Yahoo Groups archive

MOTM

Index last updated: 2026-04-05 20:20 UTC

Thread

Fw: [AH] SAGE mystery solved

Fw: [AH] SAGE mystery solved

2000-05-24 by Paul Schreiber

Fellow MOTM user Ken E. shows off his rendering proweress! Clink on the
second link.

Now if he would be so kind as to do the same for MOTM... :)

Paul S.


> The SAGE project is complete.  The experiment is over.  I have all the
> information I need.  For those of you who want a more detailed look at how
> and why it was done, you can go to the following two links:
>
> http://hometown.aol.com/elhardt/Sage.html
>
> http://home.att.net/~teri43/sage2.htm
>
> I started to put stuff up on the first link but I ran into AOL
limitations.
> So most of the stuff is on the second link.  Now is your chance to pick up
> clean and/or bigger pictures and see a brief overview of how I did it.
>
> For those too lazy to go there, here is some brief information.
>
> Software used for Sage images:
> -------------------------------------------
> FormZ used for 3D modeling and rendering the Sage (Mac)
> Photoshop used for 2D painting and retouching  (Mac)
> Corel Draw used for panel diagram, texture map and ad text (PC)
>
> Hardware used for audio demos:
> -------------------------------------------
> Roland JP-8080 and MPX-100 for reverb (synth used for the 3 resynthesis
and
> Tomita demos)
> Roland VP-70, two MXR stereo chorus units and MPX-100 (used for Vocal
> Processor demo)
>
> Most of the talk (about 170 postings) was done on Sonic State's
> www.the-gas-station.com message board.  If the Sage were real, it might
have
> found about three to four buyers.  Other than the initial "Wow" type
> comments, Sage interest on Analog Heaven and elsewhere was virtually zero.
> Access can repackage the Virus B for the third time, add blue LEDs and
synth
> message lists get filled up with talk about it.  But give people something
> new and spectacular and most couldn't care less.  This could be important
> info for a synth manufacturer. "Don't create a synth like the Sage."
>
> I put some hints into the last image of the Sage to let people know it was
a
> fake.  But everybody overlooked them.  Just for interest, here they are:
>
> (1) I gave you a key to unlock one problem.  That was the panel diagram.
It
> told you that the knob being turned in the close up Sage picture is not
the
> "Band Shift" knob, but the Level knob.
>
> (2) If you got that far, then you passed over another problem.  I don't
know
> of any synth LED displays that have proportionally spaced type.  As you
can
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> see, the "I" in the word shift takes up less room than other characters.
>
> (3) And the keyboard is totally different than the previous pictures.  The
> white keys should have been more like a piano style keyboard.
>
> It was fun and entertaining hovering above and looking in on different
> message boards.  And fun to mingle amongst you (Gas Station board) using
> different false names.  A couple of you even speculated that that might be
> the case.  Your suspicions were correct.
>
> Remember to hit the above two sites if you want to know how everything was
> faked.

RE: [motm]SAGE mystery solved - A new use

2000-10-04 by Tony Karavidas

Hi all,

Remember the crafty Sage synth a few months back?

Well today I'm reading the October 2000 issue of Keyboard and the "Keyboard
of the Month" is some vaporware from Holland!

Get this: Keyboard is now accepting "imaginary keyboards" for the keyboard
of the month spot.

Jeezzzz

RE: [motm]SAGE mystery solved - A new use

2000-10-04 by improv@peak.org

>Hi all,
>
>Remember the crafty Sage synth a few months back?
>
>Well today I'm reading the October 2000 issue of Keyboard and the "Keyboard
>of the Month" is some vaporware from Holland!
>
>Get this: Keyboard is now accepting "imaginary keyboards" for the keyboard
>of the month spot.
>
>Jeezzzz

Yeah, and the synth in KB didn't look nearly as cool as the Sage...

____________________________________________
Dave Trenkel : improv@...
Minus Web Site: http://listen.to/minusmusic
Minus MP3's: http://www.mp3.com/-minus-
____________________________________________

Re: [motm]SAGE mystery solved - A new use

2000-10-05 by elhardt@aol.com

(Tony Karavidas) writes:

>>Get this: Keyboard is now accepting "imaginary keyboards" for the keyboard 
of the month spot.<<

Actually Keyboard has had at least one other non-existant synth.  It wasn't a 
hoax, but someone did a 3D rendering of a synth in the style of an iMac.  
Keyboard magazine is desperate for pictures, and one month they didn't even 
have a "Keyboard of the Month" and then they were begging for entries another 
month.  I figured I might send in the Sage for the hell of it.  But now it's 
confirmed that they would actually have run it.

improv@... writes:
>>Yeah, and the synth in KB didn't look nearly as cool as the Sage.<<

I'll second that.  That other one isn't even a 3D computer model, but was 
pretty well done none the less.

-Elhardt

Re: [motm]SAGE mystery solved - A new use

2000-10-05 by ivancu@aol.com

In a message dated 10/4/00 11:23:12 PM, elhardt@... writes:

<<  I figured I might send in the Sage for the hell of it. >>

What ever happened to the website that showed the "making of the Sage" in 
detail?

Ivan

Re: [motm]SAGE mystery solved - A new use

2000-10-05 by jhaible@t-online.de

> Keyboard magazine is desperate for pictures, and one month they didn't
even
> have a "Keyboard of the Month" and then they were begging for entries
another
> month.

Who knows ? I offered them to take a look at my home built stuff once,
but never got a reply. Either they are too lazy to follow a link (I did not
send large photos, just the web adress), or my stuff doesn't qualify
for their contest.

JH

Re: [motm]SAGE mystery solved - A new use

2000-10-06 by elhardt@aol.com

jhaible@... writes:

>>Who knows ? I offered them to take a look at my home built stuff once, but 
never got a reply. Either they are too lazy to follow a link (I did not send 
large photos, just the web adress), or my stuff doesn't qualify for their 
contest.<<

It seems that any one-of-a-kind type synth should qualify.  You probably 
would need to send them whatever picture you want them to print.  Otherwise 
as you noticed, they probably don't bother to link over to your site and look 
around.

ivancu@... writes:

>>What ever happened to the website that showed the "making of the Sage" in 
detail?<<

I originally had my brother put them up on his site, but he needed the space 
back.  However one fan of the hoax put up his own site and the "making of the 
Sage" image is up there.  URL is:

http://hem.passagen.se/sequence/bauercoop/sage/sage.html

-Elhardt

Re: [motm]SAGE mystery solved - A new use

2000-10-06 by ivancu@aol.com

In a message dated 10/5/00 8:32:40 PM, elhardt@... writes:

<< I originally had my brother put them up on his site, but he needed the 
space 
back.  However one fan of the hoax put up his own site and the "making of the 
Sage" image is up there.  URL is:

http://hem.passagen.se/sequence/bauercoop/sage/sage.html >>

MANY THANKS!  I'm sharing this with people at work who do 3D graphics.

Ivan

RE: [motm]SAGE mystery solved - A new use

2000-10-06 by Tony Karavidas

I was reading that guy's site and he mentioned the OB8K. I have one here (I
was the hardware guy on it) and it never shipped because Gibson drove it
into the ground when they bought Oberheim/ECC.

Tony
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> -----Original Message-----
> From: elhardt@... [mailto:elhardt@...]
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 8:31 PM
> To: motm@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [motm]SAGE mystery solved - A new use
>
>
> jhaible@... writes:
>
> >>Who knows ? I offered them to take a look at my home built
> stuff once, but
> never got a reply. Either they are too lazy to follow a link (I
> did not send
> large photos, just the web adress), or my stuff doesn't qualify for their
> contest.<<
>
> It seems that any one-of-a-kind type synth should qualify.  You probably
> would need to send them whatever picture you want them to print.
> Otherwise
> as you noticed, they probably don't bother to link over to your
> site and look
> around.
>
> ivancu@... writes:
>
> >>What ever happened to the website that showed the "making of
> the Sage" in
> detail?<<
>
> I originally had my brother put them up on his site, but he
> needed the space
> back.  However one fan of the hoax put up his own site and the
> "making of the
> Sage" image is up there.  URL is:
>
> http://hem.passagen.se/sequence/bauercoop/sage/sage.html
>
> -Elhardt
>
>
>
>
>

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.