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OT - MP3 encoding programs.

2000-06-30 by J. Larry Hendry

OK, Thanks David.  I have this MP3 encoder thing working OK.  Now, some of
you with some experience, please help me with recommended options.  It looks
as if there are 3 different types of codec.  I went with the Ec98Enc one and
it worked fine.  The bit rate seems to make a huge difference.  256 K
produced something decent, and compressed the file to about 20% of the wav.
128 K bitrate produced very noticeable distortion compressing the file to
about 10% size.  And, what is this type 1, 2, and 3 thing anyhow?

So, now I have this pitch shifting sample down to a 450K MP3 file.  If
anyone wants it, let me know.  My apologies to those who have already
suffered through the 2.5 Meg WAV file.  At least I learned something today.

Larry H.

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----- Original Message -----
From: <dbivins@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>; Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] DIY - interval switch, audio sample

Ech, sharpen your teeth first on the very FREE Electronic Cosmo. Go to

http://ec2000.xperiment.net/projects.html

and you'll find a dead-simple mp3 encoder for Windows (only, sorry if that's
a drag), including 3 codecs, plenty of options, rivalling ones that cost
money. Save yer bux fer MOTM!
I like it better than the Xing program anyway.

David.

RE: [motm] OT - MP3 encoding programs.

2000-06-30 by Tony Karavidas

Try encoding in the Windows WMA format. The "claim" better fidelity at all
bit rates. Most players can play WMA files.

I don't know if you have to have MP3 files, but it would be worth checking
out.

Tony

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. Larry Hendry [mailto:jlarryh@...]
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 11:37 PM
> To: motm@egroups.com
> Subject: [motm] OT - MP3 encoding programs.
>
>
> OK, Thanks David.  I have this MP3 encoder thing working OK.  Now, some of
> you with some experience, please help me with recommended
> options.  It looks
> as if there are 3 different types of codec.  I went with the
> Ec98Enc one and
> it worked fine.  The bit rate seems to make a huge difference.  256 K
> produced something decent, and compressed the file to about 20%
> of the wav.
> 128 K bitrate produced very noticeable distortion compressing the file to
> about 10% size.  And, what is this type 1, 2, and 3 thing anyhow?
>
> So, now I have this pitch shifting sample down to a 450K MP3 file.  If
> anyone wants it, let me know.  My apologies to those who have already
> suffered through the 2.5 Meg WAV file.  At least I learned
> something today.
>
> Larry H.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <dbivins@...>
> To: <motm@egroups.com>; Paul Schreiber <synth1@...>
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 10:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [motm] DIY - interval switch, audio sample
>
>
>
> Ech, sharpen your teeth first on the very FREE Electronic Cosmo. Go to
>
> http://ec2000.xperiment.net/projects.html
>
> and you'll find a dead-simple mp3 encoder for Windows (only,
> sorry if that's
> a drag), including 3 codecs, plenty of options, rivalling ones that cost
> money. Save yer bux fer MOTM!
> I like it better than the Xing program anyway.
>
> David.
>
>
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RE: [motm] OT - MP3 encoding programs.

2000-06-30 by Brousseau, Paul E (Paul)

Not to start an OS war... but I'd perfer that anyone encoding samples stick
to the MP3 format-- we know that just about every OS out there has an MP3
player.  I don't know if this is true for WMA.  Are there players for Linux,
BeOS, and MacOS?  I'd hate to have someone on a different OS miss the chance
to hear a sample of Mr. Hendry's surely kick-ass work.  Just an opinion--
thanks!!  :)

--PBr

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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Tony Karavidas [SMTP:tony@...]
> Sent:	Friday, June 30, 2000 12:15 PM
> To:	motm@egroups.com
> Subject:	RE: [motm] OT - MP3 encoding programs.
> 
> Try encoding in the Windows WMA format. The "claim" better fidelity at all
> bit rates. Most players can play WMA files.
> 
> I don't know if you have to have MP3 files, but it would be worth checking
> out.
>

Re: [motm] OT - MP3 encoding programs.

2000-07-01 by J. Larry Hendry

> From: Brousseau, Paul E (Paul) <noise@...>
> Not to start an OS war... but I'd perfer that anyone encoding
> samples stick to the MP3 format-- we know that just about
> every OS out there has an MP3 player.

Well, I hate compression and encoding all together.  I like full-bandwidth
uncompressed files.  However, given the need to reduces size for this
medium, I concur this MP3 thing seems well entrenched.  However, like all
"format wars" the most popular and successful may not be the best
technically.  Anyone remember the Sony Betamax?

> I'd hate to have someone on a different OS miss the chance
> to hear a sample of Mr. Hendry's surely kick-ass work.

My dad wanted to know what kick ass work you were refering to since he is
the only one in the family ever called "Mr. Hendry."  <huge stoogely
snicker>

LH

Re: [motm] OT - MP3 encoding programs.

2000-07-01 by elhardt@aol.com

jlarryh@... writes:

>>However, given the need to reduces size for this medium, I concur this MP3 
thing seems well entrenched.  However, like all "format wars" the most 
popular and successful may not be the best technically.  Anyone remember the 
Sony Betamax?<<

MP3 is the only audio compression that gives a significant compression ratio 
to allow practical use on the internet.  That's why it's entrenched.  It's 
the audio equivalent of JPEG for pictures.  You could use a lossless 
compression that reduces a file by 30%, but that doesn't help much.

-Elhardt

Re: [motm] OT - MP3 encoding programs.

2000-07-01 by Nathan Alan Hunsicker

Here it goes, this is a graphical representation of MP3 degradation. The
wav file is a perfect 500Hz Square wave. The other files are mp3's at
the bitrate noted behind each file name. Pretty scary what this
compression adds to your files. -Nate

Re: [motm] OT - MP3 encoding programs.

2000-07-01 by J. Larry Hendry

Cool Nate.  Thanks for testing and sharing.
LH

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----- Original Message -----
From: Nathan Alan Hunsicker <nate@...>
To: <motm@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [motm] OT - MP3 encoding programs.

Here it goes, this is a graphical representation of MP3 degradation. The
wav file is a perfect 500Hz Square wave. The other files are mp3's at
the bitrate noted behind each file name. Pretty scary what this
compression adds to your files. -Nate

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