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OT: Re: [motm] Faux Hammonds - rant!

OT: Re: [motm] Faux Hammonds - rant!

2000-06-24 by Nathan Alan Hunsicker

since i myself cannot afford an b-3 c-3 or c-2 i have been reduced to
looking at m-3's. I love the hammond sound and even if I can't have it
in full b-3 splendor I'm willing to compromise to a lesser model. The
one aspect I can't understand is percussion. I've played a c-3  that has
it, and a c-2 that does not. I've heard that this in an installable
option, how much work is involved in making this mod, is it a part from
hammond? are they ultra rare? does it fit a m-3? can i build this
circuit myself? maybe some of the hammond experts can shed some light on
this for me. if you don't want to email the list you can email me
privately. -nate

Dave Bradley wrote:
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> > Add a Leslie simulator to the MOTM wish list. Especially since
> > the US prices
> > seem to be double what JH has seen in Europe.
> >
> >
> > Hammond simulation is a science in fact.  And,
> > >not easily done with any type of synth.  You just need too many
> > oscillators
> > >to properly do the job.
> >
> >
> > Maybe another MOTM module? Would this be worthwhile?
> >
>
> Sorry folks. Waste of time. I've tried them all. I've searched for the
>
> ultimate portable giggable Hammond solution since I first started
> lugging
> one 30 years ago. I've built chopped Hammonds, chopped Leslies, owned
> Korg
> CX-3's Roland VKs, etc etc etc. I've played all the current crop of
> modelled
> emulators. The sampled ones I can play for about 30 seconds before the
> out
> of tune upper partials drive me crazy. The fully modelled generator
> ones I
> can play awhile longer, but it's like playing your little old aunt's
> antique
> Baldwin in the end. It's like kissing your sister. It's like virtual
> synthesis versus MOTM!
>
> If you are satisfied to play a few pad chords in a supporting role in
> a loud
> rock situation, by all means use a clone.
>
> If you want be an organ player, not a keyboardist or synthesist, it's
> gotta
> have full polyphony when you mash your forearm down. It's gotta scream
> when
> you do a rip up the keyboard to high C and stomp the Leslie switch.
> It's
> gotta whisper when you back off and take you to church. Cool jazz and
> hot
> rock. It's gotta make you smile and say AAAHHHH when you pull out the
> bottom
> 3 drawbars and just play simple triads. It's gotta smirk  and say "Is
> that
> all you got suckah?!" in response to you losing control and trying to
> beat
> the snot out of it in the heat of battle. It's gotta show you who's
> boss by
> cutting your forearm wide open when you break a key from doing a rip
> too
> hard. It's gotta have SOUL. You don't play a Hammond, you are
> permitted to
> worship it. You don't own a Hammond, you are it's caretaker. Accept no
>
> substitutes. You have been warned!
>
> MOTM and Hammond, a classic combination.
>
> Moe
> 1958 custom B-3, 1959 Blonde C-3
>
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>
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>

Re: OT: Re: [motm] Faux Hammonds - rant!

2000-06-24 by ivancu@aol.com

In a message dated 06/24/2000 3:27:07 PM, nate@... writes:

<< since i myself cannot afford an b-3 c-3 or c-2 i have been reduced to
looking at m-3's. >>

M-3's are a great machine, IMHO.  They DO have percussion.  The M model (no 
number suffix) does not have percussion.  While some may argue it isn't a 
B-3, I think an M-3 has a great sound to it and is a good "baby brother" 
version of a B-3.

I too will probably get an M-3 when I finally get settled into my new place 
in Seattle.  Very reasonable on eBay and the want-ads.

Ivan

RE: Re: [motm] Faux Hammonds - rant!

2000-06-26 by Dave Bradley

If you can't afford a console, the M-3 is the only spinet model worth
considering. It already has percussion built in.

Dave Bradley
Principal Software Engineer
Engineering Animation, Inc.
daveb@...
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nathan Alan Hunsicker [mailto:nate@...]
> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 2:29 PM
> To: motm@egroups.com
> Subject: OT: Re: [motm] Faux Hammonds - rant!
>
>
> since i myself cannot afford an b-3 c-3 or c-2 i have been reduced to
> looking at m-3's. I love the hammond sound and even if I can't have it
> in full b-3 splendor I'm willing to compromise to a lesser model. The
> one aspect I can't understand is percussion. I've played a c-3  that has
> it, and a c-2 that does not. I've heard that this in an installable
> option, how much work is involved in making this mod, is it a part from
> hammond? are they ultra rare? does it fit a m-3? can i build this
> circuit myself? maybe some of the hammond experts can shed some light on
> this for me. if you don't want to email the list you can email me
> privately. -nate
>
> Dave Bradley wrote:
>
> > > Add a Leslie simulator to the MOTM wish list. Especially since
> > > the US prices
> > > seem to be double what JH has seen in Europe.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hammond simulation is a science in fact.  And,
> > > >not easily done with any type of synth.  You just need too many
> > > oscillators
> > > >to properly do the job.
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe another MOTM module? Would this be worthwhile?
> > >
> >
> > Sorry folks. Waste of time. I've tried them all. I've searched for the
> >
> > ultimate portable giggable Hammond solution since I first started
> > lugging
> > one 30 years ago. I've built chopped Hammonds, chopped Leslies, owned
> > Korg
> > CX-3's Roland VKs, etc etc etc. I've played all the current crop of
> > modelled
> > emulators. The sampled ones I can play for about 30 seconds before the
> > out
> > of tune upper partials drive me crazy. The fully modelled generator
> > ones I
> > can play awhile longer, but it's like playing your little old aunt's
> > antique
> > Baldwin in the end. It's like kissing your sister. It's like virtual
> > synthesis versus MOTM!
> >
> > If you are satisfied to play a few pad chords in a supporting role in
> > a loud
> > rock situation, by all means use a clone.
> >
> > If you want be an organ player, not a keyboardist or synthesist, it's
> > gotta
> > have full polyphony when you mash your forearm down. It's gotta scream
> > when
> > you do a rip up the keyboard to high C and stomp the Leslie switch.
> > It's
> > gotta whisper when you back off and take you to church. Cool jazz and
> > hot
> > rock. It's gotta make you smile and say AAAHHHH when you pull out the
> > bottom
> > 3 drawbars and just play simple triads. It's gotta smirk  and say "Is
> > that
> > all you got suckah?!" in response to you losing control and trying to
> > beat
> > the snot out of it in the heat of battle. It's gotta show you who's
> > boss by
> > cutting your forearm wide open when you break a key from doing a rip
> > too
> > hard. It's gotta have SOUL. You don't play a Hammond, you are
> > permitted to
> > worship it. You don't own a Hammond, you are it's caretaker. Accept no
> >
> > substitutes. You have been warned!
> >
> > MOTM and Hammond, a classic combination.
> >
> > Moe
> > 1958 custom B-3, 1959 Blonde C-3
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
>
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