>> You have an INput, that is set with a LM311 for 2.4V switchpoint (TTL
>>> compatible). Then, probably
>>> a little Xilinx pre-programmed 44 pin FPGA with symmetrical
>>> dividers from 2
>>> to 10. A switch
>>> to set outputs from 0-5V or +-5V (TTL mode or waveform mode). Or I
>could
>>> get fancy and have
>>> a symm/non-symm function. In non-symm, you get 1 pulse out only at the
>>> divide rate. In symm, you get a 50%
>>> duty cycle square wave at the divide rate.
>>>
>>> So, it's like half of a '120 with individual outs.
>>>
>>> The circuit is simple: a LM311, the Xilinx part (PLCC in a socket) and 2
>>> quad op amps, 9 jacks, 1 switch. 1U wide.
>>>
>>> The lag can be simple or complex, depending on price and the skill of
the
>>> designer.
>>>
>>> >>Then 2 more filters (Moog and SEM) and THEN work on Baby MOAS
>Sequencer.
>>> >
>>> >>I am against VC-Q in general because it severly degrades CV
>feedthrough.
>>> >>I
>>> >>may do
>>> >>Thomas Henry's 3320-based LP/All-pass filter with VC-Q. The CEM
>>> chips are
>>> >>trimmed
>>> >>by zener-zap to minimize CV feedthrough, and I have access to 12,000
of
>>> >>them!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Bummer! I figgered there was a reason you'd not mentioned VCQ in
>>> the past.
>>> >VCQ is really powerful though so I'd like to see you look into the 3320
>>> idea
>>> >-- I've been using some 3320s with their VCQ to great success.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I may have VC-Q on the Moog filter if it doesn't muddy up the sound too
>>> much.
>>>
>>> >
>>> >And after all those modules....maybe... the fabulous MOTM Ribbon
>>> >controller????
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Errr......don't hold your breath.
>>>
>>> Paul S.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> With more than 17 million e-mails exchanged daily...
>>> http://www.onelist.com
>>> ...ONElist is THE place where the world talks!
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Clock Divider ideas

1999-05-26 by Dave Bradley

Cool! But what if I want .... 11!

Just kidding.

Rocket Man

> From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
>
> And last but not least, ....6!
>
> Paul S.
>
> >From: "Paul Schreiber" <synth1@...>
> >
> >Errr...I said that. It divides from 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10.
> >
> >Paul S.
> >
> >
> >>From: "Dave Bradley" <daveb@...>
> >>
> >>As usual, I have to chime in and ask for weird stuff...
> >>
> >>How about the ability to divide by non binary values - divide by 3, 5, 7
> >>etc. gives you the ability to set up and/or sequence poly
> rhythms easily.
> >>

Re: Clock Divider ideas

1999-05-26 by J. Larry Hendry

> From: "Dave Bradley" <daveb@...>
>
> Cool! But what if I want .... 11!
>
> Just kidding.
>
> Rocket Man

Oh sure Dave. I bet all your volume controls go to 11 too. <grin>

LH

Re: Clock Divider ideas

1999-05-26 by Andrew Schrock

On Wed, 26 May 1999, Dave Bradley wrote:
> From: "Dave Bradley" <daveb@...>
>
> Cool! But what if I want .... 11!
>
> Just kidding.
>
> Rocket Man

You laugh, but actually one of Morton Subotnicks fave tricks was to set
the steps for his dual buchla sequencers for 7 and 11 for cool
almost-nonperiodic sequences.

Andrew

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